would be even cheaper if they didn't plaster the bloody board in disco lights and garish shrouds and decals.

Haha I think you misunderstood my comment. I was saying it's not pointless to have that amount of power. I think if the rumours are right Ryzen will be the most significant CPU launch in over a decade.

cheers fella.

it just grinds my gears how they have started adding all this tat that increases the price.
-RGB
-plastic shrouds everywhere
-reinforced RAM slots, why, how heavy is RAM, PCIE yes, RAM no.

What you call overkill others call 4k or triple screens. Buy what you want- as will everyone else.

I've been watching a few and they say today, but I agree, they'll be gone just as quick.

Just as well sticking with the Amazon one for the price, Scan now list this board for £205, really happy I snagged it for £179.

Has anyone got their Gigabyte Gaming 5 yet? I ordered on the 25th, but it didn't ship, and seems to be out of stock everywhere.

Ordered this and 1700x from AWD. Waiting to get my hands on them :smile:

8 in stock again with awd-it.co.uk for 169.

£204.95 now

The thing is, pricing is transient. What's the difference if Intel price matches them?

It's good for the consumer, but it isn't a 'best in a decade' CPU.

Also, I'd make a reasonable argument around Core 2 Duo being the one "everyone remembers". Specifically the Wolffdale model, which was 9 years ago. But that's splitting hairs.

Core 2 was released 11 years ago. And yes Sandy Bridge was good. But I mean significant in terms of what it will do to the market generally. If it really does match Intel's top chips and beat them in some scenarios at less than half the price I'd say that's more significant than the impact of Sandy Bridge plus its really increasing the number of cores and threads that people will have in their systems which could drive major innovation from developers to utilise more cores.

I mean, have we really found this level of hyperbole for a CPU that, at best, only equals what currently is out there for a lower price?

Competition is great, but let's not pretend the Ryzen chips are some amazing CPU advance.

The Core 2 was huge and the 2500k was pretty huge too.

So, I welcome the Ryzen chips, but until I see some actual incremental improvements, I'm not screaming from the rooftops.

​Why's the board for £159?

​amazon fresh? or Amazon french?

I'm thinking about selling my i7 6700k with gtx1080 and building new Ryzen system. I'm doing lot of image editing. Also playing games 4k res. still not sure if I can get decent return by selling...

SAVE20 is the Promo code, £20 off of a £60 spend for new Amazon Fresh customers.

Agree with this answer, if you do content creation - aka 3d, video, images etc, or 4k gaming then get the ryzen 7 series, otherwise wait a month or two for the ryzen 5 and 3 series .. again if its light work, it might be worth holding on to h2 and get the ryzen apus

​what is the promo?

Hi all

I have a Lynnfield i5-750 which came out about 2009 nearly 7 years ago is it work upgrading this chip over the new amd or intel chips that are out now and why ?

cheers for any help

Ye i saw those cuts but it's not really gonna be any good I mean intel know that. they're just bringing them down incrementally to find out what is the best cost to sales ratio, but those minimal savings will do very little to change anything, and depending on ryzen 5 and the pricing intel will have to drop again and again, the prices are so inflated at this point they've controlled the market with pricing, if intel had not priced so high there's no way amd would release chips at £500 but now they feel they can get away with it and we're the ones who suffer so many people are blinded and think it's ok and just go along with it, and look where we are now with cpu, gpu's and on motherboards even compared to the last gen z170?

£1000 cpu not for long with Intel knocking down prices ahead of the launch

I agree, there's nothing worse than idiots on forums telling people how they should spend their money.

funny that everyone now compares the £1000 cpu like that price was even ok to begin with, thx to intel and NVidia with there insane prices morons think it's ok when prices are a bit cheaper, the cpu Wasn't worth £1000 and anyone buying was stupid, pricing cpu's at £500 is just as stupid, but that's there plan right lets everybody think there getting a gd deal like £500 for a cpu is ok, but, but the intel was £1000.
The best chips or the best anything is the best price with perf and energy efficiency, balance not law of diminishing returns like 10% perf increase for 40% price increase, then again there's plenty of idiots that must have the new shiny thing to play with, then brag they have it compensating for something else not realising that while bragging there also showing the world how stupid and gullible they are.
And isn't it surprising just how many excuses they can come up with to condone it, even fight and argue on forums to condone there purchase, look at me thump, thump on chest, 8 core 16 thread stroke, stroke.

Anyone know the best price/spec'd motherboard that is white/black please

So far, i've found this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asrock-ab350-pro4-amd-b350-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-153-ak.html

I've ordered a set of these DIMMS for £72 using Amazon Fresh £20 off promo.

G Skill Ripjaws 4 F4-2666C15Q-16GRR 16GB Memory Module Kit with Heatspreader - Red https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N1OYJA4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_52ESybV8XZCNS

Best I could find for the money, reviews show they'll OC to 3000Mhz with a little more voltage.

Let me know if you find any better RAM (16GB 2 or 4). Heard the red heat spreaders are good for 5FPS when coupled with Ryzen...

So much for more cost effective, these are the same prices as the bloated intel z series, as are the cpu's, ye ye ok more threads bla bla but come on, not impressed so far, ok I follow the tech and ryzen looks good from that POV but not with the pricing so far.

Remember when high end boards were £99.99 now you pay just as much as you do for a cpu, as I've stated before were paying way over the odds here and I'm not buying, i'll keep what I have till it dies then buy used, these company's bring it on themselves and brexit is just another excuse to rip people off, pc component sales will continue to drop as these prices continue to rise and they state that pricing is "good and low cost", if that's your idea of low cost then the pc market is in a lot of trouble, people can't condone that kind of money, with food to buy and bills to pay, kids to look after, looking at the average wage in the u.k. at the moment and now look at costs for these items and the math doesn't add up.

Future proofing is not a thing a change from ddr3 to ddr4 put future proofing out the window, tech is changing too fast, its good we're making progress but now were at a point were we are upgrading chipsets and stupid junk like that, the z270 boards are 50% more expensive than z170 and there's not much upgrade at all, on top of which they look like s**t compared to the previous gen, now everyone want's flashing lights like children's trainers or yo-yo's with lights rotfl, what is the world coming to when were entertained, marketed and ripped off by glowing lights ooohhhh aaaahhhh.

I must have missed where I said it stopped working? I just implied mGPU support is sporadic at best.

I'm upgrading so I can shift my 4770k while it's still worth decent money to a machine that will last me another 5 years.

In terms of stepping up, it'll be the cheapest system of that sort of longevity I've ever built. Easy decision.

Good job I'm in no rush then! Thank you

I realized alot of you guys here including me are rocking the i7 4790k's, but why you thinking of upgrading when these CPU's are still kicking ass.

If you run servers and stuff I understand, but for the majority upgrading from i7's 4th and 6th gen?

what is the point of having video outputs on the boards? No iGPU on these new Ryzens is there?

Haha I think you misunderstood my comment. I was saying it's not pointless to have that amount of power. I think if the rumours are right Ryzen will be the most significant CPU launch in over a decade.

Apparently you would, buddy. There's already plenty of digital foundry benchmarks showing that an i5 7600k has a huge drop compared to an i7 7700k. Cache and clock rates being the story. If you're going to spend 330 on an i7 7700k you'd be better putting that 330 into a better cpu like the ryzen 1700. Particularly where game engines are genuinely better suited to core count, like cry engine.

The 1600x will no doubt be compelling but there is a segment where people need the 1700 or higher as it offers higher cache and clo krates, in addition to cores.

You'll need that powet at 4k to sustain well above 60 fps to lock the framerate, or triple 1440p at 165/144hz again to lock or exceed the monitor refresh. You won't find that performance with middle.of the road cpu's or gpu's.

Your time is wasted in that you speak for yourself only, and not everyone else.

How dare you! I have a A8 7600 with R7 265's in crossfire in one of mine!!! :smiley:

But nobody is gaming with SLI 1080's and an i3!
The point he is making is a high clocked i7 4 core part will give better results than a lower clocked 6 core i7 part be at 1080p or 4k.
Plus almost nobody is gaming at 4k. Look at steam for 1080 SLI users. It's almost none.

I'm sorry, did 2 gpu's in SLI or crossfire stop working?

multi-GPU statement is a null since the GPU manufacturers cannot be bothered with supporting these setups.

Oh come on if you're going to debate this properly at least try harder and lose the exaggeration. Who would use an i3 CPU for a multi GPU setup. Come on be serious here. I'm wasting my time with this conversation, but at least I'm not wasting my money :smiley:

Anyone know when ITX boards are coming?

Ordered one from AWD. Out of stock now :wink:

Higher end GPU's and or multi GPU's doing triple screens or 4k require higher end cpu's to feed them. Hence you don't SLI with an Intel i3.

Keep your anecdotes to yourself!

You're free to give your opinion as well as I am and my opinion is you don't need this amount of CPU power for gaming and it's a waste of money. The analogy of 4K gaming doesn't hold as you need GPU power for that and that's achievable, throwing CPU power at something that doesn't need that amount of CPU power is a waste of money.

People are free to do what they like with their own money, this is just an opinion and obviously not enforceable :smiley: Some people just want the best they can get for their money, it's the reason people often buy things they don't need.

@fishmaster the arguement of "i only need x amount of cores/thread" is one that doesn't truly hold water. Game engines are moving to fully multithread platforms, so the days are numbered for high clocks for higher ipc.

People keep on saying oh games use x amount of cores, well what about the os, or if you are streaming your game, etc etc.. the list is endless..

And good micro atx boards, preferably with Bluetooth and WiFi?

Okay so this test was an 1800X and only gives a 6 frame improvement over the 6900K but it's not a useless amount in gaming: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-i7-6900k-gaming-performance/

What you call overkill others call 4k or triple screens. Buy what you want- as will everyone else.

I'm waiting for the cheaper Ryzen CPUs as I will only game or browse the Internet, I would be totally wasting my money on 1700X and so is everyone who is just gaming with these CPUs.

If you're only gaming then you're wasting your money, your CPU is good enough already. The three initial Ryzen CPUs are pointless for gaming, massive overkill currently. If you're doing semi pro / pro work then the multitasking is fantastic for the money and must force Intel to lower their prices.

AWD are fine.

Ordered one from AWD, tempted to change my 1700x order for a 1700 now and see how far I can click given the better VRM than the B350 I was going to order.

Reading yesterday they said a standard 1700 will OC to 4.0GHZ (faster than a stock 1800X) with proper cooling though 3.8/3.9 more likely.

What is everyone else ordering?

Retailers will have stock but cannot release it until the street date is met.

The domain has been registered by them since 2006, and their site has an SSL. Use a credit card to stay safe as you always should.

I purchased one also!

£10 cheaper here

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/gigabyte-ax370-gaming-5-amd-ryzen-atx-gaming-motherboard-socket-am4.html

good find op, heat added

Thanks OP was just looking for that board or the slightly better one to pair with my 1700X as that's what i had my heart set on and the cheapest Place is CCL at £202.99 so you've saved me a minimum of £23.

Long list: Entire Range of AMD Ryzen AM4 Motherboards Pictured in Full Detail – X370, B350, A320 Products Featuring ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI & ASRock

The £75 Asrock B350 board I linked above doesn't have the video ports.

Not when I needed more cores :wink:
Sold my expensive Asus Z97 board and bought the cheap MSI board, pocketed >£100 difference.

Oh it does :wink: My 4790K runs @4.8 24/7 on a SOC force board.

I'm gonna pair the R7 1700X with the best B350 board I can find under £100 since I don't need the extra graphics slots plus all the other extra features.

Currently running a i-74790K on a cheap MSI ECO H97M board (£35 amazon deal no kidding), yes it (H97M) doesn't allow overclocking, an extra 400MHz~ doesn't add much to the performance of a chip already running at 4.2GHz with all 4 cores active.

The X370 boards overkill for the vast majority, for enthusiasts, power users.

Unless you really need the extra features found on the X370, buy the cheaper B350 boards.

cheers fella.

it just grinds my gears how they have started adding all this tat that increases the price.
-RGB
-plastic shrouds everywhere
-reinforced RAM slots, why, how heavy is RAM, PCIE yes, RAM no.

ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS AMD DDR4 S-ATA 600 ATX £99.99

ASRock AMD AM4 Ryzen AB350M Micro ATX £74.48

would be even cheaper if they didn't plaster the bloody board in disco lights and garish shrouds and decals.