I was only thinking last night :man: it must be nearly time for Febs games to be announced :smiley: ...i need to get a hobby :laughing::laughing: ...oh wait gaming is my hobby :confused::confused: ... gaming and excessive hot deal emoji usage :wink::stuck_out_tongue:

Your move PlayStation :smirk:

Yeap, Live gold through MS has always been 39.99, but there has always been a way to get that for almost half the price from a third party, i am stacked until 2019 for £24,99, and considering i get to keep 24 xbox 360 games that run on my xb1 for each year i sub, is simply great value on that fact alone, never mind that you also get 24 xb1 games to play through that time, what a change form 2006 when you got access to online, and that was it.

Well, some people have little interest in multiplayer games, so wouldn't need Gold for that.

That's quite a good month from my point of view.

Good line up, very happy :smile:

Big thumbs up for Project Cars. Was almost going to by the game of the year edition the other week when the deal came up but ideally I wanted the digital copy rather than physical. Very glad I wanted.

I was only thinking last night :man: it must be nearly time for Febs games to be announced :smiley: ...i need to get a hobby :laughing::laughing: ...oh wait gaming is my hobby :confused::confused: ... gaming and excessive hot deal emoji usage :wink::stuck_out_tongue:

That's a good line up.

The Force Unleashes brings back some bad memories of bringing down the Star Destroyer though :confused:

Your move PlayStation :smirk:

4 gooduns - pleased with all of these.

Not a bad month. I am playing the first Monkey Island game atm so I guess getting 2 won't hurt. Just lost interest a bt.

Haven't played either of the XB1 titles before so that's good.

Have finished both of the 360 titles though, in fact MI2 is one of the very few titles for which I actually paid money for the digital version, it must have been cheap at some point. I played the Star Wars game years ago, it was alright not amazing but I imagine it looks rather rough now compared to Battlefront. Boooo Microsoft for not checking with me personally which games I'd prefer!

Only need monkey island this month :disappointed:

Excellent, can trade in my PS4 copy of Project Cars

Project cars...Great month...If only Sony follow suit

Sweet for Project cars and Unleashed!

Project CARS is, in my opinion the best driving racing situation game of this generation. Admittedly it has a MASSIVE learning curve to it (especially when using a controller), which unfortunately may become quite a deterrent for some gamers, but I honestly urge you to stick with it, even if you find yourself lacking the ability to drive in a straight line and/or keep your car on the track.

Monkey Island 2: SE & Star Wars: The Force Unleashed are a great addition to my catalogue as the 360 titles and I look forward to trying out Lovers In A Dangerous Spacetime. All in all, an absolutely great month for Games with Gold. Nice one, Nathan. Heat added, cheers for posting :smiley:

brilliant finally a game I've held off buying, been tempted to get project cars every time its been on sale.

4pm. The last Tuesday of the month :smiley:

good xbox month, happy with those games. anyone know the psn+ games yet?

Awful month. Not sure how people are going wild over a local only co-op game and yet another driving game.

Really good month :smile:

Looking forward to the random average indie game we get on PS Plus too

50 indie. Therefore ****.

If it wasn't clear I'm joking. But this is the mindset of most gamers nowadays.

So glad held out for project cars nearly bought the other day heat for that alone other games not so lol cheers op

Project Cars is a good freebie! Need more HDD space for all these games... :disappointed:

If I signed up to a 14 day trial do I get to keep the games after it runs out?

​Thanks, might have to invest in an annual membership.

HOT from me... P Cars Is a good one..
I logged on last night, renewed for 12 months at a cost of £26.50 (gold offer on xbox store), and also picked up Killer Instinct 2 as a freebie on gold...

Oh boy!

Excellent.

They're available Tuesday 2nd. Announcement is last Wednesday of the month.

Just bought lovers a few weeks ago! Ach well, you win some you lose some.

It's good, having more than 2 players makes it much better, but it's fine with 2.

Lovers in a dangerous space time is supposed to be a good local co-op game.

Is Project Cars: Digital Edition all okay now?

Seems like there were problems a year or two back with refunds being handed out on the digital version as it was full of problematic issues

Never played Force unleashed last gen, so thumbs up from me!

A good month!

Great selection of games, although I will probably never play any of them...

Never played force unleashed, is it still worth playing today?

Use the force Harry

Project Cars? Why not!

​buy* waited* haha :smile:

So close to buying project cars the other, glad I didnt now or i wouldnt of been happy lol great line up heat from me

Not that interested in the games with gold lately. Shame this month isn't really that different for me.

I enjoyed it, and plan on playing through again once it's BC with the XB1 (i.e. when it's released for GwG).

excellent. got project cars for ps4 and have been considering for xbox

Excellent month!

​yes you do. PS+ games become unavailable, but GWG are yours to keep.

Just completed force unleashed... well worth a play through...

Monkey island awesome...

Just bought GOTY for £8 tescos I'll sell the disk for a couple of quid and have all the extra DLC...

All in all a great month.

ooooh I fancied lover's in a dangerous space time.

cars, meh.

Wow, amazing scenes. I was close to buying Project Cars last week too.

Now to find a cheap gold as mine runs out on the 27th and I keep getting that 1 month half price nonsense. A trial might bring up the better promotion.

I've got forza 6 already and enjoy it... Is it worth trading that in given that we are getting Project Cars? How do they match up ?

nooooooooo. just bought project cars digital the other day :disappointed:

sweet. :smiley:

You do not get to keep the XB1 games when your gold expires, but you do get to keep the 360 games, it's been like that since the start m.

Picked up Monkey Island 2 when they use to do offers on a lot of Arcade games, seem to stop doing them, still never seen Earthworm jim cheap but the moment i buy it, it will be cheap knowing my luck. Tried Star wars, borrowed it off a mate but didnt get very far so be nice to try again

No you don't :smiley:. Xbox One games are subscription rentals like the PS+ games, but you do get to keep the 360 games permanently (with a 1 month or greater sub).

Sony take notes

Is project cars split screen?

Almost bought PCars in the Black friday and Christmas sales, so i'm a very happy bunny! Great month!

Nice month. Time to redeem my GwG code. :smile:

​

I have been humming and huing over Project car's for the last few months, glad i waited, and again a cracking month from GWG for me, long may it continue.

great games

looks good!

Whoop! Nothing like gonna buy a game (project cars), then it turns up free. Oh wait there is, I would have bought 3 of these in time :smile: hot for the heads up

Have one months live subscription to use. Trying to strategically activate it so I get the freebies I want.

If I activate on the 31st, I'll get Rayman for 360, Killer Instinct, Project Cars, Star Wars Unleashed and maybe the first games of March?

I believe it was Project Cars as a whole was just buggy as hell. Even my 'game of the year' edition with all the bugs supposedly sorted still had several times where I had to restart.

Heat! Much better this month

Isn't* that next Tuesday? :/

My apologies yes. It's usually the last Tuesday of the month. As the games are released on the 1st, it's the week previous in such case (around 20-23rd time)

Technically, yes, but it would be a bit silly announcing the GWG the day before they start :smile: (I guess due to time differences it would be 1st February in Australia when they announced them)

I wasn't being funny btw. Just wondered if you noticed :smiley:

Thanks

Just that i did a search for info on the game and there were problems with steering, frame rates and the game crashing

Hopefully fixed then

Not too impressed. Feel like I've stepped back to 2015 with this line up. Some of it definitely last gen.

I didn't realise this gen only started in 2016 :smirk:

But yes, considering there's 360 games here, some of it definitely is last gen

Sold my Xbox recently to get a PS4 Pro and gutted ive missed out on project cars. Definitely a racing game I'd like to try, and for free that's an amazing month for Xbox live for sure. PS+ will likely be **** yet again

Where are they published? I didn't know advance info was given. Cheers.

I know that I aren't Buzz, but I'll answer anyway :smile:
Major Nelsons twitter and his website

holy **** that's a really good game for a month. don't have much expectations from PS.

Thanks for posting! I have MI2, is the force unleashed backwards compatible?

Yes, I believe every 360 game that is included in GWG will be/is backwards compatible :smiley:

Yes, you can keep Games with Gold Games forever without gold but idk if it works with trials,

I've got the GOTY edition on ps4 and used to own it on Xbox when it first came out, and they've fixed majority of the major bugs. Great game and even better for free! Have to download on Xbox aswell even though I've got on ps4 :smirk:

Like many others, I nearly caved and purchased Project cars when it's been a good price but happy I waited.

Had it back when it was released and traded it as I found it a little repetitive.

lol I love how predictions were totally wrong

Wasn't monkey island on their a few months ago or is it a different one? Thanks.

I got lovers in dangerous spacetime already, good game but shame it's not online multiplayer, only co-op.

No you can't. Xbox One games from GwG aren't kept when your sub expires/lapses only the 360 games are.


What happens to my Games with Gold games if I cancel my Xbox Live Gold subscription?

On Xbox One, you’ll no longer be able to access your Games with Gold titles if you cancel your subscription. However, if you decide to renew your subscription at any time, you’ll be able to access and play your previously redeemed Games with Gold titles again.

http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/my-account/xbox-live-membership/games-with-gold-faq

Only the 360 games. Not the Xbone games.

Beat me to it but I agree, it's important people get the correct information :smiley:

​colour me corrected then lol my live hasn't run out in years, and I don't intend on letting it do so lol

Really stupid question here...

My sons have Gold with their XBox One S.
Can they get the 360 Gold games? Assuming they're on the reverse compatible list.

Pretty chuffed with the selection, esp with Lovers In A Dangerous Spacetime , as was looking for another decent co op game since me and the Mrs have almost finished Overcooked.

Yes they can. All Games With Gold 360 titles are also Backwards Compatible.

project cars looks tip top! haven't played monkey island 2 since the 12 floppy disk Amiga version and being a star wars fanboy this is a good month for me!!!!

Sold my XB1 just before Xmas too... Not for any other reason than it was gathering dust...
People argue at length about exclusives, raw power, media features and value but I found that it came down simply to what platform my friends are on.
You might kick yourself when you miss a goodie like this but remember to pat yourself on the back when you're playing GT Sport in 4k :smiley:

Maybe, but you should look out for cheap deals for live, sometimes you can get a year for around £25 which is probably worth it.

Subjective, I know but this month's line-up sucks balls

Bore off

Quite a poor lineup for me. Thanks for posting though.

Other than game during BF and xbox direct, you're normally lucky to get 12 months for sub £30 these days.

Great games! Hot!

It's definitely worth it for that price but I use the PS4 a lot more. So it'd be a waste for me. Don't think I've touched the Xbox in over a month!

Yes! star wars is compatible with X1. Will definitely play that and project cars.

Wow MS are really showing up Sony

Excellent month especially Project Cars, take note Sony!

(insert expletive here) lol. Just bought MI2SE the other week lol. Completed one and wanted two to complete that aswell. Both wonderful games I had back on the Amiga 600, the second game had like 12 floppy discs I think, so glad things have moved on since then.

if ps4 don't show some main game's I might not continue with ps plus

There are also offers for 1 month for a quid every now and then (that's how I got the sub for Dec/Jan).

some great free games in that list, that'll definitely keep me busy till next month freebies come out

quite a good month? Understatement :smiley:

It's certainly one of the better months IMO as opposed to AC chronicles china :smile:

Hats off to you Smash... I'd definitely have given up explaining that one by now.

apologies for being a numpty, but I've just bought my son his first xbox - do we need to set up a Gold account to get these games? and then download them, presumably to play for one month free? that correct? does the Gold account cost anything? cheers

Nothing here that particularly appeals to me - I already own Monkey Island 2 twice over and driving games aren't a genre that I tend to enjoy (plus, I just got Project CARS from Humble Monthly :stuck_out_tongue:) - but you can't win them all! I'm looking forward to next month's PS+ announcement soon, though.

Another great month from MS.

I didn't think anything would top Van Helsing: Deathrap from last month.

Great month...If only Sony follow suit..nice

I own both but I completely agree that it comes down to having friends who game on the same platform. And Forza H3 is a beaut, so I'll hope that GT is even nicer...

You have to buy a Gold sub live account around £30 a year but you get 4 games a month 2 x xb1 and you can also play the xb360 on xb1 as well

its well worth £30 for 4 x 12 games!

its a bit interesting each month to see what comes up but over a year there will be something for most people

​i have no regrets getting my pro rather than the xbox, and GT Sport will be lush. The PS+ line up is often a bit crap. But then we do get Horizon Zero Dawn next month and Xbox hasn't got any exclusives until 2019.

last time I played monkey island was on an amiga 25 years ago

You need to purchase a gold sub, but you can play for more than a month. As long as you maintain your gold sub the game is yours

If I delete a game from a previous GwG month that's on my hard drive. Can I download it again for free again in the future?

Yes

​yes,as long as your still have an active gold account (xbox 1) if you have the 360 then you can download again at anytime with or without an active gold account

Just went on to get these....
It's not
February yet :disappointed:

Not long to wait :smiley:

Yeah most certainly is Microsoft have definitely won now never mind all the amazing exclusive's Sony has or the more powerful hardware or the fact twice as many people own a PS4 or... Oh wait

​I also sold my xbox. Also my ps4. And replaced both with an Xbox One S and a PS4 Pro (Wii U will soon be replaced by Switch). Why didn't you both just keep the xbox couldn't have got much for it anyway and while GT Sport in 4k might turn out well, Forza Horizon 3 in 4k will take some beating.

Fifteen hundred degrees of heat. Fifteen hundred?

Certainly explains a few things anyway.

I didn't realise halo was on psn?

Haha, loved it. Annoying swapping discs with locations though.

Another month where i remember I've already bought one of these games and not played it yet

Don't be silly, he didn't say anything about MS 'winning'. Sony will have to push the boat out if they want to beat this month's GWG offerings though.
As for more powerful hardware, well that won't be a selling point when the Scorpio is released.

Man... I remember that, swapping out disks every few minutes. It came in a big box with a coded wheel to bypass security. Those were the days. :man:

And this is why I've moved from PS4 back to Xbox as at least getting some good games vs ps+ for paying to play online!

You realise you've just described half the GwG we're getting this month don't you?
**** indie title: Check
Remaster: Check

Lol poo again "/
Good for some people but personally not had one i wanted in months

Seriously, why do you appear on every Games with Gold deal that goes hot just to post negative comments ? I have no doubt you will as usual be talking up the PS+ game's even if they are terrible when they go live.

Monkey Island 2, my favourite game of all time! But I think if anyone is a fan of that particular genre then they'd have played this particular game to completion multiple times.
Voted hot for the overall selection!! :smiley:

You DO keep redeemed GWG games but not accessible unless you have a Gold subscription, but you never lose them.

No doubt. I hear they're giving us Knack this month.

Is this what you are all clinging to now, You clearly have the inferior console so you like to feel gwg is what is important now.
The free games a month are just a little bonus, I'd rather they had AAA titles I want to play on sale which they always are with the PlayStation. I am always buying games from the store cheap as I can buy psn credit off eBay for next to nothing, I normally get £35 for £25 which you cannot do with the xbox! Enjoy playing gears of war or whatever it is you all play next month while we all enjoy the new horizon.

Renewing my subscription on the 31st Jan to make use of the Jan games as well...BOOM!! hottt!!

And on the Scorpio which is released a whole year after the pro pretty much at the end cycle of this generation if the price is anything over £400 which it looks like it is definitely going to be for native 4k which when you compare native 4k to what pro does there's is virtually no difference Also it really benefits having exclusive titles designed just for that console which Microsoft clearly have very little of and if Sony brought out the PS5 in 2019 it is more acceptable than bringing out a new console 2 years after the Scorpio is released and what you have most likely have paid £500+ for.

Lol fanboy.

Not really just more of a realist

awesome month

Next Tuesday is the 31st Jan though.

Yes, I think it's quite safe to say I have butchered the whole month of January :smile:

Sorry to go off topic here but would appreciate and help with this xbox live problem.

Has anyone here having problems trying to watch purchased rented films/TV programmes via xbox live.
When I try to download films I keep getting error message 'Can't get the licence needed for playback Please try again later'
Had to contact Xbox both via chat and phone as account was debited but unable to download or play paid for films, game demos and TV stuff.
Apparently Vir*** and S*y are having these problems but keeping it quiet.
Have just had to cancel my xbox live as unable to download films or games as keep getting disconnected
Just spoke with Xbox CS on phone who are aware of this 'emerging problem'

Hope this helps
heat to op

nice one :smile:

Won't be tomorrow, next Tuesday is the last in the month.

They're announced on the last Wednesday. Released on the first Tuesday.

Now that is one thing I got correct this month :smile:

Thumbs up from me for Project Cars & Force Unleashed, but Monkey Island 2 doesn't appeal in any way. I played the first when it was on GwG the other month, for all of 20 mins and hated it.

​awful? ahah

​no you don't get to keep them without a sub, x360 you do but not one gsmes

few observations on this thread....

first I cant believe people strategically subscribe to gold... at 20/25 quid a year is it worth mucking about?? its cracking value over 12 months....

secondly... people say Monkey island doesn't appeal????

Broken Britain right there.....

I blame brexit...

before brexit EVERYONE knew Monkey Island is one of the greatest games off all time.

the monkey island games are a great nostalgia trip for those who played them back in the day and I still find myself laughing at the jokes, but can also see how people new to the series might not get it. a little dated now!

one of best xbox months ever!

So if I sign up for a month, get these games then cancel, will I still have access to them?

Please point me in the direction of Live Gold Annual subscription for £20/25, for existing subscribers getting ready to renew....

Got my boys an Xbox one s for xmas - can they get these games, how does it work? sorry not a gamer! :stuck_out_tongue:

Buy a year subscription to Xbox Live and then get the free games every month with Games with Gold. You'll get 4 games a month (you go into the Gold page and purchase them for free, it's not automatic) some you'll like and some not, but it's so cheap over the year that if you like 1-2 a month you're getting value.

Maybe search on here for the cheapest Live sub right now. CD Keys usually have deals and give 5% off with a code you get from their Facebook page. Every little helps! :smiley:

in UK we should be getting PEGI rating?

Good games. Thanks for the post,.

Note: I am unsure why people feel it should be compared to the Playstation releases though....it's like having a Ferrari and a SEAT and the Ferrari owner saying "Look what freebies I got when I got the car". The Xbox (In my world and my opinion - Which is without question or challenge ...as it's my world and my opinion defined) is considerably better than the PS4 for me, and I come a PS background.....but I wouldn't really compare anything to the PS4 as there is simply no win in being negative about it. If people choose to follow Sony, great for them......if my choice is different....Great for me. Consoles are about the games and personal choice......so just be happy with the path you have chosen. I chose all the paths, but just tend to walk one more than the other.

Credit where due, this is infinitely better than yet another indie game on PS4- the PS4 free games are a disgrace. I know, people will say that actually, Indie Warrior Baby 3.5 s, despite its pixellated graphics, pinging sound, and the fact it was programmed by a 10 year old in his first junior school government sponsored coding session, is actually a work of gaming art, BUT I WANT REAL GAMES LIKE MICROSOFT GIVE.

INDIE GAMES ARE REAL GAMES! Don't get all the indie game hate at all, they offer some of the purest forms of gaming there is and are much closer to the kinds of game that started gaming off in the 70s and 80s in style and spirit. They are JUST the gameplay with minimal window dressing and story, which for me is hugely refreshing when you have just come off a big AAA blockbuster like GTA 5 or Mafia 3 etc and yes, I love these too, not hating on AAA games. I think indie games are a wonderful 'pallet cleanser' between the main course that are AAA blockbusters and the industry would be far poorer without them. By poorer I mean worse, not less money, I'm sure AAA juggernauts would carry on making money regardless.

The REAL gamer's play indie games not just AAA, because they are the purest form of game out there. if you can only play a game that has an open world that could rival several real cities, or a plot and sfx that match hollywood movies and a hour plus hand holding tutorial, then you really aren't experiencing much of what actual pure gameplay is...

psn take note...

a great month!

Hi folks, crazy question but new to Xbox store:- can I download these games for free with my Xbox gold subscription? If so, where from? Is there a particular section I need to go into?

On this page scroll down and they will show when available for download

XBOX GAMES WITH GOLD

Savage burn. :smile:

Each to their own, I personally hate Indie games, due to the fact I feel i've already played them... in the 80s where i feel they belong. But that's my own personal opinion and I respect yours but it wont be everyone's

.

It's funny how this thread always gets people talking about PS Plus and vice versa. Would be great if the Gravity Rush and Lego Batman 3 rumours turn out to be true! Assassins Creed China also.

Is there a back catalogue of gold games to download? I cannot see that many in the gold section in the online store?

Zzz yet another racing game.

Buy*

Ask me about Loom™

Great line up best month in ages.

Personally, I don't think racing games are all that well represented on either PS Plus or Games with Gold and I would actually like to see more. Admittedly the 360 has had a good few, F1 2013 and some of the Dirt games I believe but apart from Project Cars I don't think the Xbox One has seen many on Gold, nor PS4 on PS Plus, though I'd be willing to be corrected if I've forgotten some. There was Loco Cycle on Xbox One but that is hardly a pure racer...

The crew?

​I am not arguing that racing games are over represented in gold section I am just personally tired of them. I bought xbox one s with forza horizon 3, my first month on gold I got burnout paradise, there was gold discount for rocket league which I bought and now project cars. These are all great games but I personally would prefer something else.

So, tell me about Loom™ :man:

Wrong game, FWIW :stuck_out_tongue:

If anybody is interested here's a breakdown of the games in February:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nlcw2THUnk

I previously had the GOTY edition of Project Cars and all the DLC, but traded it in as I wasn't getting on with it. Will the download codes I used be compatible with this version?

You mean the latest masterpiece of fantasy storytelling from
Lucasfilm's™ Brian Moriarty™? Why it's an extraordinary
adventure with an interface on magic... stunning, high-resolution,
3D landscapes... sophisticated score and musical effects. Not to
mention the detailed animation and special effects, elegant point
'n' click control of characters, objects, and magic spells. Beat
the rush! Go out and buy Loom™ today!

(btw yes I realise that but its still my go to monkey island reference for everything monkey island related)

good line up unless you own just the 360... then it's utter pants

Well, I'm sold :smile:

I'm guessing you have to wait till the 16th before you can download these?

Two are available from 1 February, two from 16 February - see dates in the opening post.

You assume too much - I own a PS4, not an XB1. I'm still able to recognise which service is offering the better value for money though, and that is currently XBL Gold.

can you play the xbox 360 games on Xbox One?

I clicked the link and I got the answer....Yes

Just out of interest as I dont have gold but considering it to get Project cars, is it one of them racing games where tons of the content needs to be paid for to unlock, with limited amount available as a free player?

I own this version on PlayStation 4 (from just after release) and honestly never felt the need to purchase any additional content, in fact I didn't.

I own the Game of the Year edition on Xbox One, and even though it does contain -

An additional 50+ cars (125 total)
4 tracks (35 unique locations, 100+ layouts total)
60+ community-created liveries
500+ features and improvements that have been added since launch

I honestly believe the vanilla edition is solid enough to allow you to have decent racing experience with no need for additional purchasing :smiley:

Thanks a lot, exactly what I wanted to hear! :smiley: Will definitely be giving it a go

No.... The games are only available for a limited time, as indicated on the original post, and if you haven't selected to download the title before that date expires then you no longer have access to it.
If you are just signing up to Gold now, you won't get access to previous months' titles.

Tasty line-up :smiley:

Don't understand why anyone with an Xbox one wouldn't have gold. Surely you need it for multiplayer? For me I really couldn't care less what the free games are every month. It's just a bonus on top of the service.

Normally they now only ever put 360 games that are compatible with the One on.

Xbox gold is so expensive right now £35 is cheapest I've been able to find for 1 year, kinda silly, it was £20 last year.

Well, some people have little interest in multiplayer games, so wouldn't need Gold for that.

Hard to justify the price going up from like £19.99 for 1 year up to £39.99

For anyone interested Lovers In a Dangerous Space Time is usually reduced for Valentine's Day. So it's likely to come up on Steam too.

A decent line-up, now just need to renew my Xbox Live subscription, any good deals around? THis is the first time in 7 years i've let it expire, makes me twitchy.

Hasn't gone up at all MS price is the same as always. If a third party does it cheaper at certain times that is nothing to do with MS price.

Nice. Blimey o'reilly Project Cars.

I have little or no interest in Multiplayer but find that for the money (especially if you pick up a code when 20/25 quid... its amazing value - same as EA access.

I guess the two cost £45 and some may prefer 1 full price game of their choice but I am sure over the year even the most niche of game would find value and time used in games on GWG/EA access higher than most single full game purchases...

maybe I am not that fussy.

I agree - I'm similar to you, albeit don't feel that I need EA Access as well as Gold.

EA is a decent pick up for me as I wanted UFC 2 and enjoy American sports so getting NHL and old versions of NBA and Madden was a decent choice, also enough other stuff included that I didn't mind, I have played quite a few hours on feeding frenzy! I have loads of AAA game to get stuck into yet I spend hours on the most basic of games! ha.

Yeap, Live gold through MS has always been 39.99, but there has always been a way to get that for almost half the price from a third party, i am stacked until 2019 for £24,99, and considering i get to keep 24 xbox 360 games that run on my xb1 for each year i sub, is simply great value on that fact alone, never mind that you also get 24 xb1 games to play through that time, what a change form 2006 when you got access to online, and that was it.

The backwards compatibility and the fact you get to permanently keep the last-gen games is one reason why XBL Gold is far better value than PS+ as it is now, and this is coming from a PS4 owner.

A good month from MS. Myself and 3 teenage boys have consoles in quite a few different rooms in the house.

I personally move between console brand and generation very often, sometimes in the same day. It all depends on who's in and what I'm currently playing.

I must admit to always being on the side of Sony in general and even more since PS4, any new purchased games were PS4, but that was until now and it all comes down to 2 things.

Firstly the syncing of clouds based games, MS has this down to a tee, play a game, shut down the console and game is saved to the cloud, be it XOne of X360. On PS4 my games are saved overnight (not instantly) and also, here's the kicker.... only on my Primary console. So if I am playing in one room and then later in the day start in another room (on my non primary console) my saved game is not there. I have to go back to the other PS4, manually upload to the cloud then go back the PS4 I want to play on and manually download the saved game.

Before anyone says aww, didduummms, what a wrench.... I completely agree, it is a total first world problem and I know I am a lucky person to have this type of problem. But, as an avid gamer you do notice these time consuming events when they happen a few times a week and you do seek a solution, that's just the way it is. Plus the fact I have lost track before and manually copied over saved games by mistake with an out of date version.

Secondly, Backwards Compatibility. I never really thought this would be a game changer but as I plough through many last gen games that I never got round to playing I must admit to going MS every time now. The ease with which I can switch between Xone and X360, each time picking up where I left off, it just works.

The difference between running in 1080p or 900p was the game changer for me before, but TBH the difference is only noticed under a microscope so for me at least I am an Xbox convert. Sorry Sony, but you really do need to improve cloud saves, you are way behind the curve.

~20% is down to the GBP deprecation since the brexit vote.

The official price has not changed.

Big win, with anything starwars, especially the best Star Wars game in the last 10 years..
Here's a 2 minute vid on why you should play the Force Unleashed.

Official price was always high. The £20 deals were from cdkeys etc. who no longer have the margins to sell at that price.

You sound like you spend your days trying to stretch your 4skin over your analogue sticks just for the fun of t!

The official price has remained the same it has Not gone up 20% so nothing has changed, just because CD keys 'sometimes' does a bulk of cheap Xbox live keys that has not changed either, they were offering Assassin's Creed Unity for 94p for the Xbox one version the cheapest it's ever been just a couple of days ago so your 20% Remainer wishful thinking fee is wrong.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/xbox-one-assassins-creed-unity-0-94-cdkeys-5-discount-2614780

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