Not everyone wants to buy a processor to game on. @BetaRomeo, I have seen a few comments about how an overclocked old processor can keep up with or beat xxxx processor from AMD. The same can be said of an older processor keeping up with the latest and greatest that Intel offer. I find it kind of disappointing that so many articles online look to be downplaying the AMD offerings, saying they can't do this or that, or can't beat this or that. We (the consumer) should be happy at the new competition. I have seen some comments online from folk that you would think they were major shareholders in Intel. It's almost like how people become so territorial over Apple and Samsung handsets for things that they ultimately have no vested interest in.
jaydeeuk1
11 Apr 176#2
Voted hot on an AMD CPU deal. Thats never happened before.
Oneday77
11 Apr 175#21
As a deals site. I'd like to think that taking a used 2500k for £70 and a Z77 motherboard. And getting £400, factoring in newer Motherboard and DDR4 RAM, worth of performance out of it was still relevant.
If anyone can get an i5-750 close to Ryzen then that's another story. The real point is in 6 years not much has changed.
While I applaud AMD for finally catching up. I don't think the performance for the money is right yet.
The fact a 2500k can still be tested against a 7700k too shows the market gains have stagnated.
CoeK
11 Apr 173#10
He said some comments online made him think they were intel shareholders, i don't think he meant yours.
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paddy.stone
11 Apr 171#1
Might want to add Amazon to the topic title
jaydeeuk1
11 Apr 176#2
Voted hot on an AMD CPU deal. Thats never happened before.
DanManchester
11 Apr 173#3
Yep hot here too, been waiting for this and ordered! Will sell the Wraith spire cooler on ebay and use my trusty Noctua NH-D15 instead. Free AM4 mounting kit from Noctua: AM4 mounting kit
Oddly, the 1600X didn't pull far ahead of an overclocked i5-2500K for gaming. There were times when the difference may have been appreciable - frame-times beyond 16.7ms were rare on Ryzen, but less so on the 2500K (OC), and there was an occasional FPS boost (Crysis 3 was the only one to leap far ahead - 124FPS vs 88 on the 2500K), but generally it wasn't really a big difference. Indeed, GTAV did better on the i5-2500K. As they say:
Hardly an exhaustive suite of games, though, to be fair! Hopefully they'll add more. Arma 3 would be a good one to see. :smile:
But to paraphrase another HUKD member: none of these benchmarks are important, BIOS updates and patches mean testing is pointless, everything is subjective, everyone should just buy AMD.
Spod
11 Apr 17#5
Fixed that for ya! :stuck_out_tongue::smirk:
HacKage
11 Apr 1714#6
Not everyone wants to buy a processor to game on. @BetaRomeo, I have seen a few comments about how an overclocked old processor can keep up with or beat xxxx processor from AMD. The same can be said of an older processor keeping up with the latest and greatest that Intel offer. I find it kind of disappointing that so many articles online look to be downplaying the AMD offerings, saying they can't do this or that, or can't beat this or that. We (the consumer) should be happy at the new competition. I have seen some comments online from folk that you would think they were major shareholders in Intel. It's almost like how people become so territorial over Apple and Samsung handsets for things that they ultimately have no vested interest in.
BetaRomeo to HacKage
11 Apr 17#8
I do apologise for referring to a review that comments on Ryzen 5 performance in games on a Ryzen 5 deal. I did think it would go without saying that if you're not buying a processor to game on, then games benchmarks would not be of interest. Apparently not. :smile:
I did vote Hot on this deal - and it is hot, even from a gaming perspective, despite not being a tempting upgrade for people with a decent system already (and the same could be said for any i5 - but this isn't an i5 deal!). For new buyers for gaming, it seems quite clear that it's a choice between the Ryzen 5 1600 at ~£300+ for chip + motherboard, or the 7700K from ~£410 for chip + motherboard.
I'm curious, though - if you think my quoting and referencing comments from Ryzen reviews makes it look like I'm a "major shareholder in Intel", I assume that you think the same of all the reviewers? :confused:
CoeK
11 Apr 17#7
I would rather buy a new processor than an old processor and would rather go AMD than intel personally.
bluepeter11 to CoeK
11 Apr 17#18
Also, using an older processor would typically mean using older components as well, the biggest issue for me though is power draw.
BetaRomeo
11 Apr 17#9
Oh, I forgot to mention: anyone with a Hyper 212 cooler, or some of the other Coolermaster HSFs, can get a free AM4 mounting plate to use it with a new Ryzen chip:
Out of stock at the moment. When they were in stock, I took one to the checkout, and the shipping fee was US$7 - I haven't seen today's exchange rate, but I imagine that's about £7.
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Review links: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/official-ocuk-amd-ryzen-5-review-thread.18775905/
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If anyone can get an i5-750 close to Ryzen then that's another story. The real point is in 6 years not much has changed.
While I applaud AMD for finally catching up. I don't think the performance for the money is right yet.
The fact a 2500k can still be tested against a 7700k too shows the market gains have stagnated.
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Oddly, the 1600X didn't pull far ahead of an overclocked i5-2500K for gaming. There were times when the difference may have been appreciable - frame-times beyond 16.7ms were rare on Ryzen, but less so on the 2500K (OC), and there was an occasional FPS boost (Crysis 3 was the only one to leap far ahead - 124FPS vs 88 on the 2500K), but generally it wasn't really a big difference. Indeed, GTAV did better on the i5-2500K. As they say:
Hardly an exhaustive suite of games, though, to be fair! Hopefully they'll add more. Arma 3 would be a good one to see. :smile:
But to paraphrase another HUKD member: none of these benchmarks are important, BIOS updates and patches mean testing is pointless, everything is subjective, everyone should just buy AMD.
I did vote Hot on this deal - and it is hot, even from a gaming perspective, despite not being a tempting upgrade for people with a decent system already (and the same could be said for any i5 - but this isn't an i5 deal!). For new buyers for gaming, it seems quite clear that it's a choice between the Ryzen 5 1600 at ~£300+ for chip + motherboard, or the 7700K from ~£410 for chip + motherboard.
I'm curious, though - if you think my quoting and referencing comments from Ryzen reviews makes it look like I'm a "major shareholder in Intel", I assume that you think the same of all the reviewers? :confused:
http://www.cmstore.eu/cooling/amd-am4-upgrade-kit-rr-accy-am4b-r1/
Out of stock at the moment. When they were in stock, I took one to the checkout, and the shipping fee was US$7 - I haven't seen today's exchange rate, but I imagine that's about £7.