loads of people just want a compact stock android 7 phone with a compass gyroscope!
dessala
19 Jul 174#35
Just came back from Carphone Warehouse. This phone lags like hell. Opening browser takes a couple of seconds. Operating system seems to use up all resources. I strongly recommend you go to CW and a have a look before buying Nokia 3.
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N0bodyOfTheGoat
28 Jul 17#76
Has anyone bought one of these and can comment on how accurate the GPS and accelerometer are for fitness tracking in the likes of Google Fit and Strava?
misterleoni
28 Jul 17#75
Why would you pity me? It's only personal preference - I'm used to it.
Tarquin8484
28 Jul 17#74
I pity you. Only a little bit though. :innocent:
iainmann
26 Jul 17#73
It is a shame. I was hoping for more from Nokia. OK it's a cheap phone but others at the same price work better. Perhaps a software update will improve it.
zlain
25 Jul 17#72
Its a shame. I was really hoping to get the Nokia but judging by the comments I won't.
chancooluk
25 Jul 171#71
It's definitely the processor, but also poorly optimised software. Checkout this speed comparison vs the Moto C Plus, which carries the same SOC and 2GB RAM. The Moto C is significantly better at multitasking, despite the same hardware. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffjJhkVRQ6w
iainmann
25 Jul 17#69
I've used this phone for a few days now and it does lag. Annoyingly so. 2GB RAM really isn't enough now.
zlain to iainmann
25 Jul 17#70
2GB RAM should be fine, maybe its the processor as someone above was mentioned.
poisondwarf
24 Jul 171#68
inside what?
lmulli
24 Jul 171#67
You can get a decent SD820/821 based phone for that sort of money.
zirk
24 Jul 17#66
Its a £200 phone, as said in my post if your a Nokia Fan and require Top Notch Flagship specs wait for the Nokia 8 or 9. :wink:
stuartc74
24 Jul 17#64
Does these new fangled phones send texts?
zirk to stuartc74
24 Jul 171#65
Only in the UK, rest of the World they send SMS. :wink:
lmulli
24 Jul 17#63
Both the Nokia 5 and 6 sport a low end Snapdragon 430 processor which is absolutely dire. You may as well stick with the 3310!!
zirk
24 Jul 17#62
This is a Budget Nokia from their new range of phones, if you want better specs go for the Nokia 5 or 6 (They do a nice 64Gb version of the Nokia 6) or wait a few months for the launch of the Flagship Nokia 8 or 9 but expect to pay a premium.
These phones are Dual Sim outside of UK Voda/CPW, available to buy outside the UK in Europe and Asia (Dont buy from China as you wont be able to install Google Play Store, Hong Kong ones should be ok).
Welcome Back Nokia.
sikiliza69
19 Jul 174#14
5" is compact nowadays?...at 720p my preference would opt for a 4" Iphone SE albeit the lack of storage expansion.
My lumia 925 was the perfect size before Microsoft took over the the production from NOKIA. Apple get a lot of stick for their non-conformity but damn it! ...you have to give them top marks for their designs.
I would love to see more from android or windows(highly unlikely) within the 4"-4.5" range. Makes me chuckle when i see people with skinny jeans with no room for the 5"+ phones in the pockets :smile:
dark_nugget to sikiliza69
24 Jul 17#61
My Iphone 5 would disagree with you as it suffers heavily from updated apps taking up storage/ram.
obwan2014
24 Jul 171#58
Hey all, why is a fingerprint scanner so important to some folk, is this required for NFC payment?
preecey to obwan2014
24 Jul 17#60
Fingerprint scanners are a lot quicker to unlock the phone.
It isn't essential to have one to use Android Pay. As long as there is an NFC chip inside, and you have a screen lock set up, such as a pattern or PIN, it'll work fine.
little_green
24 Jul 17#59
Personally I'm waiting for the flagship
misterleoni
24 Jul 17#57
I wouldn't buy a phone without one now either.
markianedwards
19 Jul 17#15
No fingerprint sensor. That’s important to me these days.
Tarquin8484 to markianedwards
23 Jul 17#56
We've come a long way as a species.
markwalton400
19 Jul 17#32
Moto G5 every time
urinthematrix to markwalton400
23 Jul 17#55
How long does battery last for you?
Thanks
jakeby
23 Jul 17#53
CPW price is £129. I find it impossible to get their reduced PAYG prices. Either my SIM doesn't qualify or they haven't got any of the correct PAYG SIMs in stock. Vodafone are even worse. You order online and the phone doesn't turn up, or you click and collect go to the shop and are told computer says no because of a glitch the order wasn't finalised and it's more than their jobs worth to give you the phone. Then you spend hours on to support trying to resolve it. I ended up getting credit card company to refund me when Vodafone wouldn't.
chancooluk to jakeby
23 Jul 171#54
Its £99.99 plus £10 top up at CPW (£109.99). This isn't a PAYG upgrade price, so no SIM is required to purchase.
Not all android 7 handset will work with EE volte /vowifi . Handset like Sony need EE Branded Firmware to get VoLTE and VoWifi. Unbranded Sony handset (for example) won't be able to access Vowifi nor VoLTE. Some handsets like Newer Samsung Galaxy S8. Unbranded only able to access Vowifi but not VoLTE .
misterleoni
22 Jul 17#48
I'm more amazed that someone out there is still using BBM to be honest!
I wasn't doubting that the Nokia has those features by the way - they're quite common on devices with Android 7. I meant are you sure the Moto doesn't have those features, since it also has Android 7, and neither VOLTE nor Wifi Calling need any particular hardware (other than 4G and wifi, obviously!). My understanding is that both of these features are inherent within Nougat and don't need to be added in carrier firmware or by the individual manufacturer - as was the case early on.
lingshum
22 Jul 171#47
Proof of EE Wifi Calling and VoLTE, Please see image below
lingshum
20 Jul 17#45
At least the Nokia 3 support EE VoLTE and VoWifi (Wi-Fi Calling) out of the box where the Moto G5 have no VoLTE nor VoWifi on EE Network.
misterleoni to lingshum
21 Jul 17#46
Are you sure about that? It's the sort of thing that doesn't get mentioned by the manufacturer and I'm sure my Moto came up with a VOLTE logo on EE for the brief time I had it. Could be imagining it though!
Timbo_UK
19 Jul 17#43
Like I posted earlier I bought one for my son on this deal. Side by side comparison with my own nexus 6P really surprised me; yes everything IS slower, but it's a 5th of the price.
For £109 unlocked this is great, the Moto G5 just looks and feels cheap in comparison. Testing out the 3 has already got me tempted by the 8!
misterleoni to Timbo_UK
20 Jul 17#44
Some of the Chinese imports for £60-£70 on here are equally impressive as this from what I can tell. Nice feeling housings don't tell the whole story, though this has the advantage of being on the high street. I don't think *no one* should buy this or anything as I'm sure it suits your son but I equally don't think this is a particularly special piece of hardware for the money, given the obvious skimping they have done in terms of the fingerprint scanner and CPU.
misterleoni
19 Jul 172#42
It has a CPU that's a piece of poop so that doesn't surprise me. No amount of regular updates will fix that.
As a previous poster said (and it pains me to say this as I used to be a Nokia fanboy), the Nokia of old were highly flawed in terms of their hardware and their software was hardly up to much. With hindsight the best thing I can say about Nokia was that they broke ground when it came to camera hardware and they took risks when it came to designs.
Aside from that the benefit of hindsight gives a rather shoddy story about the rest of company. I recall appalling small C: drives, abysmally low RAM that gave memory errors all the time, sliding mechanisms that came loose, unfinished software that often meant that a new device would be nothing but a headache for months. They even released a phone in the N96 that was *less* powerful than the N95.
Look at their ridiculous naming conventions for software (who knew what the Ovi Store was?) and the half-baked implementation of them, look at the way settings and system features were buried within seemingly random subfolders. Look at the way Symbian seemed designed to frustrate rather than simplify. Does anyone else remember how you used to have to give permission EVERY TIME you connected to the internet on Nokia phones, even up to the N97?
We can dream all we like about a return to days of yore but in all honesty, even if they had the same team they had back in 2006, I still wouldn't see Nokia as a hero brand set to change the world. As stated above, they died because they weren't good enough. Their team was flawed.
Hopefully HMD Global will go right where the old Nokia went wrong but - honestly - this typical Gearbest garbage is not going to wet anyone's whistle, surely.
shug119
19 Jul 17#41
Looks good for the money.
dessala
19 Jul 174#35
Just came back from Carphone Warehouse. This phone lags like hell. Opening browser takes a couple of seconds. Operating system seems to use up all resources. I strongly recommend you go to CW and a have a look before buying Nokia 3.
Scotty.Boy to dessala
19 Jul 171#40
B*gger!!! I really didn't want to hear that, as I was considering a cheap Nokia Android Handset as a spare!!! :-( Back to the drinking board at the pub...right now I've gone past the cheap ales and ciders & progressing onto shots!!! he he he he
nigelbutler
19 Jul 17#39
Not my review
konicky
19 Jul 171#38
Haven't Nokia promised regular and quick updates to the OS which would put them a long way ahead of the now Lenovo owned Motorola.
robertoegg
19 Jul 17#37
one of the factors in my purchasing of a redmi 4 pro. I can easily get into day 3 unless I'm using videos... love it!
Stevie.Badman
19 Jul 171#36
I'm waiting for the 6
Masteryates
19 Jul 17#34
I think we all need to remember that the Nokia of old did have some talented people. On the other hand, they also had some rubbish people and that's why they ended up getting bought by Micro$oft. In the old days of Nokia, there hardware was always good but underpowered. The software usually had lots of bugs on release and they had the annoying habit of taking away features only to add them as new features later, (Google now love to do this.) The only thing that really set them apart was the camera quality.
Lloytron
19 Jul 17#33
Sure, of course a lot of them went their seperate ways but it is a lot more than the HR departments and the Photocopying division :smile:. They have got a lot of experienced talent behind them, that's my point. Have they got all the talent? No. They haven't got all the chaff either, of which there was a whole load!
elbs
19 Jul 17#31
decent enough price i suppose, but no fingerprint scanner or 1080p display is a dealbreaker for me in a 2017 phone above £100
if you can live without those, a reasonably decent deal
lauraken
19 Jul 171#30
thank for linksbud/
misterleoni
19 Jul 174#29
'For the most part'? Maybe some people from HR and they guy from the photocopying division. In all seriousness though a lot of the major talent went elsewhere - I mean, do we think they just sat around working in a call centre until HMD bought the name back?
Whilst it's not true that this HMD Nokia has no legacy from the Nokia of old - it's certainly no Polaroid - it is a far cry from the Nokia of yore. I think the fairest thing to say is that there are some people who worked for Nokia who are part of the HMD group and are desperate to get the name back into the public consciousness. Finnish people are very proud of Nokia and don't want to see it go the way of the dodo - the recent rehash of the 3310 is evidence of this need to rekindle the name 'Nokia'.
Some people think they're going to start making top of the line 41mp Pureview cameras and carrying on where they left off though and I don't think this is likely - they now have far less camera and even general hardware expertise than most manufacturers out there as they have lost most of the big guns - Ari Partinen, their lead camera engineer for example left for Apple three years ago. They still have Juha Alakarhu but he's on the Ozo 360 camera team at Nokia. I think the idea that they're going to come out of the ashes with a stonking camera is far fetched.
What I've seen so far from this Nokia is some very nice looking handsets. I've seen nothing else to make me convinced that they're anything more special than a regular old Chinese import from Gearbest though - which also often look very nice.
As it stands we could have a company with some passionate Finnish employees who want to make something great, but we could also have a company ultimately led by the desire to exploit the name and past heritage which ends up doing little else.
Have to say that I hope all the more positive predictions come true and that I'm entirely wrong though - I used to love Nokia phones back in the day and I would love to see them back in the game. Don't think this is a great start though - MTK chip and no fingerprint scanner...yuk
Lloytron
19 Jul 171#28
They are made by HMD who licensed the name, yes. They also bought the phone division from Microsoft.
HMD is run for the most part by ex Nokia veteran staff. The Phone Division bought from Microsoft is also Nokia staff.
They have the name, the experience, the processes and principles.
The Nokia name is all it is now, a name. Do some research.
simate
19 Jul 17#25
And reviews are poor for the 'Nokia'.
Masteryates
19 Jul 17#24
I don't get this. If you read some of the reviews and watch some youtube video reviews, this phone lags like hell even brand new out of the box. Why would anyone buy one? Have they done a firmware update to make them fast?
Sensors & Locations
Accelerometer Yes
Assisted GPS Yes
Digital Compass Yes
Fingerprint No
Gyroscope Yes
Proximity Yes
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NFC yes
GPS yes
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The Magnetic sensor will show minute details like change in your orientation as well. You can change your direction and you will be able to see that on your smartphone screen. This is particularly help full when you are using navigation on foot. In the Absence of magnetic senor you can see your position on the Map but, not your orientation. the Map doesn’t rotate when you do. Magnetic sensor helps you to take that first step in the correct direction with the help of the direction pointer.
nigelbutler
19 Jul 171#21
Btw this is an Unlocked phone from CPW
SIM free ie Unlocked.... The £10 SIM can be any network and you can just chuck it away it you want and pop your current SIM in straight away.... Btw it takes Nano SIM the smallest of the SIM sizes
teerex
19 Jul 17#19
Poor phone IMHO
nigelbutler to teerex
19 Jul 171#20
Have you held one and had a proper test?
It feels very premium. I only had a quick go in the shop but appears very snappy
wennbley
19 Jul 17#18
I want to get a cheap'ish phone for my boy, and he will use it to play games on. This or the Moto G5 from O2?
cullies
18 Jul 172#1
No match for the MOTO G5 for only £10 more from o2
I would pick nokia any day over any other android phone. Im a simple man and dont care about all the specs these days. Nokia name is just the godfather of them all :man:
zizzles to cullies
19 Jul 172#17
So get one, nobody minds
castle
18 Jul 17#12
interesting choice for tight budget. Thanks
kvn618
18 Jul 1712#11
But HUK don't get same level of commission from CW as they do from Vodafone
chancooluk
18 Jul 171#10
The link goes to Vodafone, but the deal is meant to be for carphone warehouse, which is the same price and unlocked.
JoeSpur
18 Jul 171#9
Nokia, minus all the people that made them good, hmm... :man:
Not bad, but if it's locked to Vodafone then it sucks :stuck_out_tongue:
Timbo_UK
18 Jul 17#8
The Nokia 3 feels and looks far more expensive than it is
Timbo_UK
18 Jul 17#7
Bought one for son. Perfect Pokémon Go phone!
kiddy
18 Jul 172#6
Link goes to vodafone site
Ka11ran
18 Jul 172#5
Main question is: can this device last 1-2 months from full charge? Ah then days when I can charge my phone once, and it'll go a lifetime. Even after playing Snake! :sunglasses: now I have to charge my device daily :man:
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loads of people just want a compact stock android 7 phone with a compass gyroscope!
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These phones are Dual Sim outside of UK Voda/CPW, available to buy outside the UK in Europe and Asia (Dont buy from China as you wont be able to install Google Play Store, Hong Kong ones should be ok).
Welcome Back Nokia.
My lumia 925 was the perfect size before Microsoft took over the the production from NOKIA. Apple get a lot of stick for their non-conformity but damn it! ...you have to give them top marks for their designs.
I would love to see more from android or windows(highly unlikely) within the 4"-4.5" range. Makes me chuckle when i see people with skinny jeans with no room for the 5"+ phones in the pockets :smile:
It isn't essential to have one to use Android Pay. As long as there is an NFC chip inside, and you have a screen lock set up, such as a pattern or PIN, it'll work fine.
Thanks
https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/nokia/3.html# !colour=white&capacity=16GB&dealType=pg
https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archive/4G-Calling-on-the-EE-Network/td-p/423732
Not all android 7 handset will work with EE volte /vowifi . Handset like Sony need EE Branded Firmware to get VoLTE and VoWifi. Unbranded Sony handset (for example) won't be able to access Vowifi nor VoLTE. Some handsets like Newer Samsung Galaxy S8. Unbranded only able to access Vowifi but not VoLTE .
I wasn't doubting that the Nokia has those features by the way - they're quite common on devices with Android 7. I meant are you sure the Moto doesn't have those features, since it also has Android 7, and neither VOLTE nor Wifi Calling need any particular hardware (other than 4G and wifi, obviously!). My understanding is that both of these features are inherent within Nougat and don't need to be added in carrier firmware or by the individual manufacturer - as was the case early on.
For £109 unlocked this is great, the Moto G5 just looks and feels cheap in comparison. Testing out the 3 has already got me tempted by the 8!
As a previous poster said (and it pains me to say this as I used to be a Nokia fanboy), the Nokia of old were highly flawed in terms of their hardware and their software was hardly up to much. With hindsight the best thing I can say about Nokia was that they broke ground when it came to camera hardware and they took risks when it came to designs.
Aside from that the benefit of hindsight gives a rather shoddy story about the rest of company. I recall appalling small C: drives, abysmally low RAM that gave memory errors all the time, sliding mechanisms that came loose, unfinished software that often meant that a new device would be nothing but a headache for months. They even released a phone in the N96 that was *less* powerful than the N95.
Look at their ridiculous naming conventions for software (who knew what the Ovi Store was?) and the half-baked implementation of them, look at the way settings and system features were buried within seemingly random subfolders. Look at the way Symbian seemed designed to frustrate rather than simplify. Does anyone else remember how you used to have to give permission EVERY TIME you connected to the internet on Nokia phones, even up to the N97?
We can dream all we like about a return to days of yore but in all honesty, even if they had the same team they had back in 2006, I still wouldn't see Nokia as a hero brand set to change the world. As stated above, they died because they weren't good enough. Their team was flawed.
Hopefully HMD Global will go right where the old Nokia went wrong but - honestly - this typical Gearbest garbage is not going to wet anyone's whistle, surely.
if you can live without those, a reasonably decent deal
Whilst it's not true that this HMD Nokia has no legacy from the Nokia of old - it's certainly no Polaroid - it is a far cry from the Nokia of yore. I think the fairest thing to say is that there are some people who worked for Nokia who are part of the HMD group and are desperate to get the name back into the public consciousness. Finnish people are very proud of Nokia and don't want to see it go the way of the dodo - the recent rehash of the 3310 is evidence of this need to rekindle the name 'Nokia'.
Some people think they're going to start making top of the line 41mp Pureview cameras and carrying on where they left off though and I don't think this is likely - they now have far less camera and even general hardware expertise than most manufacturers out there as they have lost most of the big guns - Ari Partinen, their lead camera engineer for example left for Apple three years ago. They still have Juha Alakarhu but he's on the Ozo 360 camera team at Nokia. I think the idea that they're going to come out of the ashes with a stonking camera is far fetched.
What I've seen so far from this Nokia is some very nice looking handsets. I've seen nothing else to make me convinced that they're anything more special than a regular old Chinese import from Gearbest though - which also often look very nice.
As it stands we could have a company with some passionate Finnish employees who want to make something great, but we could also have a company ultimately led by the desire to exploit the name and past heritage which ends up doing little else.
Have to say that I hope all the more positive predictions come true and that I'm entirely wrong though - I used to love Nokia phones back in the day and I would love to see them back in the game. Don't think this is a great start though - MTK chip and no fingerprint scanner...yuk
HMD is run for the most part by ex Nokia veteran staff. The Phone Division bought from Microsoft is also Nokia staff.
They have the name, the experience, the processes and principles.
So no, it's not just the name.
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/pay-as-you-go/nokia-3-payg/sku96274?dfacid=1&cid=aff-aw-default-47868&callwinid=47868&awc=1257_1500423149_e0717c4a9b2818bd03fc76dc0ae0ac60
Accelerometer Yes
Assisted GPS Yes
Digital Compass Yes
Fingerprint No
Gyroscope Yes
Proximity Yes
-------------
NFC yes
GPS yes
----------------
The Magnetic sensor will show minute details like change in your orientation as well. You can change your direction and you will be able to see that on your smartphone screen. This is particularly help full when you are using navigation on foot. In the Absence of magnetic senor you can see your position on the Map but, not your orientation. the Map doesn’t rotate when you do. Magnetic sensor helps you to take that first step in the correct direction with the help of the direction pointer.
SIM free ie Unlocked.... The £10 SIM can be any network and you can just chuck it away it you want and pop your current SIM in straight away.... Btw it takes Nano SIM the smallest of the SIM sizes
It feels very premium. I only had a quick go in the shop but appears very snappy
https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/nokia-3/review/
Not bad, but if it's locked to Vodafone then it sucks :stuck_out_tongue:
loads of people just want a compact stock android 7 phone with a compass gyroscope!
and it looks much nicer than the Moto G5... it feels great and is really responsive
and its a nice compact size!