Nonsense a 1050ti is faster than a PS4 Pro. A 1050 is only slightly behind.

In short you will have no problem running the latest games at medium or even high settings at 1080p.

You only really need the extra horsepower if you're running at 1440p and above.

Maybe you should update your driver's mate, something seriously wrong if your having issues.

lmao, the irony of you saying research, research,research and you can't even read that it isn't a u processor. :smile:

I think you will find that HQ processors are Quad Core, it even says Quad Core on the John Lewis website! The i5 7300HQ is only 3% slower than an i7 7700HQ, so there is nothing wrong with the i5 processor.

Jesus

These threads really bring out the nutters

Looks great for the price. Shame it's not just £25-£50 more but with a 1050ti

i5 7th generation and NVIDA1050, Full HD, reviews seem decent online... for the price is good, bear in mind you can replace with an SSD and up the RAM later on.

Is this good for 4k video editing?

Also available bundled with a HP Deskjet wireless printer for £619.94

Blinding price!

Would this be able to run GTA 5?

Perfect for Kodi on the move.

That's a pretty good spec laptop and a good card in there.

This would run anything you throw at it.

I think you will find that HQ processors are Quad Core, it even says Quad Core on the John Lewis website! The i5 7300HQ is only 3% slower than an i7 7700HQ, so there is nothing wrong with the i5 processor.

Very good price for a half decent gaming laptop with a 1050! Hot.

Well I went for one plus you get two years warranty I will up the ram to 16 and put a SSD in at some point.

How easy are these to add an SSD in (as opposed to replacing the HD with an SSD)? Anyone have experience with doing this with an HP OMEN?

Other sites are saying 128gb SSD as well as the 1tb hardrive?

I googled this 1DK84EA#ABU

I have a Dell mobile workstation powered by a i5-6440HQ.

I can see four cores in Device manager. Some i7s only have two cores.

This, with the free two year warranty is an absolute steal.

You can add another two years plus accidental damage, taking the warranty and accidental damage to four years for £65. That looks a pretty good deal to me.

Looking at some of the other models, you may well be able to add an M2 ssd to this. 8GB RAM is fine for most people.

My only real question is about the size of the battery. Quad core processors and dedicated graphics can eat power.

Would this run Player Unknown Battlegrounds at decent settings?

Says 11hrs battery not sure that's for gaming.

I think you can add a additional SSD without touching the 1tb.

Other websites with same model also showing just the 1TB drive.

The extra 2 year warranty is pointless though if you modify the laptop as it wont be covered which is a real shame.

If you've added RAM or an m2 SSD, just remove it. They are the only changes one is likely to make.

275GB MX300 m.2 is £89.99 on Amazon.

Didn't see it was a HQ.

In that case goferrit.

Get an SSD, it's the best upgrade anyone can do. It'll be the sluggish hard drive making it feel slow.

"Gaming Laptop" oxymoron

Im thinking they will have a warranty sticker over it so you cant open it and when they come to fix it, and there is no OS on it (as its on the removed SSD!) they may question it :smile:

I have I've upgraded to the Samsung 960 NVMe and replaced the HDD with ssd everyday computing is good games are terrible

I 'see' what you did there :wink:

Excellent specs and build for this price. People who are not getting enough performance out of this, check if something is wrong in drivers etc as mine runs absolutely great in games :-)

Got the 202na version from Microsoft store for 666. That has a 128gb ssd. I am confused now. Should I return that for this and get 2 yrs warranty or keep the SSD.

Will it take 32gb memory.

How good would this be for my son who is 12 as an introduction to gaming on a computer. He's desperate for a gaming laptop. Thanks

What kind of games were you trying to run that made you think the performance was poor on this laptop?

Fantastic notebook for gaming although you will want to upgrade the memory and its ddr4. U might just be able to cope with 3 usb slots and is very loud for internal speakers

sorry to add my shty opinion to all the positives but I consider it expensive for what you get

GTA 4 or 5 pretty rubbish even on low settings then all of your major new games same. This is not a gaming laptop my opinion anyway and the price reflects that

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05357609

Anyone care for the manual.

Nonsense a 1050ti is faster than a PS4 Pro. A 1050 is only slightly behind.

In short you will have no problem running the latest games at medium or even high settings at 1080p.

You only really need the extra horsepower if you're running at 1440p and above.

Maybe you should update your driver's mate, something seriously wrong if your having issues.

You don't need to spend £599 for Kodi on the move...

This is a reduced to clear system and a John Lewis specific model also.

It doesn't feature SSD which is a knock out blow for anything claiming to be a gaming laptop. It also features only 2GB of graphics memory as opposed to 4GB which the 1050 can handle.

This sounds like a good deal but the benchmarks for recent games show that it struggles with the newer demands.

If this were £50 less it might be a good deal but at this price it's better to spend more on a SSD version and preferably a 1050Ti.

Possibly a decent laptop though for a teenager.

Most the models only have 2gb you memory even though it can handle 4gb find me another gaming laptop with same specs cheaper then I would agree with your comments.

Had this been a 1050Ti I'd probably have caved...thank god it wasn't, because I don't need this!

If it was 1050ti I'd be all over this

GTA is smooth as butter on my 750ti at full HD on low settings, must be something wrong with your drivers or something. Or cpu cooler not fixed properly so its constantly throttling. You should be getting 60fps with bells and whistles.

Sorry to highjack the thread but I just managed to get the following from the dell outlet, but having seen this up deal I'm having second thoughts, anyone care to offer an opinion on which is the better deal?

Whoever said that the graphics card is rubbish and can't play GTA 5 my laptop with intel hd graphics 520 runs it on low settings so this should be flawless

The 1050 in this Omen will outperform the 960M in your Dell by a small margin. It's not going to be a revolutionary change, but in a lot of games it can be enough of a performance bump to get into playable framerates at the next higher graphics preset or resolution.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-960M.138006.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Notebook.178614.0.html

If it had an SSD.
If it had a 1050 Ti.
If it wasn't a fingerprint magnet.
If I needed it... :stuck_out_tongue:

If if if ...it would be £300 more

While I disagree that lacking an SSD is a "knock-out" for a gaming laptop, according to the manual it has an m.2 slot available for adding your own.

Thanks for the advice - the only other thing is the i7 6700hq in the dell Vs the hp's i5 7300hq, but from what I understand the difference is negligible there as well - any thoughts

i5 "gaming" wot??!

That is a good deal. Personally, I would like to see a touch screen, but I guess that is rare in a gaming laptop.

This is the sort of performance you will get

https://youtu.be/0i2LSCLyWdU

The i7 is technically the better processor thanks to hyperthreading, but it's not really going to come into play here- basic tasks will not stress either processor, and when it comes to intensive gaming the GPU in either laptop is going to be a bottleneck long before the i5's lack of threads does. I'd sooner take the 1050.

Great price but be aware of the shortcomings of this laptop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpSMlS7_zAE

Of all the things that the EU has not mandated, it should be compulsory SSD drives for the O/S in all computers. A laptop without an SSD drive in this day and age should be a crime against humanity.

It's not to hard to fix that put a m.2 in clone the drive to it wipe the 1tb and good to go.Besides a lot of people are missing the point here.Its the price that makes this gaming laptop stand out a lot of horsepower for the price and it can be upgraded.

4 hours battery life basic tasks and 6 just watching video... I imagine
this could be improved using SSD only. Still, that battery life is
nowhere near 11 hours.

Did you test that yourself?

I'd read reviews before considering this laptop. It runs very hot with really loud fans. Not trolling but just bear in mind before splashing out 600 pounds

Personally this would be my setup m.2 drive with O's and 512gb ssd drive to replace the 1tb plus replace the ram to 16gb then watch this laptop fly.

Would the run pubg?

No, I watched the video review provided Picard123 posted.

To be honest most people leave charger plugged in with gaming laptops anyway running out of juice would not be a problem.

Until you've sat in a data center for an hour with 200 HP Proliant servers blasting away at over 80dB, no laptop can be classed as hot and noisy :wink:

Nice price. Tempted.

you get a further 5% off with JL if you have access to Perkbox.

agree but "a crime against humanity" is just a tiny bit overboard :confused:

yes

This laptop would run anything.

then why have a gaming laptop? you get much more bang for your buck with a desktop !

Very tempted by this one, the graphics card is oldish but there's such a massive back catalogue of great older games out there that for a casual gamer, this could be a good choice.

I want I want I want but bank balance says no :disappointed:

The reviewer says the screen is one of the worst he has used... do owners of the laptop agree? I'm dithering on trigger pulling.

it's better than the equivalent Dell option and to be honest it's perfectly acceptable. it's a lot of laptop for your money and you should go for it.

Because when you have finished you can fold it away? Space is a premium for a lot of people.

Any discount codes about to use?

i find 7" tablets are easier to hold one handed than a laptop :wink:

sometimes 7 inches just doesn't get the job done though.

Tempted. Need a new laptop for the missus birthday which of course I've left it till the last minute :confused:. Ticks all the boxes except for the lack of a SSD and the graphics card is a bit much as she only really plays Sims 4 which doesn't take much to run.

Will putting an SSD into the laptop void the warranty?

Not if you use a m.2

Do you think to replace the hdd will void the warranty?

Go over to Scan and spend a little bit more money for something much better as this is an investment to last a couple of years, no point skimping a little.

This is in the terms for the 'added care' which is the additional 2 years warranty you can buy.....

Exclusions to cover:

Where the product has been modified or repaired by someone not authorised by us If the product has been modified in any way from the specification originally sold to you, or where it has been repaired by someone other than a service technician approved by us.

Could you link an example?

I would leave the original drive in put a m.2 in and upgrade the ram then if you need to make a warranty claim remove the m.2 disk and put your old ram back in.When your warranty is finish just do what you want everything will be cheaper by then ram and m.2 drives.

- how much would replacing with say base 125 SSD and ram cost on top of this price?

About £189
£100 for 16gb ram
£89 m.2 drive
Could be cheaper

The "extra" warranty doesnt give you cover for 4 years, it just gives you accidental damage cover for the 2 years where you already have cover for manufacturing faults.

I don't think the graphics card is to oldish it can hold its own.

Didn't realise Nvidia had released the 11xx series.

Well... Just to let you guys know I got the laptop and just some minutes after I published it here. I've been testing it, I'm a casual gamer. I got the Dell 7567 with 16gb of ram, 256gb ssd +1 tb hdd, i7 and 1050ti and games run so smooth, but as I said before I'm a casual player. I use Linux more often than Windows to code. So today I got the HP omen still having the dell 7567... 2 new laptops on my table.
Yesterday I decided to return the Dell because it has awful problems with the drivers or something, it has a lot of stutters in normal use (not gaming) and is super laggy when you use an external monitor, which I don't do very often but I'm not expecting any problem if I spend £1000 in a computer.

I'm a developer and I don't play oftenly but if I want to play I want to play I like my laptop to be prepared to support the game I want to play.

The whole day I've been testing the HP omen and it seems to meet my requirements: League of legends runs pretty smooth and Factorio must run smooth as well. So I think for me the i5 and the gtx 1050 should be ok. It's true, it gets a bit hot where the tight hand rest but I'd say it's nothing to be dying about. Now, I know I need to upgrade to an ssd because the OS runs super slow with an HDD and also to upgrade to 16gb of RAM would be super nice. The urgency, I would say is to upgrade to an SSD.

For the price, I would say it's worthy. In internet and mostly youtube people say that the best gaming laptop for the price is the Dell 7567, but it has those awful problems which I'm sure Dell will sort out in a future. So it's seems that I'm keeping the HP omen.

Cheers guys, if you want me to test something, just let me know.

Hi I got it and for me the screen is very good quality. I'm not a pro with screens, but for me it's really good

Nvidia used to provide CUDA for encoding certain streams. It was lightning fast due to hardware acceleration. See if your tools support it.

What about Pac Man ? :smirk:

You have to keep in mind the price of this laptop when he was reviewing it was a lot more expensive so there is more expectation on it from his point of view. For £599 it is a bargain for such a powerful machine

That's true. And also I have to add that the fan is super quiet.

Continuing with my comparison with the Dell 7567, which does not turn on very often the fans but it gets warm underneath. This one has the fans always working but it's really really quiet.

Appreciate the info for gaming compared to your Dell is the omen slow or same or much slower.

Just for reference if anyone wants to buy the HP X9000 Omen Mouse cheapest price I could find it was cex £28.50 plus £2.50 p+p

This video shows just how easy a upgrade is

https://youtu.be/Qwv92Cr6ib0

TN Panel??

Apparently the screen is comparatively dim and with comparatively poor colour accuracy, according to Laptop Mag: "The Omen's 15.6-inch display can reproduce only 71 percent of the sRGB color gamut, which is below the 95 percent mainstream average." and "From my viewing experience, I wasn't too surprised to discover that the Omen 15t's screen notched a below-average result on the brightness test. At 247 nits, it matched the VX 15 but was nowhere near the 278-nit average." They did at least say that the screen is sharp, though, and at the price for the spec, I wouldn't necessarily expect a stellar screen, plus when you're not on the road, you can plug it into your desktop screen.

They also had battery life as poor but... considering that the CPU isn't an anaemic U-series model and that it has a hard drive rather than an SSD, I don't think that's so surprising; I would infinitely prefer a Q-series CPU for productivity work, anyway. They also weren't very impressed with the keyboard, though I'm not sure how important a great keyboard experience is to a gamer. Of greater interest to me were the Pros: "The Pros - Sleek, attractive design; Decent gaming and overall performance; Affordable". I think for the price, it looks great. Hot!

You sure u don't just wan't this for youself?

Your paying mainly for the graphics card. Just about any modern laptop will play sims. Get her a decent ultra book!

Anything with Q (or X for the Xtreme range) in the current processor line up is a quad-core.

I can't see anyone bothering about the battery, it'll be ok when not gaming as the CPU is frugal but buying a 'gaming class' laptop and worrying about the battery is a waste of time - you can't have it all

I thought this was good value at £699, now its a real bargain. Nice find OP!

Not for me, as it's too big (compared to some equivalent spec rivals), made by HP (who have a relatively poor reliability record), and has a relatively poor screen (according to reviews).

Having said that, this is also a lot cheaper than equivalent spec rivals, so is pretty amazing value for money. Voted hot :smile:

Anybody have link to better alternatives for around this price range?

I know it's a gaming PC but will in run things like photoshop and office smoothly.

Nice trolling attempt.

How would this compare to Xbox one S on a 1080p TV?

Yes, though I would be wary of the screen's colour accuracy for Photoshop work.
As others have previously advised you should really budget for a 250gb+ M.2 SSD in the near future.

Am now thinking this might be worth opening my wallet for...

Regarding the screen, yes it might be relatively dim but my current ASUS laptop has a 331 nit screen and on full, it's so bright that it hurts your eyes! Also, I never use my laptop outside so the 'dim' Omen screen should do me just fine.

It's not the exact same spec, but there's a good review of the Omen 15 here...

https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Omen-15t-2017-7700HQ-GTX-1050-Ti-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.232090.0.html

Yes, probably not at highest setting but yes.

i7 7700hq has 4c/8t and higher base, where i5 7300hq only has 4c/4t and lower base clocks, performance wise the gap between them two would be around 20% overall, mainly due to hyperthreading.
Its still a capable processor for light photo/video editing, casual gaming and all your daily tasks, but once you start using multitasking and taking your editing to higher levels and playing games that are cpu intesive, then i7 7700hq would be a lot better investment in my opinion.
Also, if you are going to keep your laptop for few years, you can upgrade most of your parts at later stage e.g. (ram,ssd, hdd m.2 ) to keep up with the overall speed/performance over time, where your processor will stay the same and i5 in this case could be the one that holding you back.
Sometimes most of us think that I dont need i7 at this point and not worth the money, but on the long run it will pay of!

I have similar HP Omen but with the added 128gb SSD version (and i7). The HD screen is really nice, reminds me of the iPad screens due to the good PPI. Hopefully, this has the same screen. Personally I find the fan noise a little loud when gaming but you probably wont care due to wearing headphones (I might try re-thermal pasting the CPU as manufacturer applied is not always done efficiently). I think this is definitely a good deal for the specs, like others said it'll be worth paying extra for 1050ti

you cant game on a laptop from my experience, beads of sweat running down your nose, hands on fire from the heat.... if you want to game its desktop PC or console for me.

When did you last try? 10 years ago? I do love gaming laptop threads, the amount of misinformation is astounding.

i5's, especially mobile i5's are junk.

too bad it has a **** 1050 inside though

You got me :laughing:

I have a 250gb ssd drive spare, would I be able to use it in this laptop and keep the 1tb hard drive in as well?

It has space for one 2.5" and one M.2 (NVMe) drive. Could stick the 1tb in a USB 3.0 caddy.

in what respect? its better than a ps4 gpu so you can expect to game at least as well as that which is enough for most, you also have the added benefit of it being a laptop for work, videos, internet etc. In comparison to a 1060 yes its extremely weak but this is £600 what can you really expect?

Hi,sounds like a few guys know what they are talking about,looking for a desktop pc around the £500 mark.
Any ideas ,not into gaming ,more everyday use plus office work for the Mrs.
TIA

Ok cheers, never thought of that

No as the 1tb is using the slot you need unless you can get a adapter to convert the m.2 slot and find somewhere to mount it or just buy a m.2 drive slot it in job done.

You got a link for that? I couldn't see a 15 - 7559 for sale?

How bad is the screen on the 7567? (I'm assuming you got the 1080p).

It's got a 1050, you're probably never going to encounter a game that's CPU-bound by this machine. It's a solid all-round spec, especially at this price.

Adding memory or an SSD would not invalidated the warranty, so the 2 year warranty is a good thing.

By the looks of it you have to get a top up card that takes 4 days to come though. Id hate to load up a card with 600 just to find out its out of stock. No refunds either...

wow a 600 pound laptop thats as good as a mid range pc from 5 years ago

Yep. I picked up another PS4 for my other half a few months ago for £130 pre-owned. I'd say that's much better value for money for the specs.

Jesus

These threads really bring out the nutters

What a deal! :

This a good deal then? Been looking for something which I can photoshop and run illustrator on. Nothing intense but since i'm not in a rush haven't been looking for anything however this looks okay?

The screen is ok, but now seeing the one of the Hp omen I can see the the dell one has some lack of colours and problems when you look at it from a different angle.
If you have had IPS screens before you will probably say that is a bad screen, otherwise it's ok. For me it's fine for what you pay.

Games like CS GO, civilization, minecraft, also in multiplayer games like arma, bf3/4/1.

ɴᴏᴛ ᴀ ғᴀɴ ᴏғ ʜᴘ. ʙᴏᴜɢʜᴛ ᴏɴᴇ ʟᴀsᴛ ʏᴇᴀʀ ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ ᴏᴠᴇʀʜᴇᴀᴛᴇᴅ sᴏ ʜᴀᴅ ᴛᴏ sᴇɴᴅ ɪᴛ ʙᴀᴄᴋ. sᴄᴀʀᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴜsᴛ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ.

CAPS LOCK I think you left it on.

Can you confirm the RAM setup? Is it 1x8 or 2x4. Just wondering if upgrading to 16GB is just adding one more stick or replacing both. I’m also presuming this doesn’t support 32GB (2x16)?

It has 2 of 4gb.

This is a great deal, the 1050 is fine for gaming as long as you are happy with med/high settings and 60fps at 1080p, if you want higher gfx you will probably have to drop to the 45fps range. This will play any game at playable framerates if you adjust the gfx accordingly. Have a look on youtube for 1050 gaming videos to see for yourself.
The cpu is a proper quadcore not a typical laptop i5 and will feel much more like using a desktop.
The RAM is a good amount, 16 is completely unnecessary for 99% of people, in fact most users of this will probably struggle to use the 8 unless they are running VM's or 3 million chrome tabs.
I would upgrade the HD to an ssd, but thats about it.
If you want to get an idea about how good this, have a look at the Dell XPS 15, most of the components it uses are here for almost half the price.

This is a good deal if you are happy playing most modern games at low-medium settings at 30fps.
You will be able to play most e-Sports games at High 60+ FPS.

2GB Vram is limiting. Go into BF1 online and watch your gaming experience die within a few minutes.

To run modern games at a decent budget level (40fps+ & Med-High), you'll need a 1050ti at bare minimum, or a 1060 (though obviously prices increase dramatically the higher up the GPU level you go).

For Desktop and Console compairon.
You will get better performance on a X1S or PS4 Slim for under £200.

If you were to build this laptop as desktop, it's equivalent would cost £320 going by this weeks Amazon prices.
- Obviously not including monitor or periphirals.

TL/DR: This is the cheapest laptop around to game on the newest titles on the lowest settings.
In a couple of demanding games (especially online), your Vram won't be enough and you'll sink.
You can build this for almost half the price.
You can build a MUCH better upgrade to this for £350 (1050ti).

If you NEED to game on a laptop right now, and only have £600 and there is no way you can play on console or desktop, then this is your only option.

Personally I'd either save up for a few more months or deal with playing on console/desktop.

Im sorry but any 'u' cpu is gna be naff for gaming. Don't kill the messenger.

And certainly not future proof, maybe about 5 years ago with today's games

Ok.

So many gullibles buying bad hardware, research beforehand, then do some more research, then some more. Only then should you make the purchase.

Hey, could you give me a list to all those amazon parts to build a comparable pc (with 1050ti) for that price, I haven't built a pc in years and really need a new one but don't have a massive budget so that would be awesome if you could link me to everything I need!

Thanks!

Nice second trolling attempt. Keep beating the horse, my friend - maybe it will eventually do a Jesus.

Good thing this laptop doesn't have a 'u' cpu then...

lmao, the irony of you saying research, research,research and you can't even read that it isn't a u processor. :smile:

even if it was a U cpu they still can do gaming. Its not like the game doesn't open just because its not a quad core.

Good spec, but it's still an HP and the build quality let's it down.

I'm looking for a good development laptop and this comes close, just not close enough (just) (fierce)

Yeah this is my concern, spec wise sounds good but HP's build quality are not great. But then for the price you can replace in three years...

It might not hit 60fps but will easily play the latest games in 1080p: 1050 laptop gameplay examples

Here you can find a guy playing in the very same laptop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i2LSCLyWdU

another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCn4TRX6ZXc

Go to Egg/Amazon/eBay for today prices:
1050ti (£125-£130)
G4560 (£55-£60)
Evga 430 (£35)
8-16GB DDR4 (£35-£80)
750GB-1TB HDD (£25-£40)
1151 mobo (£45)
Case (£20+)

£325-£350 depending on price now.
I'd plump an extra £100 for a 1060 6GB for a 100% performance boost that'll keep you ticking along for another 18 months at Med-High-Ultra 60FPS.

Yep, only real difference is that this doesn't have hyperthreading whereas the I7 does.

g4560? lmao more like i5 7400 which is ~5% faster. and where is HDD???? its about £550 same spec pc with monitor keyboard and mouse. therefore this is very good laptop for the money. hate when clueless people comment on this website. had to make an account just for this comment...

You need to learn to read before trying to give any more useless advice on here. It's an i5-7300HQ you numpty.

For anyone questioning the cpu performance it's got a cpu benchmark of 6807 which is pretty decent. Just don't expect great battery life with an HQ cpu.

I already said in first comment, build this laptop as desktop for £300 if you shop around - not inc. monitor, M&K.

I also said this is a good deal if £600 is your top-end budget for a gaming laptop and refuse anything else, as that's your only option for £600.

Clueless people? If you had read my posts properly, you wouldn't have had to create an account and type a nothing post.

I'm just testing tomb raider and in high settings it runs pretty smooth. I think I'm happy with the purchase, I was a bit afraid of the 2gb of ram of the gtx 1050, but so far all the games I've tested have ran more than decent. I recommend the laptop, if you want a gaming pc and do not want to spend crazy amounts of money, go for this one. Super cool.

As I said before, if you want me to test something just let me know.

Are the specs the same as John Lewis have listed, I googled the actual model name and number off JL website and it says it should have a 128gb ssd as well as the 1tb hard drive.

I just need a laptop for work, mainly for thousands tabs of chrome and some Microsoft Office and Photoshop.

Am I overpaying if I won't use this for gaming?

I'd recommend the new iMac pro as an alternative to this, it has lots of usb connections, it's cheap and best of all everything is upgradeable so will be futureproof for the foreseeable future

Wouldn't it be cheaper to build one yourself?

Battlegrounds Player Unknown please :smile:

it does not come with the ssd drive, so yes. It's the same specs listed on the john lewis website.

45-55 on med/high with low textures and shadows.
Will change (hopefully improve) over time through optimisation.

Ok cheers, thought it might have been missed off the spec on the description.

Picked mine up today going to give it a blast tomorrow.

I'm glad. Let me know your thoughts!

I have a Dell workstation with i5-6440hq. I set the maximum processor state to 90 per cent in advanced power options as it is only in the last ten per cent that the fan, thermal and power goes crazy. I do some pretty processor intensive work, I've never switched to the 100 per cent power profile I have. Power consumption at 90% is about half of the 100% figure.

Thanks, perfectly playable then?

100%
Very playable at 30fps upwards.

You want textures and shadows set low for your own advantage in the game anyway.

Personally, I'm building a new PC and buying the parts slowly, hoping that Prime Day tomorrow will offer some discounts on a decent graphics card and CPU.

It would run fine but you really want an SSD playing that game or everything takes a while to initially load

Does anyone know if the m.2 slot spare is pcie bus or sata3?

Found it on the manual
PCIe NVMe Three Level Cell (TLC) M.2 solid-state drive (SSD)

Ordered one. Hope it was worth the money

The number of people defending the 1050 GPU is quite amusing.

This laptop is definitely a good price for the spec, but don't let that delude you into thinking the 2gb 1050 GPU is good for gaming.
It is not a good GPU for gaming.
And by gaming, I'm not talking about some browser games, or where you have to turn the settings to low.
That's not gaming.

You're just plain and straight wrong. I don't even have to set out an argument. Simply go and look at the many videos on youtube already evidencing that you can play a lot of games very well on this. Oh and I'm not talking about browser games - in case you make that assumption again (ridiculous in itself).

I don't know about you, but normal people who specifically buy a gaming computer would not expect to make compromises when playing their games.
You can argue all day if you wish, but that GPU is at the bottom end of the current Nvidia line up.
That means compromises will need to be made when playing the majority of modern AAA titles.

Let's not try and delude people into thinking this GPU is going to be good for gaming.
If it was, there wouldn't be several far more expensive GPU models in the lineup ahead of this.

All mobile CPUs are crap. A mobile i7 is slower than a desktop i3.

i5's are not junk, they are more than enough for gaming.

Yes, plus it's made by HP so will fall apart in about 6 months.

Could I install a Samsung Evo 850 in this as well as the 1TB HDD? Or would it be instead of

Have to agree on that one, the keyboard stopped working just over a year the last time I bought one.

Could I install a Samsung Evo 850 in this as well as the 1TB HDD? Or would it be instead of

any chance you can see how total war warhammer runs on this please?

thanks!

BLINDING! I paid £20 more from Microsoft Store when they sold it, though mine has a 128GB SSD - does this one not have an SSD?


Here's my review on the other thread:
It's brilliant. The plastics feel cheap - they flex under tension. And as much as its designed to be a gaming laptop it isn't as garish as I first thought which is a plus point. It looks quite nice!

The earlier comments on the screen are a misnomer - the screen is lovely. The matt effect makes it appear a little washed out - every matt screen I've seen looks that way tbh. Viewing angles are great, responsiveness is great, detail is great.

Performance is amazing - I'm running most games on high to maximum to ultra settings at native HD resolution. I'll say that again - performance is incredible! Those of you complaining a 1050 is no good for gaming are seriously deluded. Almost everything I've thrown at it is set to near max levels on HD. Though, 4K gaming would be another matter entirely and you'll have to switch to medium settings for that. Runs emulators really well too - most of my cemu games are perfect.


Sound is average - though could do with more bass. I don't believe the bang and olufson hype. Basically it's "good" but nothing amazing. On highest levels you get distortion.



Verdict: For £620 - Initial hiccups don't inspire confidence but I think the error is moot, and aside from the cheap flexing of the plastics [my only real negative about the laptop] - I don't imagine anything would come close for a while. At £600 its a real steal. So much so that I'm sharing the link with my brother :-]

I would definitely buy this again at this price :-P basically, and my daily "driver" is an XPS 13 9360....

I couldn't test it cause I don't have that game. But in theory with the graphic card it has you would be getting this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L1e0czKyWE

I couldn't test it cause I don't have that game. But in theory with the graphic card it has you would be getting this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L1e0czKyWE

First day doing updates and getting the things i need installed performance is very good so far.I am going to add a m.2 256gb drive in real soon clone the main migrate the main hardrive to it and use that as a boot drive.Then will see about adding more ram i will keep the old hardrive and memory in case of warranty claim i will put it all back in if i need to.

That's great man. I'm pretty happy with the performance. I know that the speed of the OS booting and average speed loading stuff will be much faster with an ssd, so there's no worries there.

Please let me know if you find a good m.2 ssd, to buy it too.

Cheers man!

No, they are not. I'm sure you're aware that i5's don't employ hyperthreading, whereas i7's do. By the time you add the extra spend of an SSD your bottleneck is going to be the CPU. You're better off buying an i7 with an SSD in the first place. You'll not in any reality get gaming performance on a mobile quadcore without hyperthreading, and very poor load times with yesterday's mechanical hard drive technology, so it begs the question of why buy a mid range machine for "gaming" in the first place? unless of course the game you want to play is solitare..

How do people feel this compares to this?
http://www.ebuyer.com/770451-msi-gl62-7qf-gaming-laptop-backpack-9s7-16j562-1672

Edit: This comes with a 960m instead of the 1050 and the same CPU.

thanks for looking, appreciate it :smile: been looking to upgrade my old rig for a while now, very tempted!!

A top end i5 (unlocked k version) is absolutely fine as a gaming CPU.

I brought it to my office and a colleague who is really into games gives his thumbs up. So happy for that

That's just telling you the SSD port type on the 256GB/512GB SSD models, both of which come with the PCIe NVMe M.2 type... I'd personally check before ordering an SSD for it, unless maybe anyone has ordered this specific model and has already opened it up to find out / install one? There could be a chance the port may be different / left off the motherboard entirely, although thinking about it - unlikely. Really interested to know as hovering over buy!

Just an extra piece of information. I have recently spoken with a John Lewis agent on their live chat and I they confirmed that you can't install an SSD without invalidating the 2 year warranty. I also asked them if they could install one on my behalf and keep the warranty intact and was told that they cannot modify items before selling them.

Honestly I don't know how you can say these things without it being trolling. Nearly all gaming is NOT CPU bound, most games are still optimised to take advantage of good single core performance. Besides GPU is far more important.

It's not really relavant either, since this laptop doesn't even use a U-rated mobile chip it uses a HQ rated mobile CPU, which is barely any slower than the i5-7400 desktop part, which again, is fine for gaming. You don't start needing an i7 until you get into GTX 1080/1080Ti levels. If you don't believe me check with Logical Increments.

You're really not helping PC gaming by spreading fud about hardware requirements. People (myself included) buy 'mid-range' machines for gaming as they are fine for most people playing at 1080p, they are also better value than consoles over their lifetime. Stop being a hardware snob, not everyone has the same amount of money to spend on the hobby as apparently do.

This is the one i will get
Samsung 960 M.2-2280 PCI Express 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive

Link: http://amzn.eu/hH2WSdD

You need to look at the manual on the top you will see which graphics card versions you have then follow it down you will see what slots and memory you need etc.

They would say that to put you off upgrading lol.

They would say that so that people don't go tampering inside the laptop and then feel they should be able to get their money back if they damage it.

HI all,

Anyone have a good 1050 ti laptop? :smiley:

Also for thi laptop is the ram 2 x 4gb sticks or 1x8gb stick. Obviously annoying you will have to ugprade and buy 2x8gb sticks a an additional expense.

You're going to be looking at £1000+ for a ti and above.
At this point I just can't give any advice as I couldn't suggest anyone spend that much for a 1050ti in laptop form.

That was my research hence why this seemed compelling, but then add an ssd and the ram and you are up to 750 already.

No need to upgrade the RAM in this laptop.
For obvious reasons I would never advise anyone to buy this, due to typically low graphics card performance and very poor build quality.

SSD would definitely make you happier by increasing load speeds, but once you're creeping over £700 for this laptop, it just seems crazy.

Like I said in previous posts; if you MUST have a gaming laptop and your maximum spend is £600. This is the laptop for you.

If £600 is you maximum spend, and you want to get the best bang for your buck, go Desktop and build a better spec gaming PC for cheaper.

Would this be any good for photo editing using Adobe Lightroom?

Your major issue with Lightroom is:
The Omen's 15.6-inch display can reproduce only 71 percent of the sRGB color gamut, which is below the 95 percent mainstream average. At 247 nits, it's nowhere near the 278-nit average. Basically the screen is only good for gaming.

If you're worried that the laptop can't handle it - it most certainly can. You'll definitely need an external monitor though.

HP has quite a better GFX card but has worse build quality

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050/m27242vs3650

Swings and roundabouts.

Just read this on TrustedReview.com regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 7000. If it's true, then this is very good news...

Updated: Dell has just announced that it's bringing IPS panels to all Inspiron 15 7000 Gaming models in the coming months at no extra cost. This is a huge deal, because the current TN screen is by far the biggest problem with what is otherwise a great product. As soon as IPS models become available I'll get one in for review and update this piece.

Here's the link...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/dell-inspiron-15-7000-gaming-review

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-Inspiron-Gaming-Laptop-i5-7300HQ/dp/B01MR90P51/ref=lp_13887620031_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1499719632&sr=1-2

£700 for 1050 4gb card and 256gb sdd

£100 more for more memory on 1050 card and an ssd, shame not a big one.

Warning... The viewing angle on those Dell screens are awful though

I just returned one of those dells. It has real problems with stutters and even worse when you connect a second screen. Probably those problems will be sorted in the future, but so far it seems to be more than 9 months with people having those problems. confused

And yes, now that I have the HP omen I can notice that the screen of the Dell is really bad.

Quad core not dual

Nope. I have this GPU on a slightly different Omen model (it came with a SSD as well), Ive never had to play a single game on low or anything close to it yet. You may not get Ultra on every game but V. High/High Is usually what I play at. Note I aim for 45+fps - You have to make some compromises with a budget lappy so you may have to turn AA down/off on one game or shadows down on another - it''s a game by game thing but to suggest this is a Low settings gfx card is down to either your comp is malfunctioning or you are exaggerating for effect (ie trolling). There are a few youtube channels that concentrate on testing this card so ignore the waffle here and check them out. This channel for example tests games at different settings and different resolutions.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcGFs4XJyQkkyJRGgWadh0Q/videos
If you need better fps than this then this lappy isn't for you. Up to now Ive been well chuffed with mine (and I payed nearly 150 more than this)

Put it next to an i7 surface book if you really want to see the difference. I've got 3 laptops (surface book, surface pro, Lenovo yoga 2 pro), a liquid cooled ryzen 7 1800x / 64gb workstation (which I built myself), a 98 core server (which I also built myself), a few low end Windows tablets, a galaxy tab s3, a sammy s8+, a note 4 and a couple of consoles, and about 14 "retro" mobile devices in my private collection of heritage tech.

Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. I'm sure as an expert you'll already know that i5's do not have hyperthreading, whereas i7 do. It makes a massive difference, hence why they are so much more expensive to put in a machine. Swap this machine out with i7 and an SSD and you'll be on the right track.

The components of this laptop does not a gaming machine make, no matter how much they try to push it as one. That's due to the price point, but make no mistake, this is not a gaming laptop. The price point for a genuine gaming laptop will be in the £1000-£2000 region, and in general a lot more bulky than this to support the appropriate hardware, with a few exceptions such as the new Asus ROG Zephyrus GX501 (http://www.techradar.com/reviews/asus-rog-zephyrus)

Crack out doom and tomb raider on this machine, should do that without too slow a frame rate.

Does anyone know if you get any games with the deal or any offers to claim a game with hp.

It would run on high/ultra settings. I have a laptop with an i7 4710mq and GTX 860m and it runs GTA V @ 1080p on high settings with around 60fps.

And for people who want to know how much difference the cpu makes (given a particular GPU) go to Youtube and search for GTX 10xx i3 i5 i7. You may be surprised how little different the CPU makes in games:-) So many self styled "experts" talks nonsense here. Yes we know i7's are faster than i5s, which in turn are faster than i3s but is the difference as massive as you would imagine? Plenty of examples to be found...

I just picked mine up
Only just unboxed and turned on but very superficial first impressions...
Overall the build quality looks and feels ok. Not quite as solid as the Dell corporate models I work with all day but miles better than than my previous Asus (Never buy an Asus!)
Surprisingly heavy for a 15 inch laptop, noticeably heavier than my GF's 17 inch Asus.
Display is pretty good, a bit washed out on full brightness but again, better than my Asus.
Nice red backlit keyboard, turns on and off with F5, keys feel sturdy, not much wobble, seems like they'll hold up ok. Enter key is smaller than right shift key which will take a bit of getting used to.
Just noodling around installing Chrome and Dropbox, it runs nice and quiet, no hang, but quite warm.
Speakers do NOT seem good, haven't played any music but windows system sounds tinny and scratchy. I use earphones anyway so I don't really care about that TBH.
Now to uninstall all the usual manufacturer bloatware, get steam installed and fire up a game! Will update with more feedback

There is an ssd m.2 in the amazon warehouse deals for £60 is a 250gb one. I think it's worthy for this laptop: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=sr_1_2?m=A2OAJ7377F756P&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1499810271&sr=8-2&keywords=ssd+m.2

You have to hurry up if you want to get one. The 20% discount ends at midnight

Thanks got it for £59.49 bargain.

A GTX 750 Ti can run GTA5 at higher frame-rates on higher settings than the PS4 version, and the GTX 1050 is about 30-40% faster than that.

You can CPU bottleneck a GTX 1070 fairly easily at 1080p with an i5 but really and truly, where your bottleneck happens is all down to resolution. A fast GPU at 1080p will bottleneck easily even with an i7 - and is a massive waste of money - but run your GTX 1080 Ti at 4K and the chances are an i5 will work just fine.

Haha joker.
By your way of thinking we can go out and buy a laptop with an intel atom, and in your world it will still have gaming performance like an i7!
No hyperthreading = poor experience.

lol you need to at least compare like with like
i am sure if you put a 1080ti with a potato its not going to be great but if you pair it with a given family of cpu you will be able to see the difference or lack of

Brilly, my potato powered 1090Ti runs awesomely well. It's all down to the 80TB of DDR23 ram that's installed on it. I noticed 340FPS difference which I definitely need - my eyes are different than most humans after-all. Even a 5FPS drop in performance affects the professional outcomes of my gaming career. So please - all you self-styled know-it-all's don't know a thing when it comes to gaming PCs.

And don't get me started on LEDs - this laptop only comes in RED! HAHAHAHAHA - controllable LED lighting is essential to a gamer. At the right light wavelength - you can expect to win or lose a game. It all matters in the end. I can't believe anyone buys a laptop these days where you can't change the colours. My i9 powered laptop changes colours and this HP doesn't - that's just shocking. For £600 I expect my laptop to change colours. It costs £20 to buy colour changing RAM for my desktop - I can't believe HP are ripping you all off without adding colours.

And if it's not an i9 at 6GHz and if you don't have 3TB of DDR10 RAM, don't try and tell me you are a gamer.

And if it doesn't cost £1200 more than the standard price of the component - then you have no clue.


PS - I hope you don't use standard HDMI cables to connect these things to your monitors? My Nordhost Valhalla HDMI cables cost £3299.99. They have been de-oxygenated for added performance, and have 86% velocity of propogation - and are gold-plated - so the HDMI signals go to the monitor faster and decreases the latency from 5ms to 4ms. They're also less noisy so you don't get graininess - which can affect the eyesight on FPS games.

Sound cables are also really important - I only use Audioquest Fires in my gaming setup. They cost more than my i9 so you KNOW they must be great.

No-one mentioned the Intel Atom other than you. Hyperthreads are not the same as full cores. They can make a game smoother but not neccesarily faster. Does the fact that the new AMD chips have more threads make them faster than the i7? No of course not. Also for a game to take advantage of extra cores it has to be programmed to do so - how many games do you know are programmed to use more than 4 cores? Threading (of any sort) isn't just plug and play - if an OS automatically split the workload of a game (or any program for that matter) that wasn't designed to be run across cores/threads then, for obvious reasons, it is highly likely it would lock up, not run faster.
One core with hyperthread is not the same as 2 cores - it simulates a second core

What a horrible human being. I'm impressed.

Six vs Four = Not a lot...

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Are-six-cores-better-than-four-for-gaming.234162.0.html

If this doesn't fill you with confidence nothing will.

Snobbery aside, great price for a laptop which will play games to a smiliar level of a console, no brainer unless you want to pay stupid money.

Really torn between this and the MSI from argos. Not looking to heavy game at all. Just want to play the sims. Footy manager. Maybe a little ark. Which would be ideal?

I have a desktop rig MSI nightblade with a 980 card in, 16gb of ram and it handles all the games I wanna play. Unfortunately have to sell it as I have no space for a desk anymore. So a laptop will have to suffice.

Haven't tried the MSI, but I've been with this one testing it since last Saturday and I'm pretty happy with it. I recommend it, the only thing is I'm adding an SSD drive to get better loading times.
Cheers

I wished it had a ips screen confused

You just looking for reasons to get this laptop :wink:

Have you played any games on this yet? I think it's hard to best for the price which is why I'm so tempted. I don't really fancy spending £1000 plus on a laptop when I don't play any of the games they're made to be played on.

https://youtu.be/wpSMlS7_zAE?t=4m45s
Struggles to keep up with all but older games.

I'm exactly like you. But a colleague convinced me at the beggining to get a £1000 (dell 7567, i7, 16gb ram, ssd+hdd, gtx1050ti 4gb).. games were running amazing, but to be honest I don't play that much and for me to play in the ULTRA quality and play in the HIGH quality is the same. Well, I ended up returning the Dell because it has a stuttering problem. Sometimes the mouse was freezing suring normal windows use and I was thinking "****.... I spent £1000 in this crap and is giving me problems"... so I decided to return it. The I got this one, the hp omen, and I'm super happy, a more reasonable price and all the games I've tried have worked smoothly with high quality. These are the games I've tried:

- Tomb Raider (the last one), hight quality
- Shadows of Mordor, high quality
- League of Legends, Highest quality
- Alien Isolation, Highest quality
- Factorio. 2D game

I don't play very often, but I like to have a graphic card that support games in case I want to play. I recommend this one man, for a casual player I think is more than enough.

Cheers

It has IPS screen.

Given The Witcher 3 is oft cited as a bit of a beast, and as I bought the game a few months ago in a sale but never really got round to playing it I thought I would give it a test
A few things to note:
I left the PostProcessing setting on High all the way through (High is the maximum)
I used the GFX presets only - obviously you wouldn't do this in reality, you would change some settings higher/lower depending on your own preferences
The game appears to have a max framerate cap of 60
This was just a quick and dirty test to give people a rough idea what to expect - it entailed running around killing a few baddies.
I used Fraps which usually steals about 3 or 4 frames

2017-07-12 18:25:24 - witcher3
Frames: 3816 - Time: 137047ms - Avg: 27.844 - Min: 24 - Max: 36 Ultra

2017-07-12 18:30:49 - witcher3
Frames: 4134 - Time: 119500ms - Avg: 34.594 - Min: 30 - Max: 41 High

2017-07-12 18:37:59 - witcher3
Frames: 8961 - Time: 181375ms - Avg: 49.406 - Min: 33 - Max: 62 Med

2017-07-12 18:51:47 - witcher3
Frames: 8014 - Time: 138766ms - Avg: 57.752 - Min: 48 - Max: 62 Low

Even on the Ultra setting it played very smooth considering the framerate was so low.

Question to ppl who bought it. Where is win10 code?

I should have my m.2 ssd tomorrow did you get one on prime deals.

Yes, I got the one that I recommended here, £60, the same that you bought. I got onether one today, but I bought it without discount, so I will return this one. The one I'm going to use it's going to arrive next Saturday.

I recommend you to check some videos in youtube about how to open it because it seems to be a bit difficult to open and I've seen that some of them have broken the sd card gate upper plastic while they try to open it. As I said, on Saturday I will open this laptop.

PS: Also got a 8gb ram module with the amazon warehouse disccount, it was £40.
Cheers.

Win 10 Code?

Windows 10 is linked to the hardware spec - there are no more codes. On a desktop PC major hardware changes would cause authentication requests - a call to Microsoft and an explanation and they're usually OK with reinitializing your product code. Most laptops have TPM chips inside them and an embedded key on the motherboard.

https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04640037

So no more product codes - Windows 10 is preinstalled.

Hi , are HP OMEN 15-ax203na and HP OMEN 15-ax202na both same except 202 got 128GB SSD ?
or are there any more differences. HP OMEN 15-ax202na is on sale for £699.00. which one is better to buy.
HP OMEN 15-ax202na for £699.00 or HP OMEN 15-ax203na for £ 599.00.

Yes they are the same, one comes with an ssd and the other doesn't.

I can't spot any other difference. The SSD does make Windows feel a lot snappier.

Yeah, with an ssd everything is much much faster.
I got the £599 version and i bought an ssd in amazon (250gb) and its a bit cheaper than the £699.

I wouldn't even think of getting this crap. Firstly no USB type C in this age we are in, where USB type C is necessary. Secondly the right get's so hot that it is almost unbearable to type on not to even talk about gaming. Thirdly the SD card is slow and i already have a crack at the top just by resting my palm there and finally we have the screen. The IPS display in this, is at the bottom of gaming laptops in the market.I would rather go for the dell with the TN panel knowing that only the screen might give me an issue and just replace it later. Don't waste your money on this guys. If you want a good gaming laptop check MSI they have good and cheap laptops that run very well

Can you link me to the memorymodule you got.

Also i think this is probly a easy way to clone your os and data to the m.2 drive and free.
http://www.backup-utility.com/download.html

I wouldn't void my warranty just because it is a *bit cheaper* Just get the 699 pound one from Hp it is the safer option

Update guys i managed to get the back cover off very easy(and no i did not break the sd gate phew) just take your time and i have now detected the new m.2 drive and cloning it as we speak will keep you updated.

I got this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Did you use a tool to open it, a card? or just screw driver and your fingers ?

You wouldn't. As long as you don't damage any other parts whilst doing so you will be fine. I had a link to an answer by their customer services that states this that I think I posted here on one of the other Omen offers a few months ago (or was it YouTube?). I'll have a look to see if I still have the link and post it here.

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Notebooks/HP-Omen-HDD-and-SSD-user-upgrade-warranty-and-legal/td-p/5988649

Here's a link to someone who gave it a go - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlJyh2zHWFk
You do have to be careful mind:-)

If you think USB type C is so necessary (in the age we're in) why on earth did you buy this lappy?
And if you'res is overheating to the extent you are claiming then I would take it back because that isn't normal.
Afterburner tells me mine is usually in the 50s-60s Celsius range which is perfectly fine. Never seen it reach 70 yet.

Not sure people always get the idea behind budget lappys (or budget anything for that matter) - compromises are made to keep the price down, clearly. Now if those compromises for a particular lappy go against what is acceptable to you then you simply don't buy it.
I never felt (in this age or any age:-)) that a type C connector was in any way essential for me so I didn't consider it. What I did consider for a budget gaming laptop was whether it played games at a level that was acceptable to me - it turned out that it played them better than I was expecting. So, result:-)

In this video the guys opens it very gently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSUddx3bGc8

I used one of them plastic cards was very careful but its not as hard as people say it is three clips at the front then work your way around both sides then pull cover off.

Guys when you put your m.2 ssd in

1 go into bios and disable secure boot.
2 and enable legacy.
you will then able to find your drive press F9 on boot to selct which drive you would like to boot.
Mine is all working now great super fast m.2 ssd drive for £59 next memory upgrade.

I now have the standard 1tb hardrive as storage but i left windows on it just in case of warranty all i have to do is change the boot drive back and i am good to go.Also my m.2 ssd is my main boot drive now which is much faster more quiet and better battery life all for £59 :wink:
If anyone needs any assistance just pm me or leave message here thanks.

Hi. Couple questions can someone please confirm.
Does this laptop accept either SATA M.2 SSD or NVMe M.2 SSD?
I assume replacing the HDD hard drive with an SSD hard drive would give the same performance gain as an M.2 SATA? (Not an NVMe M.2 as they are much faster)

Mine boots in 10 seconds with a m.2 sata. yes to your first question and yes to the later.

That's really useful information, did you use the software you recommended before to clone it ?

Yes use the link i gave above that was so easy to clone the hardrive took 5 mins selsect the source drive then the destination drive then click clone.
here is again http://www.backup-utility.com/download.html

Refurbished....

Size wise, it's a bit big and heavy.
I might be returning due to the weight and dimension :confused:

Why has the thread title changed to "refurbished"???

Haha... Gave me such a laugh... thx

I just bought this laptop. I've been using it on my lap to install updates and browsing the web. I've noticed it feeling hot. I moved it onto my desk and installed SpeedFan - I'm getting a reading of 50c. Is this a similar experience for anyone else?

Possibly because somebody posted "Refurbished..." in previous post, but I think this was referring to Dell outlet...

I found one dead pixel on my screen today mmm what's return policy for dead pixel these days for a new exchange.

When I went to buy it, I asked if I could return it if I just didn't like it and they told me that I had 30 days. So if you have the 1tb hdd intact, you can just go and return it and buy a new one. I don't know how is the return policy when there is a dead pixel.
Anyway, I'm sorry to hear that

Yes 50c is normal

I5 temp range:
Normal Temp. 45 to 65°C
Maximum Temp 100°C

Good news since i had a stuck pixel squashed it with my finger a few times and then played a pixel fixer video on youtube after 10 mins it was fixed :wink:

Does anyone know if the M.2 slot on this laptop handles NVMe at 2x or 4x speeds? If it does has anyone used one of the NVMe SSD's like a Samsung 960 EVO and seen much difference between it and a SATA SSD? I have been reading posts that even with the large benchmark figures of NVMe it isn't really noticeable on actual useage of the machine ref boot times or games etc.

It does support it but not worth the extra money i got crucial 276gb £59 does the job brilliantly i now am going to try a 16gb double rack stick which will allow me 32gb ram.

You know thay say it'll make you go blind,
I think it's already having an affect on you if 7 inches isn't enough :stuck_out_tongue:

Let us know how it goes with two 16gb modules.

Well for now only got one £102 a pop will get one later but should be here by monday will try the 16gb and leave one of the 4gb ones in total 20gb.

I did get ones of these bargain offered £35 for it http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oculus-Rift-DK1-Virtual-Reality-Headset/252961773018?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

It will say min GTX970 or 1060 but you need to install this runtime below.

https://developer.oculus.com/downloads/package/oculus-runtime-for-windows/

Can this play solitaire?

is this model ax203na made specifically for JL ? I can't seem to find the same model anywhere. it could be a typo as ax20na is the model sold by other retailers.

Plz link the ssd bargain is it still up :wink:

Hey. it doesn't allow me to send you pm's. It comes with windows 10 home and after the first boot it updated to the version 1703. Cheers

Could you use the oculus rift with this laptop or is there a better f
Deal for a pc or laptop around the same price point?
Thanks

It runs hot. That's the downside. See the reviews

Until very recently ive been gaming on a 650m. Very capable graphics for games over 2 years old and its amazing what newer titles you can get to run if you know how to play with your settings.

I was thinking about getting this, then decided to get;

PS4 Slim 1tb plus Injustice 2, WII U with BOTW and Mario Kart 8, also an IPAD mini 4 LTE 64gb (All 2nd hand)

Did I make the right choice?

Stonking deal, heat added.

No, if you wanted a Laptop

Yes, battlegrounds isn't that demanding.

I am getting 60fps on call of duty modern warfare SSD as main SD and the 1tb hardrivr for installation of games.

and to be fair, most people dont *need* an I7 they just assume they need it. the main advantage of the i7 of the i5 comes in if you are doing work with virtual machines etc. For day to day use you are basically wasting money.

I didn't buy this but I have commented in the thread.

For those that want a high spec., durable (MLC) and fast NVME SSD...

Buy the 512GB Toshiba XG3 THNSN5512GPU7 M.2 2280 NVMe from CEX online or in Pontypridd for £110 plus £2.50 delivery. They have more than four in stock. Same as Toshiba OCZ RD400s that are £255.40 on Amazon.

I just received mine and fitted into a Dell mobile workstation.

Mine had been taken out of a Dell laptop, had Dell recovery partition with W10 Home and hardly used (less than ten hours, can't remember exactly). I suspect they all have. So, not shagged in a server.

Perfect for this machine. You'll just need a screw to fit it.

Will it run Elite ?

soooooooo good a deal, seriously tempted. However, I cant afford it :smile: for now.

Would anybody who has bought this please give their opinions and if time give a mini review on what modern games play like?

Thanks (still undecided on whether to buy it)

Just checkout youtube for '1050m gameplay'

Cheers for the info but I would sooner hear first hand what people think of it.

its just you may only find a few reviews of the whole laptop but that search term on youtube will show you dozens of videos of many different games and the fps people are getting. its a great indicator of what it can and cant do. gamewise.

I've looked at this every day but the comments on screen brightness and colour range are putting me off. There doesn't look to be anything else worth getting for the same money though. HP have a new one out but it's a lot more and I don't see any reviews https://www.johnlewis.com/hp-omen-15-ce004na-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-1tb-15-6-shadow-black/p3265124?sku=236999265&s_kwcid=2dx92700022664132457&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2p6Sh52N1QIVzbvtCh0Y1wyUEAQYASABEgIkQfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#media-overlay_show

Well if you want a cheap lappy then you better snap one up as the "new" version they released are poorer value for money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgAUU3eMiKs

Anyone know how you post "just" the link like you used to be able to without it showing this big video box? And is it no longer possible to reply to someone without having to quote them? I can't see a reply button any more. Why oh why do they feel the need to "improve" websites :-)

I purchased this laptop 3 days ago and I was also worried about the screen. Let me put your mind to rest. It looks great, the colours aren't as vivid as some laptops I've seen, but my games look great and it is bright enough. I have it turned down to 70% on brightness and I've been in the garden today in the sun and I could still see everything absolutely fine. Get it, you won't regret it.

Got this 3 days ago, so far I've played PlayerUnknows Battleground, Medium video settings and getting an average of 42fps. Set it to low and getting about 75fps. The i5 is running a little high at times when playing this game, but from what I've read PUBG isn't optimized yet and so the stats should improve. I also installed a 128GB Sandisk M.2 drive. That made a massive difference in speed. Pressing the power button to being able to log into windows is less the 10 seconds.

Bought this from John Lewis a week or so ago and the first laptop they sent had severe screen bleed. I exchanged it for another which, sadly, had only slightly less screen bleed. John Lewis have been really good with returns, but I've decided to give up on the Omen.

Oh, and on another note the laptop is NOISY even when idling.

I've had this laptop, for around 5 months. Runs Doom, Battlefield 1, GTA V, tomb raider and pretty much anything I can throw at it. All on high to very high settings at 1080p all at 40fps +. What I would say is that HP has put a lot of effort into regulating power consumption for more battery life on the go. But nothing that can't be disabled, just watch the temps.

It looks like its sold out now, it's not on the JL website anymore

Did you install the 16gb module at the end ?

It's back!!

Apparently, the mobile website says it's sold out, but the full website states it's in stock.

Hey, I've been thinking about a new laptop for general use and development work, not so much gaming, but maybe a little bit. This seems good, though I think maybe the GFX card is a bit overkill for me.

I'm looking for something to last me a long time (6+ years) so am thinking the build quality of the MSI previously posted may be better for me? What would people recommend?

http://www.ebuyer.com/770451-msi-gl62-7qf-gaming-laptop-backpack-9s7-16j562-1672

Hey. I have exactly the same profile as the one you described. I'm a developer and I was looking for something that lasts 5-6 years, but also to be able to play from the time to time. I've been with the hp omen for two weeks and I'm super happy with the performance and it get s noisy when you play games in high quality, but in normal use it's super quite. Go for it if you can, you won't regret

Thanks Miguel, can I just ask what you think of the build quality? That's my main concern, I want something that will really last. Also, did you upgrade to a SSD? All the gamers seem to think it's necessary, but does it run fine for you without?

Cheers.

Well, before this one I had a dell 7567 and the quality was super good, but it had some problems that I couldn't resolve and I returned at the end. Then I bought this one and besides the quality is not as good as the dell I feel it pretty solid. It does not feel cheap at all and all the plastics are solid enough (I repeat the dell was like made out of iron but it was much heavier).
Regarding the ssd, I totally recommend it. I installed an ssd in my previous laptop and it's worthy to invest on it. You go from 2 minutes of a complete normal Windows start (till all your stuff is loaded) to 10 seconds. If you have never used an ssd you will find it quick enough with the 1tb hdd that comes with it, no problem at all with that.the thing with the ssd will improve the performance of any pc it's not just with this one, so if you buy it and ypu are happy with that it's ok. Bit if you want everything to be loaded quicker the answer is an ssd for any computer. The good thing with this pc is that it has two slot for storage, one for the 1tb that is included and other for the possible ssd that you could add in the future. You can have a small ssd you for the operating system and all your personal stuff in the hdd.

Cheer, have a good day

Awesome, thanks a lot for that, really good to know, especially your thoughts on the SSD for non-gamers.

Interestingly enough, I was literally about to buy it when I discovered that Dell are offering £100 off their Inspiron 15 5000 which brings it to £478.99 including VAT, delivered.

I know the processor is not as good (and only two cores) and the graphics chip is not even in the same solar system, but i's £120 cheaper and I don't really need the graphics power...

Anyone have any last minute thoughts on that? I think I'm probably gonna go for the Omen anyway as it's probably more future-proof.

Check this, it's just £382.50. https://prnt.sc/fxtllo . I think it's a real bargain. If you think you don't play, I would go for this one. If you don't like it you can always return it as I did.

I have gone for it, pick it up tomorrow, i will test a few games and get back to people if the deal stays alive if this helps.

You won't regret it. Great laptop. Putting an M.2 drive in made a big difference. Create the backup media first. Install the drive and run the recovery/setup from USB/DVD. This will format both M.2 and 1TB drive, installing the OS on the M.2 and leaving the 1TB blank.

Anything particular to think about while choosing an SSD for this? Apart from being 2.5 M.2, any recommendations or anything to look out for?

Get any, it has compatibility with pciE and NVMe. as long as m.2 it should be ok. I installed a pciE in mine.

PCIE is quite a bit more expensive than SATA isnt it? Is it worth the extra? (Im guessing so if you got PCIE :smile: )

I'm sorry I got confused, it's sata the one I got. And yeah, the sata one is fast enough, winodws loads in 10 seconds

Does SSD make any noticeable difference to game performance or is it just about getting faster boot time?

Loading times are going to be faster, nothing else. You have to think like this: The system will access faster to the data store in the storage drive, but running the software will be almost the same. But for example there are games taht are always reading from the storage drive, there you probably will see a difference. In other games it will be the same.

And sd helps to open your normal stuff faster

Nothing runs battlegrounds at decent settings!

This is the definition of 'Truth'. From my experience with that game it is very CPU heavy and the CPU in this is quite good so its probably playable ish.

Seems fine to me. I went with an Alienware in the end and is running it on high/ultra settings with frame rates of at least 60.

I have just tried it on my omen, they may have optimised it cause it ran at 55 average on medium preset and 90 on very low, so in answer to peoples question yes its playable on this laptop as is overwatch on high at 60 frames (no ssd) i have videos but unfortunatly frame rate isnt showing on them :disappointed:

More than happy with this laptop.

Side note for anyone who buys this. some games overwatch definatly maybe all will only run at 30 frames if the charger is not connected. you need to turn all power save modes off and high performance to fix this issue, as soon as you are plugged in however it will fly up to what it should be

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So I bought the Dell Inspiron 7000 on Prime Day for £100 more, but it's still sitting in its box- wondering whether I should return it and get this or not?

Anyone know?

The Dell has a 4GB 1050 over this one's 2GB and an SSD instead, but I gather the screen's garbage? No awesome warranty either.

I dunno, the indecision is killing me but I've not got the cash to afford anything better.

Read my posts, i had that dell and ended up retuning it. The dell's screen is really bad and it's also heavier. Now I have this hp omen and I'm super happy with it

I had problems with mine ended up returning serious frame drops on call of duty mw did try the performance modes would run at 60fps then drop as low as 10fps then back up again.Not sure what was wrong gave up in the end the laptop wouldn't even shut down properly power light stayed on not sure if I just had a bad one but great little laptop for gaming if it works the way it should.

oos

Finally picked mine up and having a play around with it at the moment.
Very minor grumble but Im finding the lack of NUM LOCK LED is somewhat annoying! How can you tell if its on without typing first to see?! :smile:

What do you think of it, is the screen bright enough?.
Played any games on it yet?

Cheers

Just thought i'd chuck my two cents in. Have had this laptop for a week now. Really cannot fault it at all.
• Keyboard is great to type with once you get used to it
• Screen is crisp and clear, no problems here
• It's very quick from what I have tested, I won't even bother upgrading to SSD or more RAM just yet, I'll wait around 2 years
• After looking around for similar specs for the price (which I always do even after purchasing) at this price it really was a steal.

Happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.

Edit- Looks like the deal may have expired :disappointed:

^^^ THIS.Surprised how well it runs things

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_ePcmB83vY1Nkp5Vk5FcGRPclE

Me failing at overwatch as a demo (no fps shown but got between 55 - 70) if the link works

can someone help with ssd? I was thinking about this one
Thanks

For anyone thats put an M.2 SSD in to this, is there a screw on the motherboard to fix it or do you have to buy one when buying an SSD?

Also, this laptop doesnt have Right Control key! Umm, was gonna play Brothers but this key is used as a main control function and I cant see how to map it to another key. Hmm

That will work.

You will need to get a screw.

No it doesn't

Thank you, bought it already will install tonight.

Did you get a screw for it too? If so, where did you get it from?

No I didn't, should I bother? I'm sure ssd will sit tight in the socket but might be wrong so would be good to know where to get a screw from.

You should use a screw. I took one from an old laptop I was throwing away. But you could use one of the case screws instead and just replace that screw later.

ok, so I have used screw, one of the motherboard screws, now having a problem with booting from ssd there is no advanced settings in bios so not sure how to do it.

I havent done it myself yet, but think there are some youtube videos where people have done it that might help with BIOS etc. Let us know how you get on, good luck! :smiley:

Mine seems to have backlight bleed in the bottom right corner of the screen. if i press the bezel near the corner the bleed stops but comes back after releasing it. It was the last one instore that i bought so may have to put up with it.
Turning the backlight down to around 70% helps a little.
Has anyone else noticed backlight bleed especially when used in a dark room.

I've been using mine for a few weeks now and so far am very happy, haven't played any brand new games but have been playing a lot of Subnautica and Witcher 3 and it's handling it nicely. Gets a bit warm and noisy but nothing beyond what you'd realistically expect.

Would any m.2 drive work in this laptop
I have been looking at this one, Liteon CX2-8B256
Any help would be appreciated

I was trying to clone partition using samsung data migration and recover windows using hp assistant unsuccessful both methods. I'm giving up, just don't know how to make my ssd as a system disk. Any help would be appreciated.

All working now, used samsung data migration :smiley:

it will be fine, but bit slower than samsung 960 evo

I only paid £45 for it from CEX, comes with 2 year warranty as well

I am thinking of upgrading the ram to 16gb, would I notice a difference between 2133 ddr4 Vs 2400 ddr4.
The ram is made by Crucial so it's a decent make