Okay, It's quite a big outlay for a camera, but for what it is after CB, it's brill.
A few places dropping prices on this, but some only offering the 1 year cover, which I think is well worth the little extra to have on such an expensive bit of kit. Stunning camera for the money after Cashback, which you can claim on the Sony Site Here Promotion runs from 24th May to 3rd September 2017
There's a promo running for 500 free 6x4 prints on certain model, which includes this model.
It's not for everyone, but worth considering if you're after something a little more high end :smiley: Gotta beat that £12 Vivitar job I bought way back when :smile:
Sony a7 Mirrorless Camera + 28-70mm LensThe Sony Alpha α7 is the world's smallest & lightest interchangeable lens full-frame camera (correct as of 16th October 2013). Features include full Frame 24.3 megapixel resolution with 14-bit RAW recording, fast Hybrid AF with phase-detection, Wi-Fi & NFC connectivity, plus the Sony α7 is compatible with Sony E-mount and full frame lenses.
Large Sensor The full-frame Exmor CMOS sensor is same size as a 35mm film frame. It’s more than twice the area of the APS-C image sensor in many DSLR cameras, and many times larger than your ordinary compact camera’s sensor. Capturing far more light, it’s the key to flawless, pro-quality pictures. You’ll really see the difference with superb detail, colour and contrast, plus dramatically reduced image noise.
24.3 effective megapixels From atmospheric portraits to dramatic landscapes and vibrant street scenes – discover a new world of detail with the full-frame α7 with 24.3 effective megapixels. The α7 takes you to even greater heights of creative expression with its full-frame 24.3 effective megapixel sensor, you’ll experience uncompromising clarity in every frame.
Fast Intelligent AF Don’t miss those once-in-a-lifetime picture opportunities. Fast Intelligent AF works in conjunction with the powerful new BIONZ X image processor to deliver blazingly quick, accurate autofocus that effortlessly tracks moving objects. The a7 adds Hybrid AF technology to freeze fast-moving athletes, wildlife or lively children with a crisply-focused burst of images at up to 5 frames per second.
Power and portability The Sony α7 has a combination of power and portability that serious photographers have been waiting for. Crafted in tough magnesium alloy, dust and moisture resistant and weighing just 407g, the α7 is the world’s smallest, lightest 35mm full-frame interchangeable-lens camera (correct as of 16th October 2013).
OLED Tru-Finder & 3-inch LCD Frame shots through the high-contrast, detail-packed XGA OLED Tru-Finder. Tilt the bright 3.0-type 921K dot LCD for a different perspective, high or low. Craft the perfect image with comfortably-placed buttons and dials – 9 customizable buttons and 45 assignable functions. Add accessories with the Multi Interface Shoe and broaden your horizons even further.
HD movies Shoot flawless Full HD video at up to 50 progressive frames per second, with full P/A/S/M exposure control. View your footage live as it’s being recorded on an external monitor screen, just like a film director would. Pro-style movies deserve sound to match: fine-tune your audio with adjustable record levels and metering.
Wireless connectivity Connect with Wi-Fi and transfer photos wirelessly to your iPad, iPhone or Android smartphone. And if you’re using an Xperia™ or NFC-compatible smartphone or tablet, just one touch is all it takes to connect with your mobile. Install PlayMemories Mobile Version 3.0 on your phone and use it as a handy remote to fire the camera’s shutter.
At a glance:
24.3-megapixel full-frame Exmor CMOS image sensor
Approximately 3-times faster (compared to BIONZ image processing engine) new-generation image processing engine BIONZ X
Enhanced Fast Hybrid AF equipped with 35% faster Fast Intelligent AF
Dramatically improved XGA OLED Tru-Finder
High reliability and intuitive operability
AVCHD Progressive 60p movie recording function
Top comments
Vanderlust
19 Jul 175#15
Price on this doesn't seem to be going down after all this time. I paid £750 a year and a half ago (after Sony rebate) for mine with the lens kit. eBayed it and bought the A7Rii a few months ago for £1600. Nearly new one, just two months old by the receipt.
These bodies really require some serious lens investment to shine. At a grand for a camera you're probably looking for some really lovely images, and I'm not sure a lot of buyers would be that happy with what they get from the 28-70mm. You can get some very nice shots, but don't expect to be wowed.
Personally I think the A7 is a good body to buy as it's holding its value, and you can use it to build up your Sony lenses if you like the system, then move up to a better body later.
Key lenses in my opinion (ignore RRPs, can get them much cheaper):
If you do a lot of portraits then look up the Batis 85mm. Seen lovely images from it on flickr.
Look to pay around 30 to 40% less than RRP for the lenses. Barely used ones pop up on eBay a lot and you can get the grey import ones too with quick delivery from Ireland.
sparklehedgehog
18 Jul 175#3
I bought the a7ii for just £1020 with 2 years warranty from LCE in Lincoln nearly 2 years ago so find it ridiculous that this is considered a deal with the a7iii being released by xmas.
NeoTrix to M_z
18 Jul 174#2
It's definitely something you have to be using a lot to get the most out of it, there are some great cameras around that would suit the occasional shoot. I have the Nikon D3300 DSLR and that was about £300 on offer at the time. I use it a fair bit and will be upgrading my kit later this year. The A7 is a beautiful camera though that has been on my radar a fair while. Might have to move into the shed though :smile:
ElGofre
19 Jul 173#17
Yes, but they're both very different in their intended usage scenarios. A Nikon D5 and a Hello Kitty Instead Camera are also both for taking photos, but I'd only recommend one of those to a sports photographer.
To be more specific, the RX10 is a bridge camera. By using a smaller sensor format and a tailor-made fixed lens, it is able to fit a 25x zoom lens into an overall package the size of a small DSLR. By contrast, the A7 uses a very large full frame sensor and interchangeable lenses, which means greater potential image quality but achieving the same degree of zoom as the RX10 is going to be impossible in terms of a single lens' zoom range. For example the "kit lens" included with this camera covers roughly the same perspective as the 1x-3x of the RX10's lens. To reach the same perspective as the RX10's furthest zoomed point, you'd need to buy an adaptor and strap on an enormous lens, which would look something like this:
Then you have to consider your needs for features like video quality, autofocus, articulating screens, low light image quality etc.
So yeah, while they are both for taking photos, they take very different approaches to it. Spend some time figuring out what exactly you want from a camera, then figure out which brands have cameras that best meets those needs.
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M_z
18 Jul 171#1
I'd like one of these; but I know I wouldn't use it much, and its just too much money to have sitting on a shelf depreciating.
NeoTrix to M_z
18 Jul 174#2
It's definitely something you have to be using a lot to get the most out of it, there are some great cameras around that would suit the occasional shoot. I have the Nikon D3300 DSLR and that was about £300 on offer at the time. I use it a fair bit and will be upgrading my kit later this year. The A7 is a beautiful camera though that has been on my radar a fair while. Might have to move into the shed though :smile:
sparklehedgehog
18 Jul 175#3
I bought the a7ii for just £1020 with 2 years warranty from LCE in Lincoln nearly 2 years ago so find it ridiculous that this is considered a deal with the a7iii being released by xmas.
labdweller to sparklehedgehog
19 Jul 17#9
They put up prices across their entire range of cameras last year.
mikeyfive
18 Jul 171#4
Two generations old now, hardly mind-blowingly good when they first released it, tbh... I wouldn't pay the thick end of a grand for one of these.
toaster
18 Jul 171#5
Got mine last week in the Amazon Prime day for just £619 inc cashback, not actually seen it yet as bought on holiday and not back yet. Main reason I got it is for the viewfinder, now that I wear glasses an LCD doesn't cut it for me anymore.
OrribleHarry
18 Jul 17#6
How does this compare to the RX10 Mk3?
Sliwka to OrribleHarry
18 Jul 17#7
Not comparable. Different camera for different purpose.
You'd be hard pushed to notice any improvement in image quality over the APS-C a6xxx cameras, especially with this kit lens. Furthermore, the autofocus on this camera is pretty average.
Don't believe the full-frame hype.
TK42 to mikeyfive
19 Jul 17#26
The kit lens is actually quite good, dynamic range and level of detail retrievable from RAW files on the A7 is amazing, way better than any of the a6000 cameras. It's not hot though, same price elsewhere.
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Opening post
A few places dropping prices on this, but some only offering the 1 year cover, which I think is well worth the little extra to have on such an expensive bit of kit. Stunning camera for the money after Cashback, which you can claim on the Sony Site Here Promotion runs from 24th May to 3rd September 2017
There's a promo running for 500 free 6x4 prints on certain model, which includes this model.
It's not for everyone, but worth considering if you're after something a little more high end :smiley: Gotta beat that £12 Vivitar job I bought way back when :smile:
Sony a7 Mirrorless Camera + 28-70mm LensThe Sony Alpha α7 is the world's smallest & lightest interchangeable lens full-frame camera (correct as of 16th October 2013). Features include full Frame 24.3 megapixel resolution with 14-bit RAW recording, fast Hybrid AF with phase-detection, Wi-Fi & NFC connectivity, plus the Sony α7 is compatible with Sony E-mount and full frame lenses.
Large Sensor
The full-frame Exmor CMOS sensor is same size as a 35mm film frame. It’s more than twice the area of the APS-C image sensor in many DSLR cameras, and many times larger than your ordinary compact camera’s sensor. Capturing far more light, it’s the key to flawless, pro-quality pictures. You’ll really see the difference with superb detail, colour and contrast, plus dramatically reduced image noise.
24.3 effective megapixels
From atmospheric portraits to dramatic landscapes and vibrant street scenes – discover a new world of detail with the full-frame α7 with 24.3 effective megapixels. The α7 takes you to even greater heights of creative expression with its full-frame 24.3 effective megapixel sensor, you’ll experience uncompromising clarity in every frame.
Fast Intelligent AF
Don’t miss those once-in-a-lifetime picture opportunities. Fast Intelligent AF works in conjunction with the powerful new BIONZ X image processor to deliver blazingly quick, accurate autofocus that effortlessly tracks moving objects. The a7 adds Hybrid AF technology to freeze fast-moving athletes, wildlife or lively children with a crisply-focused burst of images at up to 5 frames per second.
Power and portability
The Sony α7 has a combination of power and portability that serious photographers have been waiting for. Crafted in tough magnesium alloy, dust and moisture resistant and weighing just 407g, the α7 is the world’s smallest, lightest 35mm full-frame interchangeable-lens camera (correct as of 16th October 2013).
OLED Tru-Finder & 3-inch LCD
Frame shots through the high-contrast, detail-packed XGA OLED Tru-Finder. Tilt the bright 3.0-type 921K dot LCD for a different perspective, high or low. Craft the perfect image with comfortably-placed buttons and dials – 9 customizable buttons and 45 assignable functions. Add accessories with the Multi Interface Shoe and broaden your horizons even further.
HD movies
Shoot flawless Full HD video at up to 50 progressive frames per second, with full P/A/S/M exposure control. View your footage live as it’s being recorded on an external monitor screen, just like a film director would. Pro-style movies deserve sound to match: fine-tune your audio with adjustable record levels and metering.
Wireless connectivity
Connect with Wi-Fi and transfer photos wirelessly to your iPad, iPhone or Android smartphone. And if you’re using an Xperia™ or NFC-compatible smartphone or tablet, just one touch is all it takes to connect with your mobile. Install PlayMemories Mobile Version 3.0 on your phone and use it as a handy remote to fire the camera’s shutter.
At a glance:
Top comments
These bodies really require some serious lens investment to shine. At a grand for a camera you're probably looking for some really lovely images, and I'm not sure a lot of buyers would be that happy with what they get from the 28-70mm. You can get some very nice shots, but don't expect to be wowed.
Personally I think the A7 is a good body to buy as it's holding its value, and you can use it to build up your Sony lenses if you like the system, then move up to a better body later.
Key lenses in my opinion (ignore RRPs, can get them much cheaper):
55mm (best lens I've ever used, ridiculously stunning shots)
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/camera-lenses/sel55f18z
16-35mm (haven't put it through its paces much, but pleased with it so far)
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/camera-lenses/sel1635z
78-200mm (most wanted lens, still need to put the cash together for one)
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/camera-lenses/sel70200g
or if you're feeling spendy then get the 2.8 G Master.
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/camera-lenses/sel70200gm
If you do a lot of portraits then look up the Batis 85mm. Seen lovely images from it on flickr.
Look to pay around 30 to 40% less than RRP for the lenses. Barely used ones pop up on eBay a lot and you can get the grey import ones too with quick delivery from Ireland.
To be more specific, the RX10 is a bridge camera. By using a smaller sensor format and a tailor-made fixed lens, it is able to fit a 25x zoom lens into an overall package the size of a small DSLR. By contrast, the A7 uses a very large full frame sensor and interchangeable lenses, which means greater potential image quality but achieving the same degree of zoom as the RX10 is going to be impossible in terms of a single lens' zoom range. For example the "kit lens" included with this camera covers roughly the same perspective as the 1x-3x of the RX10's lens. To reach the same perspective as the RX10's furthest zoomed point, you'd need to buy an adaptor and strap on an enormous lens, which would look something like this:
http://camerasize.com/compact/#487.520,672,ha,t
Then you have to consider your needs for features like video quality, autofocus, articulating screens, low light image quality etc.
So yeah, while they are both for taking photos, they take very different approaches to it. Spend some time figuring out what exactly you want from a camera, then figure out which brands have cameras that best meets those needs.
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http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/Sony/Sony-E-Mount-Cameras/Sony-Alpha-A7-with-28-70mm-lens
Don't believe the full-frame hype.
£882 (with Quidco) from Wex (with 2 years Sony Warranty).
http://www.wexphotographic.com/sony-alpha-a7-digital-camera-with-28-70mm-lens-1544411/?