Could someone explain in layman's terms what the point of a £200+ (including specialised installation) smart thermostat is compared to a manual £20 thermostat? Are you paying 10x the price because it pays for itself in savings over X number of years or is it so you can change the temperature from your sofa instead of having to stand up and walk 10 paces to a wall thermostat?

I agree, it seems that the only benefit is that these thermostats can be operated remotely by say a mobile phone, I'm not sure that there are any other benefits ....... perhaps somebody else would like to comment?

i bought this too after I saw your post. Looks like we were scammed reading the recent feedback. Have you received yours yet?

Have you checked the feedback from the ebay seller, not good !!

Thanks for the link just picked one up for 120 :smiley:

I'm getting quoted £89 or £99 for installs in Wakefield.

It looks fairly easy from the instructions, but I do not have total faith in my ability not to kill myself or screw up the electrics in the house.

I want to have the thermostat on a stand, so it would just be the plate that needs changing around.

I was not entirely sure how it connects to the water tank upstairs....anyone able to explain that to me?

If it's replacing an existing wired thermostat, it should only take around 30 mins to fit and wire up.

Shame that the code isn't working any more, I have plumbers coming to fix a valve so thought I'd get this installed at the same time.
They said it's about 2 hours work, so £70-£100, which seems fairly expensive but the valve was going to be £25 to fit and that would be included.
Decisions decisions!

3 on E-Bay for £130 Free delivery. Just bought one myself.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nest-Smart-App-Controllable-Learning-Thermostat-3rd-Generation-Brand-New-Sealed-/132157833745?hash=item1ec5388211:g:Ro8AAOSw2gxYpNhN

Yes they seemed to have turned off the code for the nest product. The code still works on other items over £100

EDIT: If you add something else over £100 to the order, the code works. You could then take that other item back to the store to get a full refund, thus leaving the £20 discount on your order off of the nest. Might work?

Yeah I've been struggling all day to get the code to work. When I sign up for the b and q card and apply that card at checkout, it makes the cart price £NaN which is weird

Pick this up today using my dad's diamond card.

£176 - £17.60 = £158.40

Then used 2 All4one gift cards which only work in store not online worth £55.

Paid only £103.40. Now I need to google how to install the thing.

Thats a nice idea, thanks. Might just hold off for now though.

Yup, cant find any codes that work...

It seems this code doesn't work for Nest anymore.

Good effort! I'm tempted to try myself but I have an old boiler with an old thermostat on the wall. I googled for hours and now I'm certain it can be done!

I received my Nest this morning from B&Q.

After some considerable googling I managed to wire the heat link into my boiler myself and hard wire in the Nest using the existing thermostat wiring.

Everything seems to be working as expected...

You've just given the flaw in your system right there. You come home to a cold house and have to wait with while it thaws out. These devices allow you to turn on the heating _before_ you get in so it's nice and toasty when you get through the door. Or allow you to turn it off if you (or someone else) forgot to do so. And, like a smart thermostat, you can automate different temperatures during the day / evening /night. 18 degrees is far too warm for us at night - we turn it off and have the windows open - even in winter!

Maplin is £90 installation through their partner TSG.

maplin install think it's £70 or £90 must have existing thermostat

Do you mean turn on Eco mode?

You're in the house and the thermostat in the hall is at 22 degrees. When you're the last person to leave the house you turn it off 20 minutes before you leave (10 degrees). You turn it back when you come back home. At night, first one to bed turns it down to 18 degrees. Hot water: turn off the 'Eco' mode on your Worcester Bosch combi as it saves £20/month in not constantly heating about 600 ml available in the boiler if you don't need pre-heated water.

Obviously, cold from me. I just don't see the sense.

Thats what I was waiting for, I was hoping if it get release it will cause these to drop in price. During Black friday they were priced around £160, all the retailers followed Amazons price, and then put them back up once amazon ran out of stock. They sell about £160 to £180 on ebay and my local plumbers sell them for £180 inc vat

Anyone think the 4th Gen is going to drop some time this year? Maybe this is a stock clear out and JL have also agreed to price match. Lots of competition coming from EcoBee.

Me too. I had previously paid £199 including fitting in my old house, but paid an additional £30 for the stand.

I bought my second one of these in Feb and am still hunting around for a reasonable quote to install it. I've a CH/HW system, in Leicestershire.

Nest Pro install quotes range from £84 to £89 and I've had quotes from local electricians of £90 ex. VAT.

In my old house I paid £50 for installation, which to me is more reasonable.

Have u check the water pressure on your boiler? The water level needs to be around 1.5 - 2.

I fitted one of these myself over the weekend but now have slight problem in that the heating doesn't work and only cold water comes from the hot taps. Anyone shed any light on what problem might be? Not very technical so keep it light lol. Not to fussed at moment as not cold enough for heating and can boil kettle for hot water but will be a problem next winter.

I'm not sure if you can do that. Firstly this code seems to be online only, and diamond card only works in store. Secondly you can't use the diamond card with any other promotions or voucher, It has to be one or the other.

What I need to know is, I have 2 All4one cards worth £55. If this offer is still running on Wednesday can I use the 10% and my 2 gift cards?

Looked into that too. Didn't find an easy way of doing it.

If you have a nationwide debit card, simply nationwide offers have 3% currently off at b&q.....Another 1% for going through Quidco....not a huge amount but every little helps

It should do, but you would probably need two.

We have a thermostat upstairs and downstairs, seems to be on two circuits. 2 year old house. Would this work?

I got a pro nest installed out for £40 off nest website. I had a wireless stat already in and fitted to stand so probably a smaller job than some

It makes it so you don't have to touch it at all, it learns your routine and tracks your phone so it turns it off for you when you leave instead of a timer or you accidentally forgetting to turn it off. You get monthly reports and how much long you have had it on each day, it adjusts to the wether. Great piece of kit and for under £200 it's worth it. Plus it looks class instead of a crap £20 horrible grey plastic junk stuck on your wall that's an eye sore.

You can probably make a Heating Boost with IFTTT, I made a 1 hour and a 2 hour one for my Netatmo.

Read around and it seems it's designed that way to not interfere with the learning part.
Doesn't look like they will be implementing it.

Yet another thing to go wrong - when was the last time a forecast got the temp in your garden correct?

Approx once a fortnight we have to do a reset on the sky box's whenever they have trouble downloading off catchup via homeplugs. What happens when these devices cant get a signal - Do they default to the previous days temps or does everthing just go cold?

And do these work via ethernet cable, or has it got to be wifi?

Gets it from the net.

Me too I'm sure it wouldn't be much for nest/google to change. They was to setup a forum for issues haven't seen anything yet.

Thank you for the response. Can I ask, with regard to the " takes into account outside temp" how does it do this? Is there an external device attached to the system or perhaps it obtains the info across the web from the met office?

I had one in the house I bought and to be honest it was amazing, but not really looked into the cost saving element but will try to help...

The system learns how long your house takes to heat up so on a normal system you program it to come on at the same time every morning for where as you can tell the Nest when it needs to be said temperature and it works out when it needs to come on so potentially comes on at a later time saving money...also It takes into account outside temp so on cold days it comes on earlier, or warmer days comes on later this potential money saver, but also makes sure you are warm.

The app produces a nice report to tell you how long the heating has been used stats on daily, weekly and monthly figures so easy to spot patterns trends or spot if someone has been abusing it in the daytime or weekends etc.

The app allows you to very quickly to change the schedule so if you work shifts etc you can easily stop the heating coming on when your away etc.
The app is great for checking the temp when you are away, so if you have pets etc. Also if you have been out in the cold and are on you way back home spontaneously you can quickly put the heating on so it's warm for your arrival home.

Mine was attached to the wall but guess the ones that are not can be place in the exactly where they need to be I.e not in the hallway. The nest also has like sunlight protection so if the sun light shines on the thermostat then it doesn't get confused where as direct light on a normal thermostat thinks the room is hotter than it actually is.

Anyway hope this rambling helped, sure the website is more helpful though :-)

I agree, it seems that the only benefit is that these thermostats can be operated remotely by say a mobile phone, I'm not sure that there are any other benefits ....... perhaps somebody else would like to comment?

Great price. Been waiting for a deal for months on the 3rd Gen. Ordered on C&C!

Is it worth changing from my Worcester Wave to this?

My electrician has text me to say that it won't be no more than £40 today after asking him to fit me in as soon as he's available. So I think your a bit of a rouge

Thanks. I think it'll probably work out around £400 for 2 fitted so I'll give it a miss.

That's interesting. Didn't know it missed that function out.
Rely on 1 hour heating boosts all the time.

I have the Gen 2 (have used for around 3 years now) and it paid for itself within the first year i'd say.

It is so easy to not be heating an empty house and to adjust to changes in your schedule where you would otherwise not change the thermostat. Also now they've added geo-fencing in the app it really is seamless to have it detect when you are away and when you are coming home again.

Bargain for the price.

Picked mine up today from B&Q. Replaced my existing wireless thermostat in under 30mins that includes drilling tow new holes for heat link box as my previous wireless sender was much bigger.

One thing that threw me for 5mins, it couldn't find heat link wirelessly, as i had not plug the best in to the base (while i wait for stand). It for some reason need to be connected to wall base/plug thing(with spirit level if you are not sure what I'm on about) even though I'm using the power adapter in the box

But surely, Thats exactly what my standard thermostat is doing already??
Room temp drops - Thermostat detects drop & switches on heating until preset temp reattained .
Just cant see the point/advantage in being able to turn the mobile phone into a thermostat - its seems like its just another technological layer added to what was just a simple system - which worked flawlessly (& couldnt be hacked)

For non combi systems Has a silly system where you can boost the hot water (I.e adding 30,1hr etc) but you can't boost the central heating. Which is annoying, of course you can turn up the stat however it will remain at this temperature until the next program.

Yes, if the offer is still running on Wednesday

If I buy this for the discounted price of £156 can I get my 10% over 60 discount as well? Does anyone know? Thanks

There is no subscription cost on Nest or Hive if bought outright. British Gas do have a plan charging monthly for Hive however if you prefer that option.

Haha, where have you plucked this £40 figure from?

I'd charge a minimum of £65 and expect that is constant amongst other decent tradespeople.

£40 might get you a handyman having a go.

Ordered, nice find. Thanks!

These are a good and a doddle to DIY with vids from YouTube:
https://youtu.be/pulXm7ItsFQ
Save yourself some money on installation.

Thanks, been waiting to find this at a decent price. Ordered.:smiley:

I'm really hot on my programmable thermostat and only have heating on when strictly needed - would this really same me a lot of money?!

Is there a monthly subscription for these? I thought I had read that with Hive and Nest.

I'm confused, I think a couple of people may be posting from their phones and autocorrect has kicked in, failing that I'm not keeping up with technical jargon. Voted hot based on the price reduction but I'm so bone idle I can't be bothered to fit one myself, have a wireless thermostat I can keep on the sofa next to me, that will do until breaks.

We have a two zone property with an unvented water cylinder.

If you are in the same boat I would recommend having a nest pro installer fit it for you. He was here for four hours doing all the thermostats and walking us through it all and testing it. If you just have a single thermostat in your house then you only need one and as long as its powered then you can install this yourself pretty easily.

If you do choose to install yourself then remember, take photos of what you have first before you touch it! Our pro installer said half his jobs were people who had bought it and tried it themselves and failed, the majority of which had caused a domestic :stuck_out_tongue:

I've got a 2 zone system for upstairs and downstairs. Can one Nest Thermostat control both of these?
Also can anyone recommend an installer in Lincoln area and cost? Thanks.
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Could someone explain in layman's terms what the point of a £200+ (including specialised installation) smart thermostat is compared to a manual £20 thermostat? Are you paying 10x the price because it pays for itself in savings over X number of years or is it so you can change the temperature from your sofa instead of having to stand up and walk 10 paces to a wall thermostat?

Thanks for heads up OP ...

Wondering if someone can answer me a question though ... I've been put off the likes of Hive etc, as these devices need a separate unit connecting to your Broadband Router (yet another box cluttering up the sideboard) ..

As I understand it, Nest doesn't require this separate unit, as it's WiFi enabled - is that right ?

So I'd have the Nest thermostat on the wall, but what else does it come with ? How does that connect to the wall mounted boiler in the kitchen which has a separate ACL Lifestyle CH / HW programmer there ? Does that get replaced also ?

Hot Water tank is upstairs in the airing cupboard - I'm guessing that also has a unit attached to it ?

Cheers

In London a typical install quote is £100-£120. Discounts for two Nests. I recently had my two installed for £180, but I actually gave the guy a £20 tip because it was such a big job. I have a 2-zone system boiler. It took him 5-hours to install the Nests. He was a Nest accredited specialist installer. System works great. Just be wary of 30-40 min Installation suggestions. It might be possible in some cases but as I said it took our guy 5-hours!

Ive been wanting to get one, anyone had a quote to install?

Wanted a [free] one from Npower but they wouldn't and I didn't want to give them £159...

So I've transferred my supplier and ordered a Nest from B&Q instead! :man:

Got Hive at home but bought for my Mum's house. Cost of fitting is a bottle of whisky for my friend who's an electrician :smiley:

Tado system works really well. They do a rent to buy option as well so you can try it first.

good price, very easy to install, the heat link just replaces your time switch, but be aware if your heat switch is in a visible place then it is difficult to get a neat install and hide the wires.

Cracking price, I paid £199 (with a free stand) from Screwfix about a month ago

As others have said, it's the cost of fitting that puts me off

There's so many to choose from, I really like the Netatmo. You can do fancy things like GeoLocation with IFTTT but I just set up a schedule and then override it when I need to.

In the end it was down to Netatmo or Tado for me, glad I went Netatmo though.

Lot of money but its an amazing product, glad I got one instead of the Hive

Thank you for your help,looks perfect.New to this, thought you could only use hive or nest.This looks cheaper and I am sure will do the job. :smiley:

There's some great videos on YouTube that talk you through the installation process (make sure you view the UK ones as the American Nest has different terminations). Just be careful not to stick 240v down the control unit as it will fry it

Tado system works really well. They do a rent to buy option as well so you can try it first.

Hi, would this be better than a hive, we have just had a ideal logic combi boiler fitted? This looks a good price.

Hive is currently £199 fitted (so £43 installed) compared to this.

Hate Hive's new online dashboard mind

I've had installation quotes from £60-£100 in Yorkshire. This is what puts me off.

Thanks Chap, i might have a go myself first... and if i fail get someone else in!

does it work with system boiler with hot water invented tank?

Nice one OP. I ordered from amazon earlier for £179 but just cancelled and done C&C from B&Q for £156

Good price
Have installed 2 and easy to use and program (programed it from phone)

Great price. Got mine from npower for £159.