Apart from size, weight, the screen, build quality, premium materials, the hinge, the warranty...


Not much.

You're joking, right?

even model guy is laughing

Got one of these and it's going right back.
The touchpad is absolutely awful. It randomly stops responding until you remove your finger, acts as if you have 2 fingers on the touchpad instead of one so instead of moving the mouse it starts zooming in an out. Drivers don't help. In fact removing the synaptic drivers actually makes it work a bit better.
Why can't they make touchpads that work on a £1000 machine.

Search it on here spectre you'll see recently posted

It was on AO I already bought it, still showing as in stock, 10% off £959 plus get40 to get another £40 off but only worked for me on mobile.

Would you go for this Lenovo? Or would you go for this instead

HP Spectre x360 13-4126na 13.3" 2-in-1 Laptop - Ash Silver - £827 256gb ssd, i5, 8gb ram?

I've got the 710 but the fan is so loud under normal use, want to replace with this but worried it may have the same problem.

Is this the best laptop for this price range?

What are the alternatives? and how does the HP spectre compare to this?

And you've linked to the 510, not 710

My question about the Pro 4/3 is, does the kickstand actual work when using it on your lap?

Looks like better screen, better graphics, weighs less, USB-C ports, and premium build quality on the 900, better value is down to whether those kind of things are important to you.

How does this Lenovo yoga 900 compare to the Lenovo yoga 710?

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-yoga-510-14-2-in-1-black-10152553-pdt.html

which one has the better spec and is better value?

Any other suggestions welcomed. I have a budget up to £900

If I had to gues I'd say probably sprayed but mine doesnt have a single scuff and looks as good as news. If it keeps the device lighter then that's a big plus for me.

In terms of build quality it's top notch and definitely a high end device. There is no doubting it's plastic throughout although its totally hidden. Let me explain! On the outside it's (probably) sprayed alluminium so looks the part. On the insie the area outside the keyboard is (probably) plastic but has a leather/rubberised feel which is very grippy and doesnt transmit heat so remains cool. Although a wholy alluminium design might reek of quality, its heavier and hotter in practice. This device looks great on the outside, is solidly build and offers an immense number of practical benefits.

Part of me still wishes it had smaller bezels but then you'd have a shoddier webcam, crampier keyboard and smaller battery so for what its worth, if the bezels are the biggest compromise then the good still outweighs the bad for me.

I had the original Surface Pro, SP3 & SP4. I LOVED them however the hadware andsoftware issues left me wanting not to mention they were incredibly over priced unless you're happy to pay Apple prices.

This machine is a beautifully different beast. No pretentiousness, excellent build quality, great guts and at £900 from JL, excellent value for money.

The Pros as good as they are have many many problems. If I was paying £1000+ for a tablet/laptop it would have to be near damn perfect. The Pros are getting better but are anything but perfect. They are too compromised. This machine get a lot more right than the pros ever did IMO

Yes, very true, plus you have a decent webcam which the bezeless convertibles either lack or are ill placed. Big bezels are ugly but you have to decide whether your priorities are form or function.

Let's put this into perspective - remember how sexy the Macbook Air is/was? Well this machine is monumentally more powerful (core i7), much more ram (8GB), has a much bigger and faster SSD, a larger, significantly higher resolution touch sensitive screen with ports galore and thinner bezels with that has a beautiful hing that can fold into a tablet.

Those benchmarks make this a good machine to have for most people. It's certainly more than satisfactory and this price, very good value for money.

How does this compare to the surface pro 4? Thanks

This was completely tongue in cheek... almost every laptop deal that appears on here that isn't FHD gets someone complaining that the device is only HD and not FHD. This laptop has QHD which is a much higher resolution than FHD. I was being facetious hence the top hat smiley.

His point is sound. Windows scaling fixes the size issue, and only remains when in 'legacy' windows functions, like old control panel stuff, but even that can be enlarged too, it just doesn't look as neat. But resolution isn't the same thing as text size.
Higher resolution makes for better looking text when done right.

So you have a 4k, 13" monitor then ?

I disagree as well, my girlfriend has a 12" surface pro, and the screen is amazing

​Not at all, it will benefit text reading quite a bit. Windows UI scaling can be used to keep the size of things where you like them but things like text will be much crisper.
I have a 4k monitor so that above is from experience

Just different options for different buyer requirements. This Lenovo is a silly price for what it offers when there are similar / better convertibles out there for less. A watch band isn't enough to drive sales.

Cold. Not Full HD...

:man:

Desktop Kaby Lake is an absolute joke.

Laptops do see a 15% gain in CPU performance and 20% gains on the iGP/GPU. Although the iGPU is laughable compared to Intel's own Iris iGP.
Although if you want to game you're better off with a 1050/ti equipped machine.

Last one, (I think...)
How's the finish standing up? I can't stand the thought that my premium ultrabook starts looking scratched up cos I haul it about in my bag...
Is the colour 'sprayed', or fused into the case?

​OK but mine is completely silent.

Lol.. with respect, that's a completely different machine!

Also note that larger bezels make it more useable in tablet mode... Tiny bezels make accidental touches far more likely.

nice but need 4k HDMI output

I'm really torn on this one for my own use...
I told myself I was going to wait for the kaby lake refreshes, but they seem to be taking forever, and lets face it, will be substantially more expensive than these...
It's a lot of machine for the money...

Pretty good...

In the flesh these look very dated to me. There is a wide border round the edge of the screen making the machine much bigger than it needs to be. Side by side with a latitude 7370 or an xps 13 it's just chunky. Apparently there is a new xps 13 out with the 360 degree hinge.

This machine is also *totally* silent during web browsing, movies, music, streaming, office. The fans only turn up during video encoding and photo editing. I do that occasionally but 99% of the time it's silent.

The colour is enough to put me off, otherwise good deal

I have a Yoga 2 Pro and I've had no end of trouble with it. Went back first time because of a faulty keyboard and it took ages to get it returned. I've been trying to avoid sending it back again because of this but now I've got to send it back for broken wireless, over heating, and a dodgy clickpad. Wish I'd got a Thinkpad.

No. Only the USB2.0/charge port.

Having said that, the macbook USB C adaptor I have works great as a port multiplier



I got mine in silver for around £20 on ebay and now have 3 more USB 3.0 ports, micro SD and another USB C port!

The keyboard is nice and key travel is a cross between a macbook air and new mac book.Once you get used to typing on the low travel keys its great. Im not the fastest typer so my skills are a weaker link than the keyboard itself.

Battery will surely last a day. The screen in almost 4k and it has an i7 CPU with 8GB ram so all of those draw a lot of power. The 1080p i5 version lasts a smidge longer but on balance this is a superior, more future proof machine. I could easily get 7hrs out of this machine.

There are machines that last longer but if you want near 4K resolution and i7 power that is feather light with gorgeous screen hinge with plenty of ports then this is for you. None of the compromises effected me a jot so for me at least this is the best machine on the market. My only gripe is that the bezzels are wide but it means a bigger base, better keyboard and bigger battery so on balance its something i can live with.

Never knew about that, really poor.

Coil whine on a premium product is pretty shocking.

Once you notice it, it will drive you insane.

The x360 is OOS now but it was in the other Spectre thread on here.

If you're not bothered by an M7 and don't mind a laptop as opposed to convertible, the 12.5" HP G1 is QHD and can be had for £650.

Where is the x360 with i7 8/256 and qhd for £800?

Yoga 910 v HP Spectre x360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H9XUNjQLEk

Worth noting as you get the x360 for ~ £800.

It's already out. Looks superb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcQ6F2c8WJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8javvfHSppI

Coil whine has nothing to do with a fan.

XPS Coil Whine

I will post this information on every Dell thread and at any mention of an XPS machine to stop anyone else unknowingly falling into the same trap as I did.

I can back that up, I just returned the new inspiron 15 7560. The coil whine is similar to a geforce graphics card

​Mine is fanless unlike this model and its completely silent.

Purchased 710 Silver one from John Lewis 2 days ago for £599 and could n't be more happier. excellent build quality and screen is so much better then other full hd laptops I've used, battery life lasts whole day average 9 to 10 hour usage. Overall very good value for money.

The XPS range also suffers from serious coil whine and is something Dell has refused to fix for years.
I could hear it from around 3ft away and I found it so bad it sold my machine as it made it unusable to me.

Bought the PCWorld offer of Yoga 510 before Christmas for £350. It's i3, but upgraded RAM from 4GB to 16GB for £90 and installed 512GB SSD had lying around. Fantastic machine, very sturdy. This one is i7 and QHD screen. Probably would have gone for this one if I didn't have the 510 already.

I got this with the i5 on Black Friday for 699.95. The i7 was the same price as now at the time but had 3 year guarantee rather than the two currently on offer. Still a good deal. The laptop has a great screen and the speakers are impressive for a laptop so slim.

Keyboard is excellent, really nice to type on, has moulded keys rather than painted and the back lighting works well.
Real battery life can take me through a whole day of work easily (lots of chrome tabs, different office applications, usually always more than 5 programs open). I'd say if you're using it for leisure then the battery life should easily last close to the 9 hour estimate. Videos look good on this laptop and the clarity of the screen is awesome.

No unfortunately it can't.

Battery life: Up to 9 hours
Bluetooth Enabled: Yes
Brand: Lenovo
Camera (front-facing): 720p HD camera
Camera (rear-facing): No
CD/DVD/Blu-ray Drive: No
Computer Support Helpline: Free 90 day computer support
Dimensions: H1.5 x W32.4 x D22.5cm
Graphics card: Intel HD graphics
Graphics card type: Shared
Hard drive: 256GB SSD
Keyboard: AccuType keyboard
Memory (RAM): 8GB
Memory Card Slots: 4-in-1 (SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC) card reader
Model name / number: 80MK0047UK
NFC enabled: No
Operating system: Windows 10 (64 bit)
Ports: 1x USB-C, 1x USB-C, 2x USB 3.0, 1x DC IN interface can work as USB2.0 ,1x 4-in-1 card reader, 1x audio combo jack
Processor: Dual-Core Intel Core i7-6500U
Processor speed: 2.5GHz to 3.1GHz with Turbo Boost
Range: YOGA 900
Screen finish: Gloss
Screen Resolution: 3200 x 1800 pixels
Screen size: 13.3"
Screen Type: QHD+ with 10 point multi-touch
Touch Screen: Yes
Trackpad: Yes
Voice Recognition: Intel Voice Assistant
Weight: 1.3kg
Wireless Display: Intel WiDi Wireless networking Wi-Fi- 802.11ac

Lenovo fans tend to be much quieter than Apple ones......:stuck_out_tongue:

I have this device myself if anyone has any questions. I use it mainly in fold up mode with the keyboard folded back as a stand and effectively a fancy tablet. I really couldnt be happier with it. It's a great device for someone who likes the convenience of a tablet but the functionality of a laptop.

decent but I think this is a slightly better deal http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-yoga-510-14-2-in-1-black-10146249-pdt.html

good price

Was looking at one in JL before Christmas, but was put off by £1200 price tag.,.. If it was this price then, I'd have snapped their hand off...
And the colour is quite nice in real life...


Mind you, I like the orange too...

Apart from size, weight, the screen, build quality, premium materials, the hinge, the warranty...


Not much.

​whats better about the 900?

Have some heat as that is a great price.

Personally I dont like the colour, I'm waiting for the 710 to come back into stock. The YOGA's are great machines.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-yoga-710-convertible-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-14-full-hd-silver-2584745

It's actually cheaper than the current i5 model...