This time it seems a tad cheaper although it is shipped from China. If you choose Euro as payment and you have a Halifax, Revolut or similar card it comes up to ~£127 with free shipping to the UK.
Really tempted to click on purchase as I was after a small cheap-ish Win 10 laptop.
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MrPuddington
21 Apr 176#7
Usually, I would recommend to spend about £400 on a decent laptop: recent CPU, at least 8GB of RAM, SSD, FullHD touchscreen, external battery etc. It will last longer, it is nice to use, and it may be the better investment.
If that is not an option, I would look at a Chromebook. There are a number of options below and above £200. Yes, they are limited in what they can do, but the software is designed for simple hardware, and they have a few very nice features (like instant resume). I would try to get a Full HD screen and a recent CPU, so that it can run Android apps.
There are some simple 2-in-1 WIndows laptops (tablets with keyboards) around that price point, but usually with small screens (10" or 11.6").
Or you could look at a used laptop, but then you are unlikely to get a FullHD screen.
As I posted earlier, I bought one earlier this month. It's not bad for the price, and tbh your going to buy this off you want a cheap laptop with a fhd screen. It boots up pretty quickly, it's light and is okay for browsing and watching movies. It's not the fastest laptop, but it's 130 quid. You're not going to get a fhd chromebook for this money.
This laptop would be better if it was running win 8.1 or chrome os but win 10 seems to be okay. Im using Maxton browser and it doesn't hog the cpu like edge
4567234
23 Apr 17#37
You guys do realise that Lenovo is a Chinese brand, right?
Good deal BTW
arandomusername
22 Apr 17#24
Yes I threw in an SSD and installed Ubuntu on it. Worked straight away and now have dual boot machine. Screen is very good and the matte surface is ideal.
winchman to arandomusername
22 Apr 17#36
I posted a deal for the chuwi but it went very cold at £187, i guess people are concerned, shame as it seems good, have you done the thermal mod?. I'm waiting for a Jumper ezbook Pro that i grabbed when it was the same price as chuwi, same N3450 processor as chuwi but it's alloy shell, hopefully be ok. Think the screen res on the chuwi 12.3 might be a bit of a push, i quite like the Onda Xiaoma 21 but no prices yet. The N3450 certainly seems to be the one to go for
speculatrix
22 Apr 17#35
New laptops, tablets and convertibles with the latest generation Apollo Lake atoms are now readily available, and reviews suggest they're a fair bit better than this generation of atom.
Picard123
22 Apr 17#34
But only one is as thick as a volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica...
EndlessWaves
22 Apr 17#33
The two are almost exactly the same weight, both around 1.35kg (it depends on the exact spec).
Picard123
22 Apr 17#32
Of course it's true. Batteries WEAR and are volatile devices with limited lifespans, which shortens with each charge/discharge cycle. Even leaving the laptop constantly plugged in results in battery wear, which is why in newer Lenovos you have utilities like Lenovo energy manager, 'conservation mode' options, 60% held charges etc. Even a battery that's never been used but is simply old will not perform as well as a brand new, recently manufactured battery. Look at your Duracells for example - they have 'Best Before' dates.
This is from a X220 owner on the official Lenovo forums (there are many similar posts as its a fact that batteries wear with use!)
"Also, what can I do to generally keep the battery in good condition/long lasting? My last battery lasted for 4 years but in the 4th year it only held about 10% of the original charge capacity so I had to keep it plugged in all the time."
I bought a Lenovo x220 and still holds about 6 hours charge, a Lenovo T420 that holds about 3 hours... so no, you are not correct, you are comparing inferior laptops/batteries with the high quality ones used by Lenovo in their laptops. You do know it is about the only company in the world that you can actually see how many chargin cycles the battery had?
MaximusRo
22 Apr 17#30
That simply is not true.
There where many Lenovo Thinkpad refurbished deals posted on HUKD and many bought them, myself included, and had batteries lasting almost as new.
These laptops costed over £1000 when new, and come with high quality cells in their batteries, not like the ones you would get in a chinese laptop, that comes to you with 0 warranty.
You are more likely to get a battery that will last 3 months on a laptop imported from China than a baterry that lasts under 3 hours on this Lenovo laptop.
And of course, you have to remember the CPU is 3 - 4 times faster in the Lenovo... so do not ask for the same battery life.
And what about a replacement battery for this Chinese laptop? ?No chance.
For the lenovo, just search on any site, and there will be plenty
Picard123
22 Apr 17#29
5.5 hours is very poor for a laptop in 2017.
Given the likely battery wear, I'd be surprised if you could get much more than 1-2 hours out of it now. I have a laptop that I bought about 3 years ago that I've used daily with constant charge/discharge cycles basically as my portable web browser / email device. When new, I could get ~ 8-8.5 hours from the battery (close to max brightness, WiFi, web browsing etc). Now I get about 3 hours simply due to the battery wear.
The batteries on these old Thinkpads don't last very well. Official Lenovo replacement batteries cost a bomb. Get a knock off Chinese replacement from Ebay or similar and you risk the battery overheating and in a worst case scenario creating a fire risk. No thanks.
And why are you talking about 3G SIMs? It's 2017, not 2005. Everyone has mobile phones these days that can create a mobile hotspot with 4G/LTE speeds. A 3G SIM slot on a laptop is obsolete in 2017.
MaximusRo
22 Apr 17#28
5.5 hours not good? You must be kidding... And you do know these costed a lot of money when new, come with magnesium casing, and a SIM card slot so you can easily use them with a 3G modem?
The CPU performance is about 4 times better... not marginally better:
there seems to be 3 versions of the ezbook 2 selectable but not sure what the difference is apart from the price
Picard123
22 Apr 17#26
I've seen paving stones thinner than those.
The battery is also likely to be shot to bits. Even brand new the battery life wasn't good to begin with, and with 3-4 years of use, you probably won't get more than 1-2 hours of charge out of it.
"A more real-world battery test was performed under the “Balanced” profile at about 60 percent screen brightness (~150 cd/m2). We then ran our standard script to simulate typical online surfing conditions with the occasional Flash videos. The notebook finally shut down after about 5 and a half hours." - NBC
ismaildeals123
21 Apr 17#4
parts would be rare on this and its not like the customers service here is brilliant
Picard123 to ismaildeals123
22 Apr 17#25
You're worrying too much. For £135 it's cheap enough to be a throwaway device.
arandomusername
22 Apr 172#22
Just to balance things out I'm typing this on a chuwi lapbook 14 from gearbest that cost 180 quid in total. It's a great machine that I take with me on travel and can do some development work on. Sometimes I prefer to pick it up rather than my 2K macbook pro. Yes of course it's a risk that stuff will break etc but so far I have spent about 900 quid over a number of orders with gearbest and havent had any issues.
BOGGLE00 to arandomusername
22 Apr 17#23
After plenty of research I was looking at a 2 in 1 China tablet with keyboard. I didn't really consider a laptop until I saw the Chuwi Lapbook 14.
With a matte FHD screen, ok processor and ability to upgrade to SSD (at extra cost) I couldn't resist at that price.
May drop further with the pending release of the Lapbook 12.
Just hoping it gets through customs with no costs.
dz1
22 Apr 17#21
I have the same processor in my tablet. It is rather slow and outdated unfortunately. Intel should have replaced it ages ago but I think they've given up on the tablet market. I would pay more for something faster as it will frustrate you.
justanotherpunter
22 Apr 171#17
Gearbest are a shower of s h y t e, 45 day warranty so good luck when it breaks. Don't be fooled by 'One year free warranty', they wanted to charge me $120 for 'postage and handling' on a mini-pc, bunch of w @ n k e r s ......
You get some warranty, a very easy to service and upgrade laptop, and all from the UK, China is always a gamble
MrPuddington
22 Apr 17#16
That sounds rather specialist. Did you consider a battery pack for your laptop? And is display brightness an issue? Bright display and long battery life do not usually work well together. Is a tablet too small?
Steph312
22 Apr 172#15
I ordered a different product on 13/04/17 and it's still not even been shipped yet. After contacting customer services and complaining I've been informed that it's not currently in stock even though it's on sale again on their site quoting 80pcs left in stock to sell. So selling stock today that they don't currently have in their warehouse selling stock they anticipate to get at some point if ever if there aren't further delays. Plus the usual delays in getting a product from China of 1 month etc delivery or so. I wouldn't mind if I was informed of this and also since other similar Chinese vendors actually are honest and state on their sites not in stock currently being restocked and others actually have stock to sell instead of waiting on these scam artists for a month plus extra added delays. Jokers
Picard123
22 Apr 17#14
If YouTube and casual browsing is all you want to do, just get a used Acer 720 Chromebook off Ebay. They're great machines for that and you'll easily get one for £50-£100 depending on condition.
I have one and the wifi reception is weak. Effectively no warranty as according to them carriage both ways is at your cost.
yeahbutitsnotfree to doogan9
21 Apr 171#12
yes this is defo a letdown with all china products though. It just isn't the same when we encounter a problem, they ask for you to pay the shipping which is expensive from u.k. Still we buy from there because even with shipping added it is cheaper than buying from here.
Considering most products are made in China how we are selling them at double the price is beyond me.
AndyRoyd to doogan9
21 Apr 17#13
Presumably this £100+ item was paid for directly via a credit card to benefit from Section 75 protection, so the credit card company is your first port of call to service warranty requirements; don't bother with the vendor, it's too much faff.
Draken21
21 Apr 17#10
For that price I could get only a refurbished/used X230 as you said and I already have a T420 but the battery is dying. Have tried a few from ebay but I cannot get over 1,5h from them. The original Lenovo one is the same price as the Jumper netbook so not really an option.
MrPuddington
21 Apr 176#7
Usually, I would recommend to spend about £400 on a decent laptop: recent CPU, at least 8GB of RAM, SSD, FullHD touchscreen, external battery etc. It will last longer, it is nice to use, and it may be the better investment.
If that is not an option, I would look at a Chromebook. There are a number of options below and above £200. Yes, they are limited in what they can do, but the software is designed for simple hardware, and they have a few very nice features (like instant resume). I would try to get a Full HD screen and a recent CPU, so that it can run Android apps.
There are some simple 2-in-1 WIndows laptops (tablets with keyboards) around that price point, but usually with small screens (10" or 11.6").
Or you could look at a used laptop, but then you are unlikely to get a FullHD screen.
Draken21 to MrPuddington
21 Apr 17#9
Currently I have 2 desktops and 2 "proper" laptops. I just need one for Youtube in the garden with a decent battery life (over 5h, which my laptops would not deliver) and I do not really want to spend much more than £130. Chromebooks are not really an option. I recently gave one away cause I could not get used to the OS. So my only option is a Win 7 or 10 netbook/notebook.
Don't really care about performance. Just portability and battery life. For that money tbh I have not found a better alternative but I am open to suggestions.
markslavin
21 Apr 171#8
How about a used Lenovo X230? About £150?
MrPuddington
21 Apr 171#5
That is not really a laptop, more a modern netbook with minimal hardware specs. The CPU is slow by any means, the eMMC is small and possible slow, the camera terrible. At least the screen seems decent, so maybe a good choice for casual web browsing.
Draken21 to MrPuddington
21 Apr 171#6
Do you have an alternative at around £130 by any chance cause I have been looking for one the past month? Just need it for Youtube and casual browsing. Screen should not be to big either.
EndlessWaves
21 Apr 171#2
Seems to be finished. I'm showing £135 as the advertised price and once you add VAT and customs charges that's £170+
Draken21 to EndlessWaves
21 Apr 17#3
Choose to pay in Euro then the prize drops to ~150 Euro which is around £125 at the moment, but yes you run the risk of custom charges.
djdope
21 Apr 171#1
Bought on recently. Not bad for the money. It does take an age to charge but seems to be okay. There is a little flex in the keyboard but not too bad.
Opening post
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/jumper-ezbook-2-ultrabook-laptop-14-0-inch-windows-10-intel-cherry-trail-x5-z8350-2633948
This time it seems a tad cheaper although it is shipped from China. If you choose Euro as payment and you have a Halifax, Revolut or similar card it comes up to ~£127 with free shipping to the UK.
Really tempted to click on purchase as I was after a small cheap-ish Win 10 laptop.
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If that is not an option, I would look at a Chromebook. There are a number of options below and above £200. Yes, they are limited in what they can do, but the software is designed for simple hardware, and they have a few very nice features (like instant resume). I would try to get a Full HD screen and a recent CPU, so that it can run Android apps.
There are some simple 2-in-1 WIndows laptops (tablets with keyboards) around that price point, but usually with small screens (10" or 11.6").
Or you could look at a used laptop, but then you are unlikely to get a FullHD screen.
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Might be worth a look if you don't mind ordering from China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIN7jwtP38k
This laptop would be better if it was running win 8.1 or chrome os but win 10 seems to be okay. Im using Maxton browser and it doesn't hog the cpu like edge
Good deal BTW
This is from a X220 owner on the official Lenovo forums (there are many similar posts as its a fact that batteries wear with use!)
"Also, what can I do to generally keep the battery in good condition/long lasting? My last battery lasted for 4 years but in the 4th year it only held about 10% of the original charge capacity so I had to keep it plugged in all the time."
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X220-Battery-General-Information/td-p/2211561
There where many Lenovo Thinkpad refurbished deals posted on HUKD and many bought them, myself included, and had batteries lasting almost as new.
These laptops costed over £1000 when new, and come with high quality cells in their batteries, not like the ones you would get in a chinese laptop, that comes to you with 0 warranty.
Thee guys say battery lasts over 6 hours: https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/lenovo-thinkpad-x230/review/2/
You are more likely to get a battery that will last 3 months on a laptop imported from China than a baterry that lasts under 3 hours on this Lenovo laptop.
And of course, you have to remember the CPU is 3 - 4 times faster in the Lenovo... so do not ask for the same battery life.
And what about a replacement battery for this Chinese laptop? ?No chance.
For the lenovo, just search on any site, and there will be plenty
Given the likely battery wear, I'd be surprised if you could get much more than 1-2 hours out of it now. I have a laptop that I bought about 3 years ago that I've used daily with constant charge/discharge cycles basically as my portable web browser / email device. When new, I could get ~ 8-8.5 hours from the battery (close to max brightness, WiFi, web browsing etc). Now I get about 3 hours simply due to the battery wear.
The batteries on these old Thinkpads don't last very well. Official Lenovo replacement batteries cost a bomb. Get a knock off Chinese replacement from Ebay or similar and you risk the battery overheating and in a worst case scenario creating a fire risk. No thanks.
And why are you talking about 3G SIMs? It's 2017, not 2005. Everyone has mobile phones these days that can create a mobile hotspot with 4G/LTE speeds. A 3G SIM slot on a laptop is obsolete in 2017.
The CPU performance is about 4 times better... not marginally better:
Cannot seem to add a picture to this forum... darn
here is the link https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2774&cmp[]=817
http://imgur.com/a/afDYK
The battery is also likely to be shot to bits. Even brand new the battery life wasn't good to begin with, and with 3-4 years of use, you probably won't get more than 1-2 hours of charge out of it.
"A more real-world battery test was performed under the “Balanced” profile at about 60 percent screen brightness (~150 cd/m2). We then ran our standard script to simulate typical online surfing conditions with the occasional Flash videos. The notebook finally shut down after about 5 and a half hours." - NBC
With a matte FHD screen, ok processor and ability to upgrade to SSD (at extra cost) I couldn't resist at that price.
May drop further with the pending release of the Lapbook 12.
Just hoping it gets through customs with no costs.
You get some warranty, a very easy to service and upgrade laptop, and all from the UK, China is always a gamble
eg. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acer-Chromebook-C720-11-6-034-16GB-Intel-Celeron-1-4GHz-2GB-Notebook-Laptop-/252850817499
This one would be worth putting a bid in for as it looks in decent condition: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Granite-Grey-Acer-C720-Chromebook-Tablet-laptop-Computer-With-Charger/192157630208
Considering most products are made in China how we are selling them at double the price is beyond me.
If that is not an option, I would look at a Chromebook. There are a number of options below and above £200. Yes, they are limited in what they can do, but the software is designed for simple hardware, and they have a few very nice features (like instant resume). I would try to get a Full HD screen and a recent CPU, so that it can run Android apps.
There are some simple 2-in-1 WIndows laptops (tablets with keyboards) around that price point, but usually with small screens (10" or 11.6").
Or you could look at a used laptop, but then you are unlikely to get a FullHD screen.
Don't really care about performance. Just portability and battery life. For that money tbh I have not found a better alternative but I am open to suggestions.