Voting cold for police officers supporting their fallen colleague, shame on you

Horrible to see this voted down. Virgin is trying to help (cant stress how much i hate Branson but they are trying) helps even a little for police officers to be able to attend the funeral of a colleague murdered trying to help others :smiley:<3:sunglasses: . If you dont like Police Officers have a good look in the mirror theres a strong possibility you are the problem

To be honest with you I've been far too busy working and solving crimes to read newspapers! I can't see why you describe this as a pointless post, I was merely pointing out that not all individuals use the likes of social media therefore I find posts like this as informative. Not having a go at you!

me thinks its an awesome idea

Cold!

Not a good day for non-police officers to travel without a ticket - You will get arrested

Voting cold for police officers supporting their fallen colleague, shame on you

me thinks its an awesome idea

Plenty of times on HUKD has a person shared a deal to bring matters such as this to people's attention and many, many times that deal has reached the top of the daily deals board, meaning even more people see it - namely Poppy appeals, Help for Heroes charity, discounted rail fares for disabled people and plenty more. I voted hot on this - police officers should be made aware of this 'offer'. Shame it's only for one day.

I think it's fair to assume that police officers will be aware of this without having to see it on HUKD. It was on the UK's leading crime and policing news site yesterday. https://policehour.co.uk/2017/04/virgin-trains-offer-police-officers-free-travel-standwithkeith/

Horrible to see this voted down. Virgin is trying to help (cant stress how much i hate Branson but they are trying) helps even a little for police officers to be able to attend the funeral of a colleague murdered trying to help others :smiley:<3:sunglasses: . If you dont like Police Officers have a good look in the mirror theres a strong possibility you are the problem

#standwithkeith by sitting on a train..

It's also been in almost every local newspaper. Don't you talk to your colleagues? It really doesn't say much for your investigative skills. Have you thought about an alternative career? And, if you were not aware of it, how come you knew it was on "the likes of Facebook and other social media platforms!"

To be honest with you I've been far too busy working and solving crimes to read newspapers! I can't see why you describe this as a pointless post, I was merely pointing out that not all individuals use the likes of social media therefore I find posts like this as informative. Not having a go at you!

why should a Police Officer get free travel, will Virgin be offering free travel to the funerals of the other people killed, the ones that weren't paid to protect this country!

cold what about the other victims or are they not important enough

You really are so far up your own aren't you. Maybe not everyone spends their entire day on deals websites like you do, so how about just winding your neck in and giving it a rest.

Probably cos it's only for a small group people.

Publicity stunt.

FYI It is for serving officers only, retired officers are not included.

I cannot believe some of the comments on here, nor the cold voting. There are a lot of miserable people on HUKD.

"FREE TRAVEL FOR POLICE OFFICERS WITH VIRGIN"
Good luck finding a virgin round my neck of the woods......Beduff.

They are trolls, just here to wind people up. Sadly the HUKD admin/mod team can't find their **** with both hands so cracking down on trolling is an impossible task for them.

Ok, if you're a police officer and on rest days, you may not have seen this gesture from Virgin and well done to the OP for highlighting it. Also, National Express are providing free transport for current and retired officers on the day and is available with a code and its possibly on their website. Well done to both companies I say. The camaraderie and commitment that officers put in to their jobs means that there will be many who wish to support PC Palmer's family, even if they did not know him personally. These gestures show there is understanding for that and should be applauded.

​Actually I wasn't aware of it until I saw it on this post.
If there's a deal on tampax would you vote cold because it's only for women?

shockingly cynical action from a failing company desperate for public goodwill.

Why offer it now? Why not when other police have been killed? Why not offer it all the time?

Anyone supporting this, is supporting the exploitation of a tragedy for commercial gain.

No, i wouldn't. That would be available to 50% of the population, and wouldn't have been publicised in just about every news outlet including the leading police one. For clarification, i did not vote the offer of free travel cold. I respect our policemen and women and think this is a great offer on the part of Virgin (as well as good marketing). I voted this post cold. So far, we are aware of only 2 officers who only found out about the offer through it (assuming you are one). Neither of them have said they will be taking advantage of it. So that's zero people, that we know of, who will benefit from this "deal".

Er... shouldn't this be in freebies?

​Should do the karma whoring response... upvote this, down vote 2 of OPs previous deals...

Haha likewise I can't stand Turkish Delight but I wouldn't actively seek a post on the stuff to **** it off!

​Voting cold is not trolling.

I think you do not understand what trolling is.

People with different opinions to you are not trolls.

​So people were actively looking for this post to "**** it off" ?

I think we all understand what trolling is perfectly well, and in this case it probably actually is, regardless of your attempts to try and sound clever.

I think it's a great idea.

Really gets on my nerves in this country when we have all this "Help our Heroes" and a heroes welcome for soldiers.
Don't get me wrong, but they do this country a great service.

But the police...
They get all the scum to deal with on a daily basis, undermaned, people constantly lying to them, policing the streets at weekends when the pubs and clubs are kicking out.
Getting spat at, shouted at, and bricks hauled at.
Dangerous situations, being run over, stabbed and in some cases shot.

Good on Virgin East Coast to support some real heroes who put their lives on the line each and every day.

As my train was held up this morning as some scrote assaulted a member of staff and police needed to be called... one of those bad movie scenes where the rest of passengers were Police officers would be funny.

You missed the point a bit there. I wasn't talking about the cold voting, I was talking about the general miserable and rude attitude a lot of people express. A lot of it aimed at other people who have done nothing wrong.

You can have a differing opinion to someone else, but you can have the decency to be polite about it. There are some repeat offenders too, sometimes to the point where you think there might actually be something wrong with them. You have to consider if the community would be better off without them, or even better if HUKD would implement disliking/downvoting comments.

im not a police officer
so im voting cold but im still #StandingWithKeith

wow....

I don't shop in Aldi, but know a hot deal when I see it - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cauliflowers-29p-aldi-super-six-9-21-april-also-for-29p-parsnips-leeks-white-potatoes-2655226

Rather than assuming, try finding out the facts.
Virgin,along with several other rail operators, including GWR and quite a few others, were asked by supporters over Twitter initially, whether they would provide free 2nd class travel for that day only to warranted officers to attend the funeral at Southwark Cathedral.
They did not volunteer for free publicity, they were asked and they responded positively.
I would suggest they probably did not refuse for fear of negative publicity but they did not initiate this.

OP this is also applicable to travel on Virgin West Coast too, if you could update your original post please. Also any Police Staff with an I.D card. Free travel is for both the out and return journey.

Pretty sad that you have to turn this into some kind of insult. I don't know what's worse, the fact you are whining about it or the taking the that six people liked your post!

This made me laugh - Picturing it in my head right now :-)

i guess that day would be a bad day to fare hop

also any off duty police officer wishing to travel on any train would normally just "flash the badge" and get the nod off the train guard/manager as they will always feel safer knowing they have someone on their train who will be able to get a faster response from their colleagues at their say so should things kick off one their train as in certain parts of the UK the BTP aren't always "available" Just saying...

So when are the train / bus companies going to start offering deals like this for squaddies then????

A bloke at my work died, no-one offered cheap travel to his funeral, we all had to try book time off (losing a days pay), if we wanted to go :disappointed:

Thanks Virgin. A nice offer to make.

Besides, I can't believe the attitudes of people these days. So much negativity it's unreal. The police do a difficult job and don't exactly get paid handsomely for their efforts. The same goes for the NHS workers. In fact anyone who deals with the public deserves better pay having to put up with your moaning all day every day. Most people expect the world and expect to have to pay next to nothing for it ! People need to chill out some times and not sweat the small stuff. You know who you are

Some pent up frustration here. You're pathetic enough to release it over a forum post on someone risking his life to defend the country you live in.

Bet you wouldn't be saying that to his face, wuss.

I couldn't agree with you more! I serve as a [volunteer] warranted PO and don't get all the bashing officers get; be it queuing for food, or trying to contain worse imaginable situation with public pointing cameras at them or patrolling streets/shopping centers to protect civilians! Most forces do a tag along day for civilian to experience life as a PO, just do an hour with them before abusing them on social media; you don't know half of what they deal with and thankfully, never will!

​Sometimes it's better not to post what you think.

For you, that time was now

How are they supporting commercial gain? The offer from Virgin is there to be used (or not). If no-one uses it or 100s do, there's no further "gain" for either scenario as they've already publicised it?

Would you rather they boycott Virgin and travel on East Coast Mainline at their own expense instead?

I think a lot of people are missing the point. It's not a nod to a fallen colleague by a train company but a way of increasing the amount of officers on public transport. A lot of train and bus companies offer free travel to and from work. I can only speak personally but I have had to 'deploy' without any equipment more times than I can recall over my 25 years service on both buses and trains because of hostile, aggressive or mentally ill people causing a danger to the public.
If I had to pay for public transport I'd drive as it would be easier and cheaper for me.
These incentives make public transport a little bit safer for you.
I don't have the luxury of keeping my head down like the majority of people. It's my job and I do my best every day to make you as safe as one individual can.
But there are lots of individuals like me on buses and trains every day purely because it's cheaper than driving and that means you're a little safer every day because of people like me.
Anything to encourage that is a good thing. Trust me
Cheers
Harb

​Indeed and by posting this non deal here it only adds to the publicity

free Helmet free suit free car and now free train travel WTF? Check out the comments on the discounted rail cards offer. My disabled card costs £20 and people on here described it as a benefit. Would love the benefits the Police get and not forgetting a very generous pension.

Go on then, elaborate.......

There you go.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/armed-forces-and-veterans/benefits-and-concessions-for-the-armed-forces-veterans-and-their-families/

Sorry I'm lost, free car and suit? Are you referring to the patrol vehicles and uniform that we are issued (as with most jobs)?
As for the pension you really have no idea!!
Enough said now I'm bored of all the negative comments that are constantly thrown towards officers.
I tell you what Scunny come out with me on patrol for a day and you would soon change your opinion of the police. I work hard and try to do the right thing on a day to day basis, treating each individual I come into contact with respect and try to help make a difference in this messed up world as do all of my colleagues and I'm just about fed up with all the negative press we get. At the end of the day I think SOME individuals are forgetting the main reason behind this post. Constable Palmer has served his country in the Armed forces and Police Service to help make a difference and his life was cut short because of some idiot.

You are joking, I hope?

Try being a self employed sub contract bricklayer. Nothing provided. Run a car all over the country at your own expense, have no income when raining or sites are shut for holidays. Any illness keeping me off work meant no pennies what so ever. Buying tools and work clothing at own expense. Even a helmet! No pension or holiday for us. You don't appreciate how lucky you are.

what? am I reading that sentence wrong

To be fair, most police travel for free on the rails anyway showing a warrant card. It's just a 'deal' the train companies and the police seem to have

Yes, nobody has ever pulled such a stunt for good PR before...

Awwww poor you - get another job then if you don't like it and stop your moaning! It's not as if someone's got a gun to your head making you be a bricky is it? Grow a pair love and move on.

If you don't know the facts, you're probably better off keeping your trap shut.

What makes you say I don't? Then I'll correct you...

Argh bless you. Who would build the lovely new warm police stations if it wasn't for us. Got 5 in Scunthorpe, glorified canteens for the police to drive to and eat their sandwiches from home. Bet they miss the old subsidised cooked canteen food. Yes I have worked on police stations when they had them. PAY they can afford it!

So the fact when it comes to police officers and travel on trains is what then?

I don't really care enough to argue on the internet... but as I said, explain to me how I'm wrong first, then I'll correct you. Unless you do that it quite simply goes no further

Scunny, you are a Mormon who has no idea what cops have to put up with, you also have no idea how much they pay for their 'very generous pension'. Mmm, I wonder if you have been on the wrong side of the law at some time? Let's hope you are never involved in a serious accident or lose someone close to you or they go missing. Here's an idea, let the Police go on strike for better pay and conditions, as they should do, and then see what happens. Oh, they can't, it's illegal for them to strike.

Exactly - a know nothing jumping on the bandwagon.....well done!

Well done Virgin, thanks for supporting recognition of a brave act, shame about the bigots, so well done Virgin, and National Express

It's worth remembering that you not an officer and you are a Constable. You swear an oath to the Queen to uphold the LAW.

An officer works for corporate interests, enforcing Acts and Statutes.

Nice sentiment that wil allow more police officers to go pay their respects to their fallen comrade.

I think most people vote hot on posts like this as it feels like the right thing to do. I can understand people voting cold too, that's their right and it is a very niche 'deal'. I havent read anything offensive here though, unlike a recent motorcycle accessory post, where some people were being vile about desires to cause accidents for motorcyclists. I will vote hot for the fact it has made me aware of someone, presumably a police officer, named Keith who I will now read up on. The Police have a very difficult job and for that reason, I always give them my respect. Yes, even when I am out for a Sunday blast on my 1000cc GSXR :sunglasses:

One didn't like it. That should tell you who is in the wrong. Unless you believe your opinion is superior to that of everyone else? I was merely pointing out that 99.9% of the police force didn't require HUKD to make them aware of this offer. Maybe the 0.1% would be better off in a different vocation, one that doesn't require them to be au fait with what is happening in the world at large.

That's interesting. I like facts like that. I recently learned why our names appear in capital letters on official items such as bank cards, passports and driving licenses etc. In the eyes of the laws of our land, we are property - http://humansarefree.com/2015/07/heres-why-your-legal-name-is-written-in.html

Well said. Police constables are public servants. All too often, they forget that they are 'servants' not 'masters'. They police by consent.

'Constable Palmer served his country in the Armed forces and Police Service' because he wanted to do those jobs and because he chose to. He was not forced into it. To say 'To help make a difference' is just oozing cheese.

Mormon? mmmm Are you inciting religious hatread?:smile: there's a Mormon church opposite one of the new stations in scunny, that only open office hours though. If you go to report a crime out of those hours you have to use an intercom to speak to police in Hull even though you can clearly see police inside. PS I'm agnostic not Mormon.

voted hot - I travel on trains regularly, some proper drunk/aggressive scum often sit nearby, the more off duty coppers onboard the better lol

#StandWithKeith

But do you get to sit on the train? I'm all for supporting my fallen colleague but not if it means standing up. Jeez...

Of course i'd say it to his face, you ****. And, i'd shake his hand. If you bothered to read my posts, you'd realise that i'm not dissing the police, i'm cold voting a pointless post, one that has not benefited anyone.

Hatread? :stuck_out_tongue:

http://www.policecouldyou.co.uk/police-officer/am-i-eligible/index.html

time to join up then fella and feel lucky

Scunny has no idea. If he did, he'd shut up. Nice to see my considerable taxes are paying for his subsidised transport. Just like he pays for my wages (or not) .

If you get it discounted - it's a benefit. Plus all the other benefits you may get, good for you, but my taxes pay for that.

This is a private company that has decided to help fellow officers show their respects for a fallen colleague. It's a shame that you're so small minded that you don't see that, but I get it, perhaps your life isn't so good and you may resent that. Fair enough.

I can guarantee your life is better than PC Palmers though. The thin blue line got a little thinner and without them you'd be in a worse position. So take a deep breath, remove your pre-conceived ideas and look at what is really being offered. After that, if you're still mean and annoyed, book an appointment at your GP. He/she can help you.

As a benefit, it should be legally declared for tax purposes. Lets see how many officers uphold the law in this instance. Just saying .....

No, it's not a benefit. the Chief Constables know of the free travel as it's widely publicised so there is no need to declare it plus HMRC do not want to know about this. Good try though.

I can't believe how many small minded comments I've read on this post. The police do a hard job putting themselves in danger on a daily basis with little or no thanks. How can anyone begrudge them free travel to pay respects to a fallen colleague. No one is saying the officer's life is worth more than the other poor souls who also died. Shame on you those who are trying to pick fault.

Irrelevant. My boss knows of my reserved parking space at work, but i still have to pay tax on it. Subsidised travel IS a benefit, is liable for taxation purposes and anyone receiving it is legally bound to declare it as such. Not doing so, would make a police officer an accessory after the fact. A dangerous line to go down. HMRC does not decide who is liable to pay tax, legislation does.

Apologies if I didn't put my point across more succinctly.

I don't care, and neither does anyone else. Apart from you.

Not sure how I feel about using this as a promotional opportunity. :-/

Please explain why you think this is a promotional opportunity.

Apology accepted. Just don't do it again.

I should have made it easier to read. It must have been difficult for you.

I tell you what, if your knickers are that much in a twist and your 'Boss' wouldn't like this sort of behaviour, please write a letter to HMRC and post it here so I know it's being queried. Then also post the response when you get it.

Or just re-evaluate your existence. Either is fine by me.

There is only one person here getting their knickers in a twist lol. I'm just sitting back, eating my popcorn and watching you take the worm. Some people just make it too easy though. Please try harder to resist, i prefer a challenge.

I think I would prefer Virgin not to be suing the NHS for lost contracts. But suspect that lost the best PR debate in the office Monday morning. Not voted, mainly because I don't know a broke copper.

London Underground, London buses, DLR, London overground and TfL rail services are also offering free travel to serving officers on 10th April.

​Police Officers get free train travel in my local area, they are paid to do a job, how many times has any travel company laid on free travel for the funeral service of a fallen service man or woman - the real heroes of this country not some Police Officer that barely see a threat to his/her life, and yes I do know what I'm talking about

​ummmm, their choice to do it, no one forced them to

Virgin didn't have to, but they did- and for that they deserve some respect!

How pathetic, you're backtracking now.

It's the same with grand central trains as well

No you don't. Stop being so mean spirited.

Very nice touch, but worth stating the obvious here. Similarly to not all armed forces personnel are heroes, neither are police. In the few occasions I have needed assistance of police, the people I have dealt with have been nothing short of incompetent, clueless fools.

One wonders why they didn't extend the offer to window cleaners, or Teachers/teaching assistants in recognitions of the other victims killed by the same Muslim.

Oh blimey, now here come the nutty 'freemen of the land' loons.......

Yeah we really need police on the trains, i had one once flash his badge at me and told me i couldn't use the toilet in first class (as he had seen me walk through from standard) he didn't care that the other was occupied. Keep up the good work boys in blue ;-)

Freedom is a mindset. Blimey is a great word. Copperface sounds like a cartoon criminal.

Utterly pathetic that anyone should disapprove of such a scheme. What has happened to our society? Time was when police officers commanded the respect of the community. Do the "naysayers" not fully comprehend that these gallant men and women put their necks on the line every day to protect the rest of us from vile psychopaths, paedophiles, terrorists, murderers, rapists etc. for utterly inadequate remuneration, whilst bankers gamble with our money on a daily basis and get bailed out by our elected government and business leaders screw us over on a daily basis. Let Virgin have their little bit of publicity from this - surely the "ends" justify the "means" in this case. Utterly appalled that anyone should vote "cold" - what a sick, self-centred society we live amongst today!

I liked this just for the fact that you made yourself look so freaking stupid with such an asinine comment.
You really need to give it up up and grow up.

Well Done Tobyaustin2017 A Nice sentiment heat added :sunglasses:

LOL, again I liked this because you make yourself look so daft. If you really want a challenge, try finding a friend.

The police contribute up to 14.25% of their salary for 30 years in order to buy that pension. In contrast, MP's get a much better pension for serving just one term as an MP and it's non-contributory. Civil servants contribute a lot less (or nothing) for their pensions. Do you contribute 14.25% for your pension?

Have you tried being a cop?

As someone truculently pointed out above.......... no one forced you to become a brick layer.

Nothing to do with this topic, but on your rant - Newspapers ??? Really ??? Toilet tissues are a bit more worth and would atleast be useful for something.

Heat added, nice gesture from Virgin

Pretend you're on a stag do dressed as a coppa

Can everybody just take a chill pill? Go outside it's beautiful weather!! <3

I think it would be a great thing if virgin gave out free RAIL tickets for everyone to attend the funerals of those who the police kill in the line of duty too..

Great sentiment but would be nice if Virgin and National Express did the same on Rememberance Day for current servicemen and women and veterans, that would be a really nice touch....
Go on, you know you want to!!!

I 100% know what I'm talking about

​don't contribute then, opt out from Police pension and get a private one!

I think some people are missing the point and some are making disrespectful comments which is not what this site is about.
I'm sure Keiths children would have loved for their dad to walk back through the door after his shift ended, but he didn't. He won't be the first or the last Police Officer, servicewoman or serviceman or adult or child that went out to one day and didn't come back. Their families can never say goodbye and this isn't a competition as to who has it the hardest, so let's be respectful and remember what this site is for.

I'm not going to take your word for it. You don't seem very balanced.

You come on here and moan about Police Officers in a thread about funeral arrangements for a fallen officer - perhaps you should reflect on this.

A facile comment which underlines your thoughts.

Yes this is a bargain/deal website, not a cheese fest.

It's just our rather sad society today who will put distasteful and ignorant comments about this. Virgin want to do it for the Police and good for them. Maybe it'll spur the other train companies to do the same. Not just for Police but others who die serving their country in different jobs. Shouldn't we be united?

There are good and bad Police officers, Army, Paramedics etc etc. By all accounts this bobby was one of the better ones, so let's support him and his family for his (ultimate) sacrifice.

Just let it go and say thanks Virgin.

Try being a robocop - the treatment that guy received was appalling. <3

​That is still not trolling, trolling has nothing to do with opinion.

If someone disagrees and is rude about it, they are just rude.

Realistically this is just feel good fodder for everyone and or a marketing ploy for the company, and also a karma grab for OP.

Let change our avatars whilst were at it to something related, may just fix some of this ****......