why be negative?? if people need assistance in losing weight slimming world is great. not everyone has the will power to do it alone and slimming world is a much healthier alternative to some other pill or shake related quick fixes! If its not for you then lucky you, but no need to dismiss it and put off people it could actually help them.

Unfortunately ritchie your judgment is quite clouded. I'm confused for a start why you would comment on a deal you've got no interest in at all and not offer anything to back your claims up. Personally I used to go to the gym a lot when I was younger but I've never had a decent diet. By decent I don't mean eating constant protein and shakes. Now I'm older and work longer and longer hours, I've found slimming world a breath of fresh air as it fits in around my hectic life. I now have a plan to follow and have never felt healthier, after losing a stone in 5 weeks. It looks like you rate yourself as per your profile picture, however I've met a lot of people who lack any confidence. You're missing a major point and that is the group sessions provide people with the motivation and belief that they can carry on. Compared to a fitness trainer in a gym that help is very cheap. So try not to be so narrow minded, everyone is different with their own outlooks and what works for you might not work for me. For those who do the program you should be proud regardless of what others say. For those thinking of joining, I can really recommend it. Don't knock anything or comment until you've tried something!

Helpful, thanks for your contribution

People actually do this stuff? lol

I don't ever vote cold on stuff, but people should never be paying to join a weight loss thing, ever.

You mentioned "POINTS" but you're thinking of Weight Watchers. I'm not on a diet I'm on a food optimising program. This is working for me, going weight lifting with my mate who's won countless shows, didn't. It's obvious you can do it for free, what else is the Internet for, we're not all stupid here, but nothing else personally worked for me except SW. I don't care paying £200/yr for something that works for me. Thanks for your reply though :smiley:

If anyone just wants the pack to follow I think it's £25 on ebay

it can take a bit of getting your head around, but its worth it! you can post any questions on that forum, and theres a few facebook groups kicking about too :smiley:

Thanks...maybe we should start a thread. I have of about the keto but when i looked into it I found it a bit complicated but i will have another go.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/
https://www.ketogenicforums.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/

are great places to start :smiley:
You're free to pm me if you want any help/advice :smiley:

Or save the money and follow a ketogenic diet for free . (Down 65lb, off meds, never been healthier)

Yes, you are absolutely right. Lazy people who don't want to exercise, losing weight by changing their diets. It's terrible. They certainly shouldn't be proud of their achievements, even if they've spent a lifetime battling with their weight issues.

I'm bowing out of this discussion with you as you are obviously so ridiculously knowledgeable it borders on arrogance.

1. Being proud of losing weight is not 'ideal' - exercise is beneficial to everyone, and everyone has time to do it. Even though you don't NEED to exercise to lose weight, you should.

2. Everyone is not the same in terms of adherence, absolutely, but in terms of losing weight we are all the same.

3. Paying for weight loss groups/programs that don't teach you a thing, eg, give you a method to follow by eating based off POINTS is ridiculous. Period.

I am quite shocked you wrote that about "not once has exercise figured into their plan" as if thats a good thing, now I understand it more though, lazy people who don't want to exercise will happily spend money on crap like this.

Brilliant, great that worked for you. Even better if it worked for some other people. Shame that 1) you can't help everyone as there's not clones of you across the entire UK and 2) whatever your approach, it isn't going to work for everyone. That's the way of the world. But I'm glad you have a pre-defined idea of what's 'normal' when it comes to, well, anything in life, let alone something as subjective as health and weight loss.

Anyhow, aside from the narky comments detracting from this post, my better half is a few pound away from losing 7 stone in a year by using Slimming World. Not once has exercise figured into their plan, they never go hungry and quite simply changed their diet and stick to it. Attending the weigh-ins simply keeps them on track, but they no longer need the classes. By the way, when you reach target, you no longer pay and you can get tons of Slimming World recipes on the website for nowt (as well as tons of other resources) so no, they're not all about keeping paying for an eternity.

Don't be put off by the narky commenter, it may be the lifestyle change that works for you.

I have coached many people including bodybuilders to win shows. I started by helping normal people (not interested in anything other than losing weight) -- I myself started from being overweight and got into shape by learning, for free, no money spent. All learnt through text on a screen.

Don't get bitter and bitchy because you think paying to lose weight is normal.

Help can be free. Just like I offered.

So come on then, give us all free lessons on how you became an expert on effective weight loss because I'm really intrigued in how much you can teach us all through the medium of text on a screen.

Thanks for the pep talk.

It does work that way, though. Slimmingworld has convinced you to pay money to lose weight, and to keep you there for a long time making you feel reliant on them otherwise you'll fail. It does NOT teach you a damn thing.

I'll teach you for free, if you want, and you won't spend a penny.

why be negative?? if people need assistance in losing weight slimming world is great. not everyone has the will power to do it alone and slimming world is a much healthier alternative to some other pill or shake related quick fixes! If its not for you then lucky you, but no need to dismiss it and put off people it could actually help them.