To put it another way, a £300 1700 putting out 65W will blow the socks off a delidded, overclocked, binned 7700K costing nearly twice as much in any heavily multithreaded workload. It'll beat many of the X99 chips costing even more.

Will the 7700K be better for gaming - yup. Will Ryzen game well - yup, AMD have just made different compromises.

The 1700 looks like a total bargain. If I hadn't just bought a cheap 5820K setup I'd be moving to Ryzen and not a 7700K.

think ill stick with my i5 6600

​i wouldn't trust flubit for something expensive no tracking and no receipt for warranty

Good deal for a cracking CPU.

This thread isn't worth the debate though, if you want decent conversation with informed view points (apparently 1 YouTube video doesn't account for gospel in the real world) take it over to Anandtech.

Waste of breath trying to convince people one is better than the other and if they want to keep investing in a dead socket, let them.

only 100mhz overclock :disappointed:
U canna be serious man :wink:

That 3.8GHz is on 1 core boost, it usually hangs around 3.5GHz on all cores without OC

Isn't the 1700, non X, considered the best R7, less power, runs cooler and still overclocks.

Think it also comes with a stock cooler?

If you use Flubit you can get the standard 1700 65W Ryzen for £295 Inc (RRP £319). Don't forget Topcashback of 1.1% as well.

think ill stick with my i5 6600

pay on credit card and you're covered either way

have we got passmark etc yet? my xeon e5620 is about 5000 1

9% off with flubit makes it £334.49.