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13 KG Butane gas cylinder £19.99 delivered. Gas deals direct. Possible £5 credit for extra empties
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wolvesinwales
17 Mar 17
This deal is on again but this time they are offering a £5 credit for any additional empty gas bottles you might have.
In the past they have never asked for an empty cylinder so maybe some people might have an empty or 2 hanging about. Sadly I got rid of 2 when i moved house recently.
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andynicol to frazman
18 Mar 17 3 #35
Yes it's perfectly fine for you to use butane for your Weber BBQ.

You will need to change the regulator, 13kg butane requires a 21mm clip on regulator, £8.99 @ GasDeal or available online eBay or Amazon etc ; example
tek-monkey to argosextra
18 Mar 17 3 #16
Burn it?
watson44 to NAZ17
17 Mar 17 3 #9
A NEW Full Bottle (No empty to return) £20.99
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Derek_Duval
17 Mar 17 #1
Only £1 for return of 13kg butane, £5 for various propane cylinders. Good deal though, heat.
msharif911 to Derek_Duval
18 Mar 17 #38
I use this brand and get nothing from my local place for returning the cylinders. Over the years I could have accumulated a small mountain of them.
msharif911 to Derek_Duval
18 Mar 17 #39
I use this brand and get nothing from my local place for returning the cylinders. Over the years I could have accumulated a small mountain of them.


Calor charge you quite a hefty "deposit! for their bottles initially and are more expensive on the gas than Flo-Gas.
msharif911 to Derek_Duval
18 Mar 17 #40
I use this brand and get nothing from my local place for returning the cylinders. Over the years I could have accumulated a small mountain of them.


Calor charge you quite a hefty "deposit! for their bottles initially and are more expensive on the gas than Flo-Gas.
Keith9534
17 Mar 17 1 #2
Not liking the "we will decide if the cylinder return is worth the credit".....can`t help feeling this will happen quite a lot!
lindus to Keith9534
17 Mar 17 #6
​It's a pound mate? and this is near half the price of calor
supersue to Keith9534
18 Mar 17 1 #14
Disgraceful way of doing business - "send it to us and you won't get it back - we might pay or we might not, whatever we feel like!" :man:
Keith9534
17 Mar 17 #3
Heat for the deal though
NAZ17
17 Mar 17 2 #4
Slightly misleading as you have to have a empty cylinder to get the price ....
watson44 to NAZ17
17 Mar 17 3 #9
A NEW Full Bottle (No empty to return) £20.99
staffs1959 to NAZ17
18 Mar 17 #32
Yes.. but it's only £1 more if you dont have an empty.. Still a good deal.
shug119
17 Mar 17 #5
Hot
lindus
17 Mar 17 #7
ordered again I been gettin since last time it's as good as calor 2kg less for near 20 bucks less.
lindus
17 Mar 17 #8
HAWWWT <3<3<3<3
sunil237
17 Mar 17 #10
is this deal on often?
sunil237 to sunil237
17 Mar 17 #12
How many BBQ's would you expect to get out of a bottle?
andynicol to sunil237
18 Mar 17 #30
In short no.

They dont normally give money off for return of empty cylinders, but there normal price for 13kg of butane is £23.99.

Even without an empty to enable you to get 13kg of butane for £19.99, £20.99 is excellent value.
argosextra
17 Mar 17 1 #11
What do you guys do with the gas any ideas
aishakhan894 to argosextra
18 Mar 17 #13
+1
tek-monkey to argosextra
18 Mar 17 3 #16
Burn it?
lindus to argosextra
18 Mar 17 #18
​portable gas fire patio heater bbq
f3rgy15
18 Mar 17 1 #15
I have an empty bottle like this which i need to get rid!
lindus to f3rgy15
18 Mar 17 #20
​ul get a pound!
Keith9534
18 Mar 17 #17
Exactly! They are going to quibble over giving you a pound after you do them a MASSIVE favour of giving them back something they can re-sell! It should be money back no quibble.....would rather keep giving them to my local craft person to turn into stoves
lindus
18 Mar 17 1 #19
​It's a pound for god sake
rotor
18 Mar 17 2 #21
That's criminal damage!

You buy the gas in the bottle - the bottle remains the property of the company (flo gas). This is just an incentive to get people to return the bottles quicker instead of sitting on them
marlot
18 Mar 17 2 #22
If its a calor bottle, get a minimum £7.50 back at this link

https://www.calor.co.uk/unwanted-calor-bottle-return
supersue to marlot
18 Mar 17 #23
Thanks for this - much better arrangement :innocent:
Wolfylee
18 Mar 17 #24
Is this better than their propane at £24.99 for 18kg?
craiger082
18 Mar 17 #25
Glad i get my 47kg bottles for £47 heat for these small ones tho.
loofer
18 Mar 17 #26
Difference between propane and butane please? I could google that but I'm not after the chemical differences but rather the practical differences for domestic use.
andynicol to loofer
18 Mar 17 2 #29
Google also gives you the information you seek, but off the top of my head ;

Butane burns at a lower temperature than propane,(thus propane normally used for patio heaters)

Propane has a lower freezing point than butane, thus commonly stored outside (caravans etc) and sees no adverse affects (in normal UK weather certainly)

Butane is normally cheaper.

Basics which I think your looking for...?
Keith9534
18 Mar 17 #27
Thats possible too...but if they charge a fee for the first bottle and then want to give you a MASSIVE reduction for the return of the bottle its no wonder they are not getting them back
Bervie
18 Mar 17 #28
Been using them for a couple of years , good service and cheapest in my area.
cjx
18 Mar 17 #31
Thinking of getting a patio heater this year. Any idea how many hours one of these would last on full?
frazman
18 Mar 17 #33
Stupid question alert. We've got a Webber bbq which i tried to get a replacment cylinder for last year, the one I have is a 6.3kg propane but the local garage changed suppliers and the replacement cylinder I bought from the garage wasn't compatible with my attachment on the Webber, so I returned it and got my old empty cyclinder back which has been stuck in the garage.

So I assume i'd need some sort of adapter to run Butane on the Webber BBQ ? does anyone have any experience of this and which adapter I would need and is it ok to use butane instead of propane for a BBQ?


Hope this makes sense and many thanks for nay help.
andynicol to frazman
18 Mar 17 3 #35
Yes it's perfectly fine for you to use butane for your Weber BBQ.

You will need to change the regulator, 13kg butane requires a 21mm clip on regulator, £8.99 @ GasDeal or available online eBay or Amazon etc ; example
sunil237
18 Mar 17 #34
Thanks, I don't have a bottle, and won't be needing this till the end of the year, so I will probably just pay the extra few pounds and have it delivered to my new home, cheers for that
Monkeybumcheeks
18 Mar 17 #36
Cheaper at Woldlink...not just for these but any bottled gas at any size...just saying.
Monkeybumcheeks
18 Mar 17 #37
msharif911
18 Mar 17 1 #41
Its £22.95 on your link for the same size bottle. How is that cheaper?
msharif911
18 Mar 17 1 #42
They are selling the right regulator on their site. Its a simple small jubilee clip to undo and redo with the new one.
lindus
18 Mar 17 1 #43
about a month tops
frazman
18 Mar 17 #44
Forgot to ask I have a 6.3kg propane bottle , I assume the exchange credit of £5 is only if i had the same 13kg size? in which case i wont qualify?
supersue
18 Mar 17 #45
If you read the small print, even if your bottles "qualify" you may not receive any credits if they don't feel like paying them to you - and they still get to keep your bottles, either way!
winbig82
18 Mar 17 #46
Hot!!!!
cjx
18 Mar 17 #47
How many hours use would that be. If you only have a couple of hours a weekend is it only going to last a month?
ro53ben
18 Mar 17 #48
None, it's butane.
ro53ben
18 Mar 17 #49
Ignore the people claiming you can use butane on a Weber gas BBQ, they are wrong.

Some charcoal Weber grills come with a butane gas ignition, but all of the gas grills are Propane only.
frazman
18 Mar 17 #50
thanks RO53BEN ...but Please tell that's not true I've just ordered the regulater and the butane!! How would it make a difference as I'll have to try and cancel now. ..
lindus
18 Mar 17 1 #51
No will last a month a good few hrs every day
lindus
18 Mar 17 #52
I use it my portable gas in the livin room well ventelated and carbon monoxide detector there's no heat like it
ro53ben
18 Mar 17 #53
Different flow rates, different temperatures. Butane is pretty useless on a BBQ. It's cheap for a reason. It doesn't even make a good starter on my charcoal bbq as it doesn't work on colder days. Butane is only really good for indoor use.
austinc
18 Mar 17 1 #55
£23.90 delivered for 19kg propane from woldlink. no exchange required
PhoenixS
19 Mar 17 #56
No alarms and no surprises
Holte_ender
19 Mar 17 #57
Propane is only £27 for 19kg too.
Nice.
andynicol
19 Mar 17 1 #58
Yes Butane burns at a lower temperature than propane, and yes it has a higher freezing point than propane, but is perfectly fine for use with a BBQ, Weber BBQ's included.
andynicol
19 Mar 17 #59
If you want piece of mind, email Weber customer support here, and ask the question.
ro53ben
19 Mar 17 #60
Really, it's not. Weber will indeed confirm, they no longer sell adapters for butane or natural gas.
andynicol
19 Mar 17 1 #61
Swapping the other way, i.e. using propane on a BBQ which the manufacturer recommends butane 'could' cause problems due to the higher burning temperature, causing damage to the ceramic burner etc. but as butane burns at a lower temperature theres no logical reason why butane wouldn't work perfectly fine on a BBQ which came with a propane regulator, very simple task to swap the regulator, I have done exactly this, albeit not a Weber BBQ as seen here

Webers' recommandation of propane may be due to the popularity of propane over butane in the USA?
ro53ben
19 Mar 17 #62
Weber recommends propane as it works properly, I don't know how many times I need to explain this?

For a crappy gas burner, butane is OK in warm weather. For anything that deserves quality or precision outdoors, it's pretty useless.
andynicol
19 Mar 17 1 #63
I dont know how many times I need to explain, aside from the lower temperature, which most won't find as an issue, butane will work perfectly with a BBQ.

We'll agree to disagree, I'm out.
ro53ben
19 Mar 17 #64
Butane burns hotter, so to get the same temperature you need to burn less gas. So the regulator has less pressure, which isn't enough to get to the end of a high flow gas burner. It will also blow out easier in a moderate wind. The pressure will get lower as you cook, due to the bottle getting colder and the gas liquefying.

It's harder to light, harder to keep lit and won't maintain a constant temperature. Everything you don't want in a cooking device.

If you only cook in hot, dry weather you don't need a 13kg bottle anyway - you'll die before it's empty.
HerWorseHalf
20 Mar 17 #65
Many thanks for the heads up, dropped off a few old bottles today, made some cash I wasn't expecting.
Keith9534
21 Mar 17 #66
:sunglasses:
michaelfield
21 Mar 17 1 #67
Now I will intervene. In cold weather, the gas does not liquefy..the contents of the cylinder IS mainly liquid, with the space above being the room for the liquid to gas off. As it gets nearer to the point that it no longer boils off into gas, the pressure drops until, in the case of pure butane, at -1 degree it no longer boils off, so producing no gas. Butane does not freeze at this temp., it does not boil (like a kettle turning water to steam).
carson321
21 Mar 17 #68
If you are only buying one, and have no empty to return, its actually £34
ro53ben
21 Mar 17 #69
Indeed, I over simplified due to the reader failing to understand what I was trying to tell him.

However, Butane does indeed boil at -1C. Just like a cold kettle. When my butane ignition becomes useless on a cold day, I pour a jug of warm water over the bottle. You can hear it boil inside the container and, as if by magic, the gas starts coming out again. For a few minutes, until it cools down again and all the gas condenses once more and it becomes useless again. And you wish it was propane.
Holte_ender
22 Mar 17 #70
Still a fair bit cheaper than Calor.
sebastian99
23 Mar 17 1 #71
ro53ben...It's funny because I have a Weber BBQ and have been using butane for the past 13 months. In that time I cook on it 2-3 a week (on average).
So I can comprehensively say that "YES" butane does work on BBQ's...and you are correct when you say butane is useless in very cold weather.

Let's put this stupid discussion to bed.
Has anyone received their order yet?
Monkeybumcheeks
6 Apr 17 #72
I'll leave this here again......
Bossworld
6 Apr 17 #73
I've just sold an old 15kg butane bottle (weighed about 21kg) for £4.20 on eBay lol. Did loads of searches and it seemed as though you couldn't get a refund unless you had the original rental agreement.

Never mind least that explains why it was attracting bids
DillornoDill
6 Apr 17 #74
Can I use this in a wood burner?
benskia
6 Apr 17 #75
Is this stuff different to propane? Will it work in a bbq?
Monkeybumcheeks
6 Apr 17 #76
Yeah, chuck it straight in.
Istanbul_Kop
6 Apr 17 #77
https://media.giphy.com/media/PNFXpaRyw4mAg/giphy.gif
Hunkerdown
7 Apr 17 #78
I can say from experience they aren't very comfortable.
tek-monkey
7 Apr 17 #79
I use the yellow bottles on my webber bbq, are they butane?
andynicol
7 Apr 17 #80
If you work for Woldlink :smirk:, you should suggest to them that online (preferably Paypal) ordering should be at the top of there agenda, would increase there sales considerably.
andynicol
7 Apr 17 #81
Any update on this frazman?

Weber BBQ work okay with butane?
Monkeybumcheeks
7 Apr 17 #82
I don't mate, just a tight **** :smirk:
Stu.C
24 May 17 #83
The website states the following:

This statement is clearly because the included regulator only fits green patio gas bottles, which happen to contain propane. If you are taking this sentence to state that butane gas is not suitable, then you should include also propane as not being suitable in your interpretation, since it is in the same sentence!
Monkeybumcheeks
24 May 17 #84
Your sentence doesnt make much sense to me my old cocker. Cheap gas is good gas.
Stu.C
25 May 17 #85
Sorry clicked the wrong post!!! I was intending to reply to this post:


I'll edit my previous post to avoid confusion!
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