You probably have IESnare installed, without you even realising. In fact, virtually everyone who has visited / used a major online bookies is probably being silently tracked by IESnare.

Read this article: https://www.geegeez.co.uk/iesnare-how-bookmakers-are-spying-on-you-from-your-own-computer/

It explains how to check, and how to remove it.

HTH :wink:

Link: bet365 promotion

So whats the deal? the link takes you to the home page!

Link: bet365 promotion

Thanks for that.

Aghhh just remembered, BET365 suck... they are one of only a few that require you to send them personal documentation to confirm identity/age etc.... I refuse to do this considering the other big boys dont require it!

always a winner :smiley:

Over 0.5 Goals initial... Then reach for the clouds in play :wink:

this risk free deal finally getting the heat it deserves

Thanks. Always keep my eye on these, usually just do the win/lose/draw 50/15/50 for Leicester resulting in breakeven/small profit/large profit so interested to know any better markets

Bet365 are feeling generous this week, the national offer and now this. Heat

When one team is a heavy favourite, as Atletico are, it's always difficult to get a decent profit so i think a lot of the time it's a case of either small or huge and no real in-between.

If you want to secure a minimum of a tenner profit, i think your best bet will be on Leicester to score in the 1st half.

"No" is currently 2/9 which will return £61.11 and "Yes" is 3/1 which will return £200 so do "No" as your pre-match and "Yes" as your in-play.

Minimum £11.11 profit, maximum £100.

Bear in mind that 365's T's & C's do have a clause preventing "guaranteeing profit" in this instance, but they rarely enforce it.

You can lay off a £50 bet with someone else to stay within them if you really want to play it safe though.

I did £150 on Madrid, £50 in play on the draw and £15 with another bookie on Leicester
home or away win guarantees £30 profit. Draw is currently £60 profit

It was the abusing the guaranteed profit clause that I was wary of. I thought £50 on Atletico at 3/10 (returns £65 + £50 free bet stake), risk free £50 bet on the draw at 9/2 ( returns £275 ) and £5 on Leicester at 12/1(888sport) ( returns £65 + £50 free bet stake ). Total outlay is £105 with returns of £115, £275 and £115.

That's a good selection actually. I have heard of them enforcing the clause here and there but not always though, so I guess it's however you feel about taking a chance. But you've worked a decent minimum profit there so good stuff :smiley:

nseaman's is good as well. It all comes down to what you actually think will happen in the match. The likely scenario is a home win with an outside chance of a draw. My painkillers are making my head fuzzy, but I think I've found another option where the returns are £0, £50 and £360, so it's down to whether I settle for £0 with a good upside, £10 with a decent upside or £30 with a much lower upside.

Last time I got a nice in game win from Bayern-Arsenal, need to figure out a good second bookmaker for back up.

...or the third possibility that you should at least mention.

Indeed. And we are talking Leicester here, so they could end up being absolutely pounded. Remember, it's a HUKD tradition that many people will stuff this offer up and end up out of pocket :wink:

For some reason I'm not allowed promotions even though I always covered my bets with another book maker.

Isn't both teams to score 1st half yes/no usually a good one to use for this?

Probably a silly question, but how can you work things out now if you don't know what the odds will be once it goes in-play. Would like to do this, but what happens if the odds for a draw drop dramatically once it goes in-play. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Great deal, thanks for the heads up OP.

Thanks for the heads up op.

I usually go for home or away win as my pre match bet.... Currently £8.33 return.

Then a draw for my in play bet.... Currently £75 return.

But tempted by the Leicester to score in first half option as mentioned above.

Love a free money offer. Our group of friends made a combined £2000+ from the last one. Heat!!

first bets that stick out for me are 4 goals @ 9/2, or 5 goals @9/1. could see madrid getting a few.

yeah i'll be covering my pre-match bet, so basically my in-play bet is a free £50 to wing it on whatever looks half-possible with good odds.

just saw ladbrokes are refudning Correct Score, First Goalscorer & Half Time/Full Time bets up to £25 if the match ends in a draw. so that could factor in. any other sites doing offers for this match?

365 & Skybet are definitely the best odds of all the Bookies.

I got banned from all promotions for winning too much from these free bets.

Go to www.oddschecker.com to get the best odds :smiley:

I went for this, safest way to play in the rules and always gets some money and the occasional mega win, I have won a lot of money off 365 with this style of betting on this promotion :smiley:

I take it you have my second PM. Sorry for raising your hopes. I'm almost as bad as the online tipster I found who guaranteed a risk free return of either £1.25 or £553 by ignoring the fact that the match might end 0-0

do you have to pay for both bets because that's how it seems when it describes it?

Ok so If I put £50 on Athletico I'll get a £50 free in-play bet? and if that in-play bet loses I get the £50 back?

Yes, the in play bet is a "risk free" bet. You have to have the money in your account to put it on. If it doesn't come in then they will refund you back into your account. This is usually within a few hours but can take them overnight sometimes.

Oh ok, so its 2 £50 cash bets but the in play one is refunded if lost.

Yep, that's correct.

I expect a few people to mess this up though - it always happens :smiley:

So £50 on Athletico £50 risk free on draw and cover £15 on away win with another bookie? Any better ways to do it?

Since you've edited your post :smiley:

If you can afford the initial outlay, you're better off doing £150 on Atletico pre-match, £50 on the in-play draw and £15 on Leicester at 12/1 somewhere else.

Keeps within the T's & C's and guarantees a profit of £30 quid if Atletico or Leicester win or £60 if it's a draw.

Thank you Loop and HankHandsome for the help.

:smiley: Also if I just made an account I'd get the £150 bonus to roll over. Might do that.

I had an account there before but they can't find any record of it so the customer service said just make a new one.So hopefully there won't be a problem with the bonus

Oh no sorry, I would be loading £200 into the account so £200 free to try roll over.

I usually do Over 0.5 goal pre-match and then do something i actually think will win in-play. Have often won on team to win and BTTS so might do Over 0.5 in this match and then Atletico/BTTS in-play.

Obvious risk is that it ends 0-0 and i lose £50 but i'm aware of that risk before i start

You could stick a fiver on 0-0 at another bookies believe you might get 9 or 10-1

Good idea, but make sure you double check any bonuses as some of them can have rather silly wagering requirements. You don't want to stuff yourself up having to wager your winnings 856 times over or something like that !

If I deposit £200 I'll have to turn over £1200. no bets under 1/2 so pretty tough to come out with anything.

Wow, that's pretty steep. I'd refuse the bonus personally if that was the case.

Yeah so would I... why bother taking free £170-180

It's nothing more than play money unless you win big with it early on.

Done this loads of times. In the past few times I have done this offer. I always do Both teams to score in first half yes. Both to score in first half no. If they don't both score you get around £10 profit. If both do you get about £200+ profit.

Won this with the Arsenal v Bayern (Champ league)
Man United v Liverpool (Europa league last season)
Portugal vs Wales (Euro)
Arsenal v Liverpool (prem league this season)

Nothing more than matched betting

This guarantees a profit so breaches their terms and conditions. Sooner or later they will stop you if it's the only bet you place.
Also the odds for "no" are currently 1/8 so you would only get £6.25 profit if both teams do not score 1st half.

They very rarely enforce the T's & C's though which is why a lot of people tend to do it this way. There are safer ways of doing it but i think some people tend to think that because it hasn't happened to them yet it'll never happen but it still could.

Definately a chance of getting banned from promotions.

I used to do over 0.5; then pick a winner in the 90 once the match was started. Was only bet I was doing with them; had a few wins in a row and then got banned from promotions.

As long as you use bet365 regularly they won't enforce it, if you just use the account for this offer they will stop
It like they did to my wife

Couple more options for those who haven't placed the pre-match bet yet and who aren't fussed about risking the T's & C's.

Red Cards ..

£50 pre-match on "No" at 2/9 for £61.11
£50 in-play on "Yes" at 3/1 for £200

£11.11 minimum profit, £100 maximum

Own Goals

£50 pre-match on "No" at 1/20 for £52.50
£50 in-play on "Yes" at 10/1 for £550

£2.50 minimum profit, £450 maximum

Penalties

£50 pre-match on "No" at 2/7 for £64.28
£50 in-play on "Yes" at 5/2 for £175

£14.28 minimum profit, £75 maximum

Hi folks, never tried one of these before. Can I run it past you?

I've placed a £50 bet on Athetico to win = £65 return
I need to place the £50 in play bet on the draw = £275 return at current odds, but may change.
Then I need to cover for Leicester winning elsewhere.
I have an account with Coral that is currently at 11 to 1 so £5 would return me £60.

Total outlay = £50 + £50 + £5 = £105. If the draw bet loses I get £50 back.
Possible return are £65, £275 or £60. So guaranteed minimum of £5 return.
If Athletico win I get £65 and the £50 losing draw bet back. Making a £10 profit.
If it's a draw I make £170 profit.
If Leicester win I get £50 losing draw back, and £60 on the bet. Meaning £5 profit.

This stuff is more complicated that being at work.
Am I right?

Yeah, that'll work. Just remember your total outlay will be £105, not £55 as you have to pay for the £50 in-play bet yourself.

#edit

I see you edited your post as I was typing this, but yeah, you've got it. Go for BetStars for the Leicester bet though - they currently have them at 13/1 so a better option than Coral.

https://www.betstars.uk/#/soccer/coupons/soccer-champions-league-uk

Thanks fo that.

I went with Coral as I already have an account with them. The Leicester bet is just insurance really. Fingers crossed for the draw.

Requires a lot more money, but this blog details the method to pull £35+ profit regardless of the result:

https://matchedbettingblog.com/football/bet365-in-play-offer-atletico-madrid-v-leicester-city/#.WO0z7KDTXqA

Covering all outcomes with one bookmaker is always a risk. The bookie is well within their rights to refuse to pay out. Instant £100 loss. It hasn't happened with B365 yet. But that doesn't mean it won't ever happen.

A bit confused here. Can you explain more about the profit, I maybe missing something simple. I put

£150 on athletico win @ 3/10 = £195 potential.
£50 inplay on a Draw @~9/2 = £275 potential.
And £15 Leicester win @ 25/2 = £202.50. (netbet)
===Total bets £215
So, if the inplay doesnt win, I get the £50 back from bet365? that will combine with either athletico win (195+50=£245), or leceister win (202.50+50=£252.50)?

Is that accurate?

Total stake is £215.

Atletico win: £195 - £215 + £50 (refund) = £30.
Draw: £275 - £215 = £60.
Leicester win: £202.50 - £215 + £50 (refund) = £37.50.

Your profit is £30, £60, or £37.50.

ok. thanks for that. I shall proceed. (mind you, maybe I should wait till nearer the game. Odds are someone will forget or fall ill and not get the free bet on the draw, and it the result will be a draw and theyll be down 165 notes lol. It will be just my luck as well..)

Yep, you've got it. The in-play is refunded if it doesn't win - usually an hour or two after the game has finished.

A total outlay of £215, so £30 quid profit if Athletico win, £60 quid profit if it's a draw or £37.50 profit if Leicester win at 25/2.

#edit

hah! i'm slow with my replies tonight again :smiley:

in-play market doesnt have as many betting choices as pre-match market, so you need to be sure these cover bets are actualy available in in-play, just fyi

Not strictly true as one of your bets would win so you wouldn't lose £100. They can't just not pay out and keep your stake if it's a winner. PS good to see a reasonable amount of heat (people go mad for a £10 save on a £50 spend at Amazon) This is actual free money.

The draw will definitely be an in-play option right?? :laughing:

Yes it will be

say I put £50 on over 0.5 goals and this pays off before I've put my in play bet on, can I now just use this money to play the in play bet or does the 100 have to be deposited?

I can't remember how quickly 365 settle winning bets but most online bookies do settle them almost instantly, so in one respect then yes, it would work and you could then re-use the £50 quid.

That said, what happens if it's 0-0 ?

Obviously it's unlikely, but you're putting yourself in a situation where you're risking losing £50 on a risk free bet.

​I'll probs cover that with a few quid on no goalscorer

If they stop your account can you still withdraw the money?

If they enforce the T's & C's in this particular instance, then I think that they'll (A) Refuse to refund the in-play bet if it loses and (B) Ban you from further promotions.

I don't think they will essentially "stop" your account and prevent you from withdrawing any money unless they feel you're acting fraudulently.

I'm willing to be corrected on this though.

over 0.5 goals before then 3-1 to madrid inplay @ 12/1 might aswell go big. would rather win a holiday than a trip to the cinema thats the way i look at it.

I like your thinking :smiley:

Why not go balls out in-play and go for 4-1 at 22/1 ?. Returns £1, 150 at the moment.

Or even Riyad Mahrez as the first goalscorer at 20/1 for £1,050 ?

He's only one behind Aguero in the current Champions League scoring charts with 4 goals.

Either way, good luck :smiley:

Anyone else get the error message below when attempting to place a bet?

"Certain restrictions may be applied to your account. If you have an account balance you can request to withdraw these funds now by going to the Withdrawal page in Members."

I'm going for the standard - £150 home, £50 risk-free draw, £15 lay-off at betfair.

might be worth checking with them to make sure you haven't been banned from promotions

I've just opened my account with them, and this would be my first bet... so a ban seems unlikely...

Normally bet with betfair and it's much simpler than this!

Rookie question but what times kick off for the match lads?

Strange error then. Still worth checking with them.


7:45pm

Usually 7.45

And also make sure your accounts on bet365 have deposit restrictions set high enough to cover both £50 bets. It takes 24 hours to change them. I messed up like this last time but luckily didn't lose much

Just a thought...but lets say the game is a draw with 10 mins to go and you have the draw as in-play free bet, I'm thinking why not cash out early and take a "small dent?" in the payout, and leave open the chance of anyone getting a late goal means two bets up? The inplay draw cash out, AND a possible late goal winner as well?

^^^THIS

After checking, have discovered this was my issue, as a lower limit was "mapped over from an account held over ten years ago"...

Yep I was thinking that. It's all free money at the end of the day, So might be a good idea to cash out early and anything after that is an extra bonus. Depends how you have structured your bets of course.

Yeah I'm thinking of the 3-1 aswell or 2-0 not sure. I put £50 on athletico and have covered up on paddy power the draw and away. I was supposed to get someone elses account to do it so I could block both correct scores but not sure if thats going through.

That could work, sure. I haven't done one of these for a while though so I don't know exactly if they restrict the cash-out due to the no risk offer.

If you cash out you don't get the £50 in play bet refunded.

I don't think you've read the post properly. He said if the game is a draw with 10 minutes to go and you have the draw as the in-play bet, it might be worth cashing out and taking a hit on the profit in the hope someone scores a late goal.

If the in-play bet is winning, then the refund is irrelevant because you've already cashed out.

Ok I get it- just another gamble then really as you would be kicking yourself if there wasn't a late goal.

Oh you would, but i suppose you'd kick yourself just as hard if there was a late goal and you'd hung on to the draw bet.

Well, maybe but not really. If say I cash out on a draw with 10 mins to go and got e.g £250 instead of £275 if I waited till fulltime and it ended in a draw. I'd have lost out on £25 BUT in return I would reactivate my £150 bet on athletico to win, and my £15 on leicester to win..not bad for £25 early cash out decrease (if thats what it is). But its all academic really.

If only you had mentioned this yesterday to help dopes like me :laughing: . I'm trying my hardest to mess this up and will probably succeed. If anybody is thinking of laying their small non Bet365 bet on Leicester, then 888sport are offering 66-1 on them for new customers (£5 max)

NO NO NO! Don't fall for that. The enhanced odds are paid in "free bets" which have high wagering requirements, and are thus pretty useless...

Place the free bet now or wait?

I'm gonna go with the 3-1 brings back £600 profit for me

Depends what your bet is?

In play it'll be here draw

I can't see a penalty to be awarded as an in-play bet option?

I'm messing everything else up, but I cannot see anything about any wagering requirements.

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Hi there - i can't see the option to place the in play bet of Leicester to score in 1st half anywhere?

Any advice on what i could do as the in play bet please. My 1st bet was Leicester to score in the first half as "No" before the match starts.

In fact none of your 3 options are available as in play bets!

at the moment, it can be anything because you'll get the money back -


yeah i should have mentioned that they were unlikely to be in-play bets

There was a pen aswell lol

Terrible advice then don't you think?
Luckily I covered the penalty to be awarded live on Sky Bet, just before Atletico got the penalty or I would have lost £50!
Now need to decide what to use my £50 in play bet on.

Now was the time for the in-play draw stake :sunglasses:

double chance leicester or draw is 8/1 which will be a cracking payout if they can pull it back

over 10 corners might be a good shout as well at 9/4

sooooo .. how'd we all do then ?

Thanks OP. £20 cash profit and just under £50 of free bets ( the ease of converting these into cash remains to be seen)

£42.76 - thanks for posting.

broke even in the end once I get the £50 in play back. But I got £100 bonus need to roll it over to £600 so a nice 4-1 treble winner tomorrow and I'll basically have a £500 free bet, Place that on a 1/2 and I'll have £750 cash. easier said than done of course.

Annoyed the in-play penalty to be awarded bet wasn't available as I'd have won £75. As it is barely broke even thanks to cover bets elsewhere. Will stick to betting on the result only in future.

not had my £50 won 66p in total

some decent profits there. nice :smiley:

Once the inplay gets refunded I'll be £11.50 up. It'll pay for a takeaway :laughing:

£35 up, was hoping for a draw as it would have given me £500. Good profit though when they refund the in-play.

They seem slow in paying, I understand the risk free may take a while but the winnings from athletico winning still hasn't come. usually site pay with a couple minutes.

My risk free bet hasn't been paid either

Think the risk free will take a couple hours.

Shame it wasn't a draw, but still a small profit anyway (when no-risk bet refunded). Thanks OP.

A penalty that shouldn't have been cost me a few hundred, and saved Bet385 a good few thousand I would imagine - I reckon the referee works for Bet365 lol

I logged out of my account and back in, and my £65 for Athletico winning was there:)incase anyone else was having problems.

:confused:

still ain't received my free bet stake back yet. hope it's here in the morning :confused:

In-play bet has now been refunded on my account...

same here just now :smiley:

me to, thanks op

You may find for some reason that the free bet returned does not show in your balance at top of page, but is there when you click on withdrawals. That happened to me today, and after the Grand National on Saturday (when my 5 horses came 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th lol). All withdrawn with no problems.

Thanks so much OP. Made £30.

How often do they do these arbitrage ops?!

Reasonably often. It's usually with the "big" games though. If Leicester do qualify for the semifinals, I expect they'll do it again for those games.

Just posting an update to reassure Frankie Howerd on his worries about the 888sport enhanced odds offer. I managed to convert the £49 in free bets into £43 cash, so total profit on the bet was £63 (would have been £99 if I hadn't set a limit on my Bet365 account)