Hive Heating and Hot Water with installation, lowest price I've ever seen it.
For those like me needing 2 zones, I'd recommend ordering the multi-zone at the same time, BG will install both in the same visit for the £156 price you paid on your primary stat.
With that said, the stats are wireless so if you're comfortable you could remove the second zone Stat yourself (consult a qualified person), turn off your RCD/Fuses, remove Stat, tape wiring and screw Hive mount over the top. Not advocating this and as above I'd order both on the deal price to be fitted by a professional, but it's not difficult as a DIYER.
Motion Sensors v2 - £17.99 Smart hub - £40.49 Smart Plug v2 - £24.29 Active Light White - £11.24 Active Light Tuneable White - £17.99 Active Light Colour - £25.19 Multizone - £62.99
These prices are lower than black friday, so a good deal.
£103 self install not bad. Personally think toolstation deal for v1 for £60 is better, as there's no real advantage having newer thermostat. If someone insists on the newer thermostat this is a great deal.
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blackflash_uk_uk
11 Jul 17#1
Not allowing you to purchase sensors or plug only
The_Hoff
11 Jul 17#2
Great mod work, just delete the reply I made and leave the guy wondering, bravo!
You can buy any singular item, I just tested it. The deal link is just for the thermostat.
Derek_Duval
11 Jul 173#3
£103 self install not bad. Personally think toolstation deal for v1 for £60 is better, as there's no real advantage having newer thermostat. If someone insists on the newer thermostat this is a great deal.
The_Hoff to Derek_Duval
11 Jul 17#8
If like me you have a multi-zoned heating system (upstairs & downstairs) you need V2, the deal for the V1 is good, but makes no sense if you have more comprehensive plumbing - greater efficiency.
jordan210
11 Jul 17#4
Do British gas engineers still charge £150 when doing a vist for this ?
The_Hoff to jordan210
11 Jul 17#7
As per the title, £156 includes installation. Is this not clear from the title? Not being rude, just want to make sure people know what they're getting.
paulday564
11 Jul 17#5
Does anyone know if the hub is included with the hive or if you need to buy it separately?
The_Hoff to paulday564
11 Jul 171#6
The hub is included with this price, along with anything else you need.
Source: I'm a Hive user.
kimrafferty
11 Jul 171#9
What's the difference between the hive and the nest? Why?
agneepath to kimrafferty
11 Jul 172#10
Nest is better, Hive is cheaper!
jordan210
11 Jul 17#11
What I was asking, was British has used to offer hive for £150 installed if they happened to be at your house for a vist. Was asking if they still do this. Was probably my badly worded question
TygerTyger
11 Jul 17#12
this or the Nest 3rd Gen for £139 ?.... no installation included though on that ....
are both Hive 2 and Nest 3 pretty much on par feature set wise?
The_Hoff to TygerTyger
11 Jul 17#16
Absolutely, given the ability to multi zone cheaply and the install inclusion this IMO is a much better deal.
Feature wise, they're almost identical now. Hive works typically via app control, or via timer, though obviously you can also run it using geo-location of your phone - turn on/off when I'm a mile away etc.
We used it all last winter and it didn't skip a beat, coupled with IFTTT and the Hive active lights I have in place it's a nice ecosystem.
hifihero
11 Jul 17#13
I was only messing about with these the other day in John Lewis and tempted but you say a Nest is better,why?
If the build quality is anything to go on the nest felt better but i guess that's not everything.
The_Hoff
11 Jul 171#14
I wouldn't say Nest is better, or that Hive is better. 90% of their functionality is identical, the remaining 10% is a different implementation of a similar nature, which one suits you is down to your lifestyle and how routine your life is.
The_Hoff
11 Jul 17#15
So, to my understanding this was purely a chance deal depending on discretion on the engineers behalf and that they had the stock in their van. It wasn't a given.
The_Hoff
11 Jul 172#17
RE Nest vs Hive debate one of my requirements was the power aspects.
Hive = wireless stats, no power needed. They'll run off 4x AA battery for well over a year.
Nest = it needs to be wired to your wall ideally via the low powered lines from your heating system. I'm not sure how this works with multi-zoned systems.
Certainly from a power perspective Hive is more versatile.
prash_2k
11 Jul 171#18
If you buy give hot water and heating. Phone give and say you've switched to combi boiler.
They will switch the receiver for free
teerex
11 Jul 17#19
Good price, not sure I need it though
jordan210
11 Jul 17#20
Got a boiler service tomorrow so will oder from amazon but ask anyway. Will have to get with install as id only brake something
Need multi zone like you. whats a pain as extra ££
TygerTyger
11 Jul 17#21
Umm can't see the deal now... Expired?
The_Hoff to TygerTyger
11 Jul 17#24
Deal is back
richcousins
11 Jul 17#22
So its now £213 and not £150 wtf!!! I was just about to order one. Thats crap
The_Hoff to richcousins
11 Jul 17#25
It's back
sinxa
11 Jul 17#23
Woop woop, I purchased this a few months back with no installation for £133, just rep purchased and taking the other back :smiley:
The_Hoff
11 Jul 17#26
I reckon they'll charge you £99 for the second zone. Worth asking.
TygerTyger
11 Jul 17#27
Thanks Hoffmeister!
Bagged it!
Delivery in 2 weeks so will now do some retrospective research
The_Hoff to TygerTyger
11 Jul 17#28
No worries.
To be honest the system is so simple you'll learn it in 10 minutes.
Maybe go and buy some active lights, I switched from LIFX to them and rate them. They integrate nicely with Echo too.
jordan210
11 Jul 171#29
Ordered both from amazon so will get them to install all on one day
bigup
11 Jul 17#30
just grabbed this, was weighing up the Vs Nest but with installation included think this wins
would of been nice if Nest did fire alarm but hey ho.
i assume you need to wait for the Hive to be delivered and used the code included to book the engineer?
The_Hoff to bigup
11 Jul 171#39
Yes, arrange installation using the details enclosed.
ministrymason
11 Jul 17#31
Do I need the hot water part with having a combi boiler?
bigup to ministrymason
11 Jul 17#32
i was going to ask this but its only option that shows under prime day with installation.
i ordered with the water heating even though i have a combi boiler .
catinthehat to ministrymason
11 Jul 17#38
No, you only need the 'Heating' option if you have a combi.
FrostbiteXIII
11 Jul 17#33
Stupid question, but whats the relationship between Amazon Echo Dot and Amazon Alexa?
Are they 2 distinct things, or does the Echo Dot use Alexa?!
bigup to FrostbiteXIII
11 Jul 17#34
essentially the same thing
The Dot is the small Echo which has no speaker so you need to use your own speakers
the full blown Amazon Echo is the one with built in speaker (taller in size)
Alexa is the name you call out so it listens to you.
stuartw
11 Jul 17#35
Hi being a little slow here if I buy the main link
"Hive Active Heating and Hot Water with Professional Installation, Works with Amazon Alexa"
Does this give me multizone, or is there an additional thermostat I need to buy?
The two links open up in what I presume are mobile links and have no photos, colours, or drop downs.
THanks
bigup
11 Jul 171#36
you need to add the multi zone thermostat on top - £62.99 with prime day sale
delusion
11 Jul 171#37
A dot has speakers, just not as good. Fine if you only need it for voice commands or don't mind listening to music at low quality / volumes.
bigup
11 Jul 17#40
looks like the Heating only with installation isn't a a deal on prime day (only self install)
can you still use the Hive Heating and Water even though you have a combi? i guess just don't plug in the Water part of it?
ministrymason
11 Jul 17#41
Am I better with nest if I don't need hot water. Or are they still both the same
stuartw
11 Jul 172#42
Thanks, the Nest has been sent back and I'm all hive, multizone, plug and sensor :smiley:
(annoyingly I have the hub from my old house, as they are tied to your account)
The_Hoff
11 Jul 17#43
Both the same.
catinthehat
11 Jul 171#44
That's right, you can still get the 'heater and water' one if you wanted the installation. They'll just not fit the water bit.
bigup
11 Jul 17#45
this the same as the other sensors, ie they are tied to your account?
The_Hoff
11 Jul 171#46
There is no 'bit' per se, it's just an additional cable that is terminated from your hot water control to the boiler module.
Same hardware whatever configuration you go for with obvious addition for multizone.
The_Hoff
11 Jul 171#47
No. They're not tied.
RE control box, I think they can be reset, in the case of moving house etc. There was an FAQ detailing this I thought.
stuartw
11 Jul 171#48
It's only the Hub that is tied to your account, as this is the central part in your home system that talks to Hive's servers and then your apps.
I have read of Hive re-setting hub accounts, but I have read about people buying a new hub when they move into a hive home.
Everything else is Ok, can be taken with you or bought/sold on ebay
The_Hoff
11 Jul 17#49
No, not tied.
The_Hoff
11 Jul 17#50
Regarding moving home and old equipment, here's the guidance:
Does the Hub have limit of devices/sensors it can be connected too?
The_Hoff
11 Jul 171#52
Not one you should be concerned about. I have 25~
paulday564
11 Jul 171#53
Thanks for that, i had ordered the hub too but managed to cancel it before despatch. Cheers!
bigup
11 Jul 171#54
Thanks again for the info!
Any tips for us new hive users :smiley:
John.M
11 Jul 17#55
Too simplistic an answer. There are plenty of comparison reports online. Most of the functionality is the same and both work well. I would say for most people both systems will work well so price may be the main consideration. Both control heating and hot water (if required) plus other devices such s lights, plugs, cameras, motion sensors etc. Both work with Amazon Echo. Nest works with Home and I believe will soon work with Hive.
The_Hoff
11 Jul 171#56
Not really mate, it's all very intuitive.
Ahead of receiving it, you can download the app and create an account (the same can be done on hivehome site) and learn a little about it.
Have a play with IFTTT if you've not looked at it, you can start assessing how you can automate things and other tech you might need.
ministrymason
11 Jul 17#57
Should I buy a new one for £105 or Amazon warehouse. Used like new for £84. I assume Amazon warehouse are just open box
The_Hoff to ministrymason
11 Jul 17#59
Always buy new, I can almost guarantee the BG Install voucher will have been redeemed and then returned to Amazon (without their knowledge). I've even seen people on here advocating this...
mission701
11 Jul 172#58
Awesome find - thank you. I need a multi-zone system so Hive works out a lot cheaper (with Nest you have to buy the main thermostat package twice if you have 2 zones). I also have basic wireless thermostats so nothing on the wall to replace - for Nest I would have had to plug in the thermostat to the mains which deminishes the aesthetic somewhat in addition to the cost for the stand, whereas with Hive I can put them anywhere as they're battery. Combined with saving an £89 install fee for Nest where I live, this is a great find!
ministrymason
11 Jul 17#60
I am thinking of fitting it myself. So for £84 it's cheap.
The_Hoff
11 Jul 17#61
If you're capable and all of the pieces you need are there, go ahead.
I'd perhaps order a new unit as a backup, by the time you discover the warehouse item is duff you'll have missed the boat on this offer. They're doing Hive minus installation for £104 (I think it was).
jase.2
11 Jul 17#62
Has the multizone at £62 gone? All I can see is £99 via maplin in marketplace
cloudbaby
11 Jul 17#63
Apparently they were allowed to do this until very recently (according to the British Gas man who came to fix my boiler) but BG have stopped this now and they have to charge the standard price.
lam36
11 Jul 17#64
I was just about to buy this and it has gone! Even with link I can only get self install for £179 now. With installation is full price of £249 :-(
The_Hoff to lam36
11 Jul 17#65
Because it has gone out of stock direct from Amazon. But it did the same earlier today and then came back on. So monitor it until midnight if your keen, would be my advice.
lam36
11 Jul 17#66
I did wonder if it was worth staying up to check until then as I saw the comments about it going up earlier. Thanks
lam36
11 Jul 17#67
Had it at the £156 price again then for a split second but it wouldn't add to basket.Now showing as £214
bigup
16 Jul 17#68
Mine arrived yesterday and booked engineer visit , Shame they don't do Saturdays.
jordan210
16 Jul 17#69
Had a boiler service the other day and guy checked his onsite prices was £300 for multizone. He said could not believe how cheap amazons price was.
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Opening post
For those like me needing 2 zones, I'd recommend ordering the multi-zone at the same time, BG will install both in the same visit for the £156 price you paid on your primary stat.
With that said, the stats are wireless so if you're comfortable you could remove the second zone Stat yourself (consult a qualified person), turn off your RCD/Fuses, remove Stat, tape wiring and screw Hive mount over the top. Not advocating this and as above I'd order both on the deal price to be fitted by a professional, but it's not difficult as a DIYER.
Motion Sensors v2 - £17.99
Smart hub - £40.49
Smart Plug v2 - £24.29
Active Light White - £11.24
Active Light Tuneable White - £17.99
Active Light Colour - £25.19
Multizone - £62.99
These prices are lower than black friday, so a good deal.
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You can buy any singular item, I just tested it. The deal link is just for the thermostat.
Source: I'm a Hive user.
are both Hive 2 and Nest 3 pretty much on par feature set wise?
Feature wise, they're almost identical now. Hive works typically via app control, or via timer, though obviously you can also run it using geo-location of your phone - turn on/off when I'm a mile away etc.
We used it all last winter and it didn't skip a beat, coupled with IFTTT and the Hive active lights I have in place it's a nice ecosystem.
If the build quality is anything to go on the nest felt better but i guess that's not everything.
Hive = wireless stats, no power needed. They'll run off 4x AA battery for well over a year.
Nest = it needs to be wired to your wall ideally via the low powered lines from your heating system. I'm not sure how this works with multi-zoned systems.
Certainly from a power perspective Hive is more versatile.
They will switch the receiver for free
Need multi zone like you. whats a pain as extra ££
Bagged it!
Delivery in 2 weeks so will now do some retrospective research
To be honest the system is so simple you'll learn it in 10 minutes.
Maybe go and buy some active lights, I switched from LIFX to them and rate them. They integrate nicely with Echo too.
would of been nice if Nest did fire alarm but hey ho.
i assume you need to wait for the Hive to be delivered and used the code included to book the engineer?
i ordered with the water heating even though i have a combi boiler .
Are they 2 distinct things, or does the Echo Dot use Alexa?!
The Dot is the small Echo which has no speaker so you need to use your own speakers
the full blown Amazon Echo is the one with built in speaker (taller in size)
Alexa is the name you call out so it listens to you.
"Hive Active Heating and Hot Water with Professional Installation, Works with Amazon Alexa"
Does this give me multizone, or is there an additional thermostat I need to buy?
The two links open up in what I presume are mobile links and have no photos, colours, or drop downs.
THanks
can you still use the Hive Heating and Water even though you have a combi? i guess just don't plug in the Water part of it?
(annoyingly I have the hub from my old house, as they are tied to your account)
Same hardware whatever configuration you go for with obvious addition for multizone.
RE control box, I think they can be reset, in the case of moving house etc. There was an FAQ detailing this I thought.
I have read of Hive re-setting hub accounts, but I have read about people buying a new hub when they move into a hive home.
Everything else is Ok, can be taken with you or bought/sold on ebay
https://www.hivehome.com/support/Featured/Featured_Articles/If-I-buy-Hive-and-then-move-home-what-should-I-do-new
Does the Hub have limit of devices/sensors it can be connected too?
Any tips for us new hive users :smiley:
Ahead of receiving it, you can download the app and create an account (the same can be done on hivehome site) and learn a little about it.
Have a play with IFTTT if you've not looked at it, you can start assessing how you can automate things and other tech you might need.
I'd perhaps order a new unit as a backup, by the time you discover the warehouse item is duff you'll have missed the boat on this offer. They're doing Hive minus installation for £104 (I think it was).