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djdope
9 Apr 17
Brand new xps 12, with s 3 year warranty. Looks like a good alternative to surface pro

Specification:

Processor: Intel Core M3-6Y30 dual core processor (up to 2.2GHz)
Ram: 4Gb DDR3 1600MHz Memory
Storage: 128Gb SSD
Screen: 13.3" FHD LCD touch screen 1920x1080 Corning Gorilla Glass NBT
Comms: Intel 8260 2B 802.11ac 2.4/5Ghz + Bluetooth 4.1
Battery: 30WHr 2-Cell Battery
Optical drive: No Optical Drive
Keyboard: Full sized backlit
Graphics: Intel HD graphics
Webcam: Webcam with dual mic
Audio: Stereo speakers
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64bit
Ports: Thunderbolt 3, HDMI, card reader, Ethernet
Weight: 1.27kg

Model: XPS 12
MPN: 9250
Condition: New
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Gkains to twisted89
9 Apr 17 6 #3
It's 4.5W processor in a fanless casing. In passmark is scores about the same as a Haswell i5-4200U (15W) (this m3-6y30 3056 MT and 1183 ST, while the i5-4200U gets 3259 MT and 1376 ST). For what is essentially a sub-800g table with a keyboard (500g), that's not bad. How useable a 12.5" FHD screen is another question but at least its not the 4K version which seems silly on a 12.5" screen.

EDIT: NBC have this to say about this CPU performance:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-m3-6Y30-SoC.149455.0.html
twisted89
9 Apr 17 5 #2
That's a seriously underpowered cpu, wouldn't recommend this for much besides browsing and word.
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salestion
9 Apr 17 2 #1
Specs seem a little messed up? Title says 12.5" yet the specifications listed on the site say 13.3". Safe to say its 12.5" because of its name, but is that all thats wrong with the listed specs then?
twisted89
9 Apr 17 5 #2
That's a seriously underpowered cpu, wouldn't recommend this for much besides browsing and word.
Gkains to twisted89
9 Apr 17 6 #3
It's 4.5W processor in a fanless casing. In passmark is scores about the same as a Haswell i5-4200U (15W) (this m3-6y30 3056 MT and 1183 ST, while the i5-4200U gets 3259 MT and 1376 ST). For what is essentially a sub-800g table with a keyboard (500g), that's not bad. How useable a 12.5" FHD screen is another question but at least its not the 4K version which seems silly on a 12.5" screen.

EDIT: NBC have this to say about this CPU performance:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-m3-6Y30-SoC.149455.0.html
splender to twisted89
9 Apr 17 2 #15
No problem at all, this CPU is pretty good at 3000 passmark average. Only starts to make a difference compared to a quadcore i7 (8 logical cores) if you were processing large batches. The comment that other bloke said about this CPU is only good for browsing and Office, this statement is true for a passmark of 1000-1200 processor.
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The best aspect of this processor is that it is fanless so it is totally silent.
steve10574
9 Apr 17 #4
I've said for ages like rightmove now put internet speeds, computer makers should list how well this would play FM as standard :smiley:
finbaar to steve10574
9 Apr 17 2 #6
Check the specs, it does not have a FM radio. In fact you are going to struggle to find any laptop with a FM receiver. Why would you want one anyway?
Picard123
9 Apr 17 1 #5
"The real disappointment is the XPS 12's SSD. The 128GB drive recorded a transfer rate of just 82.09 MBps, while the SSDs in the Spectre x2 (149 MBps) and the Surface Pro 4 (318 MBps) were two to four times faster."

"On the Laptop Mag Battery Test (continuous Wi-Fi surfing at 100 nits), the XPS 12 lasted 5 hours and 17 minutes. "


:confused:

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/dell-xps-12-2016
questiontime102
9 Apr 17 #7
I think he is being sarcastic, as the website says 13.3 inch whilst it is 12.5 inch.
belfast324
9 Apr 17 2 #8
Football Manager? Is this serious?
zakkyb
9 Apr 17 2 #9
Think he means Football Manager
M0nk3h
9 Apr 17 #11
So what's everyone's verdict on this? This seems like an excellent price for a well reviewed laptop but I'm just worried about the CPU in this.

Obviously browsing would be fine but how would it cope with say Photoshop or Illustrator? I'm not talking large files.

In general how do these perform?

Sold my iPad to delve into Windows tablets as i loved my little £40 tablet.
amansth to M0nk3h
9 Apr 17 1 #13
my friend has the 4k m5 version and it's quite snappy. i'd say its as good as a surface pro 3 i5 (which handles photoshop fine.)

The gpu isn't snazzy either (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-515.149941.0.html) but it really is a nice ultraportable.
jaydeeuk1
9 Apr 17 #12
That's pretty poor, so more like 4 hours if doing anything intensive. Our xps 13 with a qhd display and i7 will do 9 hours easily, albeit with a 4 cell battery.
amansth
9 Apr 17 1 #14
not sure about the 1080p version, but the m5 4k version has the nicest screen in a laptop i've ever seen. its a very nice little ultraportable. shame the dock doesn't boost battery life.
M0nk3h
9 Apr 17 #16
Great, thanks for the reply. I'm heavily considering this device purely because compared to others, apart from the surface, it looks the best.

Would it be best to wait you think for Kaby lake 2in1 devices? The Galaxy Book has my eye, as does the new Surface line once we get confirmation.

Gah, maybe I'm just better getting a Pixel tablet or similar?

EDIT: Just seen they have a Core m5 and Core m7 versions but the pricing doesn't seem as good?
plewis00
9 Apr 17 #17
As someone who regularly (daily) uses a Core M machine, it's fantastic, it was everything many people were hoping for in terms of Core i performance in Atom-type TDP. The only downfall was the price normally but these have come right down. Yes, it's weak if you are loading it up to max and keeping it at full load as it will throttle down, but 90% of people don't do that and the other 10% probably rate performance over portability and slimness so will go for a conventional laptop or workstation.
lavafire
9 Apr 17 1 #18
4GB Ram? A few chrome tabs will kill it...
zhzahidh1
9 Apr 17 1 #19
Can anyone recommend a decent xps 13 's around £700-800 mark , been searching the outlet store for over a month and cannot find anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
CampGareth to zhzahidh1
10 Apr 17 #27
Check ebay and places like mcscom: http://mcscom.co.uk/product/dell-xps-13-9350-ultrabook-i7-6560u-2-20ghz-8gb-256gb-ssd-13-3-fhd-win-10-1yr-rtb-wty-mln492/

I ended up getting an XPS 13 9350 for £700 through ebay.

Side note I'm considering getting an XPS 12 to use as a replacement for my old dell venue 11 pro (4th gen Y series gets clobbered by 6th gen M series). Combined with a good thunderbolt dock tablets seem like they can be great little workhorses.
cheesemane to zhzahidh1
10 Apr 17 #28
There are some on the outlet for £739+VAT currently (£886.93). Keep an eye on the outlet discount codes that show up from time to time. I picked up one with (I think) a 10% discount code a while back which would put it within your range.

There are no codes for XPS 13 currently, but some may appear.
http://www.dell.com/learn/uk/en/ukdfh1/campaigns/shop-outlet-deals

Personally I'd recommend going for the 9360 i5 version with 1080 panel, as the screen is great, and the battery life and performance are incredible. Definitely the best and most portable notebook I've ever used.

Only downside I've found is the position of the webcam (nostril cam), which is a consequence of the incredibly portable design.

Personally I ruled out the xps 12 due to performance requirements, but others use case may fit it well.
Tequila
9 Apr 17 #20
anything with m3 CPU is best to be avoided.
rubbish, waste of time and money processor.
Mac or Windows doesn't matter..m3 is weakk and sloww.
the portability/from factor/power usage/fan/light user etc argument is irrelevant and non sense...there is m5 and m7..and m5 is significantly better than m3.
steve10574
10 Apr 17 1 #21
Yes I did :smiley:
Aquaslim
10 Apr 17 #22
The real world battery life is very poor so portability is compromised. I was looking at this one earlier this year but decided to go for smaller Dell Latitude 11 5175 (Intel M5, 8GB, 256GB, 11" FHD).
winchman
10 Apr 17 #23
djdope
10 Apr 17 #24
The big advantage with the Dell is the 3 year on site nbd warranty. This on itself would be a £100 upgrade
winchman
10 Apr 17 #25
Exactly. then there is the hassle with importing, Vat and lack of support.
pipogipo
10 Apr 17 #26
If the m5 is anything to go by, the m3 will be a horrible processor. I had a Dell laptop with an m5 and it struggled even with multiple tabs open whilst web browsing and a couple of Office docs open.
asc91
10 Apr 17 #29
Surely better off getting a Surface Pro 3 with i5?
Zaim2012
10 Apr 17 #30
Anyone had to return an item to this company before? I'm tempted to get one of the refurb XPS 12's but in case I'm not happy with the condition or its performance I want to be able to return it, they've come back to me saying "Goods must be returned in original as sent condition."
Traveltab
10 Apr 17 1 #31
Hi,
After some advice if you could spare a minute. I am going travelling and want something portable and easy to use in small spaces e.g. On planes but can also be used for basic laptop functions. I am currently considering either a 2in1 like above or getting a tablet and adding a keyboard.
My main uses will be; watching movies, using the internet and storing photos/videos. I am happy to get an external hard drive to use for most storage but want something that I could connect camera and hard drive to so I can do a photo dump every now and then. Other then that it doesn't need to be overly fast or fancy as I don't use large graphic software etc.

Been searching a while now so any ideas would be appreciated. Budget is £500 max soca bit limiting. Alternatively would look at small sized laptops up to 13"
Picard123
11 Apr 17 #32
Is someone is after a budget alternative (£285), this doesn't look too bad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWzdujsmbxo
sharedknowledge
17 Apr 17 #33
The Hi13 has a much weaker CPU. Is there a model of the XPS with 8GB of RAM for slightly more money?
insideman
29 May 17 #34
OOS now.
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