I think the Note 4X naming is only for regions that have the Mediatek Note 4. The Indian version is also known as just Note 4 but is Snapdragon. There appears to be 4 different versions of the Note 4 with identical hardware (SD625) but with different band coverage.

China Note 4X (no B20)
Taiwan Note 4X (has B20)
India Note 4 (no B20)
and the one in this deal which I'm guessing is Indonesia version and is named Note 4 with SD625 like India version but has B20 like Taiwan Note 4X.

Taiwan and China have the Mediatek Note 4 so I assume they called the Snapdragon version as Note 4X to differentiate the 2. India and Indonesia don't have the MTK Note 4 so their Note 4 is SD only and not named 4X.

No more a fraud than Amazon and Apple paying next to no UK tax despite having £billions of sales in the UK.

I didn't think these worked with o2 4g

Because it often doesn't cover Band 20. This one explicitly does.

They are finally arriving

Is the Note 3 supposed to be better? Something about the processor?

Performance comparison with Note 3 https://youtu.be/gIibCm1dYSk

I think this video has the Mediatek version of the Note 4 not the Snapdragon.

Was just about to order an Honor 5C. Is this a better alternative?

Get the Note 3 SE, it has a Snapdragon cpu and is the best phone I've ever had

The looks of Note 4 are very much superior than those of Note 3.

Had planned to get a Moto G4 but the many complaints about the "ghost touch" fault has put me off totally.
Any recommendations for a decent phone I could pick up at around £150?

I believe this phone has the mediatek processor, the 4X is a slight upgrade with the snapdragon version.

I had the note 3 se, really fast, excellent screen but a issue with the call disconnecting or when someone calls it goes voicemail first and on the second call it rings etc forced me to get rid, seemed like an iPhone 4 antennagate type issue, this looks like it has the antenna lines outside dunno how much difference it will make.

Any idea when the Moto G5 Plus is out? What is this like compared to that?

​Processing power advantage goes to Note 3 with Snapdragon 650 but battery life is a win for Note 4 Snapdragon 625. Although both are excellent, Note 4 is not as good for gaming.

Read this as redmi 4 and was going to order good deal for someone in the market for a good quality 5.5" screen with full UK band support

I want this spec in the redmi 4 with the 5" screen, have to keep waiting a bit longer...

The Redmi Note 4X Taiwan release has B20 and is Snapdragon. However this listing says Redmi Note 4 on the box. I have a feeling it may be the Indonesian SD model. Unboxing video here, showing the same packaging as shown in the Aliexpress listing. "Global Version" sticker at the side and CE1317 certification. The India Redmi Note 4 has a "Made in India" mark at the back and no "Global Version" sticker. No info on the Indonesian MI site, however the page for their Redmi 4A version supports the same bands (incl. B20) so this model is likely an Indonesian version that is named Redmi Note 4 like the Indian variant, but supports the same bands as the Taiwan Note 4X.

better than mi max.. noooo any phone

Great deal, got the note 3 SE on the previous deal so I reckon I'll get this for the missus or someone.
So frustrating that they have so many versions of phones without any real clarity of what phone you're actually getting.

For the camera, note 3 se or note 4 with snapdragon? Any real comparison?

Note 3 is better for performance
Also likely to get better aftermarket support
Note 4 has a better screen and battery
Both have mediocre cameras
Both have the same fingerprint scanner
Redmi Note 4 is more premium, unibody metal

If you want insane battery, get the Note 4
If you want better performance and custom roms,get the Note 3

Both are very good

​you should ask on the note 3 thread deal if anyone could help. most things on phones are solvable

If you don't want to take any risks, (From what you've said, sounds like you like to play it safe,) consider the P8 Lite from Vodafone for £150. You may have to pay £15 to get it unlocked but if you have a problem, you have a shop to take it back to.

Guys, can you recommend a comparison website, or better still, is there a site where you can put in what you want from a phone and it makes suggestions?

I have a Nokia Lumia 925 which I love the camera on. I'm also not that fussed on going bigger. I'd like better battery and I use it for email, basic web browsing, info on the move (trip advisor, weather, trains) - no real gaming or heavy ap usage.

The camera and battery is important to me. But, I'd like to go back to android. And not spend more than about £100. And not get a contract. And keep it at 5" or less.

Am I better sticking for the time-being?

Just another reason to leave the EU then

Last couple of deliveries from China have had stop offs in Germany/Switzerland to change labels.......................

GSM Arena will have all the info on any Phone you're thinking about

Been looking at making the move to Android for the last while was thinking of a Xiaomi Mi5 with a Global Rom... I've bought loads of cheap bits from Aliexpress but never anything like a phone, how reliable is delivery and what are the chances or getting hit with customs, if you DONT select DHL, or are you better stump up for custom charges but will piece of mind of delivery with DHL.

any other sites people would recommend, I'm keeping an eye on Geekbuying/Ali/Flosmal see what offers come up

Is this pro and why same price as 4x??

My phone from XiaomiStore came within 3 weeks

I don't think it's anything to do with privilege. Xiaomi just have different models tailored for a specific region. Most Aliexpress sellers are based in China and are likely sourcing their stock from local supplier which will be a Chinese variant with no B20. The stores that offer B20 variants are probably just ones that don't operate out of China only and have a wider network where they're able to get stock for different models so I wouldn't say it's a case of the Chinese thinking we're not privileged enough to get their better models.

How much are the customs charges it says 95% chance you will have to pay

How will this compare to the lenovo meme p2? first impressions are:

probably worse screen on note 4 (non amoled)
lower battery life on note 4 but still good.
worse camera on note 4 i assume?

any comments?

thanks.... did you get hit for customs?

I did a ZTE Axon 7 from Aliexpress in Jan with no charges. Luck of the draw but don't select DHL - choose free shipping

how do you remove the warranty?

Change your location(ship to) USA, then change it back before you order.

I will let you know what happens on the 15th March when AliExpress make a decision about my undelivered phone. I expect a refund. I'll let you guys know what happens when the damn thing doesn't come.

Some sellers undervalue the phone to avoid customs. Others may not so it will be hit and miss. My phone was delivered at the processing centre on the 5th February. Seems like it's been lost there. No mention about customs

Global ROM...tick
Band 20...tick
Note 4....tick
5.5" / 1080p...tick
£130....tick
No black or grey though - only gold... :disappointed:

Going to wait for the other colours but will still give this deal a HOT.

No more a fraud than Amazon and Apple paying next to no UK tax despite having £billions of sales in the UK.

This guys is brilliant for comparisons of mobiles phone...hes my go to man on you tube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO2WJZKQoDW4Te6NHx4KfTg

No,second phone

Does anyone know if Google Play is already available on these phones or do you have to root it yourself?

This or the note 3 pro or the note 4 pro? Totally confused by all the different versions...

Couldn't be more confused about which phone is basic/pro better/worse.
Is it just me ? :smiley:

With a genuine Global ROM (which this is advertised as having), all the Google stuff is already installed and everything is ready to go out of the box.

Tempted, but could someone recommend to buy from this xiaomi online store or banggood please as they are both similar price.

​I have issues with my Redmi Note 3 as well. when I receive any calls, people on the other side can hardly hear me. Same applies if I use headphones. Looks like a lot of people having these handsets have similar issues with mic.
I agree it's a good looking phone with great spec though but with this problem I am not too sure if I am going to keep it.

Can anyone recommend a 5" Redmi device with Band 20 support. Not a fan of phones that can't be used with one hand.

Taking a gamble on this. Always weary about buying from China and no NFC will be a massive blow as I love android pay. Gonna use this as my second phone but as it vastly outclasses my Samsung J5 2016 (still a very decent budget phone) it will probably become my main phone.

I've been told there is no option to set UK as your region in this phone and also concerned that spyware could be embedded in the software by the seller not Xiaomi. Do I have any reason to worry?

If it's a reputable seller and legitimate installation, no reason to worry. I bought from Hong Kong Goldway (reputable seller on Ali), and it came with a clean as a whistle Global ROM with no malware (scanned it with about 4 different AVs to make sure).

Besides, if you read today's news, the CIA in conjunction with GCHQ have been installing spyware on TVs, phones, and millions of other devices for many years now....

Er, yeah, it's called the 5" Redmi with Band 20 support (also known as 'Kate' or special edition). The 4X also has a Band 20 version.

The global developer roms have UK as a region for the Note 3 so I suspect the Note 4 will be the same. Personally I just ended up installing Lineage OS on my Note 3 so never had to worry about spyware.

Thanks for your replies Picard123 and jimborae.

When I get the phone I will report back but after watching various YouTube videos it looks an amazing piece of kit. Shame Chinese manufactures don't seem to bother with NFC but I guess you can't have everything.

Redmi Note 3 Pro SE is marginally faster.
Redmi Note 4 Global is more energy efficient.

For £100, I think you will not get a good camera. I bought my mother the P9 Lite before Christmas for £140 and the battery is epic. Like most budget handsets, the camera is good in good light, rubbish in poor light. Maybe stick with what you've got or increase your budget to the new Moto G5.

Do you know if any of the latest xiaomi phones have NFC?

A 128GB microSD card works fine on the Note 3.

Ive seen the 4X for around £132

4X is newer and better

You definitely won't get a good camera on a £100 phone - they have cut costs somewhere to bring it within this pricepoint and the profit margins on these phones are already wafer thin. The cameras on the 3 and 4 are 'okay' in good lighting but no more than that. iPhone 6 and Galaxy S7 are on a different level entirely (though those are £600+ phones). Personally, I'm not too fussed - I'd rather spend £100 on a phone like this and use the saving to buy a 'proper' compact camera which will be superior to the iPhone/S7 snapper. Still, each to their own...

http://www.gizbeat.com/10248/sony-imx258-vs-samsung-s5k3p3-xiaomi-redmi-note-3-pro-vs-xiaomi-mi5/


It's a terrific phone for the price. I really like MIUI 8 as well (I have the Redmi Note 3).

If I had to quibble, I wish it was a fraction thinner and had a better camera module but then that's a bit churlish given the price.

I ordered the 4X because I thought it was SD but this says note 4 also with SD...I don't get it. Isn't the 4X Snapdragon and the 4 Mediatek ?

I don't think they do. NFC doesn't seem important to Chinese manufacturers unfortunately.

Redmi Note 4 Global (which is basically the same phone as Note 4x) comes with SD and Redmi Note 4 with Mediatek Helio...

I think the Note 4X naming is only for regions that have the Mediatek Note 4. The Indian version is also known as just Note 4 but is Snapdragon. There appears to be 4 different versions of the Note 4 with identical hardware (SD625) but with different band coverage.

China Note 4X (no B20)
Taiwan Note 4X (has B20)
India Note 4 (no B20)
and the one in this deal which I'm guessing is Indonesia version and is named Note 4 with SD625 like India version but has B20 like Taiwan Note 4X.

Taiwan and China have the Mediatek Note 4 so I assume they called the Snapdragon version as Note 4X to differentiate the 2. India and Indonesia don't have the MTK Note 4 so their Note 4 is SD only and not named 4X.

My Xiaomi mi5 got it unfortunately no LTE band20...

The only things preventing me from buying this right away is the missing NFC and that there doesn't seem to be a dedicated micro SD slot (I need dual sim)

Yeah, I actually think the lumia 925 is pretty decent. The camera especially is very good. Battery won't last a day on me though which is frustrating. That and no-one makes bloody aps for it! Keeps me uncluttered I suppose lol

I've received 4 phones recently from Aliexpress, geekbuying and Banggood, no customs charges on any(all free/standard shipping).

Kate / special edition was for the Note 3 with 5.5", we have one at home along with the Note 3 Pro and Mi max with SD 652.

I've used both though the xiaomi online store on aliexpress is not an official Xiaomi store IIRC.

Black available from Dreami on aliexpress (though it is £147ish).

I have locale set to india, used Falklands on previous redmi note 3 though it made no discernible difference. My mi max was delivered with a vendor rom (geekbuying) according to info here...
http://en.miui.com/thread-205457-1-1.html
though has since been flashed and receives regular updates (as do the two Redmi note 3 's that live here).

Had this phone for 2 weeks now and was my first Chinese import, have to say it is fantastic for the price, was a bit sceptical but amazing quality and camera is good for normal use. All my mates are amazed at the price. I have set the theme as iOS as you can customise the MIUI8 OS in any way you can Imagine, so to some in its case it looks like an iPhone. Brilliant phone

​​does it have adups? run debloated to see, it's some spyware I found on my outikel mobile. wonder if they did the same for this phone, as it's Chinese also

My complaint about MIUI8 is that in trying to give you more choice, there are, I feel too many tweaks and changes, find it a bit OTT.

I can't say, I have no reason to doubt xiaomi store, they've been used by many here.

They're all great, until something goes wrong. :smiley:

Really want to get one of the Xiaomi phones but hesitate because i don't know if they are safe and secure. Can anyone who has the phone please let me know if they are trustworthy?

​Thanks. Main reason for the doubt is because this phone has quite a large battery and thought it may be dangerous when it comes to charging.

​large battery doesn't mean it's dangerous, all chargeable batteries are dangerous, xiaomi is a fairly reliable brand in terms of battery failures compared to Samsung and the like

​plus one of the big issues is with the quick charge technology some of the phones employ, not specifically the battery itself.

had a redmi note 3 se for 2 months now and not a problem with heat etc.

Even if they do report back to servers in China, they probably steal a fraction of your data than Apple, Samsung or that cool torch app that has millions of downloads.

​Yeh but that's just 1 out of thousands.

I'm happy to take the risk of some hassle in order to save money. Worst case you'll receive a slow refund. Alternatively, pay more from UK supplier, only you can decide.

All devices with batteries are potentially dangerous.
I believe the reason people are worried about 'cheap Chinese tat' is because consumers keep buying it and suffering failure and injury(usb chargers 'exploding'). The dangerous tat that is produced in China is produced because cheapskates keep buying it. Xiaomi is not part of this market.

​I'm still undecided which model to go for. Was about to order this the other day but then read that the GPS is abit dodgy on it. Dno how true that is but put me off.

​this

​if you like gold, I'm still waiting on grey or black

will this get past customs?

Thanks OP. Ordered via Quidco (8% Cashback), Ali Express, Xiaomi Online Store. £126.29 less any cashback received (ticket price £128.79 less £2.51 joining coupon). Now the waiting begins...:stuck_out_tongue:

Edit, that was quick, Quidco tracking at £10.15 making it £116.14 when that is made payable.

Thanks OP, I've ordered. Any guesses on how long delivery will take? I'm hoping it will be here in 4 weeks or is that wishful thinking?

from experience i say ​10-14 days max after the dispatch email - I'm still yet to order one of these myself, i just don't like the gold colour.

Thanks, finally gone with Dreami for the grey one with black panels on the front. Used Revolut card to get good exchange rate and via topcashback for another £10 off. Bought three phones in total from China before for the kids, 2 no fees, one was picked up by customs . At the end of the day these are a bargain. Had been thinking of a Mate 9 or the 10 plus but this is so much cheaper couldn't really justify the significant difference in cost i.e. £400/£500 cheaper. Dual SIM will be great for getting rid of the crap work phone. Losing the SD card slot is no real pain as everything is in the cloud anyway now.

​link for the grey one please