Richer Sounds have just dropped the price of this award winning AV Receiver to £349, which is the cheapest I've seen it.
Deal ends 20.04.17
'What Hi-Fi? award winner 2016'. 5-star review: "It's a superb sonic all-rounder and well-equipped with it." "It’s a polished performer that never fails to entertain".
Some spec highlights:
7.2 channel AV Receiver with 150W per channel: Enough power to fill medium size rooms with unique Denon sound Built-in WiFi with 2.4GHz/5GHz dual band support; built-in Bluetooth: Improved network stability especially in WiFi-crowded homes 4K/60 Hz full-rate pass-through, 4:4:4 colour resolution, HDR and BT.2020: Latest HDMI standard for future-proof compatibility 8 HDMI inputs (incl. 1 front) with full HDCP 2.2 support; 2 HDMI outputs: Plenty of inputs for your digital devices; ready to feed a TV and projector in parallel Advanced Video Processing with 4K Scaling for HDMI sources: Full HD and even Ultra HD video quality from existing DVDs or other digital video sources Dolby Atmos (up to 5.1.2) and DTS:X (via firmware update): Blockbusting 3D sound with effects from overhead AirPlay, Bluetooth, Internet Radio, Spotify Connect, Network Audio Streaming Access to almost unlimited online music sources DSD (2.8/5.6MHz), FLAC, ALAC, AIFF and WAV support: High Resolution audio streaming for HiFi enthusiasts, even gapless Audyssey MultEQ XT, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ: Delivering perfect equalization for your individual room Colour-coded speaker terminals, Setup Assistant, Denon 2016 AVR Remote App Hassle-free installation, setup and operation Intelligent ECO mode with off/on/auto setting: Energy-conscious without compromising on performance
Top comments
just1988
27 Apr 174#122
Also available on Hughes for £324 after applying £25 off code "maymad25" & also 4% cash back with quidco
cutthroat_jake to Babbler
13 Apr 173#11
I've gone for both! :wink:
All comments (203)
cutthroat_jake
13 Apr 17#1
fozed
13 Apr 172#2
Maybe time to throw out the Yamaha
sim11 to fozed
13 Apr 17#3
i was thinking the same but i also read that this has a different sound to the yamaha ..
krazie2004
13 Apr 17#4
It has 8 in and 2 out hdmi, does this mean it can split the signal say if I have a TV and projector setup?
cutthroat_jake to krazie2004
13 Apr 172#5
Yes
rustybin
13 Apr 17#6
Stupid question I'm sure, but could I keep my existing Onkyo speaker setup and just hook them up to this?
Babbler to rustybin
13 Apr 172#9
Yes
LOUGHBORO.GUY to rustybin
13 Apr 172#18
Yes
biddilybah to rustybin
13 Apr 172#19
That depends what system you have. Some of the Onkyo all in one systems will not work on this. You may blow the speakers or damage this amp if it is one of those systems. Surprised at people just saying yes to you, to be honest. :confused:
Which system do you have? :smiley:
ruc to rustybin
13 Apr 171#24
yes you can
Spikecast
13 Apr 17#7
Great amp, only paid £349 for mine last year but it's been great.
maciejkopec08
13 Apr 171#8
Got my Denon 2200 AVR 2 years ago for 299. Absolutely love it. Highly recommend this company.
Babbler
13 Apr 17#10
Been waiting for price drop on this... very very tempting... but its this or a 4k tv... decisions decisions...
cutthroat_jake to Babbler
13 Apr 173#11
I've gone for both! :wink:
Babbler
13 Apr 17#12
Get superfi to beat it by £2 and get 2 yeat warrantee as standard :smiley:
Babbler
13 Apr 17#13
If only I had the money eh?
davver99
13 Apr 17#14
any others around this price worth looking at i had a denon before but dont like the ui much
any ONKYO TXNR656 ? or other recommendations
calvin21 to davver99
13 Apr 17#27
I recently bought this. I was gonna get the 656 but HDCP 2.2 on all hdmi inputs on the denon swung it for me. If you're getting and av receiver for 4k look at this or the onkyo 676
snoopy18
13 Apr 171#15
Great price, was hoping the avr3300 was going to drop a bit more.
This or the 3300?
rev6 to snoopy18
13 Apr 17#23
The X3300W obviously for XT32 :laughing:
Depends on your setup.
SilverBandit
13 Apr 171#16
Yep.
Bought mine just before Xmas and love the sound, the remote control app and that I can get internet radio on it! :smiley:
dush_yant
13 Apr 17#17
BTW anyone knows why RS doesn't sell the Denon's sister Marantz model? The only Marantz AVRs they have are the two slimline NR models, not the standard SR models.
sprite127594
13 Apr 17#20
Think i would sooner have the Yamaha 681 for 50 quid more just for musiccast alone
adam0812 to sprite127594
13 Apr 17#22
That's what I got, very happy.
jonboyuk to sprite127594
13 Apr 171#25
Nah, the Yamaha (although great) only has 5 HDMI ports, 1 out and only 3 are HDCP 2.2. This Denon has 2 HDMI out ports and 8 in, all of which are HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0a compatible. Depends what you need I guess.
adam0812
13 Apr 17#21
Got an atmos receiver recently and hooked it up to my PC. BF1 with atmos sound is something else.
calvin21
13 Apr 171#26
Me too!
minkyman
13 Apr 17#28
Are Denon products reliable? I have an Onkyo which has given up the ghost after only 3 years so reluctant to get another (even though sound was good). Yamaha, Denon or Pioneer (slightly worried about latter as now owned by Onkyo). One key factor always missing from reviews - reliability!
rev6 to minkyman
13 Apr 172#29
Get the 6 year warranty and don't worry about it :smiley:
LOUGHBORO.GUY to minkyman
13 Apr 17#30
I have had a Denon 350SE amp for 20 years still sounds fab with my Pioneer PDS 802 stable platter CD player and JPW Sonata speakers
Bogroll.Warlord
13 Apr 17#31
Looks like a couch.
Latterman
13 Apr 171#32
Been looking at this amp for a while, excellent spec for the price! Not going to bite just yet though.
Thoughtful
13 Apr 171#33
German website HiFiTest found that this puny receiver was only capable of 100W across 5 channels into 8 Ohms. This is simply not enough for any realistic home cinema and you would be better spending your money on a soundbar instead.
rev6 to Thoughtful
13 Apr 17#34
It got pretty damn loud in my tests, 3 channel. I think it's perfectly fine for 6 ohm or higher.
5Rivers79 to Thoughtful
13 Apr 17#35
Which receiver would you recommend for around the same price or a little more?
The Pioneer VSX1131 is quite feature packed. Comparing with music though, I'd say the Denon is slightly too bright, and the Pioneer lacked dynamics and clarity for me, hard to explain what I heard. If I had to choose, it would be the Denon, as it supports Audyssey and all HDMI's are HDCP 2.2 compliant.
Nothing against Pioneer though for the price.
modelman
13 Apr 17#37
Yes but those were the days when amps were made to last and weighed a ton due to quality transformers, inductors and capacitors and no plastic. And these were just 2 channel stereo amps rated around 100w rms.
rev6
13 Apr 17#38
Yeah. These have a lot more to go wrong :smile:
craigtumilty
13 Apr 171#40
same price at Peter Tyson with 3 year warranty
jaykay1975
13 Apr 17#41
Thanks, just purchased from PT hope it arrives over the weekend so I can get it all rigged up over the bank holiday.
DrManhattan
13 Apr 171#42
yes
tjc2005
14 Apr 17#43
I've got one of these, drives me mad turning on the PS4 all the time when you turn the denon on, my old sony str-dn840 never did this and that was ARC. So much so I've had to turn off the HDMI device link in the ps4 settings...
A shame because I used to like to control it with my tv remote. Not sure why it has to send a signal to the ps4 to turn on when I'm not even selecting that input.
mission701
14 Apr 171#44
Looks better than that non-brand Onkyo tosh you can buy!
DudleyGuy
14 Apr 171#45
I'd probably upgrade your speakers to be fair, it's like putting cheap unheard of Chinese tyres on a new bmw!
akexuk
14 Apr 17#46
I need a new amp but I am not going to use atmos. I wonder whether I should go for this or if I'd be wasting money for a feature I will never use. I need connectivity and quality output. Don't need atmos nor all those inputs and two outputs.
The yamahas have also been marked down
faintaxis
14 Apr 17#47
I would never buy another pioneer even if I was paid to. My VSX 931 (I think that was the model number) was gutless, and the "smart features" died after a year (network controller lost its MAC address and couldn't be seen on the network)
faintaxis
14 Apr 17#48
Great deal, have some heat!
rev6
14 Apr 17#49
Did you get it sorted out?
Istanbul_Kop
15 Apr 17#50
In what way, I've always loved the sound of Yamahas, and have returned other brands because of the way they sound.
rev6
15 Apr 17#51
The Yamaha RX-A660 and the Denon X3300 sounded quite similar to me. I'd say the Yamaha may have the edge in bass reproduction (in stereo tests) but the difference is small. I prefer the Yamaha GUI.
faintaxis
15 Apr 17#52
Nope, didn't take the super care so just sold it on. The rest of it worked, just the network stuff broke. Got an Onkyo to replace it :smiley:
MrDMan
16 Apr 17#53
Anyone know if the firmware update to support Dolby Vision and HLG is out for this yet? Would get it but want to be future proof!
cutthroat_jake
16 Apr 17#54
If your TV supports Dolby Vision you won't need this.
If not, I read that the update won't arrive until late 2017 or early 2018 (source).
MrDMan
16 Apr 17#55
You will if you want to pass everything through the denon i.e 4k bluray player. I know most come with 2 HDMI outs so you can get round the receiver not supporting DV but best that it does I think
jumpinoffthbed
16 Apr 17#56
i don't understand why people have everything going through the amp, why not just have your tv as the source? doesn't the tv pass on the full quality sound from a bluray player? I'd be grateful if someone could explain what I'm missing.
MrDMan
16 Apr 171#57
The tv will pass on most things but not Master HD audio and I doubt Atmos either. So you limit to 5.1 if you connect straight to the tv and then use ARC or optical to the receiver
rev6
16 Apr 17#58
As above. And most TV's don't have 8 HDMI inputs.
MrDMan
16 Apr 17#59
Indeed. However I always wonder why people need so many, sky, blue ray player, Xbox, PlayStation, Google chrome cast, Apple tv I can't think of many more things I could need to connect!
rev6
16 Apr 17#60
PC, Android box/stick, etc. Not many will need 8 but a lot of TV's have 3 or 4.
krazie2004
16 Apr 17#61
This is the first time I have purchased an AV receiver. Can anyone please recommend a decent 5.1 speaker set for £200ish?
How bizarre a £200 amp can pass on 4k visual but a £1000 tv can't pass on lossless audio
jumpinoffthbed
16 Apr 17#64
if I've got 2 big floor speakers I want to use do you have any recommendations on speakers to add to make a nice 5 speaker setup
rev6
16 Apr 17#65
Which are they? You'd want to try pair them properly as if they have different sound signatures it won't be as enjoyable.
jumpinoffthbed
16 Apr 17#66
not a big brand unfortunately, they're called omni audio and 200w each.. how do I know what they'll pair with?
IWANTBLUE
17 Apr 17#67
Not that bizarre when the amp is intended/designed to go between the source and the End output, be that TV /projector etc.. and that £1k Tv is the 'end output' so not "necessarily " expected to pass anything else on...
jumpinoffthbed
18 Apr 17#68
well they make soundbars to use with their tv's so that's not exactly true
IWANTBLUE
18 Apr 17#69
ut the soundbar can be in front of the TV connected by ARC surely? I'm not arguing with you.. just pointing out that one is an in-between product by design,(as well as outputting the sound obviously :wink: the other is and END Output device, not sure why you want to argue that point really but hey .. up to you :smiley: Was only making the point , you dont have to agree with me :P
akexuk
21 Apr 17#70
Why expired? Still available
mikax7x
26 Apr 171#71
Damn you. This made me to consider upgrade from 5 year old Onkyo. After long investigation ended up buying Denon AVRX4300H from Peter Tyson. Then had to buy additional speakers for Atmos and realised my subwoofer is making horrible humming noise even when not connected to anywhere.
So inspired by this post I ended up upgrading most of my AV system :smile:
oldskoolpug
26 Apr 171#72
A soundbar...... You are very very wrong dear friend, go and have a word with yourself
oldskoolpug
26 Apr 17#73
Check Hdmi control settings on your PS4.........
markwigg
26 Apr 17#74
I have this reciever, 5.1 for home cinema and then a second zone utilising the remaining two outputs.
No issues, great receiver, brilliant for Spotify with 'Spotify Connect' and excellent mobile app to control it from (in addition to traditional remote).
Excellent Price.
loadsavmoney
26 Apr 17#75
Thanks a lot op but i already payed £400 >:disappointed:
I hate this site sometimes :laughing:
loadsavmoney
26 Apr 17#76
i have this too, can we play both zones at the same time? i haven't tried yet
It seems this is a media player. But how well does it do this? The media players in my Samsung Tv are not able to decode some streams, whereas external media players (android based) are.
bouttime2
26 Apr 17#82
I have the AVR-X2100W and it is fantastic! I paid £299 a couple of years ago and will be buying an AVR-X2300W when the price comes down to £299, purely for the HDR support which our new TV has.
tazg101
26 Apr 17#83
There are restrictions on zone 2 however. Check manual before purchasing
TwistedNerve
26 Apr 17#84
look at the back of each system... my onkyo has clips and screw-ins for the wires, but this Denon has jack plugs for the subwoofer by the look of it
mattoligy
26 Apr 17#85
I've been considering purchasing this amp in the package deal that includes the Q Acoustic 3000 series 5.1 speaker setup for £869 Any thoughts on if this is a good beginners setup to pair with an LG OLED?
I was considering just purchasing it all separately starting with the Denon amp and 3010 fronts before upgrading the system with the sub woofer, center and rears... I've also spotted the 3050s now though and not sure if I would still need a sub. Then there's the neighbours to consider... Confused.
jay452
26 Apr 17#86
I've got this. Great bit of kit! Go for it at this price.
sparklehedgehog
26 Apr 17#87
Wish they'd use the bluetooth / wifi to enable the HEOS speakers to act as rears for my surround sound. Must be doable with firmware
RJ1
26 Apr 17#88
Could this be used as both an amp for a hifi and home cinema without compromising on sound? I would use this primarily as a hifi and then occasionally for connecting to my Xbox one S for playing 4k blu rays.
swerverdude
26 Apr 17#89
ive just ordered the Onkyo Atmos speakers from Amazon France for 78 quid including delivery !!!
Should finish my setup nicely
Meathotukdeals
26 Apr 172#90
Holy Smokes. My Marantz (PM45 from waaay back in 1986ish) has just popped and I saw this and clicked on but this is ....WTF??... HDMIs? Bluetooth? Network something? :confused:
Errrr is it bi-wireable as that is how my speakers are and I chucked the bridge so that is how they will stay. And and does it take ye olde fashioned connectors for my CD player. People still use cd players right?
(The PM45 was an amplifier).
EDIT Seems my set up is bi amped / bi wired. Can these doobreys deal with that?
magicpork
26 Apr 17#91
Had this for just about 6 months...been using with Tannoy speakers and it works very well.
I do have one very odd issue though..the Denon turns off automatically whenever I play Diablo III on my PS4 for more than half an hour.. :s .. this is odd because it never happens outside of D3 even when I turn up the volume to a much higher level.
linhang90
26 Apr 17#92
seems to be £350 everywehre
k9plus1
26 Apr 17#93
even stupider question - what does this do ?
Tony68k
26 Apr 17#94
...yes, it's better. I had a slightly cheap Yamaha than swapped it for this and I'm so pleased I did. This is such an excellent piece of kit.
Dellsy
26 Apr 17#95
Love this amp
Scottola
26 Apr 17#96
I have this amp, it's great, I use spotify connect on it a lot now, also bluetooth linked upto an Amazon Echo. No complaints from me. Set up with those Q Acoustics speakers another thread made me buy!
RJ1
26 Apr 17#97
Would you recommend this for use as a hi-fi amp? Thx
monty9120
26 Apr 17#98
im still running my 1991 denon amp also have an early denon receiver
does anyone know if there independent still or owned by another company
hunterross
26 Apr 17#99
Bought this around a week ago and its fantastic (sound engineer here). I have one hack for those that dont have Spotify premium as its required to stream directly to the amp from the Spotify mobile apps. You can get a chromecast for your TV and Spotify will stream to that from any device without Spotiy premium :wink:
tj200
26 Apr 17#100
I'm thinking about the same package as you. I've found the denon 2300 with the 3050 package (just swaps out one pair of the 3010 with a pair of 3050) for £1150.
Not sure whether to go for that or to buy them separately. Buying separate costs £1277 in total.
I think you will still need a subwoofer but heard the Q acoustics 3070S isn't the best can anybody confirm?
harrysj
26 Apr 17#101
I have bose passive speakers. Would these work with this please?
eshtal
26 Apr 17#102
can i use this with a soundbar ?
Sid.Harper
26 Apr 17#103
But can it play the piano?
Sid.Harper
26 Apr 17#104
Then you'd have to sort out delay compensation between both them and the video. Not so easy to just do.
Sid.Harper
26 Apr 17#105
Arc is hit and miss for starters
moneysavingkitten
26 Apr 171#106
I feel where you coming from... I need to replace a Denon PMA 350 MKII which is probably about that age! Even more confused about what to replace my B&W speakers with.
Yeah I saw that package with the 3050s as well, kinda feel like it could be a little over the top for a surround sound setup though lol
In terms of the sub, coming from TV speakers and taking my neighbours into consideration I'm wondering if I can do without... I wonder if I need a dedicated speaker for the bottom end on 5.1 or if the five will pick up the lows alone without the sub.
Daytrader
26 Apr 17#110
Did not think BF1 supported Atmos.
adam0812
26 Apr 17#111
That and SW Battlefront are the only ones I know. Overwatch has headphone atmos but I think that is just some sort of simulation.
Daytrader
26 Apr 17#112
Thats great news, i use my av amp for all my PC games in 5.1, but its a old av amp, getting the yamaha 681 soon, for atmos.
Babbler
26 Apr 17#113
Onkyo atmos amp reduced this weekend to £299. Decisions decisions....
adam0812
26 Apr 171#114
Same, I run a hdmi cable through the wall from my study into my amp and living room tv for when I want to kick back on the couch but still with the grunt of a PC behind my games, its great :smiley:
rev6
26 Apr 17#115
Only 3 HDCP 2.2 inputs if it matters to you.
sJohnson23
27 Apr 171#116
It acts as a hub for all your connections (e.g. Sky, Blu-ray, Chromecast, etc) and drives sound to your speakers (up to eight of them). It also provides smart technology so you can use your Spotify to play music through the speakers.
Basically combine it with a decent TV and a set of speakers (see some recommendations in the comments) for a home cinema.
SCOOBY_666UK
27 Apr 17#117
How does this compare to the Sony DN1060 (excluding ATMOS - which I won't be using)?
Hodgey
27 Apr 17#118
Bought one last year (£399) am I'm pleased with it. I had to change to accomodate 4k.
The only grizzle is that the previous Yamaha receiver could be used to switch between sources without turning on the receiver, this Denon switches automatically switches on when a changing sources. I don't think this can be stopped.
Excellent sound, though.
Heat added.
aibon
27 Apr 17#119
Sonically my Yamaha DSP AX640SE still kicks like a mule, Especially with the 12" Yamaha Sub, Just a pain that its not hdmi, I cant justify 350 quid for better connectivity though. Heat for a great amp though.
dazsti
27 Apr 171#120
IiThis amp is more at home with a tv/games console, if u like the sound of Marantz just get a new amp like the PM5005 (£150 from Richer) it has 2sets of speaker outputs like your old amp so no messing about with the amp end of cables (2into1) has cd phono plugs and a remote as a billy bonus.
Babbler
27 Apr 17#121
At the moment I dont have any HDCP sources apart from XBOX one S... as I have a very old TV (at least 7 years old lmao) and old onkyo amp so not that bothered about that... but may be in the future so may opt for this one. Thanks.
just1988
27 Apr 174#122
Also available on Hughes for £324 after applying £25 off code "maymad25" & also 4% cash back with quidco
jasee
27 Apr 17#123
Unlikely, probably you mean phono (rca) sockets or even banana sockets
slannmage
27 Apr 17#124
Why is this so cheap when my 90 watt per channel amp is 700 quid and doesn't do video?
michaeljb
27 Apr 17#125
aww s**t tom i thought it included the speakers
pannan
27 Apr 17#126
think i'd prefer Richer's 6 year guarantee than saving £2
I don't understand this. I had a stereo 35w per channel Rotel amp 40 years ago that I used in a large hall. It gave out crystal clear sound to the point that if it was turned up louder you would not hear each other speak. If this amp has the power claimed, you would be deaf in no time at those volumes in a 'medium size room'.
bren26
27 Apr 17#131
Can anyone tell me the difference between this & the 2200w?
Babbler
27 Apr 17#132
You have to pay an extra £35 for 5 year guarantee with RS though... not included in price. Only 1 year as standard. TVs have 6.
Babbler
27 Apr 17#133
Always get reduced before / when newer models are released on an annual basis.
Babbler
27 Apr 17#134
Ex display... pay the extra for new imo.
thespiderpig
27 Apr 171#135
Didnt realise it was ex display - agreed ;-)
dankeech
27 Apr 171#136
Hi, actually I wouldn't just give a simple yes on this answer - Best that the Rustybin posts what Onkyo speakers they have. If they're standard Hifi/AV type speakers with correct (standard) impedance yes, but if they're from an all-in-one system they may well have a completely different impedance and therefore not be suitable for connecting to a standard AV receiver, and only the original equipment.
markwigg
27 Apr 171#137
Yes you can with different or same inputs. (you can only use zone 2 for analogue or online inputs, I just use online).
bren26
27 Apr 17#138
Nothing on their website?
Babbler
27 Apr 17#139
Not on their site anymore?
paulj48
27 Apr 17#140
OP was asking about the 2 HDMI out's these are just mirrored and are not zonal, so yes you can attach a TV and projector in the same room, the 2nd zone is audio services only.
loadsavmoney
27 Apr 17#141
you should update your profile pic, it'll be worthless soon :smile:
paulstevenson
27 Apr 17#142
Brought this back in March from RS for £349
Gortraney
27 Apr 17#143
Got this a few weeks ago for dual TV / Projector setup. Waiting to set it up with Monitor Audio Mass 5:1 system.
5Rivers79
27 Apr 17#144
Is this worth the saving over the 4300h? Looking for a silver avr and this is only in black.
pannan
27 Apr 17#145
ANd you get this back if you don't end up using it, no?
Sorry if been asked before , if I input sky hd into the amp , could it be watched in 2 rooms with the 2hdmi outputs ? Sorry if it's a daft question. I run sky to a 2nd room using coax cable at the mo and pic is poor
Mariussx
27 Apr 17#148
This or Pioneer VSX-1131? I want to start it with Kef Q500 first and add the surround later.
Babbler
27 Apr 17#149
I know - would prefer this in silver! (current one is silver). Not sure - guess depends if you need the extra features given by that amp.
meherenow
27 Apr 17#150
I bought this on Black Friday last year and I just swapped my bi wired fronts over from my old Sony and they work fine (after going into the settings and telling it you want bi wired obv.).
Also this means you are restricted to 5.1 sound...
All in all it's a great amp, however I am having some trouble with DLNA and it seeing my other devices, and my computer seeing the amp over the network.
I am going to do a full reset on it, hopefully that will fix it, but from what I have read some others have had to have the network module replaced.
Nevo78
27 Apr 17#151
Guess youve never tried Onkyo then.
89quidyoucantgowrong
27 Apr 17#152
Can anyone who already has this receiver confirm the capabilities of the second HDMI output? Is it a 'Zone 2'? Can it be configured to output a different source to the main HDMI out? Is it passive or active, so will it output the selected source even when the receiver is powered down to standby? Thanks in advance.
paulj48
27 Apr 17#153
Possibly but not ideal, you need an amp with zonal HMDI, this is just a HDMI mirror.
With this amp you would get the TV picture in the other room but the sound would be coming out of the speakers in the main room, I suppose you could manually switch the speakers off in the main room and change the sound processing to 'passthrough' each time but this would also restrict viewing in the main room.
Sniffer77
27 Apr 17#154
Ahh right , yeah passthrough I was looking for so amp could be in standby when watching TV in diff rooms(I know same Chanel )
Seems like it's not an option then
sansrans
27 Apr 17#155
100W 5 channels driven at 8 ohm is an excellent result at this price. Unless you have a giant room or hard to drive speakers with low sensitivity, 100W is more than enough for most home cinema/audio use. Will be plenty loud without distortion. The THX recommendation is peak volumes up to 105dB for cinema - for speakers with 90dB sensitivity, that would equate to ~32W at 2m from speakers in a multiple speaker setup.
scribbler
27 Apr 17#156
I couldn't fit this in the cabinet below my tv due to the size its a big old beast even bigger than my old Sony STR-DG820
So i went for the Marantz NR1607. Its Slimline dimensions make it perfect for placement and the sound i found better than the Denon. So for anyone wanting an Atmos AVR alternative to the massive denon the Marantz is very good. Its similar price and huge saving at the minute from Richersounds.
meherenow
27 Apr 17#157
I know that it does not send audio down the HDMI zone 2, only video because I've tried that. It's all in the manual IIRC, you'd be better taking a look at that.
Meathotukdeals
27 Apr 171#158
Thank you. :smiley:
Daytrader
27 Apr 17#159
Lol of people here dont understand stuff, a 60watt amp can cost £1000's and a 150watt amp can cost £100, size of watts has nothing to do with quality, all these cheap amps are not even analogue, need to spend more to get that quality(my 20 yearold yamaha dspa1 blows all these amps out the water, just missing all the new digital stuff), so dont get stuck on thinking bigger wattage equal better amps.
Remember: watts is not better. More watts can be louder. If you have a 50 watt amplifier and all else being equal, an amp rated at 100 watts will be 3 decibals louder. 3db is barely audible.
cdm22
27 Apr 17#160
It my one annoyance too. I wish you could change source input wthout first having to turn on the Denon.
ykhan16
27 Apr 17#161
I have a Denon and its a great amp but i have to agree with Daytrader- the Yamaha I had years and years ago definitely sounded better. Its unfortunate but I had to upgrade- having an old amp just isnt feasible nowadays in the digital/HDMI environment.
Incidentally £349 is a typical price for a 1 year old mid range Denon. I remember last year the 2200W was £350 around this time as well.
avalon50
27 Apr 17#162
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avalon50
27 Apr 17#163
I have a Pioneer VSX930 which I bought in January last year, and although this looks the job, I couldn't justify spending £349 on another AV amplifier.
mastablasta
27 Apr 17#164
Get a projector instead.
cyvi937
27 Apr 171#165
What's with the "Deal ends 20.04.17" bit? That was seven days ago.
Daytrader
27 Apr 17#166
Yeh i am annoyed i am having to upgrade to get hdmi/atmos/4k and all the other stuff, my amp cost me like £1500 20 years ago, so i know my next £500 av amp aint going to sound as good, but i need all this new stuff, and i aint going to pay £3000+ to get the equivalent av amp to what i have now.
clashpie
27 Apr 17#167
Another superb offer from RicherSounds and at a great price.
markwigg
27 Apr 171#168
Done :smiley:
89quidyoucantgowrong
27 Apr 17#169
Thanks. No audio on HDMI 2 is a deal breaker for me, although I find that odd. Wish I'd taken the plunge on the Pioneer VSX930 when RS had them on offer a year or two back.
avalon50
27 Apr 17#170
That is what I have and I love it, as it is plenty good enough for me.
digipeep
27 Apr 171#171
Do they make these things any larger? Missus said I can't have one as it is not big enough!!
just1988
27 Apr 17#172
They must of sold out, ordered mine this morning
Hodgey
27 Apr 17#173
After I posted the original comment I decided to have yet another read of the manual.
On page 169 under RC Source Select there are two choices. Power On + Source (default) and Source Select Only.
I tried the second option and it worked.
Amazing what you can find in the early hours.
paulj48
27 Apr 17#174
I have a VSX930 and apart from only having HDCP2.2 on 3 outputs rather than all the outputs the Pioneer has more features than this Denon, the Pioneer has true multizone on the 2 HDMI outputs, I can watch any combination of sources in my lounge and kitchen through the VSX930, the Pioneer also allows you to change the HDMI passthrough input whilst in standby via the remote on the fly, something useful the Denon doesn't do.
Looking to see how much it would cost for a Amp and speaker set should I wish to replace a Sony DavZ220 surround unit I have. Would the jump in sound quality be much noticeable ?
I'm already using Source Select Only (at least i'm pretty damn sure I am) and you still have to turn the Denon on if you want to switch from, for example, CBL/SAT to watching a blu-ray and having the sound coming from the TV rather than the speakers. Will have to check again tonight when I get home.
indie24
27 Apr 171#178
Don't forget that this amp is getting updated for HLG and dolby vision pass through later this year.
Magila
27 Apr 17#179
does the receiver actually draw 500 Watts when in use?
WhoThrowsAShoe
27 Apr 17#180
Does anyone know what this does with regard to HDMI handshaking and resolution ? For example if HDMI 1 is a 4K HDR TV and HDMI 2 is a 1080p projector will it downscale to the lowest common denominator or is it effectively 2 independent outputs that can run at entirely different resolutions ?
paulj48
27 Apr 17#181
no, otherwise it would cost a fortune to run
and as its actually supposed to be 7 channels X 150 watts then that would be 1050 watts.
craigallison2010
27 Apr 17#182
I have one of these. First "proper" amp that I've ever owned and I'm delighted with it. Films are amazing now. It was easy to set up and works a treat. Just need a detached house to make the most of the output with my monitor audio speakers now!
baz84
27 Apr 17#183
I have an onkyo txnr-646 which is great and seems to Stand up against the denon from what I've seen so far but yet I'm still very very tempted by this!
The HUKD effect
jsw72
1 May 17#184
I tried this but switched to the Onkyo 656. Personally, I prefer the sound of the Onkyo but maybe it's my speakers and room which are a better match.
Whuelse
2 May 17#185
I have found them to be very reliable. Too reliable in fact :smirk:.
I am looking at this 2300W and got innumerable technical excuses to get it but not a practical excuse as the current Denon is still doing brilliantly after @12 years. :confused:
Makkand
3 May 17#186
OK you guys, I'm renovating my house, I'm on a budget as always, I've already plastered (like a clever clogs that I am) and I am thinking about putting speakers in each room for music streaming. I've seen something to do with Ethernet speakers!? Does anyone know anything about this?
Makkand
3 May 17#187
What did you have before using the AV receiver? I am using old 5.1 PC speakers that work fine, but I'm dubious about moving to next stage.
absami
4 May 17#188
What is the major difference between AVRX2300W and AVRX3300W? Is it worth buying?
flagstaff19651
11 May 171#189
I asked the same question on av forums .... the 2300 is as good as the 3300 The next upstep would be 4300 (The 3300 only has minor differences to the 2300 and not really worth the extra)
I 'think' I'm Ordering the 4300 ..... cracking deal at RS as usual !!
ICTHUS
14 May 17#190
You can get Audio and Video convertors that run over Ethernet cabling
Makkand
15 May 17#191
Oh..that's what it is!? Thank you.
jram
17 May 17#192
Does it match well with Dali Zensor1 5.1 / Q Acoustics 3000i 5.1 speakers? Among these 2 speakers which one is good, please?
hcc27
25 May 17#193
I'd actually prefer to pay the 10% to RicherSounds and go for their 6y SuperCare. 6 quid a year for 5 years isn't much for this kind of sterling guarantee, and keep in mind this receiver is well future-proof.
Sp00n
25 May 17#194
Great deal and you can't go wrong with Richer Sounds service!
cicobuff
25 May 17#195
I have the previous years VSX-924 as a RS warranty replacement to a borked Yamaha RX-V675 and pleasantly surprised by its sonics. After owning a variety of manufacturers receivers over the years including Denon, Yamaha, Sony, Marantz, and Sherwood I find matched with my Mission speakers it to be the most articulate with music.
I do still have 3 years left in its extended warranty and have no desire to want to change from it, and when I do I will consider Pioneer again. Only criticisms I have is with the rather confusing menu system, not the easiest receiver to set up to get the most out of, and Pioneer's lack of supporting firmware updates. Build quality, high end Sabre DAC, sound quality and a surprisingly low running temperature make it one of, if not the best receiver I have owned over the years.
jram
25 May 17#196
Why is the volume quite low? In my old receiver, the volume is very high even in turn the volume knob only half.
I noticed this too compared to my old Denon 1909! I tried upping the source increase (not volume) to no avail. Same speakers etc. Didn't find a solution so interested if anyone has. Latest firmware is installed too.
Babbler
26 May 17#200
£329.99 now! Even more tempting!!
Reading1800
24 Jun 17#201
Even cheaper £329.00 :smiley:
jumpinoffthbed
29 Jun 17#202
According to what hi-fi it's a massive step up and well worth the extra money..
jumpinoffthbed
29 Jun 17#203
According to what hi-fi it's a massive step up and well worth the extra money.. review here
Opening post
Deal ends 20.04.17
'What Hi-Fi? award winner 2016'. 5-star review:
"It's a superb sonic all-rounder and well-equipped with it."
"It’s a polished performer that never fails to entertain".
Some spec highlights:
7.2 channel AV Receiver with 150W per channel: Enough power to fill medium size rooms with unique Denon sound
Built-in WiFi with 2.4GHz/5GHz dual band support; built-in Bluetooth: Improved network stability especially in WiFi-crowded homes
4K/60 Hz full-rate pass-through, 4:4:4 colour resolution, HDR and BT.2020: Latest HDMI standard for future-proof compatibility
8 HDMI inputs (incl. 1 front) with full HDCP 2.2 support; 2 HDMI outputs: Plenty of inputs for your digital devices; ready to feed a TV and projector in parallel
Advanced Video Processing with 4K Scaling for HDMI sources: Full HD and even
Ultra HD video quality from existing DVDs or other digital video sources
Dolby Atmos (up to 5.1.2) and DTS:X (via firmware update): Blockbusting 3D sound with effects from overhead
AirPlay, Bluetooth, Internet Radio, Spotify Connect, Network Audio Streaming
Access to almost unlimited online music sources
DSD (2.8/5.6MHz), FLAC, ALAC, AIFF and WAV support: High Resolution audio streaming for HiFi enthusiasts, even gapless
Audyssey MultEQ XT, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ: Delivering perfect equalization for your individual room
Colour-coded speaker terminals, Setup Assistant, Denon 2016 AVR Remote App
Hassle-free installation, setup and operation
Intelligent ECO mode with off/on/auto setting: Energy-conscious without compromising on performance
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Which system do you have? :smiley:
any ONKYO TXNR656 ? or other recommendations
This or the 3300?
Depends on your setup.
Bought mine just before Xmas and love the sound, the remote control app and that I can get internet radio on it! :smiley:
https://www.hifitest.de/test/av-receiver/denon-avr-x2300w_12800-seite3
Nothing against Pioneer though for the price.
Yes but those were the days when amps were made to last and weighed a ton due to quality transformers, inductors and capacitors and no plastic. And these were just 2 channel stereo amps rated around 100w rms.
A shame because I used to like to control it with my tv remote. Not sure why it has to send a signal to the ps4 to turn on when I'm not even selecting that input.
The yamahas have also been marked down
If not, I read that the update won't arrive until late 2017 or early 2018 (source).
http://www.richersounds.com/products/hi-fi-separates/speakers/speaker-packages
I'm not arguing with you.. just pointing out that one is an in-between product by design,(as well as outputting the sound obviously :wink: the other is and END Output device, not sure why you want to argue that point really but hey .. up to you :smiley: Was only making the point , you dont have to agree with me :P
So inspired by this post I ended up upgrading most of my AV system :smile:
No issues, great receiver, brilliant for Spotify with 'Spotify Connect' and excellent mobile app to control it from (in addition to traditional remote).
Excellent Price.
I hate this site sometimes :laughing:
https://www.richersounds.com/product/av-receivers/onkyo/txnr656/onky-txnr656-blk
Save £250. should be £549.
I was considering just purchasing it all separately starting with the Denon amp and 3010 fronts before upgrading the system with the sub woofer, center and rears... I've also spotted the 3050s now though and not sure if I would still need a sub. Then there's the neighbours to consider... Confused.
Should finish my setup nicely
Errrr is it bi-wireable as that is how my speakers are and I chucked the bridge so that is how they will stay. And and does it take ye olde fashioned connectors for my CD player. People still use cd players right?
(The PM45 was an amplifier).
EDIT Seems my set up is bi amped / bi wired. Can these doobreys deal with that?
I do have one very odd issue though..the Denon turns off automatically whenever I play Diablo III on my PS4 for more than half an hour.. :s .. this is odd because it never happens outside of D3 even when I turn up the volume to a much higher level.
does anyone know if there independent still or owned by another company
Not sure whether to go for that or to buy them separately. Buying separate costs £1277 in total.
I think you will still need a subwoofer but heard the Q acoustics 3070S isn't the best can anybody confirm?
get speakers that attach to the ceiling, a lot better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXLQ4mIwyAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GudeBM9n4GU
In terms of the sub, coming from TV speakers and taking my neighbours into consideration I'm wondering if I can do without... I wonder if I need a dedicated speaker for the bottom end on 5.1 or if the five will pick up the lows alone without the sub.
Basically combine it with a decent TV and a set of speakers (see some recommendations in the comments) for a home cinema.
The only grizzle is that the previous Yamaha receiver could be used to switch between sources without turning on the receiver, this Denon switches automatically switches on when a changing sources. I don't think this can be stopped.
Excellent sound, though.
Heat added.
Also this means you are restricted to 5.1 sound...
http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX2300W/EU/EN/WBSPSYtweharpi.php
All in all it's a great amp, however I am having some trouble with DLNA and it seeing my other devices, and my computer seeing the amp over the network.
I am going to do a full reset on it, hopefully that will fix it, but from what I have read some others have had to have the network module replaced.
With this amp you would get the TV picture in the other room but the sound would be coming out of the speakers in the main room, I suppose you could manually switch the speakers off in the main room and change the sound processing to 'passthrough' each time but this would also restrict viewing in the main room.
Seems like it's not an option then
So i went for the Marantz NR1607. Its Slimline dimensions make it perfect for placement and the sound i found better than the Denon. So for anyone wanting an Atmos AVR alternative to the massive denon the Marantz is very good. Its similar price and huge saving at the minute from Richersounds.
Remember: watts is not better. More watts can be louder. If you have a 50 watt amplifier and all else being equal, an amp rated at 100 watts will be 3 decibals louder. 3db is barely audible.
Incidentally £349 is a typical price for a 1 year old mid range Denon. I remember last year the 2200W was £350 around this time as well.
The link gives this now:
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We are sorry you can't find the page you are looking for. Please click on http://www.ssav.com to return to our homepage.
On page 169 under RC Source Select there are two choices. Power On + Source (default) and Source Select Only.
I tried the second option and it worked.
Amazing what you can find in the early hours.
Looking to see how much it would cost for a Amp and speaker set should I wish to replace a Sony DavZ220 surround unit I have. Would the jump in sound quality be much noticeable ?
and as its actually supposed to be 7 channels X 150 watts then that would be 1050 watts.
The HUKD effect
I am looking at this 2300W and got innumerable technical excuses to get it but not a practical excuse as the current Denon is still doing brilliantly after @12 years. :confused:
I 'think' I'm Ordering the 4300 ..... cracking deal at RS as usual !!
I do still have 3 years left in its extended warranty and have no desire to want to change from it, and when I do I will consider Pioneer again. Only criticisms I have is with the rather confusing menu system, not the easiest receiver to set up to get the most out of, and Pioneer's lack of supporting firmware updates. Build quality, high end Sabre DAC, sound quality and a surprisingly low running temperature make it one of, if not the best receiver I have owned over the years.
Good time to grab a bargain.
https://www.audiblefidelity.co.uk/products/denon-avr-x2400h-av-receiver-with-heos?