And the TV prices start to fall. It's not got long left, but I saw it and it seems to be a bargain!
The Latest Quantum Dot Colour delivering over 1 billion colours, 64 times more colour and 2 times greater brightness than conventional UHD TVs. The Flat KS7000 SUHD TV with Quantum dot display surpasses UHD Premium standards so you can experience the next generation of professionally mastered content with 2200 PQI. KS7500 is an exceptional Quantum dot display TV with stunning depth and remarkable HDR 1000 capability for a superior range of luminance, colour and contrast.
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jonboyuk
5 Feb 17#71
Also in the US the 9000 is the 8000 in the UK. The 8000 in the US is the 7000 here. Stupid, I know
sircoynie
5 Feb 17#68
Are the KS7000 and KS8000 the same? This review implies that they are simply named differently in the EU
There are minor differences. Refresh rate, black levels, speaker output....
Shventz
30 Jan 17#67
Ordered the UE49KS7000 from Curry's online yesterday. £849 and if you enter code 50LSTV at checkout price drops to £799 with free delivery and 5yr warranty. Not as good as OP but worth checking if u work for a relatively large company you may well have an employee benefits site. They usually give a bit of a further discount for most the big retailers via instant vouchers. I got a further 8% off for Curry's, so total cost £735 in the end. Good luck.
So do we think UE55KS7000 going to get more stock or discontinued now? No stock in a month or (anywhere) and now UE55KS8000 going out of stock also (JL). Do we think either will go down in price soon. Or will there be a price without these BR players I don't want or allow me to swap for something else same price (soundbar and better HDMI cable).
bma1445 to mro2011
25 Jan 17#64
My friend who works at JL has been after a 55 7000 for a while, since the big sale their system is saying no stock due anytime soon, so I think it'll be a while.
afroylnt
25 Jan 17#62
The lack of good 4k feeds and poor backlight on all 4k tvs that are'nt OLED put me off such that a OLED non-4k TV is the clear winner right now. In a few years time that might have changed as more and more OLED TVs are released. But of course its down to your preference; buy what you will be happy with. For me crap backlights are a no-no coming from a plasma...
bma1445
24 Jan 17#61
It's completely relative. If you have the correct setup (and bandwidth), it's still worth it - especially at these price points.
I have this exact model, and from 6 feet away I can easily tell the difference between the same content in HD and 4K (for example, the Grand Tour on amazon prime). Watching something in HDR, even on streaming services, there is a big difference.
Yes, if you sit 20 feet away from a 49" TV or watch crappy illegally downloaded rips, then of course it's not worth it. And no, you're obviously not going to get the same quality as a 4K HDR blurray, but the quality is still *better* than the same content in 1080. Saying it's not is ridiculous.
afroylnt
24 Jan 17#60
Nice to hear someone prepared to discuss the reality of 4k rather than just repeating marketing gumph.
moneybanks14
19 Jan 17#48
I have an LG 49uf770v that I bought roughly 15 months ago and does not have a HDR or an update available... How much difference would I see between this in 4k and with full 10bit HDR support on an Xbox one s??
mark6226 to moneybanks14
22 Jan 17#59
The only way you will see proper 4K with HDR is from 4K bluray. Streamed 4K with or without HDR is relatively low quality due to compression. The difference in quality between Netflix 4K and proper 4K is startling. At present the availability of 4K is very low. Quality of streams are relatively poor. Also one must say that the range of movies available on 4K bluray is also very poor. Prices are appallingly high.
It's hard to buy a HDTV now, therefore all new to are 4K. This does not mean that people are buying a to for 4K. It means they have no other choice,
There isn't any evidence that 4K is catching on. Given the low quality of steams and virtually no 4K Blu-ray Discs available one must doubt any clams of a 4K revolution.
Yes I do have a very good 4K HDR tv. I use it for 4K gaming, bluray( looks stunning at upscaled 4K) and video. I don't watch live tv. And I gave up on Netflix 4K due to appalling quality of streams.
Stick with your current tv as it seems to meet your needs. Don't get fooled by the nonsense about HDR as there no readily available Content out there that actually does it justice.
Bide your time. There is a massive chance that 4K bluray will fail. BBC have no interest in 4K at present. that leaves just the substandard 4K streams.
If there is a 4K revolution out there then it's the quietest revolution in the history of the world.
TK42
21 Jan 17#58
The 49" model is still in stock at Hi Fi Confidential for only £789. They have good reviews.
nevah01
21 Jan 17#57
I received a faulty tv from john lewis for a price match from currys for 849. Gutted as its out of stock, and have now been refunded. Wish i stayed with currys now.
haritori
19 Jan 17#55
The 55" was £849.99 a couple of weeks ago, but its out of stock everywhere now.. I do not think it will be restocked either past current stock.
mro2011 to haritori
20 Jan 171#56
I think this also.
Wartonk
19 Jan 17#54
Just rang currys they wont price match hi fi confidental,prc direct or mysmarttvs for the 49 inch or 55 oh well
So do we think this will be reduced further in a few months time?
rob200375
19 Jan 17#50
sky movies in HD is a cracking picture on my ue55ks7000 dont have hd sports so cant comment - but kodi hd sports is good
rob200375
19 Jan 17#49
I would agree i have the 55 version and no issues and its a lovely image - only thing for me is the SD quality is average
DancingMatt
19 Jan 17#47
I'd be using it with Sky HD (not Sky Q), a PS4, Xbox One and PS3. Am I right then that the Sky is interlaced for sports, movies, entertainment and so not good on this TV?
rdecoratorUK
19 Jan 171#46
thank you !
jonboyuk
19 Jan 17#45
Does anyone know how the JL price match works? My email from them said I had 28 days to buy it from the date of the e-mail. What if the price of the competitor goes back up within those 28 days? Is the price match subsequently invalid?
ah1512
15 Jan 172#2
Imagine these will drop more in the next month or so as they just announced the Qled q7 models which are supposedly coming in February
I wouldnt bet on it, the 55" normally retails for around £1100.00 and it drops now and again to £899.99 (£849.99 if youre very lucky) as such its not back up to £1100 in most places so the drop is gogin to be around the £900 it is in sales etc.. so i expect the other sizes to follow suit..
you wont ever get this TV for much less, as they will discontinue it than make a loss.
M0nk3h to ah1512
19 Jan 17#43
Yeah I mean the Macbook Pro will be coming down to £200 because they're announcing the new Macbook qPro in Feb :smirk:
Anonknowmouse
19 Jan 17#42
The more expensive models do have more powerful speakers but I think most people would buy a speaker system. I'd pay less for a KS7000 made of cheap plastic with no speakers just an optical out!
There may be an improved anti-reflective coating that allows blacks to look blacker. Not sure unless I read reviews.
drng69
18 Jan 17#40
JL pricematched for me yesterday. Just purchased it online. Delivery on Monday. Can't wait!
jonboyuk to drng69
19 Jan 17#41
Let me know what you think! I went in today and the sales guys were pushing me HARD to go for the KS8000 as it's "immeasurably better due to the faster processor" (ie less judder). They put me off a bit...but they offer 30 day returns so....
jonboyuk
18 Jan 17#39
FYI - JL have price matched it
TK42
17 Jan 17#38
Personally would not buy from JL as has had worse customer experience ever. This was online, not in store though.
jonboyuk
17 Jan 17#37
The offer has extended - can anyone update this thread accordingly? I changed the expiration date but it still says expired on here!
bma1445
17 Jan 171#36
I can only speak from experience, but IMO JL customer services is second to none.
Unless I can't avoid it, I wouldn't buy anything big and electrical from anywhere but John Lewis or Apple.
bma1445
17 Jan 17#35
That's why rule #1 in my book for anything like this is get JL to price match!
That said, the high end Samsungs have been quite reliable I think - our F8000 is coming up to 4 years old I think, and we haven't had a single issue with it.
jonboyuk
16 Jan 17#34
That's so strange. I always buy from JL in store and online and *never* had an issue, even with customer service.
Can see this TV in month or so, been even cheaper than it is now...
haritori
16 Jan 17#31
Watch Amazon Primes The Grand Tour, Namibia Special and HDR & 4k is stunning.
drng69
16 Jan 17#30
I submitted one a couple of hours ago to JL. Finger crossed (especially now it has gone up to £999)
4447
16 Jan 171#28
I had this tv for over a month now and can confirm its absolutely stunning, if you want expert advise then you can adjust picture setting using advise on avforum. Its worth every penny.
However I'd either buy from JL or R'S just for their reliable customer service
Bought mine from JL.
jonboyuk to 4447
16 Jan 17#29
Agreed. I've just submitted a price match online with JL as they're currently selling it for £999! They may not go for it though as the offer clearly ends in 2 days :/
kaisah16
16 Jan 17#27
The 4K I've watched so far has been superb
jonboyuk
16 Jan 17#26
Great response. It's funny that the difference between the TV's is a) really difficult to pin down b) when you do pin it down it's minor.
Samsung claim the 8000/9000 over the 7000 has darker blacks, better motion and better sound as well as "360 design"... you know, for all that time you spend looking at the back of it. However for the difference of between 400-450....seems a little steep to moi.
Anonknowmouse
16 Jan 17#25
Unless the TV board is 24hz capable it will have *slight* judder when watching movies that you may or may not notice from time to time. Obviously it's more noticeable the closer you sit to your TV and/or the larger the screen is. I had a TV with this feature and it was a small, rarely noticeable difference on vs off despite what some reviewers say.
KS7000 vs KS8000/9000 AFAIK the only real picture difference is a higher refresh rate. I think the effect of motion processing is passable at a low level but often it looks weird. I certainly wouldn't pay extra for it, but I may be in the minority as it's frequently a 'high end' feature. To me it's a marketing department finding a minor feature so people pay extra for the same TV.
TK42
16 Jan 17#24
Is motion ok at 4K?
dalby79
16 Jan 17#18
Whats the distance between the feet length and width anyone who has this?
kaisah16 to dalby79
16 Jan 17#23
1M
mro2011
16 Jan 17#21
Will Currys / JL price match?
Marcoos to mro2011
16 Jan 17#22
Yes they should. Currys doesn't seem to require they have a high street store. JL do, but these guys appear to have a store in London :smiley:
taras
16 Jan 17#20
the connect box cable is sadly a custom cable and thus stupidly high prices for the 3m version.its a shame that it doen't use display port for the connector and use a separate power cable so that the cable is easily replaceable...
jinkies
16 Jan 172#19
I've had one of these for 2 weeks and I've only seen judder on interlaced content - eg NOW TV on the PS4 was disturbingly juddery unless I put it into Game Mode, then I changed the PS4 to force progressive video output to either 720p or 1080p, rather than 'Auto' while using that app and it was perfectly smooth even in Movie Mode.
As long as you don't have any inputs that will insist on sending interlaced content and can't be forced to be progressive, there are no downsides to this set, it makes everything from SD content to 4K HDR look fantastic (as long as you calibrate away the default settings that seem to be far to bright, blue and pink). It can show fantastic contrast between black bars and bright scenes even when displaying standard dynamic range, very little blooming.
Good luck if they wind up, go bust, etc. Samsung also seem to blame misuse whenever possible e.g. water damage or impact rather than a defect. The retailer wont be the one repairing your item if the retailer doesn't agree to replace. I don't think it is wise to totally ignore poor manufacturer service. This retailer appears good though from Trust Pilot reviews.
Phil_G
16 Jan 17#15
I paided twice this for mine 5 months ago. Brilliant TV, but would avoid it if you planned to wall mount it. The Connect One Mini box (or something like that) makes this a real pain. Also HDMI-ARC continually forgets it is selected, meaning the TV reverts to the internal speakers frequently.
If you just want to use it on a stand, the TV is awesome.
delusion to Phil_G
16 Jan 17#16
The connect box is what stopped me getting the 55" version. Such an oversight by Samsung. If only the cable was 2 meters longer.
Still tempted but probably missed the best deals now.
haritori
16 Jan 172#14
This issue is supposed to be on both TV's
I have owned the 55KS7000 for 1 week now and I cannot see the judder at all? I had major soap opera effect but reducing motion and judder compensators sorted that out.
the Judder in my opinion is a non issue only affecting very few people, Ive used all sources from XB1s, PS4, Sky HD, Netflix, Amazon Prime etc.. and never ever see it.
dont mack me off
16 Jan 17#11
Shame the customer service from S/sung is sooooo bad. Seems as though the company is corrupt from the top in view of the possible pending arrest.
bma1445 to dont mack me off
16 Jan 17#12
That's why you never deal with the manufacturer - always go back to the retailer!
I have this TV in my bedroom, it's fantastic! Blows our was-top-of-the-line F8000 in the living room out of the water!
rdecoratorUK
16 Jan 17#9
anyone has 55 inch model ? and can meassure distace beetween legs ?
woolymammoth8606 to rdecoratorUK
16 Jan 171#10
111cm
jonboyuk
15 Jan 17#8
So really, other than sound quality are there really any other spectacular differences? Someone said slightly blacker blacks but ...REALLY? Lol!
kaisah16
15 Jan 171#7
Bought this TV recently. It's awesome
azda81
15 Jan 17#6
None that I've noticed ... :sunglasses:
azda81
15 Jan 17#4
Got this from Richer Sounds and 6 years warranty for same price 2 weeks ago. Cracking TV.
jonboyuk to azda81
15 Jan 17#5
What's the 'judder' like? I've been told the KS8000 has a better processor to ensure smooth playback of certain sources. I'm still tossing up between the 7000 & 8000. Hmmm.....
jonboyuk
15 Jan 17#3
They might do, but stock will be limited I reckon!
obsydian
15 Jan 17#1
Really think this kind of TV or OLED have more real usability as they make everything look great not just sparse 4K or HDR media
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The Latest Quantum Dot Colour delivering over 1 billion colours, 64 times more colour and 2 times greater brightness than conventional UHD TVs. The Flat KS7000 SUHD TV with Quantum dot display surpasses UHD Premium standards so you can experience the next generation of professionally mastered content with 2200 PQI. KS7500 is an exceptional Quantum dot display TV with stunning depth and remarkable HDR 1000 capability for a superior range of luminance, colour and contrast.
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(I am somewhat confused)
http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8000
http://www.rlrdistribution.co.uk/viewproduct.asp?pid=18018
I have this exact model, and from 6 feet away I can easily tell the difference between the same content in HD and 4K (for example, the Grand Tour on amazon prime). Watching something in HDR, even on streaming services, there is a big difference.
Yes, if you sit 20 feet away from a 49" TV or watch crappy illegally downloaded rips, then of course it's not worth it. And no, you're obviously not going to get the same quality as a 4K HDR blurray, but the quality is still *better* than the same content in 1080. Saying it's not is ridiculous.
It's hard to buy a HDTV now, therefore all new to are 4K. This does not mean that people are buying a to for 4K. It means they have no other choice,
There isn't any evidence that 4K is catching on. Given the low quality of steams and virtually no 4K Blu-ray Discs available one must doubt any clams of a 4K revolution.
Yes I do have a very good 4K HDR tv. I use it for 4K gaming, bluray( looks stunning at upscaled 4K) and video. I don't watch live tv. And I gave up on Netflix 4K due to appalling quality of streams.
Stick with your current tv as it seems to meet your needs. Don't get fooled by the nonsense about HDR as there no readily available Content out there that actually does it justice.
Bide your time. There is a massive chance that 4K bluray will fail. BBC have no interest in 4K at present. that leaves just the substandard 4K streams.
If there is a 4K revolution out there then it's the quietest revolution in the history of the world.
https://www.mysmarttvs.co.uk/products/samsung-ue55ks7000-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-55-led-tv?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=23253668358&gclid=Cj0KEQiA5IHEBRCLr_PZvq2_6qcBEiQAL4cQ0wvXT6sqXpdJX3o3t4LszXaDrEGBbKg4FkONCVqWvRsaAsza8P8HAQ
£5.01 more for 5 year warranty here- http://www.prcdirect.co.uk/samsung-ue49ks7000-samsung-49-smart-suhd-4k-led-tv.html
you wont ever get this TV for much less, as they will discontinue it than make a loss.
There may be an improved anti-reflective coating that allows blacks to look blacker. Not sure unless I read reviews.
Unless I can't avoid it, I wouldn't buy anything big and electrical from anywhere but John Lewis or Apple.
That said, the high end Samsungs have been quite reliable I think - our F8000 is coming up to 4 years old I think, and we haven't had a single issue with it.
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.johnlewis.com
However I'd either buy from JL or R'S just for their reliable customer service
Bought mine from JL.
Samsung claim the 8000/9000 over the 7000 has darker blacks, better motion and better sound as well as "360 design"... you know, for all that time you spend looking at the back of it. However for the difference of between 400-450....seems a little steep to moi.
KS7000 vs KS8000/9000 AFAIK the only real picture difference is a higher refresh rate. I think the effect of motion processing is passable at a low level but often it looks weird. I certainly wouldn't pay extra for it, but I may be in the minority as it's frequently a 'high end' feature. To me it's a marketing department finding a minor feature so people pay extra for the same TV.
As long as you don't have any inputs that will insist on sending interlaced content and can't be forced to be progressive, there are no downsides to this set, it makes everything from SD content to 4K HDR look fantastic (as long as you calibrate away the default settings that seem to be far to bright, blue and pink). It can show fantastic contrast between black bars and bright scenes even when displaying standard dynamic range, very little blooming.
This review is completely accurate http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue49ks7000-201610234374.htm
If you just want to use it on a stand, the TV is awesome.
Still tempted but probably missed the best deals now.
I have owned the 55KS7000 for 1 week now and I cannot see the judder at all? I had major soap opera effect but reducing motion and judder compensators sorted that out.
the Judder in my opinion is a non issue only affecting very few people, Ive used all sources from XB1s, PS4, Sky HD, Netflix, Amazon Prime etc.. and never ever see it.
I have this TV in my bedroom, it's fantastic! Blows our was-top-of-the-line F8000 in the living room out of the water!