Picked up this multi-tool and accessories which went on sale at Lidl today. It's cordless - 1500mAh 12v li-ion battery and has a fast charger. Comes in hard case and diamond sawblade, plunge sawblade, sanding plate with 3 wood and 3 metal sanding sheets. The 3 year warranty made it a no brained for me. Submitting this deal for those also interested in a multi purpose small tool.
Good deal but the aldi one was better had a 2000mah battery for the same price. I read the aldi 3 year warranty small print wasn't worth paper was printed on actual warranty 2 month in store 6 month with factory and 3 years covers non movable parts what ever that means.
androidavis to fishleg003
22 Jun 171#2
Hi fishleg003, interesting and thanks for letting me know.
In general my advice is to ignore the manufacturers warranty at if it is troubling or troublesome, and deal with the retailer instead. My experience with returns when I needed to at lidl has been excellent service. In general, when a retailer says to me that after the first year you need to refer to the manufacturers warranty directly I just say I don't want to do that and want to deal with the retailer as per our consumer rights here. Looking at Parkside manual for this device, the manufacturer Kompernass even state their 3 year warranty does not in any way restrict the statutory rights we enjoy here with the retailer.
Regarding the battery - I went for this one over the Aldi one because I am not keen on its 3-5hour charger. This lidl offers me a quick charger. And seeing as this product is for smaller jobs that doesn't require a makita or a 240v corded device, that's ok with me.
dejavous
23 Jun 171#3
PSA: tools rated as 12v use the exact same batteries as those rated 10.8v, it's simply a matter of deciding the time and method to measure the voltage of the cells. Usually it was the mean average voltage of the cell that determined the rated voltage but this wasn't maximising the marketing crapola so alternative 'measures' are now determining what's rated on the tin. These 12v batteries contain 3 cells, each with a nominal voltage of 3.6v-3.8v. Max voltage after charging can be as high as 4.2v-4.4v per cell and near the end drops to about 3.0v so when in use, this tool will be anywhere from 9v-13v. It sure as hell won't be 12v for long after you start using it after a full charge.
Even the bigger brands are starting to follow this practice, Bosch are rebranding all their 10.8v tools to 12v because it looks bigger and obviously 12 is bigger than 10.8 so must be better. The batteries and tools will remain absolutely identical apart from the labelling.
I have a 10.8v multitool and whilst it's useful for odd jobs, it lacks oomph. From a poster instore it looks like there is a 20v version of the multitool that works with their existing 20v range on the way. Based on the price of the impact driver, if you already have one of their 20v tools it might be worth waiting a few weeks for that to hit the stores. Also similar to the 10.8/12 scenario above, the 20v batteries are really just the equivalent of 18v that you see in Makita, Ryobi etc.
androidavis
23 Jun 17#4
I think I will heed your advice.
den169
23 Jun 17#5
Warranty on this after 12 month is useless.I bought a wired one last year never used till a couple of months back 2 months out of the Lidl 12 month no quibble warranty,The switch jammed on i contacted Lidl who gave my details to the manufacturer,Guess what they emailed me and said as the switch is a moving part its wear and tear and not covered,But we can sell you the new part for £9.Its not wear and tear its a known fault iv'e seen others mention this switch.From now on any tools i buy from Lidl will be taken back for a full refund within there 12 month no quibble warranty even if there in perfect working order.
androidavis to den169
23 Jun 17#6
Hi den169, I think lidl are quite good on faulty goods. Shame about what happened in your experience. In another thread earlier this year one member said their switch on the multi tool had failed and even though it was after 12 months Aldi just just refunded him.
My point earlier however was that it doesn't matter how long the manufacturers warranty is or that they provide no warranty whatsoever, or some parts like the switch (which is pretty essential, integral, non-serviceable or replaceable by the customer!) as you can turn up at lidl a couple of years later with a fault and if they say to deal with the manufacturer you can say you have decided to only deal with the retailer as is your consumer rights. Then they have to put it right. You have far more warranty/protection with the retailer than what the manufacturer may have printed in the manual
den169
23 Jun 172#7
Yes i'm very annoyed it was only last weekend i recieved there email,I'm not letting it go at that iv'e emailed the CEO of Lidl about this,I think the german company expecting someone to strip down and repair an electrical item with a spare part is just not on.It aint over yet.
pibpob
23 Jun 17#8
Funny how they never state the wattage of these battery tools. While wattage isn't the most reliable indicator, it'll give you some idea how they compare with mains ones.
jimeny
24 Jun 17#9
I've just bought this, seems good apart from there being a constant beep coming from the unit as it's turned on. Does this happen to anyone else's unit? Thanks
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The 3 year warranty made it a no brained for me.
Submitting this deal for those also interested in a multi purpose small tool.
Website info:
Versatile tool for sawing, cutting, scraping and sanding
12V Li-ion battery (1,500mAh)
3 stage battery status indicator
Tool free accessory exchange
Adjustable vibration rate / soft start
LED workpiece light
Includes: HCS plunge saw blade, Diamond saw blade, Scraper, Delta sanding plate & 6 sanding sheets
No-load rotation speed (rpm): 5,000 - 19,000
Oscillation angle: 3.2˚
Charging time (mins): 60
10 comments
In general my advice is to ignore the manufacturers warranty at if it is troubling or troublesome, and deal with the retailer instead. My experience with returns when I needed to at lidl has been excellent service. In general, when a retailer says to me that after the first year you need to refer to the manufacturers warranty directly I just say I don't want to do that and want to deal with the retailer as per our consumer rights here. Looking at Parkside manual for this device, the manufacturer Kompernass even state their 3 year warranty does not in any way restrict the statutory rights we enjoy here with the retailer.
Regarding the battery - I went for this one over the Aldi one because I am not keen on its 3-5hour charger. This lidl offers me a quick charger. And seeing as this product is for smaller jobs that doesn't require a makita or a 240v corded device, that's ok with me.
Even the bigger brands are starting to follow this practice, Bosch are rebranding all their 10.8v tools to 12v because it looks bigger and obviously 12 is bigger than 10.8 so must be better. The batteries and tools will remain absolutely identical apart from the labelling.
I have a 10.8v multitool and whilst it's useful for odd jobs, it lacks oomph. From a poster instore it looks like there is a 20v version of the multitool that works with their existing 20v range on the way. Based on the price of the impact driver, if you already have one of their 20v tools it might be worth waiting a few weeks for that to hit the stores. Also similar to the 10.8/12 scenario above, the 20v batteries are really just the equivalent of 18v that you see in Makita, Ryobi etc.
My point earlier however was that it doesn't matter how long the manufacturers warranty is or that they provide no warranty whatsoever, or some parts like the switch (which is pretty essential, integral, non-serviceable or replaceable by the customer!) as you can turn up at lidl a couple of years later with a fault and if they say to deal with the manufacturer you can say you have decided to only deal with the retailer as is your consumer rights. Then they have to put it right. You have far more warranty/protection with the retailer than what the manufacturer may have printed in the manual