Volkswagen, Scirocco Diesel Coupe 2.0 TDi BlueMotion Tech R Line 3dr
Contract term 24 months
Rental profile 1 + 23
Annual mileage 8000
23 monthly rentals of £233.77
Initial rental £233.77
Processing fee £300.00
Finance doc fee £0.00
Offer expires 28th Feb 2017
Days remaining 52
Prices are displayed inclusive of VAT
Top comments
bellboys
7 Jan 1730#14
Sorry, couldn't resist <3 (i drive a Seat diesel BTW :stuck_out_tongue:) Heat added.
nictry to PERCY_LONG_PRONG
7 Jan 1722#8
How about clicking the link and finding out for yourself? Just a thought!
Common Sense
7 Jan 1713#2
Someone should come up with a comparison site of lease -v- purchase (and depreciation) so one can work out the difference over the period of lease.
PERCY_LONG_PRONG
7 Jan 178#19
i did but couldnt see it. How about not commenting unless its constructive d1p sh1t?
Latest comments (150)
defgimp
28 Mar 17#150
Mine arrived yesterday, very nice car! (wouldn't want to spend £30k+ on one though, don't mind using VW's money of course :smirk:)
Still not sure what you pay a leasing company for, especially if the deal is or was available through a dealership?
Well, know that now, will try a dealership direct first time next time.
Thanks OP
Bertos
14 Mar 17#149
[/quote]got a similar mail - not happy :disappointed:[/quote]
I can't understand where they are getting those figures from either. Current two year tax cost is £585. The new tax cost is £940. The extra difference is £355. Not £445.
And everyone one new the tax was going up. I fail to see how that's our problem. I've signed an order form at a price which says road tax is included throughout the term.
Darrelg
14 Mar 17#148
got a similar mail - not happy :disappointed:
M1LES
13 Mar 171#147
I placed my order direct with VW (Vertu) and I recieved the following email a couple of weeks ago:
Good news! As your car was ordered before 1st March your vehicle will not be affected by the first vehicle license (VED) increase if it is going to be registered after 1st April.
Bertos
13 Mar 17#146
Email received this morning: Cannot say I'm impressed.....!!!!!
"We have been advised that your vehicle may not arrive in time to beat the new VED cost applicable from the government to take place on the 1st April.
With this in mind there maybe a £445 increase on the car that you have ordered, meaning that the monthly payment would increase by approx. £17.50 per month"
Anyone else had the same?
harrybeeee1
12 Mar 17#145
I'd be hassling them. If they're the broker their only job was to pass on the deal for you, and they haven't!
defgimp
12 Mar 17#144
Haven't done a lease before this one so not sure exactly what or who I should be talking to?
My order/contract as I understand it is with Yes-Lease, they're the people I've spoken to about this, they're the people I have ordered this through?
The excess mileage charge I've have signed up to is different to the excess mileage charge on the finance documents that have come to me from VW finance, via Yes-Lease.
I have questioned this difference with Yes-Lease and they have informed me that it's nothing to do with them and I should take it up with VW finance?
I have had no dealings with VW finance since the start of this, as such I think it's up to Yes-Lease to sort it out/rectify it, that's who I have been dealing with/placed the order with.
Am I right in thinking this or does it work differently on leases?
M1LES
10 Mar 17#143
I have a build date of 20/03.
Has anyone purchased gap insurance? Any recommendations?
Darrelg
10 Mar 17#142
Do you just insure "leases" like normal , as long as you make them aware who actually owns the vehicle, or is that far too simple?
yes, insurance is pretty much the same: you declare that you are the registered keeper but a lease company is the legal owner. Most insurance sites have these values available as drop down options. May even improve your premium as lease customers can be more protective of the car as they'll face a hefty supplement to the lease company if they hand it back with any damage.
defgimp
7 Mar 17#141
If anyone is still reading this, mines ready, they are just waiting for the paperwork which they "emailed" on the 22nd of last month but didn't actually arrive until I questioned them about it today?
It was resent almost instantly, don't know why I didn't receive it the first time round? Anyone else had any such issues with Yes -Lease, wasn't moaning, these things can happen, just wondered if it had happened to anyone else?
Also, when I signed up to the deal, the excess mileage was 7.5p including the vat. On the paperwork I've been emailed today, which is the finance document/details, the excess mileage is now 9p+vat=10.8p per mile.
Not a huge difference but a difference none the less, especially if we get carried away and do far more miles than we intend to?
Anyone else moaned or questioned the excess mileage charge before and got anywhere?
Do you just insure "leases" like normal , as long as you make them aware who actually owns the vehicle, or is that far too simple? :smirk:
Thanks for any advice guys and gals
Bertos
7 Mar 17#140
Mine went from stage 3/7 yesterday morning to 5/7 this morning. It's been built and is now in transit. Now a wait of up to 4 weeks from now...
Build week was confirmed as 06/03/2017
ed2093
3 Mar 171#139
took delivery of ours direct from vw on 1st march which was ordered in response to this deal. Very nice it is too.
Darrelg
27 Feb 17#138
Now at Step 3 with build date of 20/03. 2.0TDI with DSG.
Sunni
14 Feb 17#137
Still no build date for me. Looks like I shouldn't expect it before mid April.
Bertos
14 Feb 17#136
Build week of 6th March for me. R DSG.
dannodw
11 Feb 17#135
As above I've gone from the January build week status to 'built and in transit' overnight.
defgimp
10 Feb 17#134
Ooooo, mines been built and is now in transit :smiley:
Takes 4 weeks from being built to get to the retailer which would put it at the first week in March-ish.
Build week has been confirmed as the 6/2/17 but it's not changed from that all week and today has skipped the in production tab and is now on it's way
dannodw
9 Feb 17#133
Re: my above comment. The status of my order is still on step three showing the 30/1/17 build week date. I've just noticed on my original correspondence with NVS is that the build week is actually starting the 20/2/17, so who knows!
Sunni
8 Feb 17#132
Same situation as me. R with DSG, no build date.
I think sourcing components for the DSG isn't easy so will take longer.
Bertos
6 Feb 17#131
I've still not had a build date yet. Still showing stage 2 of 7. Mine is an R with DSG. Anyone else with one of these had a date yet?
defgimp
26 Jan 17#130
Any idea or has anyone done this before and so has a better knowledge of it, how long it is from "build week" to delivery, ball park figure like?
dannodw
24 Jan 171#129
I'm showing step 3, with a build week commencing 30/1/17 confirmed.
Sunni
24 Jan 17#128
Thanks. I was given a lead time of around 11 weeks. But then I did choose a few options.
Darrelg
24 Jan 17#127
Yup - at step 2 of 7: "with the factory ... being scheduled for production" which is a little worrying as I was led to believe I'd be taking delivery in 8 weeks time
Sunni
23 Jan 17#126
Everyone got their order numbers through? Still waiting for mine.
Ricky
20 Jan 17#125
Local dealer for me. No admin fee is the big difference so saving between £200 and £300 there. I went for the DSG on 20k miles on a 3+23 profile and I was happy with the deal I got.
HarryB
19 Jan 17#124
Fair enough, thanks for explaining further. Nice cars - they hadn't been on my radar until now.
umirza85
19 Jan 17#123
yeah its a must have now after using it for a year (with android)....wife has an iphone and even she was thinking of switching phones just to use Android Auto. Being able to read and reply to whatsapp messages is just the icing on the cake of everything else it can do.
The apple carplay is in such a sorry state...mostly to do with the fact you can only use apple apps. The experience between the two is just night and day.
Darrelg
19 Jan 17#122
For me it's £2639.99 up front and 23 payments of £169.16. That's £6530.67 in total - £620 more than this post, but more expensive colour, DSG and more miles so happy with that.
HarryB
19 Jan 17#121
Ouch. That's pretty steep upfront when this deal is a 1+23 .
I'm taking bad after getting a Leon FR184 on 1+23 10k miles for 209
Darrelg
19 Jan 17#120
I secured my lease deal last week with NVS - they were the best price (by ~£130) for my particular requirements: white, DSG, 2.0 TDi R-line, 10k miles, ~£2600 initial payment, 24 months. The car itself is being provided by Newcastle Lookers VW - might be worth trying them direct (my local VW dealer couldn't get anywhere near NVS price)?
HarryB
19 Jan 17#119
Interested in a diesel dsg
When people are saying they rang VW .. Who in particular are you calling? Local dealer or something else. Cheers
Sunni
19 Jan 17#118
Car-Net is an optional extra. I went for it personally.
Sunni
19 Jan 17#117
Is that the DSG? Which colour did you go for?
dannodw
18 Jan 171#116
Same here with the order number.
Managed to get the 280bhp 2.0 TSI deal for £230 per month on a 3+23 profile a few days ago. I see that is now over £500 if done today!
Can't wait now!
Bertos
18 Jan 171#115
Had my order number come through yesterday so it can be tracked through production. They appear to be coming from Lookers Newcastle.
umirza85
17 Jan 17#114
Do any of these scirocco leases come with android auto?
defgimp
16 Jan 17#113
I'm having the manual version, only because she "doesn't like automatics" :smirk:
In the indiam(?) grey metallic. Would have had the DSG if I'd have got the free colour option, nearly bought a white one to 'split the difference' as it were, but she "doesn't like white ones"
Have a Scirocco already and have been hankering after the R but would never actually buy that version!
But, given the state of the country and emissions and the rise in electric, can see things like this being obsolete or taxed to a point that removes any enjoyment in a few years so bit the bullet and ordered one!
Still struggling to get my head completely around "renting" one, try to think of it as buying the depreciation monthly-ish :smiley:
Hope you enjoy it!! :smiley:
Sunni
16 Jan 172#112
Went for a Scirocco R 280bhp DSG in Signature Metallic Rising Blue.
Can't wait. Have wanted a Scirocco for years.
defgimp
16 Jan 17#111
Give VW a ring, what's the worst they can say? :wink:
defgimp
16 Jan 17#110
NVS are still quoting the DSG 2L 280 Tsi as available if that's the one you're after?
Same deal as above but £186 in metallic but with £240 fee!
They are saying on the website that white is still available?? Which would be £173 plus the fee, bit better if they really do have the white? NVS Scirocco 2L Tsi 280 DSG
defgimp
16 Jan 171#109
Lookers VW had 4 black 2L Tsi 280 DSG available when I spoke to them this morning.
5000 miles, 24 months, £2400 initial and £188 a month there after.
The headline rate was £162 but that was based on the urano grey that doesn't seem available on these offers.
Didn't enquire about any others, they were listing the same variant in the manual and the 150 r-line diseasal, but didn't enquire if they had any? Lookers VW Scirocco offer
sh041b95
16 Jan 17#108
So what deal do we go for then? Do we ring VW? Or do we get it on here?
defgimp
14 Jan 17#107
That sounds about right, didn't get very far yesterday with one of them so emailed another and they couldn't do what I'd asked them to, needed to call in?
Sunni
14 Jan 17#106
They sound good on paper but you won't actually get those deals. I called multiple Lookers dealers. Some weren't interested. Others promised individual quotes but none sent one through.
defgimp
14 Jan 17#105
Lookers VW seem to have some variants of the Scirocco on a "special lease offer"
The 2L Tsi 280 DSG is apparently available at £2400 + £162 a month on a 5000 mile 24 month contract?
I'm no where near one of their dealerships, they wanted me to call in and discuss it?
Was trying to get a definite quote/stock/colour/fee sort of thing but haven't got anywhere fast?
Certain dealerships don't know what a lease is and want me to take a PCP which wasn't what I rang about?
Darrelg
13 Jan 17#104
yes, a grey DSG. My comment related to the fact you can't get a grey manual (for delivery in March) and hence the original deal can't be achieved.
I've heard great things about the DSG when paired with the petrol 2.0 R. I'm hoping it works well with the TDi too ...
Ricky
13 Jan 17#103
This morning I've secured an Uranu Grey DSG Scirocco from VW direct so there must be some around but maybe none with the lease company.
I've gone for 3+23 at £295 a month based on 20000 miles a year. Seems a decent buy but I've never had an auto before so I'll have to see how I get on with that.
Darrelg
13 Jan 17#102
Just to be clear, you can no longer get the deal in the original post - there are no Uravo grey TDi manual R-lines left. However, there are a few similar deals out there. I've just secured a white TDi auto R-line with NVS for £2639.99 up front and 23 payments of £169.16 for 10k miles a year. That's £6530.67 in total - £620 more than this post but for 10k miles pa, in white and DSG. Here's the link:
My local VW dealer couldn't get anywhere near these figures.
M1LES
13 Jan 17#101
I signed up to a solid white TDI R Line DSG yesterday afternoon direct with VW, works out at £240ish for 8k miles.
This is my first lease so can anyone recommend any gap insurance providers?
Adao
13 Jan 17#100
I might try and give the local VW dealer a call as well then
ed2093
12 Jan 172#99
The wife has ordered one of these after seeing this deal but after yes lease were a bit vague about the excess mileage charge I rang my local VW dealer who actually beat their price by approximately £500 over the term as there are no fees to pay with VW direct.
They came in at £250 a month on a 1+23 deal for a metallic bluemotion r line on 8000 miles a year.
Really good value for a car that lists at almost £29k, I worked it out at costing about 21% of list price over 2 years (and yes I appreciate nobody pays list)
At 9.40am yesterday morning 11th Jan VW had the following cars available -
Rising Blue 6 man 8 dsg
Pure White 5 dsg
Indium Grey 8 man 15 DSG
Black 5 man 12 dsg
Ricky
12 Jan 17#98
Can someone assist please
I've been looking at the DSG model as I'm sure I read that it came with the paddle shift as standard. I'm sure I read it on the details when I popped into VW but I can't find it anywhere on line. Any ideas?
cyclops
12 Jan 17#97
Yes most of them dont, some companies have it as an extra. I still dont really understand the maintance fee as i know it has to be with a main dealer, but what are the charges? What if they find something wrong with the car? Would you have to pay to fix it or something, because then the cost could be alot more. Itmay sound dumb but i have never had to service a car so im not sure whats involved or what they even look for
Sunni
12 Jan 17#96
Valid point, but I don't think any of these deals are coming with maintenance included. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Darrelg
12 Jan 17#95
Yes, now expired. 2.0 TDi cars no longer available (anywhere!). Was gonna pull the trigger on this tomorrow - back to the drawing board :disappointed:
Cobman
12 Jan 17#94
Can someone please tell me if this deal has expired or am I doing something wrong?
The original post is coming up at £271 any help appreciated
cyclops
12 Jan 17#93
I got the same to but they said that maintenance is not included but it will need a service before you give back. Otherwise I would of went for it :disappointed:
Sunni
12 Jan 17#92
Got an offer for a 2.0 TDi DSG Tech R Line in Solid colour. 5000 miles as I don't do much.
£5765 total for 2 years. Not bad.
8.38p per mile extra.
defgimp
12 Jan 17#91
From what I can gather, most of the leasing companies only have metallics left?
NVS are showing the 2.0l Tsi R DSG as still available in white if anyone was still looking?
Not rang them but the white is half the price of the metallics if it's still available?
defgimp
12 Jan 17#90
Yes-lease are telling me mid march as these are in production already, they need to be registered before April?
I'm sure it will be the same for the other leasing companies.
Sunni
12 Jan 17#89
What lead times are you guys being given? Still have a few months on my current lease.
Bertos
11 Jan 17#88
Ah sorry, 10,000 miles.
Ricky
11 Jan 17#87
What mileage is that based on Bertos?
Ricky
11 Jan 17#86
Hi Sunni
It was the 2.0 TDI R Line 150ps. Standard grey with no extras. I've asked for a price on the DSG but think it will come in quite a bit more so likely to go for the manual.
It's on a 3+23 so it's 3x£280 up front but no admin fees so that saves a good couple of hundred quid.
Bertos
11 Jan 17#85
If it's anything like the service on my last lease, as long as you get the service book stamped from an authorised garage, then it's up to you to decide where and what you pay to get it serviced. I just shopped around for the cheapest. I am not familiar with VW's serving costs, but £20 a month is £240 a year / £480 over the term. I would imagine you can get a service done for cheaper than that. I didn't take the maintenance out on this.
cyclops
11 Jan 17#84
Hi do you know how the maintanace works on a 2 year lease, when i spoke to the leasing company they said that i would have to get it done once in the second year? He said it adds on an extra £20 a month which then makes the lease way to expensive
Bertos
11 Jan 17#83
I've gone for a Scirocco R DSG in black. 3+23 at £298 a month with NVS. 10,000 miles. The colour added £20ish a month but they were already out of the grey and white unfortunately. Tried going to a VW dealer yesterday and they couldn't get near it. I don't mind treating myself this time around.
Sunni
11 Jan 17#82
Nice. Which model is it and is there a deposit?
Ricky
11 Jan 17#81
I've just been offered a decent deal on 20000 miles a year. £280 a month on a 3+23 deal with no fees. That's direct from VW and seems the best deal out there.
sgrenade
10 Jan 17#80
Was offered to me via letter towards the end of my lease. Think the golf R came in at £22k after 2 years of use and around 12k on the clock. I've seen a few around that price point now so the price offered was not any better. Miss it a lot, the handling was immense.
wanderer999
10 Jan 17#79
Going slightly off thread, has anyone experience of buying their car from VW at the end of their lease?
defgimp
10 Jan 17#78
Never done anything like this before so it's a bit of a learning curve, steepish one :wink:
Something I wasn't aware of was that lease vehicles, as I now understand it, include the road tax for the lease duration?
Seeing as the R is something like £770 for two years from April, that made the "forced" metallic paint slightly more palatable as I'd allowed for the road tax when I was first looking, if that makes sense?
Darrelg
10 Jan 17#77
I'm also seriously looking into this (2.0 TDi 150HP GT or R Line). I've contacted a few companies and I suspect there are no Urano grey ones available, which means you have to pay at least another £11 per month for white or £25 per month for metallic. No longer feels such a bargain...
Same for Yes-lease as well, they only have solid white at the minute and then some metallics.
The white adds £12 a month and the metallics adds about £25 :disappointed:
KTy
10 Jan 171#75
I spoke with central leasing (if you're looking at the 280 R deal), they've sold out of the standard Urano grey (man and DSG) so you have to pay a bit more for white
Sunni
9 Jan 17#74
I'm in the same line of thinking as you. Let me know if you find anything.
Bertos
9 Jan 17#73
Will do. A bit more searching this evening has shown the best deal seems to be on the proper 280psi R. The proper R.
Annoyingly most of these lease sites don't state what engine the Diesels actually are, either the 150 or 184. Will have to ring a few companies in the morning.
I'm now leaning to the Petrol R, unless a Diesel 184 R-Line DSG for significantly cheaper reveals itself.
michaelrattenbury3
9 Jan 17#72
If you look at bottom of page a deposit of £1426. Is required for identical car!!!
As someone who in the past has always bought cars outright PCL is a no brainer in the future as the cost of depreciation on a £30000plus car is far in excess of hire charges.quote=brettleon1231]
Volkswagen, Scirocco Diesel Coupe 2.0 TDi BlueMotion Tech R Line 3dr
Contract term 24 months
Rental profile 1 + 23
Annual mileage 8000
23 monthly rentals of £233.77
Initial rental £233.77
Processing fee £300.00
Finance doc fee £0.00
Offer expires 28th Feb 2017
Days remaining 52
Prices are displayed inclusive of VAT
[/quote]
Ricky
9 Jan 17#71
Let me know if you find anything. I need to replace my Leon FR which is a lease deal off here
lutherinlondon
9 Jan 17#70
this or the petrol version....? I'm definitely getting dsg
Bertos
9 Jan 171#69
95% sure this Car will be my next lease. I've been checking all the lease companies the last day or two and now I'm just trying to find the best deal for me. Looking for the 184bhp Diesel model I think with DSG. I will be replacing my 208GTi (also grabbed from this site ha)
techno79
9 Jan 17#68
Are people still buying diesel cars? Especially ones from VW?
Sunni
9 Jan 17#67
Looks good but I'd expect the insurance to be significantly higher too.
KM4353
9 Jan 17#66
How do you check whether you can get it. Can you just apply online and it tells you or do you have to wait till they call you back and stuff.
Common Sense
8 Jan 17#65
Why? How do leasing companies make money then? How does the market work? I do not know,
I would have thought leasing companies get a fleet discount rate on the car, lease it and then sell when you return and take the depreciation hit. They have to make profit from the cost of leasing and base costs on the RRP.
A new buyer, paying cash finds the best deal via a broke/dealer and can often access a near fleet rate discount, depending on model and time of year and take their depreciation hit.
Is it the case the leasing company gets a better discount than a broker and can offer a lower cost for a fixed period?
It may be depreciation is key. I have no knowledge and an interested in being educated!
I have purchased new and kept cars until they are about to "die" (minimum 10 years) an often do not service for years, without issue. (I do have a 21 year old MX3 from new that is SORN and unused for 3 years now. Great working order, they sure knew how to make cars in those days! But fuel consumption is half of its replacement).
I am not sure leasing is cheaper for me.
JABBERWOC
8 Jan 17#64
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
Loonytoad
8 Jan 17#63
If you want a new car, 9 times out of 10 leasing is the way to go.
As an analogy: if your house lost 10% of its value every year and you had the option of either buying it on a mortgage after paying a big deposit, or renting it and paying no deposit, with the rental payments being either the same or less than the mortgage payments, what would you choose to do?
Seems a no brainer to me.
Ricky
8 Jan 17#62
If you switch from the mobile site you can check deals for higher mileage as well. It goes up to 15k miles but I need 20k so I've emailed to ask them. I'm interested in this, been looking at an evoque on a 3+47 deal but I'd prefer another 2 year deal really. I'm on the Seat Leon FR deal off here from about 18 months ago.
That's better for me, I don't even do 5000 miles a year.. :smile:
mcguire85
8 Jan 171#60
I gave an example. In my case with both discounts and low interest If i was to pay cash I would have been almost identical to what im paying over 4 year plus my final payment. If i paid outright and lost my job or my wife lost hers or someone in my family needed a major tap or surgery or anything thats costs 10s of thousands how would i have paid without that money. I dont keep money in the bank to gain interest i couldnt care less about the couple of quid extra.
markymark34
8 Jan 17#59
If someone has £50k in the bank it would be much better if they borrowed the money from themselves. Pay yourself back over four years and save interest (minus the pathetic bank interest you would get from saving the money).
This could save you £3k in interest over 4 years.
I'm comparing purchasing vrs pcp here rather than lease. Buying this particular car new when it can be in your drive for this price wouldn't be a good idea unless the buyer wanted to keep the car for longer than the deal.
Mr No
8 Jan 171#58
They tend to take the monthly rental payments via Direct Debit, not cash at the front door.
PS: A "fully paid up car" still incurs costs that could lead to a "knock on the door".
mutatedllama
8 Jan 17#57
Damn, this seems like a really good deal. Very tempting...
davver99
8 Jan 17#56
Don't worry to much as there not the company you will lease from could end up being vw dealer
Like my 208 gti is direct with peugeot contract hire
mcguire85
8 Jan 171#55
What about people who have 50k in bank but would rather keep it there just incase something major pops up instead spending a full 30k on car????? One of the worst comments heard on here from the 15year old saxo owner. You pay a house up so whats wrong with paying a car up or renting a house/car
m5rcc
8 Jan 171#54
Because not all debt or credit is bad. What you meant to say was "how can people not have control".
Clearly you do not know understand fully the benefits of leasing.
You are correct £167 is the price per month including vat. £235 is the effective price per month over 2 years including the upfront deposit of £2400. I was calculating like for like vs. the op's deal to avoid confusion. Don't forget the ~£200 upfront for admin fees though! Great company to deal with, got my second vw with them now. 6p + VAT excess mileage for me on a 5k/yr deal. Hot deal for the R line also! Heated.
marmaluke
7 Jan 17#50
Where are you seeing £235?? I'm seeing £167 for DSG 5k miles. Any idea how much excess mileage is? Can't see it anywhere. Filled out the proposal form anyway, if it's 8p or less then you're looking at £400 for another 5k miles, which is still decent...brings the average monthly to £200. Cheaper than my Golf R deal, and that lease ends in 3 weeks :disappointed:
xprettyasacarcrashx
7 Jan 17#49
If you pay whatever your arrangement says to pay on time every month then a knock on the door is not a scary noise at all. Just feels a bit like saving up for it backwards to me.
xprettyasacarcrashx
7 Jan 17#48
If you pay whatever your arrangement says to pay on time every month then a knock on the door is not a scary noise at all. Just feels a bit like saving up for it backwards to me.
John Mason
7 Jan 17#47
Agreed, with a lease you don't have the risk of the residual value of the car dropping unexpectadly (because of some scandle for example) in this case the leasing company will take the hit.
dannodw
7 Jan 17#46
Nah, the fiesta st. One of numerous deals that was around with the 208 and the golf r two years ago haha.
shapalando
7 Jan 171#45
sounds like someone who doesn't even have a car or a 15 year old saxo :laughing::laughing::laughing:
cynikill
7 Jan 17#44
208gti by any chance?
fozey
7 Jan 17#43
A fully paid up car does. I have absolutely no idea how people live in debt/credit. Must be horrible waiting for the next knock on the door......
shapalando
7 Jan 171#42
This deal looks pretty good then. :laughing:
pops1975
7 Jan 17#41
Great price... you could approach your local vw dealer for a price match and avoid the fee.
dannodw
7 Jan 17#40
Will this be the 150bhp model? Trying to get up the exact spec.
fozey
7 Jan 17#38
Lease + Fuel = Lots of money
Sunni to fozey
7 Jan 175#39
Does a non-lease car run on air?
scotia2
7 Jan 17#37
I know. None of the lease sites show excess mileage was gonna be my point
Sunni
7 Jan 17#36
Tempted.
sutty
7 Jan 17#35
Ordered a car from Yes Lease last month, very impressed with them.
dannodw
7 Jan 171#34
Very very tempted. Is there a lead time does anyone know? My current lease deal ends on the 1/3/17
stevecavery
7 Jan 17#33
Heat, great price for a genuinely desirable car, not on 5k pa too so should be good for most people considering a lease deal.
nictry
7 Jan 173#32
Ooh name calling how mature! I tell you what I could pop round and help you either push the right button on the website to ask for the answer to your question or perhaps dial the phone number for you if that would help and then a nice person at the other end can answer for you too
hadyanth
7 Jan 171#30
No one has commented on YesLease as a company, I've read about the T&Cs regarding 'reasonable condition' when returning - being used as a tool to fleece the person who leases (upon returning the vehicle). I'm getting a Smart Forfour Brabus soon. I researched the hell out of the companies more than the car.
HertzVanRental to hadyanth
7 Jan 17#31
Vehicles are handed back under a fair wear and tear agreement that details the damage/costs etc when you hand back the vehicle. My current lease is a VW and the lease is undertaken through VW Finance Services that provided me with a copy of the industry standard here.
As far as I'm aware, the lease company that I got it through are just the middlemen that source/contract the deals?
MickKnipfler
7 Jan 17#27
How do you find the best lease deals, is it just a question of shopping around or are certain companies always offering the best deals? I've always bought secondhand myself
c.grex to MickKnipfler
7 Jan 17#28
Wait and they just turn up every now and then.
They will being going up slightly soon due to car price increases and tax increase.
muffboy to MickKnipfler
7 Jan 17#29
Check HUKD regularly, all the best deals get posted here.
ollie87
7 Jan 171#26
Good deal, same about the engine.
And before someone says it, I've always hated diesel, even before the scandals.
good deal but would have to find the deposit upfront, appreciate you are dividing the 2k deposit over 24m
Common Sense
7 Jan 1713#2
Someone should come up with a comparison site of lease -v- purchase (and depreciation) so one can work out the difference over the period of lease.
stuellis to Common Sense
7 Jan 173#6
Problem is depreciation is always theoretical and can be impacted by many factors. It also will never take into account the lost potential interest, lets say you buy a car out right for £10k, how much could you have saved paying that off other debt or how much could you have made investing it. It makes it near impossible to say which is better as it depends on an individuals circumstances.
mcguire85 to Common Sense
7 Jan 17#17
I will give you an example. I have a Golf GTD 16' from brand new. Got it in May from VW Arnold Clark after waiting 6 week as I wanted Red, 19" santiago alloys, rear view reverse camera and park assist. I paid no deposit, paying 364 a month with 15k miles per year. 4 year with option to pay 9k at end or hand back after 3-4 years. They were however doing a 1500 contribution at the time and they put another 1500 due to my wife buying brand new polo year before
SFconvert to Common Sense
7 Jan 17#24
Trouble is that comparing list price is kind of meaningless, most people don't pay near list price unless it's a new in demand car, and if it was then you wouldn't get any lease deals like this. If you bought this outright at the best possible price then the two options would be roughly similar over a large enough sample size / length of time. But it's also a question of risk.
There are many more factors to consider, for example certain cars that are in high demand when first released may be less desirable a couple years down the line. When I used to sell cars I would get the odd car on the forecourt that I could have sold ten times in a day. Yet a couple of years later that same model can sit for months without a single viewer. This is due to popular cars flooding the market to the point where they common and consumers have larger choice. Another factor is special offers and leases saturate the market at the end of the term. Take the Range Rover Evoque, my brother was getting daily phonecalls looking for used ones, now that they are getting to a certain age he is getting half a dozen traded in a week, most of which he's having to offer lower trade in values as due to the quantity coming back most are going to traders rather than his forecourt.
I guess what I'm saying is it's not a static market and customer demand directly affects prices.
mcguire85
7 Jan 17#20
I never really looked into lease only companies. Happy enough with what I have. Not had much issues with Arnold Clark. Went in few days ago with slow puncture thankfully not on side wall and they repaired there and then and washed car All with no charge.
PERCY_LONG_PRONG
7 Jan 178#19
i did but couldnt see it. How about not commenting unless its constructive d1p sh1t?
happychappy
7 Jan 172#18
Hey have you got a phone in your house "it pays to talk"!!!!
stuellis
7 Jan 171#16
So why do you think it hasn't been done already when there are sites to compare most things already available. Its only possible if you take a simplistic view which renders the information meaningless.
mw92477
7 Jan 17#15
Love the look of this car when I see it out and about. If I had the money for this I'd buy it straight away. Heat added. :smiley:
bellboys
7 Jan 1730#14
Sorry, couldn't resist <3 (i drive a Seat diesel BTW :stuck_out_tongue:) Heat added.
scotia2
7 Jan 171#13
I cliked the link. Didn't see any excess mileage charges listed.
ls10ls
7 Jan 171#12
Very tempted!
batezy_1984
7 Jan 173#11
I'm surprised someone hasn't commented on how rubbish the post is as they do 8001 miles a year.... heat from me!
taker920
7 Jan 171#10
Why don't you tell us the starting point for this car then, RRP? OTR price? Drive the deal price?
BrianSewell
7 Jan 17#9
That's a cop out. Of course it can be done
PERCY_LONG_PRONG
7 Jan 171#7
whats the additional mileage charge? i need at least 20k allowance
nictry to PERCY_LONG_PRONG
7 Jan 1722#8
How about clicking the link and finding out for yourself? Just a thought!
guttediam
7 Jan 17#5
NICE!!!!!! Heat
lutherinlondon
7 Jan 17#4
Volkswagen, Scirocco Diesel Coupe 2.0 TDi BlueMotion Tech R Line 3dr
lutherinlondon
7 Jan 171#3
Volkswagen, Scirocco Diesel Coupe 2.0 TDi BlueMotion Tech R Line 3dr
that is the specific model for those that are interested.
Opening post
Contract term 24 months
Rental profile 1 + 23
Annual mileage 8000
23 monthly rentals of £233.77
Initial rental £233.77
Processing fee £300.00
Finance doc fee £0.00
Offer expires 28th Feb 2017
Days remaining 52
Prices are displayed inclusive of VAT
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Sorry, couldn't resist <3 (i drive a Seat diesel BTW :stuck_out_tongue:) Heat added.
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Still not sure what you pay a leasing company for, especially if the deal is or was available through a dealership?
Well, know that now, will try a dealership direct first time next time.
Thanks OP
I can't understand where they are getting those figures from either. Current two year tax cost is £585. The new tax cost is £940. The extra difference is £355. Not £445.
And everyone one new the tax was going up. I fail to see how that's our problem. I've signed an order form at a price which says road tax is included throughout the term.
Good news! As your car was ordered before 1st March your vehicle will not be affected by the first vehicle license (VED) increase if it is going to be registered after 1st April.
"We have been advised that your vehicle may not arrive in time to beat the new VED cost applicable from the government to take place on the 1st April.
With this in mind there maybe a £445 increase on the car that you have ordered, meaning that the monthly payment would increase by approx. £17.50 per month"
Anyone else had the same?
My order/contract as I understand it is with Yes-Lease, they're the people I've spoken to about this, they're the people I have ordered this through?
The excess mileage charge I've have signed up to is different to the excess mileage charge on the finance documents that have come to me from VW finance, via Yes-Lease.
I have questioned this difference with Yes-Lease and they have informed me that it's nothing to do with them and I should take it up with VW finance?
I have had no dealings with VW finance since the start of this, as such I think it's up to Yes-Lease to sort it out/rectify it, that's who I have been dealing with/placed the order with.
Am I right in thinking this or does it work differently on leases?
Has anyone purchased gap insurance? Any recommendations?
yes, insurance is pretty much the same: you declare that you are the registered keeper but a lease company is the legal owner. Most insurance sites have these values available as drop down options. May even improve your premium as lease customers can be more protective of the car as they'll face a hefty supplement to the lease company if they hand it back with any damage.
It was resent almost instantly, don't know why I didn't receive it the first time round? Anyone else had any such issues with Yes -Lease, wasn't moaning, these things can happen, just wondered if it had happened to anyone else?
Also, when I signed up to the deal, the excess mileage was 7.5p including the vat. On the paperwork I've been emailed today, which is the finance document/details, the excess mileage is now 9p+vat=10.8p per mile.
Not a huge difference but a difference none the less, especially if we get carried away and do far more miles than we intend to?
Anyone else moaned or questioned the excess mileage charge before and got anywhere?
Do you just insure "leases" like normal , as long as you make them aware who actually owns the vehicle, or is that far too simple? :smirk:
Thanks for any advice guys and gals
Build week was confirmed as 06/03/2017
Takes 4 weeks from being built to get to the retailer which would put it at the first week in March-ish.
Build week has been confirmed as the 6/2/17 but it's not changed from that all week and today has skipped the in production tab and is now on it's way
I think sourcing components for the DSG isn't easy so will take longer.
The apple carplay is in such a sorry state...mostly to do with the fact you can only use apple apps. The experience between the two is just night and day.
I'm taking bad after getting a Leon FR184 on 1+23 10k miles for 209
When people are saying they rang VW .. Who in particular are you calling? Local dealer or something else. Cheers
Managed to get the 280bhp 2.0 TSI deal for £230 per month on a 3+23 profile a few days ago. I see that is now over £500 if done today!
Can't wait now!
In the indiam(?) grey metallic. Would have had the DSG if I'd have got the free colour option, nearly bought a white one to 'split the difference' as it were, but she "doesn't like white ones"
Have a Scirocco already and have been hankering after the R but would never actually buy that version!
But, given the state of the country and emissions and the rise in electric, can see things like this being obsolete or taxed to a point that removes any enjoyment in a few years so bit the bullet and ordered one!
Still struggling to get my head completely around "renting" one, try to think of it as buying the depreciation monthly-ish :smiley:
Hope you enjoy it!! :smiley:
Can't wait. Have wanted a Scirocco for years.
Same deal as above but £186 in metallic but with £240 fee!
They are saying on the website that white is still available?? Which would be £173 plus the fee, bit better if they really do have the white?
NVS Scirocco 2L Tsi 280 DSG
5000 miles, 24 months, £2400 initial and £188 a month there after.
The headline rate was £162 but that was based on the urano grey that doesn't seem available on these offers.
Didn't enquire about any others, they were listing the same variant in the manual and the 150 r-line diseasal, but didn't enquire if they had any?
Lookers VW Scirocco offer
The 2L Tsi 280 DSG is apparently available at £2400 + £162 a month on a 5000 mile 24 month contract?
I'm no where near one of their dealerships, they wanted me to call in and discuss it?
Was trying to get a definite quote/stock/colour/fee sort of thing but haven't got anywhere fast?
Certain dealerships don't know what a lease is and want me to take a PCP which wasn't what I rang about?
I've heard great things about the DSG when paired with the petrol 2.0 R. I'm hoping it works well with the TDi too ...
I've gone for 3+23 at £295 a month based on 20000 miles a year. Seems a decent buy but I've never had an auto before so I'll have to see how I get on with that.
https://www.nationalvehiclesolutions.co.uk/Volkswagen-Scirocco-2.0-TDi-BMT-R-Line-DSG-Personal-Lease/37465
My local VW dealer couldn't get anywhere near these figures.
This is my first lease so can anyone recommend any gap insurance providers?
They came in at £250 a month on a 1+23 deal for a metallic bluemotion r line on 8000 miles a year.
Really good value for a car that lists at almost £29k, I worked it out at costing about 21% of list price over 2 years (and yes I appreciate nobody pays list)
At 9.40am yesterday morning 11th Jan VW had the following cars available -
Rising Blue 6 man 8 dsg
Pure White 5 dsg
Indium Grey 8 man 15 DSG
Black 5 man 12 dsg
I've been looking at the DSG model as I'm sure I read that it came with the paddle shift as standard. I'm sure I read it on the details when I popped into VW but I can't find it anywhere on line. Any ideas?
The original post is coming up at £271 any help appreciated
£5765 total for 2 years. Not bad.
8.38p per mile extra.
NVS are showing the 2.0l Tsi R DSG as still available in white if anyone was still looking?
Not rang them but the white is half the price of the metallics if it's still available?
I'm sure it will be the same for the other leasing companies.
It was the 2.0 TDI R Line 150ps. Standard grey with no extras. I've asked for a price on the DSG but think it will come in quite a bit more so likely to go for the manual.
It's on a 3+23 so it's 3x£280 up front but no admin fees so that saves a good couple of hundred quid.
Something I wasn't aware of was that lease vehicles, as I now understand it, include the road tax for the lease duration?
Seeing as the R is something like £770 for two years from April, that made the "forced" metallic paint slightly more palatable as I'd allowed for the road tax when I was first looking, if that makes sense?
Here are links to other companies:
https://www.selectcarleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/volkswagen/scirocco/coupe/20_tdi_bluemotion_tech_r_line_3dr/65542.html
https://www.nationalvehiclesolutions.co.uk/Volkswagen-Scirocco-2.0-TDi-BlueMotion-Tech-GT-3dr-Personal-Lease/37427
https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/65542/volkswagen/scirocco/20_tdi_bluemotion_tech_r_line_3dr.html
(although this is 5k miles, I spoke with them and unlimited miles can be added on at 10.8p per mile)
The white adds £12 a month and the metallics adds about £25 :disappointed:
Annoyingly most of these lease sites don't state what engine the Diesels actually are, either the 150 or 184. Will have to ring a few companies in the morning.
I'm now leaning to the Petrol R, unless a Diesel 184 R-Line DSG for significantly cheaper reveals itself.
As someone who in the past has always bought cars outright PCL is a no brainer in the future as the cost of depreciation on a £30000plus car is far in excess of hire charges.quote=brettleon1231]
Volkswagen, Scirocco Diesel Coupe 2.0 TDi BlueMotion Tech R Line 3dr
Contract term 24 months
Rental profile 1 + 23
Annual mileage 8000
23 monthly rentals of £233.77
Initial rental £233.77
Processing fee £300.00
Finance doc fee £0.00
Offer expires 28th Feb 2017
Days remaining 52
Prices are displayed inclusive of VAT
[/quote]
I would have thought leasing companies get a fleet discount rate on the car, lease it and then sell when you return and take the depreciation hit. They have to make profit from the cost of leasing and base costs on the RRP.
A new buyer, paying cash finds the best deal via a broke/dealer and can often access a near fleet rate discount, depending on model and time of year and take their depreciation hit.
Is it the case the leasing company gets a better discount than a broker and can offer a lower cost for a fixed period?
It may be depreciation is key. I have no knowledge and an interested in being educated!
I have purchased new and kept cars until they are about to "die" (minimum 10 years) an often do not service for years, without issue. (I do have a 21 year old MX3 from new that is SORN and unused for 3 years now. Great working order, they sure knew how to make cars in those days! But fuel consumption is half of its replacement).
I am not sure leasing is cheaper for me.
As an analogy: if your house lost 10% of its value every year and you had the option of either buying it on a mortgage after paying a big deposit, or renting it and paying no deposit, with the rental payments being either the same or less than the mortgage payments, what would you choose to do?
Seems a no brainer to me.
That's better for me, I don't even do 5000 miles a year.. :smile:
This could save you £3k in interest over 4 years.
I'm comparing purchasing vrs pcp here rather than lease. Buying this particular car new when it can be in your drive for this price wouldn't be a good idea unless the buyer wanted to keep the car for longer than the deal.
PS: A "fully paid up car" still incurs costs that could lead to a "knock on the door".
Like my 208 gti is direct with peugeot contract hire
Clearly you do not know understand fully the benefits of leasing.
As far as I'm aware, the lease company that I got it through are just the middlemen that source/contract the deals?
They will being going up slightly soon due to car price increases and tax increase.
And before someone says it, I've always hated diesel, even before the scandals.
I guess what I'm saying is it's not a static market and customer demand directly affects prices.
Sorry, couldn't resist <3 (i drive a Seat diesel BTW :stuck_out_tongue:) Heat added.
that is the specific model for those that are interested.