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deb8z
4 Mar 171#1
We have this tv it's fab :smile:
cj123825
4 Mar 17#2
I was just looking at this yesterday at JL when it was 999, so good spot. Tempting...
I wonder if it's been price matched somewhere.
deb8z to cj123825
4 Mar 172#3
It's the same price at Richer Sounds which is where we bought ours.
delusion
4 Mar 17#4
Still hoping to get the ue55KS8000 for £1.1k or less, but this is on my list too if it gets back down to £850.
Note, the 2017 televisions are starting to be released imminently so another drop is possible.
Sniffer77
4 Mar 17#5
Good tv as long as your watching straight on and in a bright room
deb8z to Sniffer77
4 Mar 17#6
Sure your settings are correct,we only ever watch it with a lamp on in the room,never have a bright light in there and it's fine.
hukd_addict to Sniffer77
4 Mar 17#24
go on, why do you need a bright room?
benjam1n to Sniffer77
4 Mar 17#27
what a stupid comment, it's one of the brightest tvs available. It's hdr1000. The brightness blows the oleds out of the park. Obviously oled has other advantages but brightness is not one of them. Can't say I've had any issues with viewing angles but I spend most of my time in front of it so wouldn't notice. And yes horizon on a pro does look magnificent on it. The remote is pretty cool too, and I don't think the back has fallen off of my tv yet lol, not looked though it's wall mounted.
kismith1
4 Mar 17#7
I watch my in a room with a lamp with no problems and set my TV up with the settings on the internet.
stupot76
4 Mar 17#8
Yeeeah my TV love it :smiley:
drunk1
4 Mar 17#9
Some of the recent reviews are not good at all. Great price though considering what you get.
EwanLIA to drunk1
4 Mar 17#12
What negative reviews are you referring to? I haven't seen any that aren't glowing.
pesser
4 Mar 174#10
Cracking bit of kit. Wish my current TV would hurry up and die:D
I have the KS9000 and it's a great tv, no problem with viewing angles at all, these prices are good now in view of the new models coming out this year
delusion
4 Mar 17#18
Yes
Cro_Baron
4 Mar 17#19
Says it has support for it on DC website!
balluji
4 Mar 17#20
8+2
Micksabhoy
4 Mar 17#21
It's a 10 bit panel. We got one it's great and fine in bright or dark room. Well worth this price. I paid 950 and was more than happy.
Excellent gaming mode with quick input response
jaydeeuk1
4 Mar 174#22
"Everyone's favourite HDR tv."
Unless you've looked at an oled set
sunny200350 to jaydeeuk1
4 Mar 17#23
Giggety :smile:
BARKMAN to jaydeeuk1
4 Mar 17#28
It's more of a tongue in cheek remark because it always invokes so much discussion and disagreement. Welcome aboard.
hukd_addict
4 Mar 17#25
giggetty giggetty too! come on b6 £1500 and your mine!
jonhoggy
4 Mar 171#26
Tempted. Then realised the feet position mean I would need a new tv cabinet. Pfft.
Liquidsky
4 Mar 171#29
I have the 60" and i rang Samsung about the back panel and a repair came out and just replaced the little bit of tape that was on the back with a new stronger tape that goes all the way round. Make sure you turn off auto motion to get best judder free results.
drunk1
4 Mar 17#30
Go to recent reviews on website. A good few 1 star for blurring in 4K/1080i. Far outweighed with good reviews but still puts a doubt in your head.
styllage
4 Mar 17#31
Does anyone know if the 2017 range of Samsung TVs will have a model that replaces this? I know there is the QLED TVs, but they seem to be going up against the OLED TVs from the competition, and so the price is considerably more. What I'm basically asking is, should I just buy this, or wait a few months. I don't really want to spend over £1500.
deb8z
4 Mar 17#32
Actually that's the one thing OH doesn't like about the tv is the remote :laughing:
I don't know whether it's just him or not but he always seems to knock it on the floor when he puts it down,he blames the shape of it,it doesn't lie flat :laughing:
Yull.of.Eld
4 Mar 172#33
The European KS7000 is 100% a 10 bit, HDR panel, 1000 nit panel.
I think a lot of the confusion comes from the U.S. KS7000 model which isn't 10 bit.
There to get the equivalent model, you have to buy ou have to get the KS8000.
EndlessWaves to Yull.of.Eld
4 Mar 17#39
There is no North American KS7000 model as far as I know, I think you're getting it mixed up with the KU7000.
10-bit vs. 8-bit+FRC is a silly distinction because it makes such a tiny difference. There are far bigger differences in HDR hardware like local dimming ability.
Don't expect the new model to be a similar price in a few months though, it's November before the prices have dropped all the way.
seandpop
4 Mar 17#34
I'll have half a dozen
Lw.jarvis
4 Mar 17#35
You and me both!!
TK42
4 Mar 17#36
Probably referring to the viewing angles. If the screen is shiny as well wouldn't help.
2minutenoodles
4 Mar 17#37
A brighter room would make the picture darker. Unless the TV is set to adjust brightness automatically to suit the room and dims with light off. Sounds like a user error.
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 171#38
Where did Sniffer77 mention OLED?
As you have mentioned it, whilst the peak brightness is higher on these LCD's erm.... sorry i mean LED, erm i mean LED backlit LCD... erm i mean EDGE lit LED LCD
The brightness range is more or less the same if not higher on the OLED, since although it won't reach the peak brightness of an LCD it goes a lot deeper into the black range
Peak brightness is a non selling point, (someone tell samsung) in fact i have to turn down the brightness on my OLED, its eye piercing otherwise. (if i wanted a burnt retina, i would stare at the sun thanks)
What's more important is the number of dimming zones, OLED has hundreds, and this tv has hardly any at all - and it shows
And a bright room affecting the image is mostly down to the reflective coating on the screen above anything else.
Anyway, had this TV once upon a time, and sent it back. wasn't happy with it, It is not at all comparable to an OLED, so not point mentioning them really
I bought a Sony android, wish I'd waited for this as my Sony is rubbish
Fredmcfly
4 Mar 171#42
Could you tell me the difference between Samsung 7000, 8000 and 9000 ranges please.
pukenukem
4 Mar 172#43
This is misleading on the OLED front. I'm not too familiar with the techie side of TVs in terms of brightness but I know this. When I decided to buy a new TV there was only one option. OLED. It's expensive yes, but I've not seen a picture quality like it. It's phenomenal. I've brightness set to 55 in a fully lit room. If you want your TV to give you sun burn, perhaps OLED isn't for you.
Justsuperman
4 Mar 172#44
OLED is far far better wouldn't touch LCD again
afroylnt
4 Mar 17#45
Allot of money for non OLED and non FALD. Better to spend less or spend more; backlight lets it down
styllage
4 Mar 17#46
Interesting. I might just still hold off on purchasing the KS7000 until more information is released on the 2017 range. This TV will fluctuate around this price for a while yet, might even get down to £800, which will really push me to buying it.
TwentyTwo
4 Mar 17#47
Hot from me, Quantum Dot seems the best atm for picture quality if you plan to use it for gaming.
I probably love OLED more than anyone in this thread, refusing to purchase any phone without an OLED screen, but the motion blur and image retention is a deal breaker.
suoer_cds
4 Mar 172#48
cold not a panasonic
Mrtrotters
4 Mar 17#49
Might jump in if it gets to £799.
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 172#50
OLED image retention? motion blur?
First off, any screen can get image retention (even CRT), image retention is no more of an issue on an OLED than it is on an LCD.
and motion blur.... where do i start here! - since we're talking about just screen technology only, and not particular TV's. LCD blurs more than OLED with motion, since OLED has a faster pixel response. It's why with LCD you get shimmering on fast moving sequences.
all in all, sounds like you're a bit confused
Oh and Quantum Dot, QLED is just buzz words, it's still LCD
As for phones, most of the top end smartphones use OLED, it's not like you need to go out of your way to get OLED screens!
by the way, any of your OLED phones have screen image retention?
Moonwolf1976
4 Mar 171#51
Samsung are unreliable imo, especially their TVs where you get screen failiure due to the tab bonding coming loose from thermal heat up, resulting in horizontal lines or a dark shadow on on one side of the screen. This has happened on two samsungs I have owned and so I now dont but them anymore, and feel I aught to warn people of this common fault.
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 172#52
Nice motion blur there also... (sorry :smiley: )
mark6220
4 Mar 171#53
I've read a lot of bad things about Samsung TV recently. They seem to be very unreliable. I've been a Samsung smart TV user since 2010. Last year a had two break on me within a week. One TV was only a few days old. So I switched to Panasonic. I've read a lot of reviews on Amazon and the John Lewis site and many many people are complaining about poor quality builds and unreliable TV etc. Apparently Samsung have starting using cheaper parts in the mid range high end televisions.
EvilA
4 Mar 17#54
Such a good tv (this model). Now has the Now TV update. It already has Amazon Video, Netflix, Google Videos, You Tube and more.
loadsavmoney
4 Mar 17#55
not my favourite :stuck_out_tongue:
i bought a UE55KS8000 and i sent it back, motion blur being the main issue
just a warning: samsungs latest TVs automatically switch to the last powered HDMI so make sure you're using a av receiver or something similar if you're using something that powers on by itself like a tv recorder box
i contacted samsung and asked for help but they said that it's a feature of the TV and cannot be turned off :confused:
loadsavmoney
4 Mar 171#56
Quantum Dot is just samsungs version of Sonys Triluminos, it's basicaly just a layer that's added to the LCD that improves colour
loadsavmoney
4 Mar 17#57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqb_8r-JDbg&t=
the model numbers are different in this video but
8000 has a better stand and looks better than the 7000 plus it's supposed to have a slightly faster chipset so it can handle motion slightly better
9000 looks the same as the 8000 but is curved and has a better backlight
deb8z
4 Mar 17#58
That stand is awful,more of a dust collector :laughing:
Sniffer77
4 Mar 17#59
Because it hides the awful light bleed on a lot of these sets . Switch the lights off and you will see .
As for viewing angles they are awful but I've come from plasma .
Had to return my set and got oled instead . No comparison between the 2
Sniffer77
4 Mar 171#60
Not really a stupid comment !!!
Bright rooms hides the light bleed . Watching the Tv in a dark room and you no doubt see light bleed .
This is why a lot of people instal bias lighting as it hides the issue a bit ,
You are correct that it is a very bright TV though .
Viewing angles try watching from the side . Colours etc washed out and also other light issues become apparent . Also I found the picture stutters /Huddersfield somewhat on the Samsung
. I know this happens on most new TVs these days but the Samsung was too much for me.
Just my experience with the Tv , but as you mentioned oled and I gladly returned my Samsung and upgraded to an lg oled . Can't compare the 2 TVs as the oled is on a differing league ,but then it is a lot more cash to spend
Fredmcfly
4 Mar 17#61
I am so tempted by the curved 55 inch ks9000, does anyone have this and can comment on it.
loadsavmoney
4 Mar 17#62
imo the 7000s stand looks cheaper and it needs a wide TV cabinet to stand on :stuck_out_tongue:
zchari5
4 Mar 17#63
Good image but:
1. Keeps losing wireless connection so have to keep soft resetting it or playing with DNS settings to get up iplayer or even worse still if you connect to a NAS it drops connection after 30 minutes. Common problem with no fix for the NAS issue if you Google it
2. Hardly any HD content
Locknloadharry
4 Mar 17#64
YES, IT IS 10 BIT.....HDR10
Locknloadharry
4 Mar 171#65
I have a comment mate.
Do not buy a curved TV.
They are only for suckers.
Whether you take that advice is up to you, but i am really trying to help you.
big.willy.style
4 Mar 17#66
I have a curved tv and agree, just a gimmick nothing more! I have the js8500 55inch and at an angle and where my light is situated the light goes right across the screen!
fletch8
4 Mar 17#67
Great TV, paid 699 for this 2 weeks ago from John Lewis (no screws with the stand apparently
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 17#68
The KS9000 is a marginally better TV than this, but still can't be compared with OLED and is a similar price!
Any reason you're going for the samsung?
Mr_Mister
4 Mar 171#69
I'm thinking of getting a Sony XD8005 55" mainly due to Android.
Do you think I should get a cheaper LG or Panasonic TV instead and buy a separate Android box?
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 17#70
What are you wanting to use Android for?
Jaybeam
4 Mar 17#71
Went into Curry's the other day and the assistant actually showed me the back coming off of a 8500, I've noticed the back in another store coming away from a 7000. The QC is appalling on these models have a look on the AV forums user thread. I don't know why all the hype on this tv, in store compared to the LG B6 oled it looks totally washed out- and they actually use good old fashioned screws to keep the back on! Just hope the LG B6 will drop in price again. Even the Sony 8599 looked better than the 7000 to me especially if you're still viewing standard def freeview.
Mainly for Kodi and Chromecast. If they are both built into the Sony AndroidTV then there is less clutter than buying separates.
CoolStory
4 Mar 17#74
Samsung are really over priced, for what they are.
Had the KS7000 input lag (with PS4 Pro) is amazing at the time but found out it is with out HDR enabled! and the motion on the panel looks like a 50HZ Native panel but the motion rubbish. It was stuttering and blurring and adjustment sliders either over compensated to much or not enough when you to have to readjust it constantly! (Depending on source) also the bloody panel came loose due the heat so enjoy the cheap plastic.
Switched to the 55XD8599 couldn't be happier Triluminos (i.e. more advanced quantum dot) and the motion handling is ideal for what I use it for the android software does have a learning curve but when you understand it works better than the Tizen software plus Chromecast (Googlecast what ever the difference is!) works really well. Input lag is not as fast but with HDR enabled at all times much more ideal.
clogher
4 Mar 17#75
someone needs to get out more...!
Biggunspaul
4 Mar 17#76
1000 :smile:
Biggunspaul
4 Mar 17#77
Why do you go on nearly every Samsung TV deal to bang on about OLED TV's and the fact that you own one ?
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 17#78
Nearly every samsung tv thread? doubtful, mostly this particular TV as i'm a previous owner
Bang on? i only mentioned it in relation to brightness, and in fact I didn't bring up OLED, a ridiculous comparison was made, so I put it right. And will continue to do so when i see rubbish posted.
Less clutter but there are better standalone Kodi devices, most can be attached directly to the back of the TV to avoid any extra clutter.
I guess it depends what sort of content you are streaming via Kodi, but the nVidia shield paired with a decent TV (smart or non smart - the shield does what most smart tv's can do but better) is the ideal combination imo, but then it isn;t necessarily the cheapest option.
Biggunspaul
4 Mar 17#79
Funny that as you were quick enough to go on about OLED on my deal a few months back and that wasn't this TV,oh and then there was another deal where you had all your comments removed as you were going on soooooo much.
Is your TV the only decent thing you own ?
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 17#80
Yeah. it was probably an even more inferior panel than this one, and i was educating people who thought buying any old cheap rubbish 4k TV was better than the HD set they already had, most of them (like yourself) tragically mistaken and aren't aware they're wasting their money on junk.
P.s i deleted the posts, after the lack of thanks decided i would rather idiots waste their money, fool and his money easily parted and all that.
Yeah, i just have a TV, in an empty room, that's it
Was there anything else? as we're going off topic now
Fredmcfly
4 Mar 17#81
Hello jayjayuk
What oled TV would you recommend for the same price as the Samsung UE49KS9000?
koneydcosta
4 Mar 17#82
Just ordered , thank's OP
nomnomnomnom
4 Mar 171#83
Plenty of OLED talk in this thread.....Wondering if any of your can point me to a 55", 4K OLED for around £899? Would love to buy one, as OLED is a lovely tech.
Last time I looked at OLED, the OLED55B6V which is a 55", 4K display was around double the price of this set and not much being cheaper.
If there are cheaper sets with a spec similar, could someone point them out? If not, all this OLED talk little more than "Something that costs twice the price is better"....yeahhhh, that's a given.
BigBuds
4 Mar 17#84
All that said, I'd rather have oled.
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 17#85
You make a good point, firstly someone compared this TV to OLED with relation to peak brightness, this was the reason for my comments, they spiralled when more guff was posted about OLED. Never intended for the conversation to continue this long, but the more information people have the better, manufacturers can and do mislead people!
Saying all that, i do wonder why people purchase a new TV primarily for the supposedly superior 4K image over their current HD, but then cheap out on the panel, rendering the upgrade near pointless..
it's a bit like replacing your 358 Ferrari for a replica Enzo costing more money..... ok it looks the part, but it ain't an Enzo, you may as well have stuck with what you had.
That's just my opinion, and no reflection on this particular 'deal' itself, i would imagine if this is the TV you want, although its been cheaper in the past, it's going to save you some money!
Also, if you really wanted, you can find a used OLED panel for this kind of money from people upgrading .on avforums
Biggunspaul
4 Mar 17#86
What car do you drive ?
jayjayuk1234
4 Mar 17#87
I will repeat, i wasn't the one comparing this at a price level with an OLED.. please read the thread.
However, having said that, any HD OLED will beat this '4k' TV in image quality, glad i could help
Don't have anything, remember.. It's just me and my TV (refer post #80)
Anyway, guys n gals, didn't want a full on OLED vs LCD debate, neither was i comparing this TV price wise with an OLED, that's not what this was meant to be, and i fear this is going off topic
i feel already made my point...
So, bye for now!..........it's been emotional.... :smile:
Biggunspaul
5 Mar 17#88
Yeah see you on the next Samsung TV deal :stuck_out_tongue:
I will also look out for any deals on keyboards for you,as I'm sure the letters O,L,E,D are well worn out on yours :laughing:
pukenukem
5 Mar 172#89
There's a snobbery surrounding oled, which is ashame. Right now it's really expensive and hard to attain for many. I'm very fortunate to be able to afford it. I think this is going to change over the next year or two, oled is going to become the standard, at least that's my hope. You see, it's just incredible, and so much better than LCD. Remember plasma, well I still think that plasma TVs produced far better pictures that LCD, but they were unreliable, easily suffer screen burn and they died out. Oled is like plasma on steroids, and we all deserve to view film and TV on an oled. I think oled is so much better I would not get this deal unless I had no choice, such as the current TV packed in. Wait, hang in there and get a TV that will make your jaw drop. Prices will come down!
Go to the bottom of the page and click on the europe tabs to see a great comparison table for the models. This is also a great article that looks at all the 2016 Samsung range, huge amount of info. Hope that helps
shifty277
5 Mar 171#91
AVforums link for this family of tv's below - 7000 series:
Anybody read the reviews of this TV on the John Lewis site? There's a number of complaints all stating the same problem with stuttering during motion. This does however conflict with the review on hdtvtest.co.uk
kamtheman
5 Mar 17#93
Damn, only 2 weeks after buying a Hisense 55m7000 for £100 less. I was waiting on this to drop but it wasn't looking likely.
Not that I am unimpressed with the Hisense but I do like Samsung kit.
ibl0010
5 Mar 17#94
This or hisense 55m7000
Tequila
5 Mar 171#95
spot on.
Ev0lution
5 Mar 17#96
Lot of harping on about the LG B6 on this thread. Its double the price of this set.
Even the 58" Panny DX902b is £300 cheaper than the 55" LG B6 at £1699 and if anyone comes out with the nonsense that its a lesser TV because its LED vs OLED then they need a right good slap. It may be older tech but its still a damn fine TV for the money.
Jaybeam
5 Mar 171#97
I wouldn't go to much by a tech reviews as this is just ones persons view - whether they're given a better review set to test or not I don't know, but I tend to look at user reviews rating now as this gives real world situation. For example, the backs coming off, this won't happen immediately - so guess what no mention in tech reviews, but look at the threads that someone posted above in AVforums for the 7000 you'll see it coming up time and again as does micro stutter awful back light bleed ...... I took a memory stick into Curry's last week with 720p stuff on it and compared the 7000, Sony 8599 and the LG B6 Oled as I use and will do for some time yet NowTV. The 7000 was awful at upscalling 720p compared to the other two. The only problem I know I won't like about the Sony will be light bleed when viewing at home, that's why I'm holding out for Oled.
Damn bought this last week for more. Ah well you have to jump in at some point. Watching Motd now, no evidence of any judder or blurring. This has replaced my hitachi plasma that was dying. Would love an oled but kerching....
jamesstirling
5 Mar 17#101
I'm playing in 1080p and a standard PS4, still find myself stopping and going into photo mode.. the graphics are unreal.
ronaldmacdonald
5 Mar 17#102
I have the 49" and 65" ks9000, both are a huge improvement on the 2014 range I had previously. Very, very good - at least to my eyes. Did look at OLED but the lack of brightness put me off for HDR
jaydeeuk1
5 Mar 17#103
The new oled sets can now do 1000 nits (and greater), last advantage of the lcd sets is gone.
hairray
5 Mar 17#104
Some advice - try to avoid if you are not sitting directly opposite the screen. The viewing angle on the TV is poor meaning you lose colour saturation and can see light bleed. It's great if your sofa bang opposite and providing the TV has been configured properly (check out AV forums guides) it's a nice picture.
benjam1n
5 Mar 17#105
I have no backlight bleed or motion issues. I mainly use pspro and xbox one, and watch mkvs via the built in plex app. Sometimes watch an HD broadcast. I'm actually amazed the tv can reproduce bright white logos on pure black without blooming or banding. My room is bright I guess, although I do dim the lights sometimes. And I do have subtle bias lighting. I've had no regrets since buying. My only issues are my 4od app disappeared and the silly google ad in my apps panel I can't get rid of. And yes the remote will slide off the table if you put it down slightly over the edge, but the remote itself works well with all devices, I dumped the harmony in favour of it.
supasta
5 Mar 17#106
My Samsung has developed about 5 lines hence was looking at a new tv and was considering this.
benjam1n
5 Mar 17#107
I just checked the viewing angle. It looks like the colour drops off in the final 30 degrees. So you get 120 is good and 30 either side less so. A total non issue for myself, YMMV.
genmaxiu
5 Mar 17#108
Can you please explain a lil bit more about this "last powered HDMI" thing...?
daveykinetic
5 Mar 17#109
my KS7000 has been fine running from a satellite box. in HD and SD. I now have an iptv server running through it and the 720 and 1080 streams have horrendous motion blur and stutter. my satellite box doesn't do it. could it be just down to the streams or the TV itself? also I bought the TV in December when the 899 deal was last on. I'm seriously considering getting rid if I cab if these motion problems are down to the TV. what are my rights within the first years warranty? is it possible to get my money back or just replacements under the warranty?
TwentyTwo
5 Mar 17#110
I can only go on what is out there at the moment, just Youtube the B6 (probably the cheapest panel) and see the issue it currently suffers from. Thankfully, my phone screen is fine, but there are others with burn in with OLED's, you only need to google to find them (you however are already aware of this).
I'm pleased you are enjoying your panel, but I would rather keep that extra money in pocket and let people like you subsidize the tech, so people like me can pick up a superior panel in 5 years time for a fraction of the cost, that is the price you pay as an early adopter.
For future reference, you convey the positives of OLED terribly. There are people of all sorts of professions who view this website, you portray someone who seems to either just want justify their purchase, or over defensive of the tech, rather than a passionate endorser.
Edit: I don't own the TV yet, but fully aware of the motion blur / judder problem - it has been widely reported you just need to adjust the auto motion option to fix this, always try this before sending the TV back.
Fredmcfly
5 Mar 17#111
Does anyone know of any current voucher codes to buy a SUHD TV please
*Sloman*
5 Mar 17#112
Yep looked at this then saw LG B6 OLED "Oh my!"
*Sloman*
5 Mar 17#113
This
jaydeeuk1
5 Mar 171#114
B6 is the cheap one, the one you want is the mid range c6 (I'm hoping for sub £1800 over summer). If 3d was launched on that instead of mediocre 1080p sets it would have taken off. Shame 3d killed off, it's spectacular on the high end oled sets.
*Sloman*
5 Mar 171#115
With update, all LG OLED's now have same picture quality only difference between models is 3D or built in sound bar etc
Disco.Dave
5 Mar 17#116
Won't recommend X8005. I have the 49"version and it's a pain. Slow and unresponsive. Better to an android box and this tv
dereklogan7
5 Mar 17#117
6 year warranty, if you can get it from Richer Sounds. :smiley:
cairnsy
5 Mar 17#118
No!!!! Just bought for £999 at Currys this week. Heat given.
UPDATE- just found out Currys price match JL up to 7 days after you make a purchase!! Wooho!
jaydeeuk1
5 Mar 171#119
johnro
5 Mar 17#120
have you tried replacing your hdmi cable?
loadsavmoney
5 Mar 17#121
no :stuck_out_tongue:... well ok
for example, you have a PS4 and a SKY HD box plugged into the TV, if the SKY HD box powers on to record a TV program, the TV will change the channel for you and there's nothing you can do about it, there's no off option, samsung say it's a feature that can't be turned off
The TV would switch channels while i was in the middle of a game and display a black no signal screen
loadsavmoney
5 Mar 17#122
I think motion blur is down to the individual, some are more sensitive or aware of it than others, if you're looking for it like i was then you'll never stop seeing it
loadsavmoney
5 Mar 17#123
The B6 has a different chipset to the others (C6,E6 and G6) these have slightly faster input lag for gaming as well as 3D
daveykinetic
5 Mar 17#124
iptv isn't running through a hdmi lead. it's channels I have built into the app you can download off Samsung app store called smart iptv
rickj
5 Mar 17#125
Still a long way short of lg oled though irrespective of brightness
jayjayuk1234
5 Mar 171#126
As i said, you can get image retention on any screen type, OLED does not suffer from it any more than any other screen type, so this point is moot
early adopter? you think people who buy now are subsidizing the tech? OLED has been out a long while now it's not new anymore.
Your logic is somewhat flawed though because price dropping to the level of LCD requires some form of competition, and the only company able to manufacture OLED screens large enough and cheaply enough are LG
Sony and Panasonic will be using LG screens in their upcoming OLED lines, so i don't see this price drop you're waiting for anytime soon. LG set and control the prices.
I am not justifying my purchase at all, just correcting those who are posting on here without a clue what they're talking about! - This includes you, go read the avforums entire thread regarding motion judder, one was fixed in an update almost a year ago now, and the other is normal telecine judder more apparent on an OLED since it has a faster pixel reponse than LCD. So LCD would blur the image, and OLED you get a slight judder, These are source issues and not faults with the TV.
Personally, i couldn't give a monkeys what TV you purchase, but will correct you if you post nonsense
4447
5 Mar 17#127
I've had this tv since Nov and it's been absolutely fantastic. Breathtaking colours and great contrast. Worth every single penny
NeilGY
5 Mar 17#128
Have you tried running your IPTV through an external source (Android box/Enigma box/Kodi etc)?
Only asking as i'm so tempted to order this tv but would also be using IPTV and don't want to run into these problems.
Cheers
paperboy2
5 Mar 17#129
As i said, you can get burn in on any screen type, OLED does not suffer from burn in any more than any other screen type, so this point is moot
OLED does suffer from screen burn more than some other technologies.
In fact screen burn is specifically excluded from the warranty of OLED, that is in the manual, and the LG website goes to great lenghts explaining built in technology to reduce image retention.
Sky786khan
5 Mar 17#130
[Hi all i got a samsung tv ue55f8000 3 year now but the tv is getting problem now it go of when the tv is on what or the problems with this tv
jayjayuk1234
5 Mar 17#131
Most TV's have features to prevent image retention regardless of the screen type.
OLED display is also managed to prevent it happening, its near impossible to get screen burn on the current line of LG TV's, even if you disable all the protection features, such as pixel shift...the OLED light will actively dim itself when no motion is detected.
image retention is not an issue
Anyway, think that's enough of this nonsense now :smile:
daveykinetic
5 Mar 171#132
had it running through an older Samsung 3d TV I've got earlier to see the difference in the iptv. the motion blur and judder was still there but allot better than the KS7000. not sure if it's because the other Sammy I have was only 40 inch and the KS7000 is 55 so I'd notice it more. it was far from perfect aswel on the 40 inch so I'm guessing the main reason was the stream. I can tell you I've had 0 issues with any motion handling with SD and HD via satellite box. also great picture on the PS pro. I've tried watching the grand tour through Amazon prime. I noticed he TV suffered badly from the soap opera effect I here ppl talking about. was different from what I've been experiencing with iptv. not sure if it was a problem with grand tour itself. I need to test more content to investigate further on that front.
psd99
6 Mar 17#133
so is this a good buy or not? seems a lot of people have stuttering problems and the viewing angle is only good straight on. From the side it seems poor.
Method45
6 Mar 17#134
Can anyone articulate the difference between this and the KS8000. I get the 60w sound difference but not clear what else you get for £500 extra?
Any help appreciated.
SLAMaLAMB
6 Mar 171#135
You're looking in the wrong place for a definitive answer. Varying opinions based on arguments about brightness, viewing angles etc. I'm not even sure why you would attempt to view your 55inch TV from any other angle other than directly in front.
Based on pricepoint and based on the features THIS TV provides you with, there is great value for money. People always talk about what other TVs offer 'OLED' blah blah blah but fact of the matter is, you're looking at the KS7000 and if your budget is sub £900 then you will be hard pushed to get something with more bang for your buck. I'm not saying you can't, but it's a challenge. Every single TV will have some form of minor viewing problem like the aforementioned that users have stated above.
The TV is great though, I highly recommend it. In it's own right, it's brilliant value.
SLAMaLAMB
6 Mar 17#136
Pfft a big price difference that is. Could get a pretty decent surround sound set up for the £500 difference.
Jaybeam
6 Mar 17#137
The reason this became popular (me including) was the fact that as of last year and price point the only tv that would hit 1000nits. If you take that away it's like the rest of the edge light bunch better in some aspects worse in others. People feel it's future proofing but it isn't. HDR is changing so fast and questions of software updates are already abounding. IMHO, If you need a new tv like me forget all the tech hype and go into a good shop - RS,JL, Curry's whatever, with material you normally watch now on a memory stick, and make your own choice.
LazyDonkey
6 Mar 171#138
For the price and spec, this is currently the best TV you can buy. But it's not without its quirks and faults.......like every other 2016 TV produced, including OLED - don't believe all the hype, unless you have money to burn.
The KS7000 suffers with the micro-stutter issue (partly resolved by turning off all motion handling settings) and the Samsung's do have lots of quality control issues with the panels. BUT if you get a good one......it's superb.
Personally I own the KS8000, as I got a good pre-xmas deal with the free UHD spinner and films. Sound, build, response time and the stand footprint are all better on the KS8000, but for the cost......the KS7000 is a great deal.
Do take note of the wide feet on the KS7000 though, as you might need to buy a pedestal stand if not wall mounting.
DevilsNeverCry
6 Mar 17#139
Awesome TV. got mine for £920 (or so after CB - PAID) in November and it is cracking.
PS4 Pro + this TV is awesome. Well worth this price.
If there is still stock in the supply chain come May/June when big companies purge the old elctronics, you may well find some better offers, but that's a risk you could take on missing out and being left with inferior TV's or the top end when the new ranges launch.
EDIT: Don't ignore the comments about the feet, you DO need a pretty sizeable TV stand if you aren't planning to wall mount.
zzak
6 Mar 17#140
Just some useful info the feet are approximately 1.1 metres apart
deb8z
6 Mar 17#141
The air would be blue if that happened to OH,we have Sky Q and I think everything records upstairs as it's never changed channels :laughing:
loadsavmoney
6 Mar 17#142
i was using a HUMAX HDR box, when it woke up to record a program the TV would switch to the HDMI that the HUMAX was using, the same will happen to anything else that powers on by itself
I wasn't disbelieving you,but we have two boxes one upstairs and one downstairs and I'm not techy but I think only the box upstairs records and OH plays the PS4 etc downstairs.
All I know is if it changed channels when he was on it the whole road would hear him going ape lol
shariifi
6 Mar 17#144
Excellent TV but price is too high. Would have voted hot if it was 65KS7000.
loadsavmoney
6 Mar 171#145
sorry for jumping to conclusions :smiley: i felt like shouting at times when the TV switched by itself too :laughing:
hopefully they'll update the firmware soon so people have the option to turn the "feature" off
Method45
6 Mar 17#146
Thanks LazyDonkey.
Does it seem like you are not getting much for the extra spent on the KS8000? Going to wall mount so the stand (and probably the look of the back) a bit of a non-issue!
matthewward710667
6 Mar 171#147
I bought this TV from Richer Sounds about 9 days ago, at £999.
Emailed them this morning asking about a price match (even though Its usually 7 days) and I got a reply within an hour refunding the £100 price drop.
10/10. Will buy big TV again.
NeilGY
7 Mar 17#148
Could anybody tell me the furthest distance between the feet, can see that it is 112cm between legs & hoping this is the furthest distance overall as my TV unit is 120cm. Cheers
zzak
7 Mar 171#149
Not completely sure what you mean by this but the actual TV is only 123cm wide. If your unit is 120cm you won't have any problems with the feet fitting on.
deb8z
7 Mar 172#150
I just measured it,that is correct at 112cm at the furthest distance,so as above it will easily fit your cabinet.
zzak
7 Mar 171#151
Gutted that my cabinet is 108cm wide. It's either go for the 49" or convince the missus we need a new TV cabinet.
I think the latter.
francesco111
7 Mar 17#152
I am ready to buy a new 65" 4k HDR TV but I don't know wich one!! Is anybody reccomending one that is pleased with!! My budget is top £1100. Ciao
LazyDonkey
7 Mar 17#153
The wide stand footprint on the KS7000 was a big issue for me, so it was a choice of buying the KS8000 or buying an expensive new cabinet / centre pedestal stand. In addition, the free UHD Blu-ray player meant that the additional cost at the time was minimal.
Based on performance you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two, apart from the extra speakers (much better sound - best I've heard on a flat screen) and the build quality. Don't be alarmed, but the back of the KS7000 is held together with double sided tape. Not an issue if wall mounting, but some owners have reported the back separating when getting warm.
lowdef
7 Mar 17#154
Really stuck between the ks7000 and the ks8000
loadsavmoney
7 Mar 17#155
if your TV cabinet isn't wide enough just buy a pedestal stand, you can get good ones for less than £40 on amazon
it might make the TV look better too, plus you can adjust the height of the TV :smiley:
Edit: oh it does fit, nice, i didn't see deb8z's comment until afterwards
Trust me, you don't love OLED more than I do, I've been waiting 2 years for the technology and standards to level out on 4k (it's an absolute disgrace what has gone on this generation, really really outrageous cynical attempt to get people to buy more AV gear year on year - i'll give you all a break down if you ask - now they are talking about HDMI 2.1, con artists the lot of them)
Anyway - Brightness isn't a problem on OLED, it just isn't. Just because this TV is brighter, doesn't mean it's better or the OLED isn't bright, just go look at one in a shop. OLED is the future, QLED is very very promising (this years QLEDs from Samsung arn't actually really QLEDs, they'll be out next year) but for sub £900 this TV is going to give you a great picture lets be honest. OLED is better but it's twice the price, I have the means to get one and I think £2k is too much for any TV. Manufactures really need to just on with FALD sets (Full Local Array Dimming - helps with blacks) and stop selling these edge lit jobbies.
Image retention has been blown out of proportion frankly, due to the fact plasmas were susceptible to this (even then they had to be abused) Image retention on very few OLEDs is COMPLETELY different, and even you are very unlucky for it to happen to you, it can be resolved pretty quickly. Also, you get 5-6year warranties on OLED sets, why is it a concern? I've not seen much with regards to motion issues - so I'll bow to your knowledge on that, but motion on LCDs in the main isn't particularly great, the response times on OLEDs (not to be confused with LAG) are much quicker, surprised motion is an issue TBH.
All that said If I was in need of a new TV now and was being sensible, I'd seriously consider this set. Hot.
hukd_addict
8 Mar 17#159
£999 is pushing past reality I'm afraid - however
LG 55EF950V - these can be had for around £1249
But really, if you are considering OLED, I would advise you not to go to an earlier model than the current one, and the cheapest current one is the b6. The others had some issues being new technology which were all resolved in the main on the b6, and - HDR, I don't know if it's important to you but I will assume you're after something really good if you're after an OLED. Models older than the b6 have a somewhat sketchy implementation of HDR, they also WILL NOT be getting an update for broadcast HDR from SKY and BBC, called Hybrid Log Gamma, HLG for short, the b6 has full implementation of HDR and has been confirmed by lg at ces that it will get the HLG update when needed, so it's really in the sweet spot now for the standards for current 4k standards, FINALLY!!
If you really want an OLED, and your budget is £1k, my best advice is to just wait, or if you can, buy a cheaper TV and use that while you wait for the prices to come down on the b6. It does look like though the prices may not come down to it's best low of £1500 before shops stop stocking it, as they are coming to the end of their manufacture, as the b7 is about to launch. I.E - shops will run out of stock before the price drops, so your only option would be a refub at a later date, personally I wouldn't touch a refurb in the case of a TV, they are usually returns for some issues. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
P.S this is hotukdeals, of course there is talk of oleds on a tv deal.... it goes like this...
TV Deals - talk of OLED
iPhone deals - everyone is an idiot who buys one and android arguments
Car deals - BMW drivers never use indicators
Audio Visual Deals - Onkyo is an unknown brand, never a joke has been over used more than this one
PS4 deals - xbox is better fanboys
Ladies underwear - everyone goes for the obligatory full size pictures
there are plenty more but I can't remember right now. Hehehe
hitsta
8 Mar 17#160
Bought this tv on the weekend and can say it's amazing for both tv and gaming. RS now have the 49" in this model for 799£ might buy this too for the other room :smirk:
Micksabhoy
8 Mar 17#161
Pics or it didn't happen
exexpat
8 Mar 17#162
Hasn't this TV got serious issues - screen winnets for one?
hitsta
8 Mar 17#163
Stand doesn't require screws (apparently) :wink:
lowdef
8 Mar 17#164
I was looking to get this set but when I looked at the Panasonics at the same price point I was blown away!
deb8z
8 Mar 171#165
I wish I hadn't Googled winnet :confused:
markoUK
8 Mar 17#166
Which model was that?
lowdef
9 Mar 17#167
The dx750
deb8z
9 Mar 17#168
No,as I recall they just slot in.
LazyDonkey
9 Mar 17#169
The DX750 is a nice TV, but it's only an 8 bit panel. It also struggles with HDR due to only being able to hit a peak of 500-nit and input lag is poor for gamers. It does have 3D though and SD content looks very good.
He even used the same text: "Everybody's favourite KS7000" :laughing:
Good work @BARKMAN...you're on fire today pal. :sunglasses:
@HUKDAdmins...you need to do something to move this site forward...ever thought introducing some "point of post" validation logic? e.g. real time price (online only) and existing active deal verification? It would save you having so many cold posts with people posting "cheaper here" comments. Oh but wait!!! I bet that's no good for driving up your site traffic and getting people to click through to retailer sites (via yours) so you can get paid...right? OK, you win...
nealbould
11 Mar 17#175
The built in speakers are better quality and the edge of the TV looks better on the higher models
MrFlux001
11 Mar 17#176
Paid £920 for mine about 3 months ago and it remains awesome. No brainer for the spec. The 20 m/s input lag time for gaming with or without HDR is especially pleasing. 10 bit panel & 1000 nits of peak brightness for HDR. Easy & fast interface too for smart apps.
nealbould
11 Mar 17#177
Just out of interest has your Samsung TV suffered with apps that hang or won't load at all after an update has been released? I was told that Panasonic, Sony and LG go to the providers of iPlayers and get them to program an app spwcifically for their TV, which minimises compatibility issues. Whereas Samsung just get an "off the shelf" iPlayer and have to debug new updates months after a new update is released. Anyone know a bit more on this please let me know.
antonyi
12 Mar 17#178
Motion blur? Retention? Do you have an OLED? I do and don't have either of them.. in fact fast moving stuff like sports look great on it. What set did you see with these things?
rob200375
13 Mar 17#179
yes its a 10bit
ducati853
14 Mar 17#180
I think I've made my mind up on purchasing this TV now. I can purchase from Curry's with a £30 discount code making it a little cheaper and they'll deliver free at the weekend. Would people still in general recommend purchasing via John Lewis for the sake of £30?
The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on this previously is that it means I'll have to upgrade my Home cinema amp also to get the most out of it as mine is not 4k hdmi compatible! Then it's 4k blu ray player, 4k streamer.... It never ends :$
francesco111
14 Mar 17#181
I am after the 65" of this model......but at £1495 is still too expensive for me!! Maybe another model with same performance like Hisense 65M7000 will do???? Any suggestions.
ducati853
14 Mar 171#182
John Lewis have agreed to price match a retailer I found selling at £845.00 so that's my cue to hit the buy button!
I have just noticed though that there are two links to this tv on that site and one is £950 and says it includes a 5 year guarantee, but so does the £845.00 within it's description in the link above! I sent JL the actual link above and they sent me an email saying they will match the price and to do so, purchase off the JL site at full price and when I have the tv, reply to the email and they will refund the difference to my payment card.
ducati853
14 Mar 17#185
I have now purchased the tv and it will be delivered Saturday
hitsta
15 Mar 17#186
850£ at pc world with code now. I purchased this on 5th march for 899£ do u think I can still get a price match refund after 10 days purchase?
deb8z
15 Mar 17#187
They price match up to 28 days but not if using a code as far as I know,you'd have to price match it against the company in post 184
hitsta
15 Mar 17#188
But isn't currys a part of pc world ?
deb8z
15 Mar 17#189
But it says in their terms about discount codes etc so it might not always work.
hitsta
15 Mar 17#190
Ahhh I c. Some one else had same issue in another post and they got it refunded so I guess it's only worth a try
hitsta
15 Mar 17#191
Update: currys said they would price match but not appliance electronics for 845 neither pc world for 850 :disappointed:
deb8z
15 Mar 17#192
Try John Lewis,that's where the other person got it.
hitsta
15 Mar 17#193
How can o try John Lewis when I purchased the tv 10 days ago from currys?
delusion
15 Mar 17#194
I just got confirmation of a John Lewis price match for £845 (appliance electronics). Happy with that so will order on the next few days if nothing better appears. :smiley:
deb8z
15 Mar 17#195
Given the thread is about a tv from John Lewis I assumed that's where you purchased it from,you never said you actually got it from Currys and my crystal ball isn't working :neutral_face:
hitsta
15 Mar 17#196
I'm sorry, I did mention I got it from currys but u may have missed my earlier post. Guess I'll just have to hope it drops on jl website so I can get a further reduction.. Apologies once again
Kraezae
15 Mar 171#197
Got this price match also! Tv has cost me pennies after I got loads of vouchers from work! :smile:
deb8z
16 Mar 17#198
In Currys terms it says they only price match up to 7 days after a purchase :
How to request a price match
We promise to match the competitor’s price available when you contact us. To request a price match for:
Online purchases, simply, call us on 0344 561 0000 – before you’ve bought from us, or up to 7 days afterwards.
In-store purchase, simply revisit the store within 7 days.
Defiant306
16 Mar 171#199
Hi Kraezae
Never done a price match with John Lewis or... well anyone ever before. Could you advise me what you did and how and also who was the competitor you used to compare with?
Thank you sir, you just saved me another £10 at John Lewis!
VimesUK
21 Mar 17#204
But it doesn't include a five years warranty as they charge extra for that Appliance Electronics ..?
NeilGY
21 Mar 17#205
Yes it will include the 5 years warranty. I've got the price match but not pulled the trigger yet (price match valid for 28 days)
VimesUK
21 Mar 17#206
Thanks I too have got the price match.
It's in my basket but not bought yet.
My Panasonic GT50 Plasma 50" is still looking good.!
What is holding you back?
NeilGY
21 Mar 17#207
The Mrs haha. Will be ordering before the 28 days are up. I went to view this tv in Currys & was very impressed
VimesUK
21 Mar 17#208
Good point.! I have the opposite issue where my wife rarely cares about me buying new technology.
I think that i have read too much about too many TV's, but it might be in this thread where someone expressed disappointment about the black levels seeming to be grey compared, to their old Plasma.
As the 2017 models are now starting to appear on the market I'm just hesitant a little at how they could affect the 2016 model prices and also that our venerable but still good GT50 might do more than hold its own.
Still this is a lot of TV for the money.
Good point about seeing it In Currys though.
NeilGY
21 Mar 17#209
I'm also thinking the same about the price dropping which may be another reason I'm holding out until the last minute but I think you can do a retrospective price match with John Lewis for a certain amount of time after purchasing if it does drop. My mind is made up already, my 6 year old Sony Bravia will be put in the bedroom & this will be the new toy
NeilGY
21 Mar 17#210
The Panasonic GT50 was another tv that was on my wish list a few years back, very nice tv
VimesUK
22 Mar 17#211
Having the GT50 is part of the problem. Each time that I have looked into buying another TV I have been disappointed somewhat when I get to see them in action and not just in their over saturated demo mode. Compared to my 2012 Plasma it is more incrementally different rather than leaps and bounds.
Also I must be the only person who would miss the active 3D on my GT50. When watching an animated movie in 3D it does come into its own.
chg
22 Mar 17#212
Thanks.
The Appliance Electronics link now showing £839 which JL have price matched for me.
Thanks again.
ktown
30 Mar 17#213
829 with pricematch. Good price
golfgti
1 Apr 17#214
please can someone tell me the size of gap of stand
tv stand 110 cm is the tv 112 cm thanks in advance
PlugExploits
8 Apr 17#215
I just got John Lewis to price match PRC Direct at £839.
DC Digital have it for £799 or £720 if you pay with bank transfer but read the website first. They are not brand new but graded A- comes with a 5 year warranty but doesn't cover lines/patches or dead pixels. I was too hasty in ordering without reading but luckily didn't make the transfer
frankdobermann1
29 Apr 17#216
Rubbish tv mines just blown after 6 hours use just went then kept turning itself on and off continually with the Samsung logo flashing!! The only way it would turn off is by unplugging. It was great until that happened although I like Samsung I don't think there TVs are any good. This is the second one I've had and maybe the last !
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http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue49ks7000-201610234374.htm
Unless you've looked at an oled set
Enter model number: ue55KS7000
Use this link for retailer website:
http://www.applianceelectronics.co.uk/viewproduct.asp?pid=11847
Add a comment noting the free delivery and that 5 year warranty is included
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I wonder if it's been price matched somewhere.
Note, the 2017 televisions are starting to be released imminently so another drop is possible.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue49ks7000-201610234374.htm
Found it for £850 here... I wish I'd waited..: http://dcdigitaltv.co.uk/product/samsung-ue55ks7000-55-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-smart-tv-2/
Excellent gaming mode with quick input response
Unless you've looked at an oled set
I don't know whether it's just him or not but he always seems to knock it on the floor when he puts it down,he blames the shape of it,it doesn't lie flat :laughing:
I think a lot of the confusion comes from the U.S. KS7000 model which isn't 10 bit.
There to get the equivalent model, you have to buy ou have to get the KS8000.
10-bit vs. 8-bit+FRC is a silly distinction because it makes such a tiny difference. There are far bigger differences in HDR hardware like local dimming ability.
Maybe:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1487744775
Don't expect the new model to be a similar price in a few months though, it's November before the prices have dropped all the way.
As you have mentioned it, whilst the peak brightness is higher on these LCD's erm.... sorry i mean LED, erm i mean LED backlit LCD... erm i mean EDGE lit LED LCD
The brightness range is more or less the same if not higher on the OLED, since although it won't reach the peak brightness of an LCD it goes a lot deeper into the black range
Peak brightness is a non selling point, (someone tell samsung) in fact i have to turn down the brightness on my OLED, its eye piercing otherwise. (if i wanted a burnt retina, i would stare at the sun thanks)
What's more important is the number of dimming zones, OLED has hundreds, and this tv has hardly any at all - and it shows
And a bright room affecting the image is mostly down to the reflective coating on the screen above anything else.
Anyway, had this TV once upon a time, and sent it back. wasn't happy with it, It is not at all comparable to an OLED, so not point mentioning them really
http://www.electronicempire.co.uk/televisions/4k-tvs/samsung-ue55ks7000-led-tv-55-suhd-smart-4k-2100-pqi-hdmi-x4-usb?zenid=tkog6n9cqj4g419jo65nae4s31
I probably love OLED more than anyone in this thread, refusing to purchase any phone without an OLED screen, but the motion blur and image retention is a deal breaker.
First off, any screen can get image retention (even CRT), image retention is no more of an issue on an OLED than it is on an LCD.
and motion blur.... where do i start here! - since we're talking about just screen technology only, and not particular TV's. LCD blurs more than OLED with motion, since OLED has a faster pixel response. It's why with LCD you get shimmering on fast moving sequences.
all in all, sounds like you're a bit confused
Oh and Quantum Dot, QLED is just buzz words, it's still LCD
As for phones, most of the top end smartphones use OLED, it's not like you need to go out of your way to get OLED screens!
by the way, any of your OLED phones have screen image retention?
i bought a UE55KS8000 and i sent it back, motion blur being the main issue
just a warning: samsungs latest TVs automatically switch to the last powered HDMI so make sure you're using a av receiver or something similar if you're using something that powers on by itself like a tv recorder box
i contacted samsung and asked for help but they said that it's a feature of the TV and cannot be turned off :confused:
the model numbers are different in this video but
8000 has a better stand and looks better than the 7000 plus it's supposed to have a slightly faster chipset so it can handle motion slightly better
9000 looks the same as the 8000 but is curved and has a better backlight
As for viewing angles they are awful but I've come from plasma .
Had to return my set and got oled instead . No comparison between the 2
Bright rooms hides the light bleed . Watching the Tv in a dark room and you no doubt see light bleed .
This is why a lot of people instal bias lighting as it hides the issue a bit ,
You are correct that it is a very bright TV though .
Viewing angles try watching from the side . Colours etc washed out and also other light issues become apparent . Also I found the picture stutters /Huddersfield somewhat on the Samsung
. I know this happens on most new TVs these days but the Samsung was too much for me.
Just my experience with the Tv , but as you mentioned oled and I gladly returned my Samsung and upgraded to an lg oled . Can't compare the 2 TVs as the oled is on a differing league ,but then it is a lot more cash to spend
1. Keeps losing wireless connection so have to keep soft resetting it or playing with DNS settings to get up iplayer or even worse still if you connect to a NAS it drops connection after 30 minutes. Common problem with no fix for the NAS issue if you Google it
2. Hardly any HD content
Do not buy a curved TV.
They are only for suckers.
Whether you take that advice is up to you, but i am really trying to help you.
Any reason you're going for the samsung?
Do you think I should get a cheaper LG or Panasonic TV instead and buy a separate Android box?
e.g.
https://www.powerdirect.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/9069/s/samsung-ue55ks7000-55-suhd-4k-smart-freeviewhd-led-tv-2100-pqi
Had the KS7000 input lag (with PS4 Pro) is amazing at the time but found out it is with out HDR enabled! and the motion on the panel looks like a 50HZ Native panel but the motion rubbish. It was stuttering and blurring and adjustment sliders either over compensated to much or not enough when you to have to readjust it constantly! (Depending on source) also the bloody panel came loose due the heat so enjoy the cheap plastic.
Switched to the 55XD8599 couldn't be happier Triluminos (i.e. more advanced quantum dot) and the motion handling is ideal for what I use it for the android software does have a learning curve but when you understand it works better than the Tizen software plus Chromecast (Googlecast what ever the difference is!) works really well. Input lag is not as fast but with HDR enabled at all times much more ideal.
Bang on? i only mentioned it in relation to brightness, and in fact I didn't bring up OLED, a ridiculous comparison was made, so I put it right. And will continue to do so when i see rubbish posted.
Less clutter but there are better standalone Kodi devices, most can be attached directly to the back of the TV to avoid any extra clutter.
I guess it depends what sort of content you are streaming via Kodi, but the nVidia shield paired with a decent TV (smart or non smart - the shield does what most smart tv's can do but better) is the ideal combination imo, but then it isn;t necessarily the cheapest option.
Is your TV the only decent thing you own ?
P.s i deleted the posts, after the lack of thanks decided i would rather idiots waste their money, fool and his money easily parted and all that.
Yeah, i just have a TV, in an empty room, that's it
Was there anything else? as we're going off topic now
What oled TV would you recommend for the same price as the Samsung UE49KS9000?
Last time I looked at OLED, the OLED55B6V which is a 55", 4K display was around double the price of this set and not much being cheaper.
If there are cheaper sets with a spec similar, could someone point them out? If not, all this OLED talk little more than "Something that costs twice the price is better"....yeahhhh, that's a given.
Saying all that, i do wonder why people purchase a new TV primarily for the supposedly superior 4K image over their current HD, but then cheap out on the panel, rendering the upgrade near pointless..
it's a bit like replacing your 358 Ferrari for a replica Enzo costing more money..... ok it looks the part, but it ain't an Enzo, you may as well have stuck with what you had.
That's just my opinion, and no reflection on this particular 'deal' itself, i would imagine if this is the TV you want, although its been cheaper in the past, it's going to save you some money!
Also, if you really wanted, you can find a used OLED panel for this kind of money from people upgrading .on avforums
However, having said that, any HD OLED will beat this '4k' TV in image quality, glad i could help
Don't have anything, remember.. It's just me and my TV (refer post #80)
Anyway, guys n gals, didn't want a full on OLED vs LCD debate, neither was i comparing this TV price wise with an OLED, that's not what this was meant to be, and i fear this is going off topic
i feel already made my point...
So, bye for now!..........it's been emotional.... :smile:
I will also look out for any deals on keyboards for you,as I'm sure the letters O,L,E,D are well worn out on yours :laughing:
Go to the bottom of the page and click on the europe tabs to see a great comparison table for the models. This is also a great article that looks at all the 2016 Samsung range, huge amount of info. Hope that helps
https://www.avforums.com/threads/samsung-ue-ks7000-7500-owners-thread.2030515/
Not that I am unimpressed with the Hisense but I do like Samsung kit.
Even the 58" Panny DX902b is £300 cheaper than the 55" LG B6 at £1699 and if anyone comes out with the nonsense that its a lesser TV because its LED vs OLED then they need a right good slap. It may be older tech but its still a damn fine TV for the money.
https://www.powerdirect.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/9069/s/samsung-ue55ks7000-55-suhd-4k-smart-freeviewhd-led-tv-2100-pqi/?gclid=CJiondDivdICFcSfGwodmtECNQ
I'm pleased you are enjoying your panel, but I would rather keep that extra money in pocket and let people like you subsidize the tech, so people like me can pick up a superior panel in 5 years time for a fraction of the cost, that is the price you pay as an early adopter.
For future reference, you convey the positives of OLED terribly. There are people of all sorts of professions who view this website, you portray someone who seems to either just want justify their purchase, or over defensive of the tech, rather than a passionate endorser.
Edit: I don't own the TV yet, but fully aware of the motion blur / judder problem - it has been widely reported you just need to adjust the auto motion option to fix this, always try this before sending the TV back.
UPDATE- just found out Currys price match JL up to 7 days after you make a purchase!! Wooho!
for example, you have a PS4 and a SKY HD box plugged into the TV, if the SKY HD box powers on to record a TV program, the TV will change the channel for you and there's nothing you can do about it, there's no off option, samsung say it's a feature that can't be turned off
The TV would switch channels while i was in the middle of a game and display a black no signal screen
early adopter? you think people who buy now are subsidizing the tech? OLED has been out a long while now it's not new anymore.
Your logic is somewhat flawed though because price dropping to the level of LCD requires some form of competition, and the only company able to manufacture OLED screens large enough and cheaply enough are LG
Sony and Panasonic will be using LG screens in their upcoming OLED lines, so i don't see this price drop you're waiting for anytime soon. LG set and control the prices.
I am not justifying my purchase at all, just correcting those who are posting on here without a clue what they're talking about! - This includes you, go read the avforums entire thread regarding motion judder, one was fixed in an update almost a year ago now, and the other is normal telecine judder more apparent on an OLED since it has a faster pixel reponse than LCD. So LCD would blur the image, and OLED you get a slight judder, These are source issues and not faults with the TV.
Personally, i couldn't give a monkeys what TV you purchase, but will correct you if you post nonsense
Only asking as i'm so tempted to order this tv but would also be using IPTV and don't want to run into these problems.
Cheers
OLED does suffer from screen burn more than some other technologies.
In fact screen burn is specifically excluded from the warranty of OLED, that is in the manual, and the LG website goes to great lenghts explaining built in technology to reduce image retention.
OLED display is also managed to prevent it happening, its near impossible to get screen burn on the current line of LG TV's, even if you disable all the protection features, such as pixel shift...the OLED light will actively dim itself when no motion is detected.
image retention is not an issue
Anyway, think that's enough of this nonsense now :smile:
Any help appreciated.
Based on pricepoint and based on the features THIS TV provides you with, there is great value for money. People always talk about what other TVs offer 'OLED' blah blah blah but fact of the matter is, you're looking at the KS7000 and if your budget is sub £900 then you will be hard pushed to get something with more bang for your buck. I'm not saying you can't, but it's a challenge. Every single TV will have some form of minor viewing problem like the aforementioned that users have stated above.
The TV is great though, I highly recommend it. In it's own right, it's brilliant value.
The KS7000 suffers with the micro-stutter issue (partly resolved by turning off all motion handling settings) and the Samsung's do have lots of quality control issues with the panels. BUT if you get a good one......it's superb.
Personally I own the KS8000, as I got a good pre-xmas deal with the free UHD spinner and films. Sound, build, response time and the stand footprint are all better on the KS8000, but for the cost......the KS7000 is a great deal.
Do take note of the wide feet on the KS7000 though, as you might need to buy a pedestal stand if not wall mounting.
PS4 Pro + this TV is awesome. Well worth this price.
If there is still stock in the supply chain come May/June when big companies purge the old elctronics, you may well find some better offers, but that's a risk you could take on missing out and being left with inferior TV's or the top end when the new ranges launch.
EDIT: Don't ignore the comments about the feet, you DO need a pretty sizeable TV stand if you aren't planning to wall mount.
i just googled and found this, if you want proof here it is:...
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/TVs/Turn-off-auto-detect-HDMI/td-p/2578
All I know is if it changed channels when he was on it the whole road would hear him going ape lol
hopefully they'll update the firmware soon so people have the option to turn the "feature" off
Does it seem like you are not getting much for the extra spent on the KS8000? Going to wall mount so the stand (and probably the look of the back) a bit of a non-issue!
Emailed them this morning asking about a price match (even though Its usually 7 days) and I got a reply within an hour refunding the £100 price drop.
10/10. Will buy big TV again.
I think the latter.
Based on performance you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two, apart from the extra speakers (much better sound - best I've heard on a flat screen) and the build quality. Don't be alarmed, but the back of the KS7000 is held together with double sided tape. Not an issue if wall mounting, but some owners have reported the back separating when getting warm.
it might make the TV look better too, plus you can adjust the height of the TV :smiley:
Edit: oh it does fit, nice, i didn't see deb8z's comment until afterwards
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Guernsey.Ebay/
Anyway - Brightness isn't a problem on OLED, it just isn't. Just because this TV is brighter, doesn't mean it's better or the OLED isn't bright, just go look at one in a shop. OLED is the future, QLED is very very promising (this years QLEDs from Samsung arn't actually really QLEDs, they'll be out next year) but for sub £900 this TV is going to give you a great picture lets be honest. OLED is better but it's twice the price, I have the means to get one and I think £2k is too much for any TV. Manufactures really need to just on with FALD sets (Full Local Array Dimming - helps with blacks) and stop selling these edge lit jobbies.
Image retention has been blown out of proportion frankly, due to the fact plasmas were susceptible to this (even then they had to be abused) Image retention on very few OLEDs is COMPLETELY different, and even you are very unlucky for it to happen to you, it can be resolved pretty quickly. Also, you get 5-6year warranties on OLED sets, why is it a concern? I've not seen much with regards to motion issues - so I'll bow to your knowledge on that, but motion on LCDs in the main isn't particularly great, the response times on OLEDs (not to be confused with LAG) are much quicker, surprised motion is an issue TBH.
All that said If I was in need of a new TV now and was being sensible, I'd seriously consider this set. Hot.
LG 55EF950V - these can be had for around £1249
But really, if you are considering OLED, I would advise you not to go to an earlier model than the current one, and the cheapest current one is the b6. The others had some issues being new technology which were all resolved in the main on the b6, and - HDR, I don't know if it's important to you but I will assume you're after something really good if you're after an OLED. Models older than the b6 have a somewhat sketchy implementation of HDR, they also WILL NOT be getting an update for broadcast HDR from SKY and BBC, called Hybrid Log Gamma, HLG for short, the b6 has full implementation of HDR and has been confirmed by lg at ces that it will get the HLG update when needed, so it's really in the sweet spot now for the standards for current 4k standards, FINALLY!!
If you really want an OLED, and your budget is £1k, my best advice is to just wait, or if you can, buy a cheaper TV and use that while you wait for the prices to come down on the b6. It does look like though the prices may not come down to it's best low of £1500 before shops stop stocking it, as they are coming to the end of their manufacture, as the b7 is about to launch. I.E - shops will run out of stock before the price drops, so your only option would be a refub at a later date, personally I wouldn't touch a refurb in the case of a TV, they are usually returns for some issues. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
P.S this is hotukdeals, of course there is talk of oleds on a tv deal.... it goes like this...
TV Deals - talk of OLED
iPhone deals - everyone is an idiot who buys one and android arguments
Car deals - BMW drivers never use indicators
Audio Visual Deals - Onkyo is an unknown brand, never a joke has been over used more than this one
PS4 deals - xbox is better fanboys
Ladies underwear - everyone goes for the obligatory full size pictures
there are plenty more but I can't remember right now. Hehehe
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/samsung-ue55ks7000-ks-7000-55inch-899-pc-world-currys-2597894
He even used the same text: "Everybody's favourite KS7000" :laughing:
Good work @BARKMAN...you're on fire today pal. :sunglasses:
@HUKDAdmins...you need to do something to move this site forward...ever thought introducing some "point of post" validation logic? e.g. real time price (online only) and existing active deal verification? It would save you having so many cold posts with people posting "cheaper here" comments. Oh but wait!!! I bet that's no good for driving up your site traffic and getting people to click through to retailer sites (via yours) so you can get paid...right? OK, you win...
The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on this previously is that it means I'll have to upgrade my Home cinema amp also to get the most out of it as mine is not 4k hdmi compatible! Then it's 4k blu ray player, 4k streamer.... It never ends :$
I have just noticed though that there are two links to this tv on that site and one is £950 and says it includes a 5 year guarantee, but so does the £845.00 within it's description in the link above! I sent JL the actual link above and they sent me an email saying they will match the price and to do so, purchase off the JL site at full price and when I have the tv, reply to the email and they will refund the difference to my payment card.
How to request a price match
We promise to match the competitor’s price available when you contact us. To request a price match for:
Online purchases, simply, call us on 0344 561 0000 – before you’ve bought from us, or up to 7 days afterwards.
In-store purchase, simply revisit the store within 7 days.
Never done a price match with John Lewis or... well anyone ever before. Could you advise me what you did and how and also who was the competitor you used to compare with?
Thanks
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Enter model number: ue55KS7000
Use this link for retailer website:
http://www.applianceelectronics.co.uk/viewproduct.asp?pid=11847
Add a comment noting the free delivery and that 5 year warranty is included
It's in my basket but not bought yet.
My Panasonic GT50 Plasma 50" is still looking good.!
What is holding you back?
I think that i have read too much about too many TV's, but it might be in this thread where someone expressed disappointment about the black levels seeming to be grey compared, to their old Plasma.
As the 2017 models are now starting to appear on the market I'm just hesitant a little at how they could affect the 2016 model prices and also that our venerable but still good GT50 might do more than hold its own.
Still this is a lot of TV for the money.
Good point about seeing it In Currys though.
Also I must be the only person who would miss the active 3D on my GT50. When watching an animated movie in 3D it does come into its own.
The Appliance Electronics link now showing £839 which JL have price matched for me.
Thanks again.
tv stand 110 cm is the tv 112 cm thanks in advance
DC Digital have it for £799 or £720 if you pay with bank transfer but read the website first. They are not brand new but graded A- comes with a 5 year warranty but doesn't cover lines/patches or dead pixels. I was too hasty in ordering without reading but luckily didn't make the transfer