Nutritional advice has been wrong for the past 40+ years. It's no surprise to me that protein supplementation is marketed the way it is,and is in fact complete bulls**t.

https://authoritynutrition.com/6-graphs-the-war-on-fat-was-a-mistake/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2013/07/02/lowfat-milk-may-not-be-as-healthy-as-we-thought-says-harvard-expert/#7afc4b0981a0

https://examine.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-do-i-need-every-day/

I can't find any significant reason to consume more than 0.8g / lb of protein per day. For example I'm 180lbs therefore my maximum consumption of protein should be 144 grams (0.8 * 180) and lower depending on my initial body composition. Since I'm not a body builder I function fine with a lower protein intake than 144 grams, I have never needed to supplement protein even when working out at the gym which I've stopped doing. At least now we have more information available, although the NHS still give the wrong nutritional advice on fats and carbohydrates though.

The modern world is essentially screwed up, we live longer due to medical advancement but we often suffer with quite severe debilitating diseases, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, dementia and mental health problems. Our technology is invasive, we're always switched on, work invades our lives with emails after work.

I'm launching a website this year where I'll be experimenting with my microbiome and researching data on the microbiome, I've been in to computing for 30+ years but I'm sick of the invasive technology and the pace of the technology of today, so time for a change :smiley:

Beware that this isn't the same as Promax made by the same company. This is their less premium range which consists of inferior proteins, more carbs and more sugar.

I would go for the lean version which is the same price, alot less sugar and carbs

Beware that this isn't the same as Promax made by the same company. This is their less premium range which consists of inferior proteins, more carbs and more sugar.

isn't this about 40% protein, in which case £10 for milkshake with a smidge of protein is pretty poor

No its less than 12g. See below Typical serving is 25g so in one serving there will be 0.8g of sugar

Kcals per 100g: 1544kcal.
Protein per 100g: 66.6g.
Carbs per 100g: 10g.
Sugars per 100g: 3.3g.

Not even 17g of protein per serving in the 'lean' shake- very poor.

20g of protein per 50g of powder is quite low really, its not even whey protein, its just soya and powdered milk.

Be very careful twice I've had out of date protein from Argos

tripe