Usually, I would recommend to spend about £400 on a decent laptop: recent CPU, at least 8GB of RAM, SSD, FullHD touchscreen, external battery etc. It will last longer, it is nice to use, and it may be the better investment.

If that is not an option, I would look at a Chromebook. There are a number of options below and above £200. Yes, they are limited in what they can do, but the software is designed for simple hardware, and they have a few very nice features (like instant resume). I would try to get a Full HD screen and a recent CPU, so that it can run Android apps.

There are some simple 2-in-1 WIndows laptops (tablets with keyboards) around that price point, but usually with small screens (10" or 11.6").

Or you could look at a used laptop, but then you are unlikely to get a FullHD screen.

Bought on recently. Not bad for the money. It does take an age to charge but seems to be okay. There is a little flex in the keyboard but not too bad.

Seems to be finished. I'm showing £135 as the advertised price and once you add VAT and customs charges that's £170+

parts would be rare on this and its not like the customers service here is brilliant

That is not really a laptop, more a modern netbook with minimal hardware specs. The CPU is slow by any means, the eMMC is small and possible slow, the camera terrible. At least the screen seems decent, so maybe a good choice for casual web browsing.

Usually, I would recommend to spend about £400 on a decent laptop: recent CPU, at least 8GB of RAM, SSD, FullHD touchscreen, external battery etc. It will last longer, it is nice to use, and it may be the better investment.

If that is not an option, I would look at a Chromebook. There are a number of options below and above £200. Yes, they are limited in what they can do, but the software is designed for simple hardware, and they have a few very nice features (like instant resume). I would try to get a Full HD screen and a recent CPU, so that it can run Android apps.

There are some simple 2-in-1 WIndows laptops (tablets with keyboards) around that price point, but usually with small screens (10" or 11.6").

Or you could look at a used laptop, but then you are unlikely to get a FullHD screen.

How about a used Lenovo X230? About £150?

For that price I could get only a refurbished/used X230 as you said and I already have a T420 but the battery is dying. Have tried a few from ebay but I cannot get over 1,5h from them. The original Lenovo one is the same price as the Jumper netbook so not really an option.

I have one and the wifi reception is weak. Effectively no warranty as according to them carriage both ways is at your cost.

If YouTube and casual browsing is all you want to do, just get a used Acer 720 Chromebook off Ebay. They're great machines for that and you'll easily get one for £50-£100 depending on condition.

eg. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acer-Chromebook-C720-11-6-034-16GB-Intel-Celeron-1-4GHz-2GB-Notebook-Laptop-/252850817499

This one would be worth putting a bid in for as it looks in decent condition: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Granite-Grey-Acer-C720-Chromebook-Tablet-laptop-Computer-With-Charger/192157630208

I ordered a different product on 13/04/17 and it's still not even been shipped yet. After contacting customer services and complaining I've been informed that it's not currently in stock even though it's on sale again on their site quoting 80pcs left in stock to sell. So selling stock today that they don't currently have in their warehouse selling stock they anticipate to get at some point if ever if there aren't further delays. Plus the usual delays in getting a product from China of 1 month etc delivery or so. I wouldn't mind if I was informed of this and also since other similar Chinese vendors actually are honest and state on their sites not in stock currently being restocked and others actually have stock to sell instead of waiting on these scam artists for a month plus extra added delays. Jokers

That sounds rather specialist. Did you consider a battery pack for your laptop? And is display brightness an issue? Bright display and long battery life do not usually work well together. Is a tablet too small?

Gearbest are a shower of s h y t e, 45 day warranty so good luck when it breaks. Don't be fooled by 'One year free warranty', they wanted to charge me $120 for 'postage and handling' on a mini-pc, bunch of w @ n k e r s ......

Get one of these, thank me later: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/refurbished-lenovo-x230-laptop-i5-3rd-gen-12-laptop-4gb-320gb-windows-7-149-99-eflex-2661988?p=30619364

You get some warranty, a very easy to service and upgrade laptop, and all from the UK, China is always a gamble

I have the same processor in my tablet. It is rather slow and outdated unfortunately. Intel should have replaced it ages ago but I think they've given up on the tablet market. I would pay more for something faster as it will frustrate you.

Just to balance things out I'm typing this on a chuwi lapbook 14 from gearbest that cost 180 quid in total. It's a great machine that I take with me on travel and can do some development work on. Sometimes I prefer to pick it up rather than my 2K macbook pro. Yes of course it's a risk that stuff will break etc but so far I have spent about 900 quid over a number of orders with gearbest and havent had any issues.

Yes I threw in an SSD and installed Ubuntu on it. Worked straight away and now have dual boot machine. Screen is very good and the matte surface is ideal.

I've seen paving stones thinner than those.



The battery is also likely to be shot to bits. Even brand new the battery life wasn't good to begin with, and with 3-4 years of use, you probably won't get more than 1-2 hours of charge out of it.

"A more real-world battery test was performed under the “Balanced” profile at about 60 percent screen brightness (~150 cd/m2). We then ran our standard script to simulate typical online surfing conditions with the occasional Flash videos. The notebook finally shut down after about 5 and a half hours." - NBC

there seems to be 3 versions of the ezbook 2 selectable but not sure what the difference is apart from the price

5.5 hours not good? You must be kidding... And you do know these costed a lot of money when new, come with magnesium casing, and a SIM card slot so you can easily use them with a 3G modem?

The CPU performance is about 4 times better... not marginally better:


Cannot seem to add a picture to this forum... darn
here is the link https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2774&cmp[]=817

http://imgur.com/a/afDYK

5.5 hours is very poor for a laptop in 2017.

Given the likely battery wear, I'd be surprised if you could get much more than 1-2 hours out of it now. I have a laptop that I bought about 3 years ago that I've used daily with constant charge/discharge cycles basically as my portable web browser / email device. When new, I could get ~ 8-8.5 hours from the battery (close to max brightness, WiFi, web browsing etc). Now I get about 3 hours simply due to the battery wear.

The batteries on these old Thinkpads don't last very well. Official Lenovo replacement batteries cost a bomb. Get a knock off Chinese replacement from Ebay or similar and you risk the battery overheating and in a worst case scenario creating a fire risk. No thanks.

And why are you talking about 3G SIMs? It's 2017, not 2005. Everyone has mobile phones these days that can create a mobile hotspot with 4G/LTE speeds. A 3G SIM slot on a laptop is obsolete in 2017.

That simply is not true.
There where many Lenovo Thinkpad refurbished deals posted on HUKD and many bought them, myself included, and had batteries lasting almost as new.

These laptops costed over £1000 when new, and come with high quality cells in their batteries, not like the ones you would get in a chinese laptop, that comes to you with 0 warranty.

Thee guys say battery lasts over 6 hours: https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/lenovo-thinkpad-x230/review/2/

You are more likely to get a battery that will last 3 months on a laptop imported from China than a baterry that lasts under 3 hours on this Lenovo laptop.

And of course, you have to remember the CPU is 3 - 4 times faster in the Lenovo... so do not ask for the same battery life.

And what about a replacement battery for this Chinese laptop? ?No chance.

For the lenovo, just search on any site, and there will be plenty

I bought a Lenovo x220 and still holds about 6 hours charge, a Lenovo T420 that holds about 3 hours... so no, you are not correct, you are comparing inferior laptops/batteries with the high quality ones used by Lenovo in their laptops. You do know it is about the only company in the world that you can actually see how many chargin cycles the battery had?

Of course it's true. Batteries WEAR and are volatile devices with limited lifespans, which shortens with each charge/discharge cycle. Even leaving the laptop constantly plugged in results in battery wear, which is why in newer Lenovos you have utilities like Lenovo energy manager, 'conservation mode' options, 60% held charges etc. Even a battery that's never been used but is simply old will not perform as well as a brand new, recently manufactured battery. Look at your Duracells for example - they have 'Best Before' dates.

This is from a X220 owner on the official Lenovo forums (there are many similar posts as its a fact that batteries wear with use!)

"Also, what can I do to generally keep the battery in good condition/long lasting? My last battery lasted for 4 years but in the 4th year it only held about 10% of the original charge capacity so I had to keep it plugged in all the time."

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X220-Battery-General-Information/td-p/2211561

The two are almost exactly the same weight, both around 1.35kg (it depends on the exact spec).

But only one is as thick as a volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica...

New laptops, tablets and convertibles with the latest generation Apollo Lake atoms are now readily available, and reviews suggest they're a fair bit better than this generation of atom.

You guys do realise that Lenovo is a Chinese brand, right?

Good deal BTW

This does NOT come with the keyboard. Read Description before buying

As I posted earlier, I bought one earlier this month. It's not bad for the price, and tbh your going to buy this off you want a cheap laptop with a fhd screen. It boots up pretty quickly, it's light and is okay for browsing and watching movies. It's not the fastest laptop, but it's 130 quid. You're not going to get a fhd chromebook for this money.
This laptop would be better if it was running win 8.1 or chrome os but win 10 seems to be okay. Im using Maxton browser and it doesn't hog the cpu like edge

http://www.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_620750.html
Might be worth a look if you don't mind ordering from China.