Nice little box for the price, OS not included so put Linux or a cheap Windows licence on it. Far more capable than a Pi for not a lot more money once you get all the bits.
RAM upgradable, disk not, but can take SD cards.
HDMI and Displayport, 3 USB 3.0 ports, Ethernet and wireless on board.
Added bonus, (wired) keyboard and mouse included!
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philphil61
17 Feb 1710#5
I got one of these when they where £59.99 from Ebuyer around May 2016
I upgraded RAM to 8Gb and thought that'd do me
Even just opening a few browser pages then say Kodi then attempt some other program and it'll struggle
@ £60 it was a bargain and I'm OKish about everything
@ £100 it's a no from me and I would of returned it if I had purchased at that price
ShroomHeadToad to OpineDevine
17 Feb 176#8
Yes, since a 2009~ kernel update, the first OS to support USB3.
mikedigitales
17 Feb 174#2
I tried one of these, they're ok, but not silent for anyone thinking down that route.
thekanester
17 Feb 174#4
Voted hot, but note that Amazon is selling the Gigabyte Brix BXBT-1900 (with J1900 CPU - about 2x performance of this). Albeit without RAM & SSD for the same price.
That might be more useful for those that require better performance and SATA storage.
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supermann
19 Feb 17#21
Sorry but cold. I may not have a time machine but this thing was being cleared at £60 a year or so ago for good reason.
To be honest I'm surprised it's still being sold.
I'm sure there's better offers out there for around the same price, back then there were a few from China that were better specced but not established enough. I'm curious to know what there is now, especially for £100. Quick search and found this Beelink device for a bit more but has an atom rather than a celeron.
Further to supermanns comment there is a similar all-one-pc with a Z8350 processor
It also has Windows 10 and 2GB RAM/32GB ROM and they are going for £76 on ebay...
This is a great deal. I'm looking at one of these to add a cheap Windows 10 license on, cable tie it to the back of my TV and use it for Steam in-home streaming and Xbox One home streaming
johnnyd57uk
20 Feb 17#35
Way too expensive at £100. When they were selling it for £60 it was just about ok for a piece of hardware that never caught on. Very slowwww. Good for Kodi I guess. I'll dig mine out of storage if anyones desperate. Was going to take the ram back out and bin it.
AV1985 to johnnyd57uk
22 Feb 17#43
I'd be interested in buying a used working one if you're selling it! I want one literally just to watch videos on and connect via HDMI to projector!
abigsmurf
20 Feb 17#33
These are great for media PCs but be warned, I'd be very suprised if this can handle HEVC (.h264 successor that offers the same/better quality at 1/3rd file size)
hosiery to abigsmurf
21 Feb 17#42
Consider yourself very surprised. They have hardware support for HEVC (8 bit) and play them very well.
Awaken
21 Feb 17#41
Have fun with your massively inferior plastic box then :smiley: Warning - it won't be new when you turn it on.
Awaken
21 Feb 17#40
They need the massively ubiquitous round Thinkpad PSU.
It's been in use for over a decade, used genuine are about £9, and compatibles from a fiver.
I understand it could be a worry in general but it's really not on these.
On the other hand, a HP Elite USDT takes a random big brick PSU that's actually incredibly rare and about £40, which I found out to my dismay. Luckily I only paid £45 in auction for the i5 sandy bridge that's my current media centre, so at £85 a few years ago, it was still a bargain :smile:
mikerr
21 Feb 17#39
Just be aware that those need laptop style 19v PSU - and some sellers sell without them !
smileo
20 Feb 17#38
For £30 more I'd go for this: http://www.ebuyer.com/728070-asus-vivo-pc-vm42-s173z-vm42-s173z
Comes with Win 10 home, spare SO-DIMM slot for a second stick of RAM and can take a second 2.5" HDD.
Great connectivity with 6x USB ports, DisplayPort and HDM, along with optical out.
Pickup a ThinkCentre tiny instead, full fledged CPU's, much quicker. Not to mention nice metal build quality and almost as tiny.
Look for an M72e, with an i3 and SSD ideally. Quite doable for under £100 now.
Incognitoso
20 Feb 17#32
Low speed CPU + low GPU what can you do ?
1 Web
2 Media player "Kodi"
3 Maybe some gaming with resolution 640 x 480 on medium / low settings :smiley:
4 Use PC for general basic task
Now for less money you can get android box
1 Web (Same experience as PC)
2 Media player "Kodi" Yes Android have Kodi As well
3 Maybe some gaming NOT same gaming but lot of games android
4 Use PC for general basic task - NO you can NOT run exe files it is android not windows PC
Wadadli_Cooler
19 Feb 17#19
Voting cold for any products I have no clue what they are from the title.
edward2910 to Wadadli_Cooler
20 Feb 171#30
Interesting hobby.
InsaneNutter to Wadadli_Cooler
20 Feb 17#31
You could have typed "nettop" in to Google faster than it took to type that reply and vote.
peterpickles
19 Feb 17#29
I got one of these over a year ago when it was very cheap. On paper the specs do not look amazing, but for a media player, If you run LibreELEC-Generic.x86_64 on this (No Windows) it runs really well. Very high quality playback with no stuttering on iPlayer etc unlike some devices. It may only be a dual core but the on board video chip very capable. Also handy being able to upgrade the ram.
I'm pretty good with hacking. Will probably buy this and crack it open, place a snapdragon into it and install jellybean ice-cream nougat. I could then put steam in it or something.
subliminalaura to charliemike
19 Feb 171#25
Or you could get a full time job
subliminalaura
19 Feb 17#23
Voted cold.....
Was hot at 60 squid when I bought it. Still running today as my failover router. Great device, very reliable but getting linux on there may be a PITA
I bought this when they were selling it for around £60 as others have commented. I upgraded the ram and was going to upgrade the emmc storage to 64gb but its not possible to get at the storage without damaging the case. The unit is functional, extremely small but slow and is not particularly versatile. Mines in a drawer somewhere.
Kodi should work okay. There was a thread on Kodi forums about mod to support 2160p30 on n3050.
Paid less for the equivalent MSI Cubi N at Scan although no built in storage or RAM but supports mSata and Sata.
kebabthief
18 Feb 17#16
I got one last time with the intention of putting kodibuntu on. Most linux builds failed when installing, and kodi through windows was really slow (and I mean pretty much unusable). It ended up getting sent back.
the__cat
18 Feb 17#15
That's exactly what I bought mine for. It's more than capable as a pfSense firewall.
If you're going to do use it for pfSense though make sure you use the latest release or you'll suffer from crashes and ACPI issues.
beard7
18 Feb 17#12
n3050 is a celeron processor :neutral_face:
VimesUK to beard7
18 Feb 17#13
Whilst I don't think that much of the box for £100, for what I would want, the n3050 Celeron can be a pretty good choice for some uses. As it supports AES instructions it would be good for a pfsense box, used as a router with VPN support for encryption and decryption.
plewis00 to beard7
18 Feb 17#14
It's Airmont architecture which is the same as an Atom - basically, it's the same silicon with a few tweaks; faster but only two cores vs. slower quad-core, graphics slightly quicker.
danielson1978
18 Feb 171#11
I got one and stuck 8gb Ram in it and it struggled with sky go and bt sport via the browser with an ethernet connection - sold it on in the end, I also paid £60 for mine
jasee
18 Feb 17#10
Too expensive for running just Linux, or a media player/server which can be obtained for well under half the price (and would be smaller) also seems to have bios faults
plewis00
18 Feb 172#9
Good if you like the form factor but this is basically a headless Atom tablet - it would be cheaper to get something like a Linx 10 (or equivalent) and plug everything into that. For £100 it's not a lot of spec but will be fine for some.
OpineDevine
17 Feb 17#7
Can Linux make use of USB 3? I like the idea of a little computer for backing up photos to a portable drive on the go.
ShroomHeadToad to OpineDevine
17 Feb 176#8
Yes, since a 2009~ kernel update, the first OS to support USB3.
philphil61
17 Feb 1710#5
I got one of these when they where £59.99 from Ebuyer around May 2016
I upgraded RAM to 8Gb and thought that'd do me
Even just opening a few browser pages then say Kodi then attempt some other program and it'll struggle
@ £60 it was a bargain and I'm OKish about everything
@ £100 it's a no from me and I would of returned it if I had purchased at that price
thekanester
17 Feb 174#4
Voted hot, but note that Amazon is selling the Gigabyte Brix BXBT-1900 (with J1900 CPU - about 2x performance of this). Albeit without RAM & SSD for the same price.
That might be more useful for those that require better performance and SATA storage.
FREEZIN_WOLF
17 Feb 171#3
I've had a really bad experience with one of these.
May have been an isolated incident so won't insist that they're all bad, just that i wouldn't touch another.
Ebuyer were great though when i had to return it.
mikedigitales
17 Feb 174#2
I tried one of these, they're ok, but not silent for anyone thinking down that route.
Opening post
Nice little box for the price, OS not included so put Linux or a cheap Windows licence on it. Far more capable than a Pi for not a lot more money once you get all the bits.
RAM upgradable, disk not, but can take SD cards.
HDMI and Displayport, 3 USB 3.0 ports, Ethernet and wireless on board.
Added bonus, (wired) keyboard and mouse included!
Top comments
I upgraded RAM to 8Gb and thought that'd do me
Even just opening a few browser pages then say Kodi then attempt some other program and it'll struggle
@ £60 it was a bargain and I'm OKish about everything
@ £100 it's a no from me and I would of returned it if I had purchased at that price
That might be more useful for those that require better performance and SATA storage.
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To be honest I'm surprised it's still being sold.
I'm sure there's better offers out there for around the same price, back then there were a few from China that were better specced but not established enough. I'm curious to know what there is now, especially for £100. Quick search and found this Beelink device for a bit more but has an atom rather than a celeron.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plater-Beelink-x5-Z8300-Processor-2GB-DDR3/dp/B01ALH5EKC
It also has Windows 10 and 2GB RAM/32GB ROM and they are going for £76 on ebay...
Ebay Link to Z8350 mini PC
It's been in use for over a decade, used genuine are about £9, and compatibles from a fiver.
I understand it could be a worry in general but it's really not on these.
On the other hand, a HP Elite USDT takes a random big brick PSU that's actually incredibly rare and about £40, which I found out to my dismay. Luckily I only paid £45 in auction for the i5 sandy bridge that's my current media centre, so at £85 a few years ago, it was still a bargain :smile:
http://www.ebuyer.com/728070-asus-vivo-pc-vm42-s173z-vm42-s173z
Comes with Win 10 home, spare SO-DIMM slot for a second stick of RAM and can take a second 2.5" HDD.
Great connectivity with 6x USB ports, DisplayPort and HDM, along with optical out.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/PC-Desktops-All-in-Ones/179/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=thinkcentre%20tiny&_dcat=179&rt=nc&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo&_udhi=100
Pickup a ThinkCentre tiny instead, full fledged CPU's, much quicker. Not to mention nice metal build quality and almost as tiny.
Look for an M72e, with an i3 and SSD ideally. Quite doable for under £100 now.
1 Web
2 Media player "Kodi"
3 Maybe some gaming with resolution 640 x 480 on medium / low settings :smiley:
4 Use PC for general basic task
Now for less money you can get android box
1 Web (Same experience as PC)
2 Media player "Kodi" Yes Android have Kodi As well
3 Maybe some gaming NOT same gaming but lot of games android
4 Use PC for general basic task - NO you can NOT run exe files it is android not windows PC
Was hot at 60 squid when I bought it. Still running today as my failover router. Great device, very reliable but getting linux on there may be a PITA
Old deal turned support thread here....
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/acer-revo-m1601-intel-n3050-1-6ghz-2gb-ram-32gb-ssd-wlan-hdmi-3-x-usb-3-0-free-dos-2439688
Paid less for the equivalent MSI Cubi N at Scan although no built in storage or RAM but supports mSata and Sata.
If you're going to do use it for pfSense though make sure you use the latest release or you'll suffer from crashes and ACPI issues.
I upgraded RAM to 8Gb and thought that'd do me
Even just opening a few browser pages then say Kodi then attempt some other program and it'll struggle
@ £60 it was a bargain and I'm OKish about everything
@ £100 it's a no from me and I would of returned it if I had purchased at that price
That might be more useful for those that require better performance and SATA storage.
May have been an isolated incident so won't insist that they're all bad, just that i wouldn't touch another.
Ebuyer were great though when i had to return it.