Probably get shot down but this seems like an incredible deal for a top of the range model with a list price of £32205. Sat Nav included - add adaptive damping (suspension) for £510).
1) Wrong. It will be a factory order unless they have the vehicle matching your spec in stock - which even then still wont be a pre-reg
2) Wrong. It is the price they will have negotiated with a dealer or dealers before putting it on the website. Dealers will be prepared to make a loss to keep the sales up.
I have bought my last 3 cars through brokers (drivethedeal twice and carfile.net just last year) and on each purchase the dealer showed me the 'trade' invoice proving they have made between a £100-300 loss on each vehicle. They have to sell a certain amount to keep the franchise so will sell some at a loss to keep the business. And for every 1 broker sale there will be 3 morons paying list so the books more than balance. They also hope you go back for servicing and repairs.
Zuulan
21 Feb 174#33
Some more DTD deals:
zzak
22 Feb 174#52
You are an idiot
Latest comments (107)
zhangqixu
27 Feb 17#100
How much is the delivery charge?
lbrown to zhangqixu
18 Apr 17#107
That has £1500 deposit plus 47 x £300 and guaranteed value of £12,690 so = £28,190?
So higher?
lbrown
18 Apr 17#106
That has £1500 deposit plus 47 x £300 and guaranteed value of £12,690 so = £28,190?
So higher?
Anonknowmouse
8 Mar 17#105
It's a sad fact that many people do not realize how short sighted most new BMW and Audi drivers are. This terrible affliction means many drive a foot off your back bumper and can't see traffic ahead. If you pull over, they blindly carry on. Sad fact is they aren't posers, but need bigger wheels and tyres to help avoid accidents created by their condition. I find they like white cars, the traditional colour of superiority.
I've owned an old BMW (please don't be jealous) so I'm allowed to joke like this, possibly.
renegade_si
4 Mar 17#104
check out
Coast2CoastCars.co.uk. for the 5 door (~£500) and with adaptive suspension (£515) then we have £26,200 delivered on the road with the new £800 rate rate for manual (from £350)
dont.mack.me.off
1 Mar 171#103
Most of the deals on DTD are based on getting finance via the manufacturer. There is normally an increase if you finance yourself or pay cash (which is what i want to do). You will see this is the case for most makes if you price up a new car through them. Special offers (cars available quickly) may differ but i doubt it. As regards the PA miles I don't know.
Bikerdanny
28 Feb 17#102
Oldschoolfish or anyone who knows of that matter - can this price be had though BMW finance or would i have to get car finance elsewhere and pay the dealer the whole £24,909 ? if I can use BMW finance what is the min deposit and monthly price and for how many miles PA ? don't want to give away my personal details to numberous dealers without knowing this basic info. Thanks very much !
jrw
27 Feb 17#101
Delivery is included
cheeky_chops
25 Feb 17#99
anyone had a response from DTD?
Jimmyboy
24 Feb 171#98
Thanks for the info
FocusST
24 Feb 17#97
They do have that, but it's not as daft as it sounds. There is a sound file in the car for the actual engine which is then piped through the audio system when you switch into Sport mode but it's not audible in the same way music is, it just amplifies the engine note a bit and give a deeper note.
It's good in that you get to hear the lovely engine whilst keeping your neighbours happy as from the outside it just sounds normal (normal for a 6 pot 3l turbo anyway, still plenty of pops/bangs/exhaust!!). Mine failed the other day for whatever reason and when I put my foot down it sounded like the engine had been swapped for a 218I engine, there was no noise at all!! :smile:
And if you don't like it you can just code out the volume easily enough (you can increase it as well!).
I have a 430 diesel which is a 10th of a second quicker to 0-60 than the petrol. The auto box is excellent and in sport mode changes gear in a blink. I really miss the noise of a petrol though so switching to an M4 next year I think (possibly M3 as could do with the rear doors).
Not sure if the this is the same with the M1 on this deal but the M4 has simulated engine noise piped through the speakers. It almost put me off when I found that out.
That's because everyone thinks they can drift these cars round like Chris Harris etc, the reality is quite different.
ac12
23 Feb 17#92
Awesome idea but BMW don't seem as keen wanted the M4 but only got a couple of grands knocked down despite being a "loyal" customer!! Might have to try Mercedes with the C63s
FocusST to ac12
23 Feb 17#93
M4 are lovely, if you have £80k to spend on buying one and meeting the running costs!! :smile:
I actually wanted an M2 but the waiting list was 12-18 months and I couldn't face waiting that long.
TheBiker
23 Feb 17#91
M4 sounds better to me.
aarontp
22 Feb 17#90
Let us know how you get on as some BMW dealers are super tight!
aarontp
22 Feb 17#89
0% on a Focus ST-3. Not bad for a hot hatch like that. But the BMW is a better car for the little bit extra. Would love to see a Merc A45 on here with 23% off, what snap that one up.
Good find. heat.
dont.mack.me.off
22 Feb 17#88
Yes based on list price with options, but as Daveclarke says a 140 should be below that as there aren't that many options to choose in any case.
cheeky_chops
22 Feb 171#87
went into my local BWM dealer and he went on about 5% discount! £4500 deposit and £287 per month. He said he could match the deal so going back in to look at figures and a test drive Saturday
Jimmyboy
22 Feb 17#86
I'm pretty sure the £40k issue is based on the list price so doesn't matter what deal you manage to get they will be assessing the car based on the MRSP not what you actually pay when you buy.
daveclarke
22 Feb 172#85
On the front page, scroll down to sponsors.
Then look for trl berry heathrow.
Looked at that forum but it's not obvious where I'm meant to go. Can you help?
FAB87
22 Feb 171#82
I drive an M235i and echo what's been said by others above - fantastic car and value for money is spot on. I am averaging 29.5mpg which includes about 50% motorway and 50% country / A roads. Forget DTD though and head to the babybmw forum as someone else mentioned - there is a sponsor dealer on there who beats these deals and is extremely transparent.
Did I mention it sounds incredible and is sh*t your pants fast as well?
MrSweeney
22 Feb 17#81
Great price for a bloody quick germanmobile. The deal on the 440i m sport Zuulan listed is brilliant too.
seabs
22 Feb 17#80
I had no idea it was possible to get a performance hatch for that kind of money.
Only an extra £3pm for 5 doors to make it practical.
So tempting.
daveclarke
22 Feb 17#79
The New Base Price deal from TRL is M140i 3 Door Manual, in AW, no options. deposit £1000 then 47 x £299 plus GFV £12,906. Based on 8K miles PA.
£27,059 that's including the new tax and interest
cigbunt
22 Feb 17#78
total price being????
cigbunt
22 Feb 17#77
autostep is the one to get to be honest...
Whyte901
22 Feb 17#76
Awesome engine :smiley:
FocusST
22 Feb 17#75
I'm guessing that's an age thing though, you must be in your 20's/30's maybe? I actually tried out the Civic Type R and felt like such a knobhead in it with all the wings and spoilers that I would have hated the attention. It was also a lot lower quality inside and out. Also tried the Focus RS but then realised it was £36k for a Ford!!
All subjective in the end, I prefer the subtle looks and the performance/RWD aspect and would not go any other way. I've also had BMW's for 10 plus years and have enjoyed the whole ownership aspects from running costs to dealer service levels to reliability (I have a 3 series as well as this).
Price wasn't really an issue so I wouldn't have considered anything else.
As for trackdays and ragging it, I'm quite happy to do both with mine. It gets a nice workout whenever possible and I live near some great roads. :smiley:
jazzuk777
22 Feb 17#74
Can you get a discount for the version specced without working indicators that most BMW drivers seem to have? :smirk:
MaxSherbz
22 Feb 17#73
These cars are absolute weapons, but yeah you shouldn't even be considering getting one if mpg is a concern of yours. Insurance on the other hand isnt too bad £700 a year for 2 years no claims.
25k for this car is cheap AF, i work for bmw and couldnt get it that cheap new.
daveclarke
22 Feb 17#72
You can actually do better than that price, have a look at the sponsor section of babybmw.net
For a basic spec 3dr manual, you can pcp for £1000 dep and £299 a month (x47)
That's otr based on the car coming in April, the dtd price is based on the car coming in march, so assuming it's under £40k, you'd have to add £455 for a manual.
Even with most options, it's easy to stay below the £40k price for tax reasons.
As for the modifying side of things, an intercooler wont be an issue on these, people are adding a tuning box, and then a decay/sports cat and seeing well over 400bhp
Silverbullet767
22 Feb 17#71
Notice why they never say what kind of exotica they drive??
darkstryder360
22 Feb 17#70
Thats cool and all, but the same could be said for cars 1/4 the price, even less, that are also better looking and more fun, because lets face it, how many people will risk taking their brand new £30,000 bimmer to a track day, let alone chuck it into a corner without fear of giving the poor thing a scratch.
If this car had any styling cues to its BTCC equivalent I would give it some slack.
g33m4n
22 Feb 17#69
Great car, sublime engine & gearbox. I have the 340i Touring which has a real dual personality - ideal family car & complete hooligan. Expect 30+mpg with mixed driving. There are some incredible discounts to be had on these top petrol models but they're timing is seemingly random. Just test drive one of them, it won't disappoint.
cigbunt
22 Feb 17#68
Can you get xdrive on this yet??
cigbunt
22 Feb 17#67
Wow that's cheap
FocusST
22 Feb 17#66
I don't wear any designer clothes, cheap jeans and Tesco t-shirts all the way for me!! :smile:
You are probably missing the point, I've bought mine purely for RWD high power fun in a coupe body with 4 seats so I can fit the kids in, the fact it looks no different to any other 2 series coupe is very attractive to me, I don't get any attention at all unlike when I had my ST and other quick machines in the past. Granted the 240i is better looking than the 140i in it's coupe form, but I think the 140 still looks great, especially in 3dr guise.
As for depreciation, all new cars depreciate so you can't control that.
But then I am quite old and don't want to stand out, purely bought for the driving pleasure and the fact it has hints of being a modern day E46.
And that engine is just unreal.
philcronorniron
22 Feb 17#65
Heat this car is a monster. My friend had the 135i and now another friend for the 140i a few months ago, incredible machine
ifa
22 Feb 17#64
25k cash would also buy you a lot of "hoes" (for gardening of course)
FocusST
22 Feb 171#63
I drive an M240i so can vouch for how good these are. The engine is just ballistically fast, and most of the BMW forum lads are getting 350-370bhp stock on the dynos. Real double character car, easy to drive normally in comfort mode and will easily achieve 30-35mpg when doing so (40+ on the motorway), but if you want to give it some flick over into Sport and it comes alive. Best car I've ever owned by far.
BMW are still doing good discounts on them, I got £8500 off mine, should have been £44k as I specced pretty much all the options bar sunroof.
Need to be aware of VED changes if buying new though rather than leasing.
Burr_ger
22 Feb 171#62
Get it before they make the 1 series front wheel drive next year!
Jimmyboy
22 Feb 17#61
Thanks.
jrw
22 Feb 17#60
Sold privately. I look after my cars.....My last car - Octavia VRS, 5 years old with 60k on the clock sold within 6 hours of me advertising it and for the asking price.
You can usually trade in though with the supplying dealer. Every one has asked if i wanted to trade a car in. Carfile.net also has a contact which will buy second hand cars at a better rate of the likes of WBAC.
darkstryder360
22 Feb 171#59
This car gets me so triggered.
Boring plain looking car for a lot of money, that will depreciate like a motherfluffer. Why anyone one would ever consider this is incredible.
I assume its the same people that pay £100+ for a Versace polo shirt.
keejoonc
22 Feb 17#58
there must be a lot of really bad drivers lol
I had the m135i and it was fast but never scary apart from when I was driving in the snowy, frosty conditions.
keejoonc
22 Feb 17#57
good car not much of a looker. for the price, i guess you cant go wrong.
Jimmyboy
22 Feb 17#56
Out of interest what did you do with the old cars each time, trade in or sell privately?
sonicdeathmonkey
22 Feb 17#55
For a long time i was planning on getting this (M135i at the time) or the A45 AMG. In the end went for the A45
Used drive the deal to get a local Mercedes dealer to price match an A45 amg. List price was £45k with all the options i had on it, by then end i had got them down to £34k. Over £11k saving :confused:
I think this is a stonking deal for remarkably capable car. The thing i find hilarious though is the amount of CAT D M135i models listed on auto trader. Essentially what this means is, if you are a pillock in this car it can and will take you into a ditch......
vtec
22 Feb 17#54
not true. the 5 series is a looker. and the new m3 and m4 are stunning. but they are being left behind by audi and merc in design.
stevennoad
22 Feb 17#53
It's only a car boring boring boring.
zzak
22 Feb 174#52
You are an idiot
muckspreader1
22 Feb 17#51
One of the most ugliest cars on the road by far.And how do they have the cheek to put an my on it looks. No doubt all the crazy new build house fans will have one of these cheap and nasty looking cars on the drive so they can look like everyone on on the lego estate.Poor build quilts and poor reliability.
Northerndave
22 Feb 17#50
Does it come with indicators and incorrect lane detection? Most BMW's don't seem to !
pearcec01
21 Feb 17#49
Great deal that but not my taste, just bought 2 for ebay though. :wink:
vulcanproject
21 Feb 17#48
Modified car insurance. Find a specialist. For whatever reason an intercooler is the trigger for most average insurers to refuse and they jack it up on just a map anyway. But many specialists come out surprisingly low, especially if you have a popular model and club discounts. Adrian Flux have been useful over the years, Greenlight etc. I have read out lists to both of them many times before and sometimes even had agreed values :stuck_out_tongue: they don't blink an eye.
Anonknowmouse
21 Feb 17#47
Exactly.
stave84
21 Feb 17#46
Yeah 20-25% sounds about right. Its a fair whack. Mine has engine, fuel system, exhaust mods and remap so most just say no. The end result is less choice = more expensive.
With hindsight, Stage 1 remap only def would have been a better idea!
Type_R
21 Feb 171#45
Bought our last two cars using DTD. Excellent service, brand new cars and uk dealers. Third car was price matched by our local dealership to DTD price.
I'm pretty sure our next car will come through DTD too! Heat added.
vulcanproject
21 Feb 17#44
I think that for a rapid BMW hatchback it's pretty good. You might be able to find a new Golf R for similar if you really shop around and hold out but I haven't looked recently. Otherwise you won't get another new hot hatch of this performance for much less than £30k.
Anonknowmouse
21 Feb 17#43
I agree this is a great deal for the performance. It doesn't make much financial sense compared to buying something more economical and cheaper, but as a treat it's worth the cash.
vulcanproject
21 Feb 17#42
It's not that bad. With just a remap most insurers will accommodate you, If you change an intercooler you usually need modified car insurance. But it's easy when there are so many specialist insurers you should go with anyway and club discounts for many models. The premiums don't go up that much in my experience, even when I had my most heavily modified car and a great long list of modifications legally insured I ended up with a ~20 percent increase over a standard machine. Not outrageous I thought, and this isn't that.
Also if you are that bothered about selling on then most of these BMWs are box tuned anyway meaning you easily take a map off the car later and return it to standard.
ezzer72
21 Feb 17#41
Wrong.
The invoice only shows the standard margin that the dealer has, registration bonuses and consumer offers/deals are claimed separately.
Don't get me wrong, you probably got half decent deals if you paid £300 less than invoice, but the dealer didn't actually lose £300, trust me - they still made a profit.
vulcanproject
21 Feb 17#36
Delicious little hatchback, it's an absolute rocket. You trade off some practicality but the performance is scorching. It's a fairly new model but some tuning packages are starting to become available where a map and intercooler takes you to 400bhp and 400lb/ft torque.
That would be hilarious. It wasn't so long ago you only got that kind of output from proper exotica like a 911 turbo or F360, the power war advances so quickly.
stave84 to vulcanproject
21 Feb 17#40
See it SOUNDS like a good idea, then the insurance is a biatch and you can't PartEx and have all the hassle of selling privately instead. DOI - 350bhp/400ftlb Audi TTS. Also fuel becomes rather expensive. Suddenly you realise 280bhp really was enough!
singhisking68
21 Feb 17#27
wtf 25k just for car ?? :confused:
Houstieboy to singhisking68
21 Feb 1721#35
We don't all drive Datsuns
rodman to singhisking68
21 Feb 172#39
It will get you pussy!
uggers2k
21 Feb 17#38
Super price for a super car. Have some heat
margamboy
21 Feb 171#37
Ok maybe wrongly worded but you get my drift,
margamboy
21 Feb 171#7
Its not that hard to get 20% off these, it would be a starting point on any negotiations for me
smk77 to margamboy
21 Feb 174#34
If it's not hard to get 20% off then why would you make that a starting point in a negotiation? Surely start with more discount?
Zuulan
21 Feb 174#33
Some more DTD deals:
groenleader
21 Feb 17#32
I posted some deals on a Fiesta in to a thread a month or back. Carwow tends to only have cars cheap that are on offer, other wise they are the best offers dealers are willing to sell cars for.
Ultimately, like insurance sites, such as "go compare" they eventually suffocate themselves and the deals are no longer great as people default to them and all the dealers know they can sell for a similar price, see your above post and you will pick one if you want to buy the car!
MonkeyG0D
21 Feb 172#31
I used drive the deal for my last new car, it's the cheapest way I could find to get a new car. not prereg and you can spec the car how you want. you deal with the dealer direct
chamment
21 Feb 17#12
There are some good deals to be had on cars at the moment. There is another website called carwow that has also recently started doing BMW.
Zuulan to chamment
21 Feb 17#30
Has anyone had any luck with Carwow? I've had a few quotes via their site and all have been rubbish.
Cameron92
21 Feb 171#29
Does it come with working indicators or are these an optional extra?
robm612
21 Feb 171#28
Cracking deal for a cracking car. Just a shame BMW haven't made a stylish car since the e46 m3.
jbmnic
21 Feb 17#26
Cracking deal I'm my eyes. Heat
chrisbenwalker
21 Feb 17#25
24 posts so far and no comments about indicators don't work on these, or all BMW drivers drive like k##bs. Gotta be a record :smirk:
jrw
21 Feb 17#24
Yeah got 2 service pack with no issues. Dad has his done yesterday as a matter of fact.
Be careful as the list price includes options. List on mine was £42k when I got mine but I did get quite a few options! Only leather, panoramic roof and lane assist missing. Also I got oryx white which is a horrendous price!
dont.mack.me.off
21 Feb 17#23
Does seem mad. Talk about hurting the economy. Good to know as that is what i am contemplating. Did you go for a servicing pack at all? Did you have any issues? I am thinking of going golf R also which thankfully will be below the new 40k threshold.
jrw
21 Feb 171#22
That's why the discount is so heavy. The tax rule change is ludicrous and will hit most heavily the cars with a list price of £40k plus due to a levy on these for the first 4 years. It's ridiculous.
jrw
21 Feb 17#21
I got my golf R last year and got 2 grand extra off for taking out pcp which I promptly paid off a week later incurring no charges as it was in the two week cooling off period. My dad also did the same for his gti as well as another 1250 off for already owning a vw.
cecilmcroberts
21 Feb 17#20
Wonder with that last part are they including reg fees. New tax laws come into affect for cars on or after 1st April. This car for example sits in the 171-190CO2 band which attract an £800 first year VED from then. Know that is what prompted myself to change a few months early as the car I was buying (woooahh its due build date is this week) falls into same bracket.
Great deal OP voted hot.
Edit:Just seen in post#14 they are declaring tax at March 17 rates only.
dont.mack.me.off
21 Feb 171#19
From what i have seen the DTD specials tend to work out the same as their normal price. Suspect they are just available quicker. You do need to be aware that their prices often include a significant discount based on purchase using PCP finance although there may be ways round that as i understand it.
jrw
21 Feb 17#18
Been DSG since 2010, would definitely get the step auto. My work car is manual though....done 3000 miles this month so far too :disappointed:
jrw
21 Feb 17#17
That's leases.
Never known that with Drive the Deal. Know many people that have gone through brokers without issue. Leasing on the other hand....
Scorpion
21 Feb 171#11
Cracking price for a cracking car. Personally I think the auto box in these is the way to go, it's so smooth when you want it to be and changes gear hellish fast when you've got your foot planted.
oldskoolflash to Scorpion
21 Feb 173#16
I can't comment on the BMW box but I had a Golf GTI with DSG and it was so good I've never had a manual car since.
groenleader
21 Feb 171#1
It is a good deal, but I bet:
1) Its only one that never sold, cancelled order etc. its been registered and the plates change soon!
2) It did not ever exist, which being Drive the Deal would be standard practise! You get put through the dealer who cant match that offer b/c X Y Z but can offer you this price....
I did quick run with this and could not get it at that price, can you post a screen shot with date and time out of interest?
MyBoozyHell to groenleader
21 Feb 171#6
Info from clicking through on the link suggests these are brand new, not pre-reg:
NOTE: ALL BMW MODELS ORDERED VIA US WILL BE SUPPLIED BRAND NEW. YOU WILL BE THE FIRST AND ONLY REGISTERED KEEPER. SOME BROKERS ARE OFFERING PRE-REGISTERED CARS OR CARS REGISTERED TO YOU “CARE OF” AN UNRELATED COMPANY. KEEPING A VEHICLE REGISTERED IN THIS WAY IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE. A CAR REGISTERED TO YOUR NAME “CARE OF” ANOTHER COMPANY IS ACTUALLY REGISTERED TO THAT COMPANY NOT TO YOU . WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT BUY ONE FOR THE REASONS SET OUT ON OUR PRE-REGISTERED CARS PAGE IN PART (ii). IF ANOTHER BROKER CANNOT OFFER YOU THE MANUFACTURER’S FINANCE PACKAGES THEN THIS WILL BE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REGISTERING THE CAR TO YOU. ALSO, WE RECOMMEND YOU NEVER PAY THE BROKER FOR THE CAR, INSIST ON PAYING THE MAIN DEALER DIRECT IN CASE THE BROKER FAILS TO PAY THE DEALER AND THE DEALER CLAIMS THE CAR BACK. BROKERS ONLY EVER ASK YOU TO PAY THEM IF THEY ARE NOT REGISTERING THE CAR TO YOU AT THE OUTSET.
Please note that the BMW dealer will require a minimum deposit of £1,000 (Subject to factory options).
Quotes and offers are for cars ordered between 1 January - 31 March and delivered by 30 June 2017.
jrw to groenleader
21 Feb 175#8
1) Wrong. It will be a factory order unless they have the vehicle matching your spec in stock - which even then still wont be a pre-reg
2) Wrong. It is the price they will have negotiated with a dealer or dealers before putting it on the website. Dealers will be prepared to make a loss to keep the sales up.
I have bought my last 3 cars through brokers (drivethedeal twice and carfile.net just last year) and on each purchase the dealer showed me the 'trade' invoice proving they have made between a £100-300 loss on each vehicle. They have to sell a certain amount to keep the franchise so will sell some at a loss to keep the business. And for every 1 broker sale there will be 3 morons paying list so the books more than balance. They also hope you go back for servicing and repairs.
oldskoolflash to groenleader
21 Feb 174#15
BOOM! Congratulations on being the first to shoot down!
BTW you are wrong on all your points, and see screenshot of the deal below (thank you
jrw).
Thanks for your contribution....
groenleader
21 Feb 17#14
I did this in white and it did not come up with this price. Good price for a retail!
groenleader
21 Feb 17#13
I understand that, I run a big fleet. What I am saying is that you do not know how much of that is actual truth. You may have seen how many times cars are listed on here and then someone phones up and the deal is "gone".
Saying its a factory order, but the only ones for the quote a person gets turn out to be limited to the stock or on the boat already.
Either way if you buy the car and you get the price you want, be happy!
twinkle
21 Feb 173#4
I've use drive the deal before and they delivered what they said...they just put you in touch with the dealer...or hunt around and you can get the deal yourself if you want to put the work in contacting dealers. In fact I actually got a newer model as dealer wanted a sale and was happy deal.
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2) Wrong. It is the price they will have negotiated with a dealer or dealers before putting it on the website. Dealers will be prepared to make a loss to keep the sales up.
I have bought my last 3 cars through brokers (drivethedeal twice and carfile.net just last year) and on each purchase the dealer showed me the 'trade' invoice proving they have made between a £100-300 loss on each vehicle. They have to sell a certain amount to keep the franchise so will sell some at a loss to keep the business. And for every 1 broker sale there will be 3 morons paying list so the books more than balance. They also hope you go back for servicing and repairs.
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So higher?
So higher?
I've owned an old BMW (please don't be jealous) so I'm allowed to joke like this, possibly.
Coast2CoastCars.co.uk. for the 5 door (~£500) and with adaptive suspension (£515) then we have £26,200 delivered on the road with the new £800 rate rate for manual (from £350)
It's good in that you get to hear the lovely engine whilst keeping your neighbours happy as from the outside it just sounds normal (normal for a 6 pot 3l turbo anyway, still plenty of pops/bangs/exhaust!!). Mine failed the other day for whatever reason and when I put my foot down it sounded like the engine had been swapped for a 218I engine, there was no noise at all!! :smile:
And if you don't like it you can just code out the volume easily enough (you can increase it as well!).
Videos here give you an idea - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=m2+asd
Not sure if the this is the same with the M1 on this deal but the M4 has simulated engine noise piped through the speakers. It almost put me off when I found that out.
Deal here for a M Sport touring at less than £27k http://www.broker4cars.co.uk/Buy/New_Car.jsp?capID=70311&dt=BMW+3+SERIES+TOURING+330i+M+Sport+5dr+Step+Auto
252 brake is enough is for :stuck_out_tongue:
I actually wanted an M2 but the waiting list was 12-18 months and I couldn't face waiting that long.
Good find. heat.
Then look for trl berry heathrow.
http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=72965
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C789949
Did I mention it sounds incredible and is sh*t your pants fast as well?
Only an extra £3pm for 5 doors to make it practical.
So tempting.
£27,059 that's including the new tax and interest
All subjective in the end, I prefer the subtle looks and the performance/RWD aspect and would not go any other way. I've also had BMW's for 10 plus years and have enjoyed the whole ownership aspects from running costs to dealer service levels to reliability (I have a 3 series as well as this).
Price wasn't really an issue so I wouldn't have considered anything else.
As for trackdays and ragging it, I'm quite happy to do both with mine. It gets a nice workout whenever possible and I live near some great roads. :smiley:
25k for this car is cheap AF, i work for bmw and couldnt get it that cheap new.
For a basic spec 3dr manual, you can pcp for £1000 dep and £299 a month (x47)
That's otr based on the car coming in April, the dtd price is based on the car coming in march, so assuming it's under £40k, you'd have to add £455 for a manual.
Even with most options, it's easy to stay below the £40k price for tax reasons.
As for the modifying side of things, an intercooler wont be an issue on these, people are adding a tuning box, and then a decay/sports cat and seeing well over 400bhp
If this car had any styling cues to its BTCC equivalent I would give it some slack.
You are probably missing the point, I've bought mine purely for RWD high power fun in a coupe body with 4 seats so I can fit the kids in, the fact it looks no different to any other 2 series coupe is very attractive to me, I don't get any attention at all unlike when I had my ST and other quick machines in the past. Granted the 240i is better looking than the 140i in it's coupe form, but I think the 140 still looks great, especially in 3dr guise.
As for depreciation, all new cars depreciate so you can't control that.
But then I am quite old and don't want to stand out, purely bought for the driving pleasure and the fact it has hints of being a modern day E46.
And that engine is just unreal.
BMW are still doing good discounts on them, I got £8500 off mine, should have been £44k as I specced pretty much all the options bar sunroof.
Need to be aware of VED changes if buying new though rather than leasing.
You can usually trade in though with the supplying dealer. Every one has asked if i wanted to trade a car in. Carfile.net also has a contact which will buy second hand cars at a better rate of the likes of WBAC.
Boring plain looking car for a lot of money, that will depreciate like a motherfluffer. Why anyone one would ever consider this is incredible.
I assume its the same people that pay £100+ for a Versace polo shirt.
I had the m135i and it was fast but never scary apart from when I was driving in the snowy, frosty conditions.
Used drive the deal to get a local Mercedes dealer to price match an A45 amg. List price was £45k with all the options i had on it, by then end i had got them down to £34k. Over £11k saving :confused:
I think this is a stonking deal for remarkably capable car. The thing i find hilarious though is the amount of CAT D M135i models listed on auto trader. Essentially what this means is, if you are a pillock in this car it can and will take you into a ditch......
With hindsight, Stage 1 remap only def would have been a better idea!
I'm pretty sure our next car will come through DTD too! Heat added.
Also if you are that bothered about selling on then most of these BMWs are box tuned anyway meaning you easily take a map off the car later and return it to standard.
The invoice only shows the standard margin that the dealer has, registration bonuses and consumer offers/deals are claimed separately.
Don't get me wrong, you probably got half decent deals if you paid £300 less than invoice, but the dealer didn't actually lose £300, trust me - they still made a profit.
That would be hilarious. It wasn't so long ago you only got that kind of output from proper exotica like a 911 turbo or F360, the power war advances so quickly.
Ultimately, like insurance sites, such as "go compare" they eventually suffocate themselves and the deals are no longer great as people default to them and all the dealers know they can sell for a similar price, see your above post and you will pick one if you want to buy the car!
Be careful as the list price includes options. List on mine was £42k when I got mine but I did get quite a few options! Only leather, panoramic roof and lane assist missing. Also I got oryx white which is a horrendous price!
Good to know as that is what i am contemplating. Did you go for a servicing pack at all? Did you have any issues? I am thinking of going golf R also which thankfully will be below the new 40k threshold.
Great deal OP voted hot.
Edit:Just seen in post#14 they are declaring tax at March 17 rates only.
Never known that with Drive the Deal. Know many people that have gone through brokers without issue. Leasing on the other hand....
1) Its only one that never sold, cancelled order etc. its been registered and the plates change soon!
2) It did not ever exist, which being Drive the Deal would be standard practise! You get put through the dealer who cant match that offer b/c X Y Z but can offer you this price....
I did quick run with this and could not get it at that price, can you post a screen shot with date and time out of interest?
NOTE: ALL BMW MODELS ORDERED VIA US WILL BE SUPPLIED BRAND NEW. YOU WILL BE THE FIRST AND ONLY REGISTERED KEEPER. SOME BROKERS ARE OFFERING PRE-REGISTERED CARS OR CARS REGISTERED TO YOU “CARE OF” AN UNRELATED COMPANY. KEEPING A VEHICLE REGISTERED IN THIS WAY IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE. A CAR REGISTERED TO YOUR NAME “CARE OF” ANOTHER COMPANY IS ACTUALLY REGISTERED TO THAT COMPANY NOT TO YOU . WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT BUY ONE FOR THE REASONS SET OUT ON OUR PRE-REGISTERED CARS PAGE IN PART (ii). IF ANOTHER BROKER CANNOT OFFER YOU THE MANUFACTURER’S FINANCE PACKAGES THEN THIS WILL BE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REGISTERING THE CAR TO YOU. ALSO, WE RECOMMEND YOU NEVER PAY THE BROKER FOR THE CAR, INSIST ON PAYING THE MAIN DEALER DIRECT IN CASE THE BROKER FAILS TO PAY THE DEALER AND THE DEALER CLAIMS THE CAR BACK. BROKERS ONLY EVER ASK YOU TO PAY THEM IF THEY ARE NOT REGISTERING THE CAR TO YOU AT THE OUTSET.
Please note that the BMW dealer will require a minimum deposit of £1,000 (Subject to factory options).
Quotes and offers are for cars ordered between 1 January - 31 March and delivered by 30 June 2017.
2) Wrong. It is the price they will have negotiated with a dealer or dealers before putting it on the website. Dealers will be prepared to make a loss to keep the sales up.
I have bought my last 3 cars through brokers (drivethedeal twice and carfile.net just last year) and on each purchase the dealer showed me the 'trade' invoice proving they have made between a £100-300 loss on each vehicle. They have to sell a certain amount to keep the franchise so will sell some at a loss to keep the business. And for every 1 broker sale there will be 3 morons paying list so the books more than balance. They also hope you go back for servicing and repairs.
BTW you are wrong on all your points, and see screenshot of the deal below (thank you
jrw).
Thanks for your contribution....
Saying its a factory order, but the only ones for the quote a person gets turn out to be limited to the stock or on the boat already.
Either way if you buy the car and you get the price you want, be happy!