Dropped 10 pound!! amazing price for this 8 core 16 thread monster.
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zizzles
27 Apr 176#1
It's a great CPU. I just hope that gamers will understand that it is a great gaming processor.
AMD seem not to understand that they will only buy things that are named after at least three predatory creatures, a torture method, and a misspelt version of the word "extreme" .
Voted hot for the post and for AMD's willingness to buck the trend.
PS4 owners: I've checked for you, it won't fit.
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zizzles
27 Apr 176#1
It's a great CPU. I just hope that gamers will understand that it is a great gaming processor.
AMD seem not to understand that they will only buy things that are named after at least three predatory creatures, a torture method, and a misspelt version of the word "extreme" .
Voted hot for the post and for AMD's willingness to buck the trend.
PS4 owners: I've checked for you, it won't fit.
tomwoodhouse
27 Apr 172#2
Phenomenal CPU loving mine since I upgraded from my 6700k - Yes upgraded I strongly stand by the term as gameplay is smoother, and I can stream in high quality without dropping frames. My 6700k dropped frames so I was forced to use the crappy hardware encoder option.
steve_bezerker to tomwoodhouse
27 Apr 17#3
I think it's very unlikely that the Ryzen 7 1700 actually beats out a 6700K. I have a 6700K 4ghz and it is exceptional by every standard. Easily one of the best CPU's on the market (that's in the affordability range). Now I don't doubt that in terms of price v performance the Ryzen is better, but top end the 6700k will win every single day.
All that being said this is still a great price for a good little CPU. Heat added.
VimesUK to tomwoodhouse
27 Apr 17#6
My 6700k is running at 4.6ghz with the 16GB of 3200 DDR4. It performs pretty damn well in most areas, games included.
Whilst it is very nice to see that AMD have launched a CPU which seems credible, unlike their Bulldozer launch, I couldn't see it as being an upgrade worth having over the 6700k for me.
Gorskar to tomwoodhouse
27 Apr 171#8
Hmm I've got a 6700k too, but as I don't stream It's still the best CPU available (along with the 7700k) for gamers like me IMHO. (And even if I were a streamer - I'd use the hardware acceleration)
Given that there's not much price difference, the only cases I could see where a RyZen 1700 processor would be a better choice for a gamer are when you are heavily multitasking whilst gaming, or you are banking on future games becoming much better at using multiple cores. In most cases the higher clock speeds of the Intel win out.
Don't get me wrong - the 1700 is a very good CPU, and unlike previous AMD chips a perfectly valid choice for a gamer - I just don't see it as the best choice in that scenario. In other scenarios, like video encoding it will be the best choice.
vulcanproject
27 Apr 171#4
6700k destroys 1700 in games.
If you are using heavy software streaming though it won't be as fast. But why you wouldn't use hardware accelerated I don't know, it is better quality for the power consumption and resource use. Nvidia Shadowplay is the dogs and GPUs are precisely the kind of hardware you want to use for video encoding, they are massively parallel.
In any case 1700 is an ok CPU for games, not amazing but not bad. I wouldn't buy it specifically for games, but it will do the job.
steve_bezerker
27 Apr 171#5
Yes this is my understanding of it as well - The extra threads mean you get an increase in MINIMUM FPS (marginally) but the 6700K gives you a huge boost to MAXIMUM FPS.
For streamers I think it's still better to use a 6700k and use hardware accelerators, Nvidia have some great little applications themselves for boosting performance whilst streaming. Like I said, this CPU is not considered 'excellent' but it's still going to be a powerhouse when comparing PricevsPerformance.
vulcanproject
27 Apr 17#7
4.6ghz is the average sort of OC for a 6700k without going mad on the voltage. I don't think any Ryzen gets too close in games at least with that sort of speed. For streaming I'm really not into it but I have tried recording and streaming with Shadow play and it's very fast even if you record in 4K.
I also use something called StaxRip for transcoding video. You can use an Nvidia GPU for H.264 or HEVC. It's brutally fast with a good Nvidia GPU compared to any CPU on something like handbrake, even an 8 core is no match for it......
VimesUK
27 Apr 17#9
CPU-Z reports the 4.6Ghz at around 1.25v, or something like that IIRC. So yes pretty low voltage and thus little noise required for cooling.
For video conversion I use Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate which supports the NVidia 1070 GPU for CUDA support and makes it a pretty good setup for my needs.
It is nice tho to see AMD back in the game.
The_Hoff
27 Apr 171#10
If you're recording locally to then edit and upload HW encode is beneficial as you can increase the bitrate enough to offset the lower PQ, it removes the load from your CPU.
If you're streaming (which is the point you're making) using popular tools like OBS then you would always select software encoding to ensure you can provide a good enough feed to your audience, higher quality and higher FPS at the cost of CPU utilisation.
Not sure specifically how the 1700/6700k face off in the SW encoding stakes, but there's good reason to use SW if you're actually streaming games to Twitch/YT.
EDEN188
27 Apr 17#11
built my new server around this CPU, awesome performance.
may want to catch up with some of the latest news from hexus.net and some YouTube videos, there's already talks about certain games have improved between 10-15% just by a BIOS update.
Now idSoft talks about evening better gaming development with the Ryzen is very promising
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AMD seem not to understand that they will only buy things that are named after at least three predatory creatures, a torture method, and a misspelt version of the word "extreme" .
Voted hot for the post and for AMD's willingness to buck the trend.
PS4 owners: I've checked for you, it won't fit.
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AMD seem not to understand that they will only buy things that are named after at least three predatory creatures, a torture method, and a misspelt version of the word "extreme" .
Voted hot for the post and for AMD's willingness to buck the trend.
PS4 owners: I've checked for you, it won't fit.
All that being said this is still a great price for a good little CPU. Heat added.
Whilst it is very nice to see that AMD have launched a CPU which seems credible, unlike their Bulldozer launch, I couldn't see it as being an upgrade worth having over the 6700k for me.
Given that there's not much price difference, the only cases I could see where a RyZen 1700 processor would be a better choice for a gamer are when you are heavily multitasking whilst gaming, or you are banking on future games becoming much better at using multiple cores. In most cases the higher clock speeds of the Intel win out.
Don't get me wrong - the 1700 is a very good CPU, and unlike previous AMD chips a perfectly valid choice for a gamer - I just don't see it as the best choice in that scenario. In other scenarios, like video encoding it will be the best choice.
If you are using heavy software streaming though it won't be as fast. But why you wouldn't use hardware accelerated I don't know, it is better quality for the power consumption and resource use. Nvidia Shadowplay is the dogs and GPUs are precisely the kind of hardware you want to use for video encoding, they are massively parallel.
In any case 1700 is an ok CPU for games, not amazing but not bad. I wouldn't buy it specifically for games, but it will do the job.
For streamers I think it's still better to use a 6700k and use hardware accelerators, Nvidia have some great little applications themselves for boosting performance whilst streaming. Like I said, this CPU is not considered 'excellent' but it's still going to be a powerhouse when comparing PricevsPerformance.
I also use something called StaxRip for transcoding video. You can use an Nvidia GPU for H.264 or HEVC. It's brutally fast with a good Nvidia GPU compared to any CPU on something like handbrake, even an 8 core is no match for it......
For video conversion I use Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate which supports the NVidia 1070 GPU for CUDA support and makes it a pretty good setup for my needs.
It is nice tho to see AMD back in the game.
If you're streaming (which is the point you're making) using popular tools like OBS then you would always select software encoding to ensure you can provide a good enough feed to your audience, higher quality and higher FPS at the cost of CPU utilisation.
Not sure specifically how the 1700/6700k face off in the SW encoding stakes, but there's good reason to use SW if you're actually streaming games to Twitch/YT.
may want to catch up with some of the latest news from hexus.net and some YouTube videos, there's already talks about certain games have improved between 10-15% just by a BIOS update.
Now idSoft talks about evening better gaming development with the Ryzen is very promising