Pretty simple offer on the LG 43UH603V 4K UHD HDR TV, it comes with a 6 year guarantee and when you enter the checkout page, at the bottom it says, "I have a giftcard/voucher" click on this and enter FLASH30 to receive an extra £30 off. You can get free delivery too, so for a 43 inch 4K HDR TV for only £369, not bad I reckon.
Should be illegal imo to advertise as 4k but they get round it because if the source material is a black and white image its ok.
Example images of a 4k TV versus the LG, notice how it handles colour.
4k TV
LGs non 4k TV
shifty277
16 Mar 175#30
IMHO everyone needs to calm down on the 4k tv situation, the 4k picture is still incredibly foggy.
In the UK there is hardly any channels in true 4k HDR (HDR is what sets 4k apart from full 1080p not the 4k pixels). Maybe 5 channels on Sky, Virgin, BT?
As well the 4k blu ray players are like £300.
Unless you're children have accidentally broken your tv or it broke by itself wait another 2 years for the ultra hd certified tv's to come down in price (£1k is the cheapest right now). Also let the content providers start putting out 4k HDR as DEFAULT.
Right now stick to Full HD Youtube, Netflix (all of netflix), Amazon Prime (Same) and all of the freeview and pay tv providers.
Right now everyone throwing their self in the 4k pit is just a BETA tester it is as simple as that. Unless you are buying every single 4k HDR bluray and watching these with your 7.1 surround system that is to really be watching true 4k all the time.
jaydeeuk1 to ramiuk1
16 Mar 173#16
Its not HDR capable (as said above it'll accept a HDR signal and shove something overly saturated out the other end) and it isn't 4k either, its 2.8k. Infact I wouldn't buy any set that doesn't do what it says out of principle regardless of how cheap it is. Shame, as their OLED lines are the best in the business (or were until Philips did one)
It may also be worth checking Amazon for the 43UH610V as it seems to yoyo in price. I picked it up for £329 on Monday.
Voted hot for this though as it comes with the 6 year warranty.
machomansavage
17 Mar 17#57
Hate the stands legs too far apart
lrbaumard
17 Mar 17#56
Bought this TV for this price, no sale/ promo 3 months ago.
Price has actually gone up, worth baring in mind if u think this is an amazing deal and rush to get it
rickinyorkshire
17 Mar 171#43
Wow people need to keep their pants on the whole 4k/HDR thing. Like any technology, you can wait a few years for the best sets NOW to become cheaper, but by then there will be something new.. and the cycle continues and always will.
afroylnt to rickinyorkshire
17 Mar 17#55
4k is a bit a very very expensive car fuel that gives slightly better performance; for most the extra cost of good 4k feeds are'nt worth it but its an individual choice.
fearona
17 Mar 17#54
Firestick is plugged into usb on my tv as is hdmi splitter/hdd as required, having only one is cheapskate.
StevenBrown
16 Mar 17#38
43"
ollie87 to StevenBrown
17 Mar 171#53
When I'm scrolling through HUKD threads and I see the first dumb comment.
ade12000
17 Mar 17#52
cold its not apple
PhilK
17 Mar 17#51
Too small for my living room needs, but a nice deal
steevio_uk
17 Mar 17#50
1440 then? What exactly sets apart the real 4k and the fake 4k?
I've seen variations based on colour and white pixels, but thought that was more to do with the colour, than resolution?
A 32" Television is the correct size television, for the correct sized room.
StevenBrown to steevio_uk
16 Mar 17#41
it was meant as a joke but since I triggered you I will mention that 4k has next to no benefit on less than a 48" unless you sit within 6ft of the thing, with 43" that is probably shortened to 4-5ft
AnimeDude92
16 Mar 17#40
Voted hot, but for me as long as it does 1080p for my ps4 I don't give an ****. Also my wallet is empty buying too many games.... :disappointed: great deal though, if you give a **** about 4k right now.
ramiuk1
16 Mar 17#37
Only lg use this sub pixel, it's on Al of there 600 series I think.
There super uhd tv's 700 series and up are real 4k,
The white sub pixel idea was taken from there oleds which use 4 sub pixels instead of the normal 3(red,blue,green)
EndlessWaves
16 Mar 171#36
HDR is a set of technologies and this TV only supports the software side of it. The display hardware is unchanged from a non-HDR TV. So while the output will be different as it's processing the HDR content differently don't expect it to look anything like an HDR demo model.
Whether that's 'HDR' is not is open to debate, but it's definitely best considered a minor bonus - buying this for it's HDR would be silly.
It's LG's UH600 to UH750 range that use it.
Although the resolution is generally not a big deal. 4K is such a stupidly high resolution that downgrading it a bit doesn't affect the picture quality. Even the HDTV test linked above said they couldn't see any difference in detailing in normal use, and only pointed out the colour desaturation that comes from having white subpixels (which also happens with full 4K RGBW sets like LG's OLEDs).
The most common use you'd want to avoid buying this for is PC desktop use where you need both fine detail (small text) and are sitting very close to it.
For normal TV use it wouldn't bother me at all and it's far from the most tenuous claim a TV manufacturer makes.
4K and HDR are separate technologies. Plenty of 4K sets such as this one have no effective HDR support and Sony is bringing out some Full HD HDR sets this year like the WE75.
HDR is a relatively low bandwidth improvement that everyone can see, unlike 4K which is demanding and only a big deal on really big TVs. It wouldn't surprise me to see HDR broadcasting being prioritised ahead of 4K.
Bakerdave
16 Mar 17#35
Yes it did go over my head but thanks for the reply.
afroylnt
16 Mar 17#34
good price but after a 48-50 screen size.
shifty277
16 Mar 175#30
IMHO everyone needs to calm down on the 4k tv situation, the 4k picture is still incredibly foggy.
In the UK there is hardly any channels in true 4k HDR (HDR is what sets 4k apart from full 1080p not the 4k pixels). Maybe 5 channels on Sky, Virgin, BT?
As well the 4k blu ray players are like £300.
Unless you're children have accidentally broken your tv or it broke by itself wait another 2 years for the ultra hd certified tv's to come down in price (£1k is the cheapest right now). Also let the content providers start putting out 4k HDR as DEFAULT.
Right now stick to Full HD Youtube, Netflix (all of netflix), Amazon Prime (Same) and all of the freeview and pay tv providers.
Right now everyone throwing their self in the 4k pit is just a BETA tester it is as simple as that. Unless you are buying every single 4k HDR bluray and watching these with your 7.1 surround system that is to really be watching true 4k all the time.
afroylnt to shifty277
16 Mar 17#33
Agree...
ramiuk1
16 Mar 171#32
Yeah I feel same way mate, be honest and I will buy your product.
Claiming its 4k when it's 2.8k die to the white sub pixel every 4 pixels is wrong and shouldn't be allowed imo.
I have a 770u and it had the full 4k and looks amazing, wouldn't touch the lower end models, same with Samsung and even some of the other brands lower models.
The industry should be forced to label like so
4k if 4k subpixels other wise it's not.
Hdr8 8 bit panel
Hdr10 10bit panel
Not use there own names, same with the refresh rate crap, that should be a standard figure too
Strafin
16 Mar 171#31
Yeah but anything from Argos breaks after a year and they won't honour manufacturers guarantees.
steevio_uk
16 Mar 17#29
Given his original question mate, with respect gmd, that's gonna fly right over his head.
gmd - Yes, it will work. Also, you have the option of installing Kodi directly on to the television.
joesackey
16 Mar 17#28
Nope it was £200
jaydeeuk1
16 Mar 172#27
LG use it in some of their LCD tvs (not all). So basically avoid LG and you're fine. LG also supply panels to other manufacturers, I think philips use them too. Sony and samsung definitely don't, the vestel rebadged sets from panasonic, hitachi, bush etc sets don't (but they have their own issues). I think hisense are safe, the h50m3300 is often available for under £400 and probably the one i'd go for if £400 was my budget.
Bakerdave
16 Mar 17#8
Can you use a kodi fire stick with this LG ? Cheers
fearona to Bakerdave
16 Mar 171#11
You can use a firestick with any hdmi tv.
gmdlogan to Bakerdave
16 Mar 17#25
You would be better off subbing to a decent iptv service through the android on the TV.
WitchesHat
16 Mar 17#24
Just seen the one only comment! :-)
WitchesHat
16 Mar 17#23
£400 on amazon?
buckbyter
16 Mar 17#22
Thanks for the info - looks a bit 'tricky' to call it full 4K...
CivRules
16 Mar 17#21
Thank you for this info, however, could please answer the original question. I'd like to know HOW spot the difference. Is there an Icon/Word/category that states what is true 4K, basically what should we be looking for?
hotdealuser
16 Mar 171#20
hot for 6 year guarantee..
fearona
16 Mar 171#10
Nearly bought this tuesday, drawback for me was only 1 usb.
Should be illegal imo to advertise as 4k but they get round it because if the source material is a black and white image its ok.
Example images of a 4k TV versus the LG, notice how it handles colour.
4k TV
LGs non 4k TV
buckbyter
16 Mar 171#17
jaydeeuk1,
Just so I know what to look out for, please can you clarify why this isn't true 4K? it say "Pixel resolution - Horizontal x vertical 3840 x 2160" which I thought is 4K. Is it something to do with white pixels that ramiuk1 mentioned?
ramiuk1
16 Mar 172#3
Isn't hdr though is it, it can read hdr but not display it if I remember right, also is sub 4k due to how the pixels work.
Having a white sub pixel every do often
CivRules to ramiuk1
16 Mar 171#4
I'd love to say I have an answer for your query, but I do not. It's just something I noticed earlier today and thought might be a good deal for someone wanting/needing a cheap 4K for the bedroom or kids room.
jaydeeuk1 to ramiuk1
16 Mar 173#16
Its not HDR capable (as said above it'll accept a HDR signal and shove something overly saturated out the other end) and it isn't 4k either, its 2.8k. Infact I wouldn't buy any set that doesn't do what it says out of principle regardless of how cheap it is. Shame, as their OLED lines are the best in the business (or were until Philips did one)
dezbo8888
16 Mar 17#15
yeah just John Lewis beat them on price for 2 tvs I bought in January there plus free delivery (same warranty )
XP200
16 Mar 172#14
Like most 4k Tv's that are not in the four figure sum, they will be 8bit panels, but do not let that dissuade you from what they offer, you will still see a difference in HDR content from a none HDr tv, and price for bang for buck for buck at the moment means these Tv's are cracking value for what you are getting until the 10bit panels drop down to a cost that does not involve one day of parliamentary expenses fiddling. :wink:
dezbo8888
16 Mar 17#9
Richer sounds seem to be getting expensive
fearona to dezbo8888
16 Mar 17#13
I find them very competitive, and staff are excellent for advice.
ghostm4n
16 Mar 171#12
But only 1 year warranty unless I just can't see it listed elsewhere on there. Couldn't imagine buying a large screen TV without a 5 year warranty now.
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http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/rgbw-201510084189.htm
Should be illegal imo to advertise as 4k but they get round it because if the source material is a black and white image its ok.
Example images of a 4k TV versus the LG, notice how it handles colour.
4k TV
LGs non 4k TV
In the UK there is hardly any channels in true 4k HDR (HDR is what sets 4k apart from full 1080p not the 4k pixels). Maybe 5 channels on Sky, Virgin, BT?
As well the 4k blu ray players are like £300.
Unless you're children have accidentally broken your tv or it broke by itself wait another 2 years for the ultra hd certified tv's to come down in price (£1k is the cheapest right now). Also let the content providers start putting out 4k HDR as DEFAULT.
Right now stick to Full HD Youtube, Netflix (all of netflix), Amazon Prime (Same) and all of the freeview and pay tv providers.
Right now everyone throwing their self in the 4k pit is just a BETA tester it is as simple as that. Unless you are buying every single 4k HDR bluray and watching these with your 7.1 surround system that is to really be watching true 4k all the time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5oI_sbLkg
Voted hot for this though as it comes with the 6 year warranty.
Price has actually gone up, worth baring in mind if u think this is an amazing deal and rush to get it
I've seen variations based on colour and white pixels, but thought that was more to do with the colour, than resolution?
Is that one in the link 'true' 4k?
See http://www.richersounds.com/information/pricebeat
A 32" Television is the correct size television, for the correct sized room.
There super uhd tv's 700 series and up are real 4k,
The white sub pixel idea was taken from there oleds which use 4 sub pixels instead of the normal 3(red,blue,green)
Whether that's 'HDR' is not is open to debate, but it's definitely best considered a minor bonus - buying this for it's HDR would be silly.
It's LG's UH600 to UH750 range that use it.
Although the resolution is generally not a big deal. 4K is such a stupidly high resolution that downgrading it a bit doesn't affect the picture quality. Even the HDTV test linked above said they couldn't see any difference in detailing in normal use, and only pointed out the colour desaturation that comes from having white subpixels (which also happens with full 4K RGBW sets like LG's OLEDs).
The most common use you'd want to avoid buying this for is PC desktop use where you need both fine detail (small text) and are sitting very close to it.
For normal TV use it wouldn't bother me at all and it's far from the most tenuous claim a TV manufacturer makes.
4K and HDR are separate technologies. Plenty of 4K sets such as this one have no effective HDR support and Sony is bringing out some Full HD HDR sets this year like the WE75.
HDR is a relatively low bandwidth improvement that everyone can see, unlike 4K which is demanding and only a big deal on really big TVs. It wouldn't surprise me to see HDR broadcasting being prioritised ahead of 4K.
In the UK there is hardly any channels in true 4k HDR (HDR is what sets 4k apart from full 1080p not the 4k pixels). Maybe 5 channels on Sky, Virgin, BT?
As well the 4k blu ray players are like £300.
Unless you're children have accidentally broken your tv or it broke by itself wait another 2 years for the ultra hd certified tv's to come down in price (£1k is the cheapest right now). Also let the content providers start putting out 4k HDR as DEFAULT.
Right now stick to Full HD Youtube, Netflix (all of netflix), Amazon Prime (Same) and all of the freeview and pay tv providers.
Right now everyone throwing their self in the 4k pit is just a BETA tester it is as simple as that. Unless you are buying every single 4k HDR bluray and watching these with your 7.1 surround system that is to really be watching true 4k all the time.
Claiming its 4k when it's 2.8k die to the white sub pixel every 4 pixels is wrong and shouldn't be allowed imo.
I have a 770u and it had the full 4k and looks amazing, wouldn't touch the lower end models, same with Samsung and even some of the other brands lower models.
The industry should be forced to label like so
4k if 4k subpixels other wise it's not.
Hdr8 8 bit panel
Hdr10 10bit panel
Not use there own names, same with the refresh rate crap, that should be a standard figure too
gmd - Yes, it will work. Also, you have the option of installing Kodi directly on to the television.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/rgbw-201510084189.htm
Should be illegal imo to advertise as 4k but they get round it because if the source material is a black and white image its ok.
Example images of a 4k TV versus the LG, notice how it handles colour.
4k TV
LGs non 4k TV
Just so I know what to look out for, please can you clarify why this isn't true 4K? it say "Pixel resolution - Horizontal x vertical 3840 x 2160" which I thought is 4K. Is it something to do with white pixels that ramiuk1 mentioned?
Having a white sub pixel every do often