Top end Lenovo 2in1 convertible laptop, 13" QHD Screen, with good specs, and i7 processor.
Was 1200, now £300 off, and 2 year John Lewis Warranty too...
Blurb below, but looks a proper bargain to me, a lot of computer for the money.
Yes,. I know there are cheaper for the specs, but this is a top of the line ultrabook, not 2 inch thick argos or medion special.
[blurb]
Lenovo's Yoga 900 is designed to adapt to your needs to let you easily turn it from a laptop to a tablet for maximum enjoyment. Perfect for watching movies, editing photos or word processing to make work and play a doddle. Its lightweight, ultra thin build means you can carrying with you every day, whether you're heading to the office or on your holiday. Loaded with Windows 10 Home, Intel® Core™ i7, multiple USB ports and HDMI for connecting a variety of devices - from printers to cameras and phone chargers.
[blurb]
Top comments
bilbob
4 Jan 179#7
Apart from size, weight, the screen, build quality, premium materials, the hinge, the warranty...
Not much.
bilbob to callumm133
4 Jan 176#4
You're joking, right?
rodman to callumm133
4 Jan 174#14
even model guy is laughing
All comments (76)
bilbob
4 Jan 17#1
It's actually cheaper than the current i5 model...
poison3k
4 Jan 17#2
Have some heat as that is a great price.
Personally I dont like the colour, I'm waiting for the 710 to come back into stock. The YOGA's are great machines.
Apart from size, weight, the screen, build quality, premium materials, the hinge, the warranty...
Not much.
zakkyb
4 Jan 17#8
The colour is enough to put me off, otherwise good deal
K1LLER HORNET to zakkyb
4 Jan 17#9
Has Lenovo fixed the fan speed/noise issue?
It's so bad that they don't include a photo specifically from the back of the device :stuck_out_tongue:
FrugalFergal to zakkyb
4 Jan 17#42
I have the run of the mill silver but clementine is quite fabulous. You have to see it in the flesh to fully appreciate it. It's no worse and arguably a lot better than Apple's rose gold
bilbob
4 Jan 171#10
Was looking at one in JL before Christmas, but was put off by £1200 price tag.,.. If it was this price then, I'd have snapped their hand off...
And the colour is quite nice in real life...
Mind you, I like the orange too...
bestbuy123
4 Jan 17#11
good price
bilbob
4 Jan 171#12
I'm really torn on this one for my own use...
I told myself I was going to wait for the kaby lake refreshes, but they seem to be taking forever, and lets face it, will be substantially more expensive than these...
It's a lot of machine for the money...
FrugalFergal to bilbob
4 Jan 171#46
Just buy this. Kaby Lake is just a scam. Intel processors havent had meaningful improvements in the last 5 yrs despite rising prices.
FrugalFergal
4 Jan 172#13
I have this device myself if anyone has any questions. I use it mainly in fold up mode with the keyboard folded back as a stand and effectively a fancy tablet. I really couldnt be happier with it. It's a great device for someone who likes the convenience of a tablet but the functionality of a laptop.
bilbob to FrugalFergal
4 Jan 17#15
This would be my main work/leisure machine...
How do you find the keyboard?
What's the real batter life like? Will it last a day?
bilbob to FrugalFergal
4 Jan 171#17
And can it charge via the USB C socket???!
adamski88 to FrugalFergal
4 Jan 17#18
Does the track pad work accurately? I went into Currys to look at the 510 due to the deal posted and the track pad was all over the place!
pathanuk
4 Jan 17#16
Purchased 710 Silver one from John Lewis 2 days ago for £599 and could n't be more happier. excellent build quality and screen is so much better then other full hd laptops I've used, battery life lasts whole day average 9 to 10 hour usage. Overall very good value for money.
gooeynote to pathanuk
4 Jan 17#19
Have you got the noisy fan issue with this model?
skura786 to pathanuk
4 Jan 17#30
do you have any screen bleeding issues?
afroylnt
4 Jan 172#20
Lenovo fans tend to be much quieter than Apple ones......:stuck_out_tongue:
mubashar
4 Jan 171#21
Battery life: Up to 9 hours
Bluetooth Enabled: Yes
Brand: Lenovo
Camera (front-facing): 720p HD camera
Camera (rear-facing): No
CD/DVD/Blu-ray Drive: No
Computer Support Helpline: Free 90 day computer support
Dimensions: H1.5 x W32.4 x D22.5cm
Graphics card: Intel HD graphics
Graphics card type: Shared
Hard drive: 256GB SSD
Keyboard: AccuType keyboard
Memory (RAM): 8GB
Memory Card Slots: 4-in-1 (SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC) card reader
Model name / number: 80MK0047UK
NFC enabled: No
Operating system: Windows 10 (64 bit)
Ports: 1x USB-C, 1x USB-C, 2x USB 3.0, 1x DC IN interface can work as USB2.0 ,1x 4-in-1 card reader, 1x audio combo jack
Processor: Dual-Core Intel Core i7-6500U
Processor speed: 2.5GHz to 3.1GHz with Turbo Boost
Range: YOGA 900
Screen finish: Gloss
Screen Resolution: 3200 x 1800 pixels
Screen size: 13.3"
Screen Type: QHD+ with 10 point multi-touch
Touch Screen: Yes
Trackpad: Yes
Voice Recognition: Intel Voice Assistant
Weight: 1.3kg
Wireless Display: Intel WiDi Wireless networking Wi-Fi- 802.11ac
mitalm
4 Jan 171#22
No unfortunately it can't.
mitalm
4 Jan 171#23
Keyboard is excellent, really nice to type on, has moulded keys rather than painted and the back lighting works well.
Real battery life can take me through a whole day of work easily (lots of chrome tabs, different office applications, usually always more than 5 programs open). I'd say if you're using it for leisure then the battery life should easily last close to the 9 hour estimate. Videos look good on this laptop and the clarity of the screen is awesome.
lazyboy
4 Jan 171#24
In the flesh these look very dated to me. There is a wide border round the edge of the screen making the machine much bigger than it needs to be. Side by side with a latitude 7370 or an xps 13 it's just chunky. Apparently there is a new xps 13 out with the 360 degree hinge.
bilbob to lazyboy
4 Jan 171#26
There is, but the reason the xps manages to get by on a small border is because they put the webcam is an utterly stupid position. That is the sole reason I'm not considering the dell.
FrugalFergal to lazyboy
4 Jan 17#44
I do agree the borders are big. It's my single hate. However it affords it a much more comfortable keyboard and bigger battery to power the near 4k screen resolutions so I think the big bezels hide quite clever engineering decisions and I for one and happy with the 7-10hr battery life I get as apposed to the compromises I'd have to make for a sexy bezeless design.
yehehehes
4 Jan 17#25
I got this with the i5 on Black Friday for 699.95. The i7 was the same price as now at the time but had 3 year guarantee rather than the two currently on offer. Still a good deal. The laptop has a great screen and the speakers are impressive for a laptop so slim.
arvydasj
4 Jan 171#27
Bought the PCWorld offer of Yoga 510 before Christmas for £350. It's i3, but upgraded RAM from 4GB to 16GB for £90 and installed 512GB SSD had lying around. Fantastic machine, very sturdy. This one is i7 and QHD screen. Probably would have gone for this one if I didn't have the 510 already.
K1LLER HORNET
4 Jan 17#28
The XPS range also suffers from serious coil whine and is something Dell has refused to fix for years.
I could hear it from around 3ft away and I found it so bad it sold my machine as it made it unusable to me.
AndrewHu
4 Jan 17#29
I have a Yoga 2 Pro and I've had no end of trouble with it. Went back first time because of a faulty keyboard and it took ages to get it returned. I've been trying to avoid sending it back again because of this but now I've got to send it back for broken wireless, over heating, and a dodgy clickpad. Wish I'd got a Thinkpad.
FrugalFergal to AndrewHu
4 Jan 17#41
I had an issue when the USB power port failed. I rang lenovo and they bent over backards to help (that might be a sign this is a bigger problem theyre trying to bury) and they took the machine back for a full service , extended the warranty a few months and it works as well as possible.
None of the Yoga 2 problems you mentioned came into play thank goodness. I would still say Lenovo on balance make great products and at the very least their service is an Apple-approaching 5 star from me.
lazyboy
4 Jan 17#31
Mine is fanless unlike this model and its completely silent.
edd13
4 Jan 17#32
I can back that up, I just returned the new inspiron 15 7560. The coil whine is similar to a geforce graphics card
I will post this information on every Dell thread and at any mention of an XPS machine to stop anyone else unknowingly falling into the same trap as I did.
The x360 is OOS now but it was in the other Spectre thread on here.
If you're not bothered by an M7 and don't mind a laptop as opposed to convertible, the 12.5" HP G1 is QHD and can be had for £650.
callum84
4 Jan 171#38
Never knew about that, really poor.
Coil whine on a premium product is pretty shocking.
Once you notice it, it will drive you insane.
FrugalFergal
4 Jan 17#39
The keyboard is nice and key travel is a cross between a macbook air and new mac book.Once you get used to typing on the low travel keys its great. Im not the fastest typer so my skills are a weaker link than the keyboard itself.
Battery will surely last a day. The screen in almost 4k and it has an i7 CPU with 8GB ram so all of those draw a lot of power. The 1080p i5 version lasts a smidge longer but on balance this is a superior, more future proof machine. I could easily get 7hrs out of this machine.
There are machines that last longer but if you want near 4K resolution and i7 power that is feather light with gorgeous screen hinge with plenty of ports then this is for you. None of the compromises effected me a jot so for me at least this is the best machine on the market. My only gripe is that the bezzels are wide but it means a bigger base, better keyboard and bigger battery so on balance its something i can live with.
FrugalFergal
4 Jan 17#40
No. Only the USB2.0/charge port.
Having said that, the macbook USB C adaptor I have works great as a port multiplier
I got mine in silver for around £20 on ebay and now have 3 more USB 3.0 ports, micro SD and another USB C port!
FrugalFergal
4 Jan 171#43
This machine is also *totally* silent during web browsing, movies, music, streaming, office. The fans only turn up during video encoding and photo editing. I do that occasionally but 99% of the time it's silent.
neal
4 Jan 171#45
Pretty good...
mafj
4 Jan 17#47
nice but need 4k HDMI output
bilbob
4 Jan 171#48
Also note that larger bezels make it more useable in tablet mode... Tiny bezels make accidental touches far more likely.
bilbob
4 Jan 171#49
Lol.. with respect, that's a completely different machine!
lazyboy
4 Jan 17#50
OK but mine is completely silent.
bilbob
4 Jan 17#51
Last one, (I think...)
How's the finish standing up? I can't stand the thought that my premium ultrabook starts looking scratched up cos I haul it about in my bag...
Is the colour 'sprayed', or fused into the case?
K1LLER HORNET
4 Jan 17#52
Desktop Kaby Lake is an absolute joke.
Laptops do see a 15% gain in CPU performance and 20% gains on the iGP/GPU. Although the iGPU is laughable compared to Intel's own Iris iGP.
Although if you want to game you're better off with a 1050/ti equipped machine.
matdey
4 Jan 17#53
Cold. Not Full HD...
:man:
dozstanford to matdey
4 Jan 171#54
Not quite sure if this is sarcasm but I've been in two minds whether to buy this or not and the fact is if it were actually worse (FHD rather than QHD) I would have already bought it. QHD is nice an all for gaming and movies on a 17", maybe 15" devices at a push but on a 13" screen doing "normal" stuff with such a resolution requires a magnifying glass.
Picard123
4 Jan 171#55
Just different options for different buyer requirements. This Lenovo is a silly price for what it offers when there are similar / better convertibles out there for less. A watch band isn't enough to drive sales.
Traldera
4 Jan 17#56
Not at all, it will benefit text reading quite a bit. Windows UI scaling can be used to keep the size of things where you like them but things like text will be much crisper.
I have a 4k monitor so that above is from experience
adamski88
5 Jan 17#57
I disagree as well, my girlfriend has a 12" surface pro, and the screen is amazing
dozstanford
5 Jan 17#58
So you have a 4k, 13" monitor then ?
bilbob
5 Jan 17#59
His point is sound. Windows scaling fixes the size issue, and only remains when in 'legacy' windows functions, like old control panel stuff, but even that can be enlarged too, it just doesn't look as neat. But resolution isn't the same thing as text size.
Higher resolution makes for better looking text when done right.
matdey
5 Jan 17#60
This was completely tongue in cheek... almost every laptop deal that appears on here that isn't FHD gets someone complaining that the device is only HD and not FHD. This laptop has QHD which is a much higher resolution than FHD. I was being facetious hence the top hat smiley.
dombards
5 Jan 17#61
How does this compare to the surface pro 4? Thanks
blammo to dombards
5 Jan 17#62
This is a laptop, the other is a tablet/laptop hybrid
FrugalFergal
5 Jan 17#63
Yes, very true, plus you have a decent webcam which the bezeless convertibles either lack or are ill placed. Big bezels are ugly but you have to decide whether your priorities are form or function.
Let's put this into perspective - remember how sexy the Macbook Air is/was? Well this machine is monumentally more powerful (core i7), much more ram (8GB), has a much bigger and faster SSD, a larger, significantly higher resolution touch sensitive screen with ports galore and thinner bezels with that has a beautiful hing that can fold into a tablet.
Those benchmarks make this a good machine to have for most people. It's certainly more than satisfactory and this price, very good value for money.
FrugalFergal
5 Jan 17#64
I had the original Surface Pro, SP3 & SP4. I LOVED them however the hadware andsoftware issues left me wanting not to mention they were incredibly over priced unless you're happy to pay Apple prices.
This machine is a beautifully different beast. No pretentiousness, excellent build quality, great guts and at £900 from JL, excellent value for money.
The Pros as good as they are have many many problems. If I was paying £1000+ for a tablet/laptop it would have to be near damn perfect. The Pros are getting better but are anything but perfect. They are too compromised. This machine get a lot more right than the pros ever did IMO
FrugalFergal
5 Jan 17#65
If I had to gues I'd say probably sprayed but mine doesnt have a single scuff and looks as good as news. If it keeps the device lighter then that's a big plus for me.
In terms of build quality it's top notch and definitely a high end device. There is no doubting it's plastic throughout although its totally hidden. Let me explain! On the outside it's (probably) sprayed alluminium so looks the part. On the insie the area outside the keyboard is (probably) plastic but has a leather/rubberised feel which is very grippy and doesnt transmit heat so remains cool. Although a wholy alluminium design might reek of quality, its heavier and hotter in practice. This device looks great on the outside, is solidly build and offers an immense number of practical benefits.
Part of me still wishes it had smaller bezels but then you'd have a shoddier webcam, crampier keyboard and smaller battery so for what its worth, if the bezels are the biggest compromise then the good still outweighs the bad for me.
Edward1276
6 Jan 17#66
How does this Lenovo yoga 900 compare to the Lenovo yoga 710?
which one has the better spec and is better value?
Any other suggestions welcomed. I have a budget up to £900
blammo
6 Jan 17#67
Looks like better screen, better graphics, weighs less, USB-C ports, and premium build quality on the 900, better value is down to whether those kind of things are important to you.
blammo
6 Jan 17#68
My question about the Pro 4/3 is, does the kickstand actual work when using it on your lap?
bilbob
6 Jan 17#69
And you've linked to the 510, not 710
Mike555
6 Jan 17#70
Is this the best laptop for this price range?
What are the alternatives? and how does the HP spectre compare to this?
fazzx
7 Jan 17#71
I've got the 710 but the fan is so loud under normal use, want to replace with this but worried it may have the same problem.
aaran7
7 Jan 17#72
Would you go for this Lenovo? Or would you go for this instead
It was on AO I already bought it, still showing as in stock, 10% off £959 plus get40 to get another £40 off but only worked for me on mobile.
aaran7
7 Jan 17#75
Search it on here spectre you'll see recently posted
Keldin
10 Jan 17#76
Got one of these and it's going right back.
The touchpad is absolutely awful. It randomly stops responding until you remove your finger, acts as if you have 2 fingers on the touchpad instead of one so instead of moving the mouse it starts zooming in an out. Drivers don't help. In fact removing the synaptic drivers actually makes it work a bit better.
Why can't they make touchpads that work on a £1000 machine.
Opening post
Was 1200, now £300 off, and 2 year John Lewis Warranty too...
Blurb below, but looks a proper bargain to me, a lot of computer for the money.
Yes,. I know there are cheaper for the specs, but this is a top of the line ultrabook, not 2 inch thick argos or medion special.
[blurb]
Lenovo's Yoga 900 is designed to adapt to your needs to let you easily turn it from a laptop to a tablet for maximum enjoyment. Perfect for watching movies, editing photos or word processing to make work and play a doddle. Its lightweight, ultra thin build means you can carrying with you every day, whether you're heading to the office or on your holiday. Loaded with Windows 10 Home, Intel® Core™ i7, multiple USB ports and HDMI for connecting a variety of devices - from printers to cameras and phone chargers.
[blurb]
Top comments
Not much.
All comments (76)
Personally I dont like the colour, I'm waiting for the 710 to come back into stock. The YOGA's are great machines.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-yoga-710-convertible-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-14-full-hd-silver-2584745
Not much.
It's so bad that they don't include a photo specifically from the back of the device :stuck_out_tongue:
And the colour is quite nice in real life...
Mind you, I like the orange too...
I told myself I was going to wait for the kaby lake refreshes, but they seem to be taking forever, and lets face it, will be substantially more expensive than these...
It's a lot of machine for the money...
How do you find the keyboard?
What's the real batter life like? Will it last a day?
Bluetooth Enabled: Yes
Brand: Lenovo
Camera (front-facing): 720p HD camera
Camera (rear-facing): No
CD/DVD/Blu-ray Drive: No
Computer Support Helpline: Free 90 day computer support
Dimensions: H1.5 x W32.4 x D22.5cm
Graphics card: Intel HD graphics
Graphics card type: Shared
Hard drive: 256GB SSD
Keyboard: AccuType keyboard
Memory (RAM): 8GB
Memory Card Slots: 4-in-1 (SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC) card reader
Model name / number: 80MK0047UK
NFC enabled: No
Operating system: Windows 10 (64 bit)
Ports: 1x USB-C, 1x USB-C, 2x USB 3.0, 1x DC IN interface can work as USB2.0 ,1x 4-in-1 card reader, 1x audio combo jack
Processor: Dual-Core Intel Core i7-6500U
Processor speed: 2.5GHz to 3.1GHz with Turbo Boost
Range: YOGA 900
Screen finish: Gloss
Screen Resolution: 3200 x 1800 pixels
Screen size: 13.3"
Screen Type: QHD+ with 10 point multi-touch
Touch Screen: Yes
Trackpad: Yes
Voice Recognition: Intel Voice Assistant
Weight: 1.3kg
Wireless Display: Intel WiDi Wireless networking Wi-Fi- 802.11ac
Real battery life can take me through a whole day of work easily (lots of chrome tabs, different office applications, usually always more than 5 programs open). I'd say if you're using it for leisure then the battery life should easily last close to the 9 hour estimate. Videos look good on this laptop and the clarity of the screen is awesome.
I could hear it from around 3ft away and I found it so bad it sold my machine as it made it unusable to me.
None of the Yoga 2 problems you mentioned came into play thank goodness. I would still say Lenovo on balance make great products and at the very least their service is an Apple-approaching 5 star from me.
XPS Coil Whine
I will post this information on every Dell thread and at any mention of an XPS machine to stop anyone else unknowingly falling into the same trap as I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcQ6F2c8WJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8javvfHSppI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H9XUNjQLEk
Worth noting as you get the x360 for ~ £800.
If you're not bothered by an M7 and don't mind a laptop as opposed to convertible, the 12.5" HP G1 is QHD and can be had for £650.
Coil whine on a premium product is pretty shocking.
Once you notice it, it will drive you insane.
Battery will surely last a day. The screen in almost 4k and it has an i7 CPU with 8GB ram so all of those draw a lot of power. The 1080p i5 version lasts a smidge longer but on balance this is a superior, more future proof machine. I could easily get 7hrs out of this machine.
There are machines that last longer but if you want near 4K resolution and i7 power that is feather light with gorgeous screen hinge with plenty of ports then this is for you. None of the compromises effected me a jot so for me at least this is the best machine on the market. My only gripe is that the bezzels are wide but it means a bigger base, better keyboard and bigger battery so on balance its something i can live with.
Having said that, the macbook USB C adaptor I have works great as a port multiplier
I got mine in silver for around £20 on ebay and now have 3 more USB 3.0 ports, micro SD and another USB C port!
How's the finish standing up? I can't stand the thought that my premium ultrabook starts looking scratched up cos I haul it about in my bag...
Is the colour 'sprayed', or fused into the case?
Laptops do see a 15% gain in CPU performance and 20% gains on the iGP/GPU. Although the iGPU is laughable compared to Intel's own Iris iGP.
Although if you want to game you're better off with a 1050/ti equipped machine.
:man:
I have a 4k monitor so that above is from experience
Higher resolution makes for better looking text when done right.
Let's put this into perspective - remember how sexy the Macbook Air is/was? Well this machine is monumentally more powerful (core i7), much more ram (8GB), has a much bigger and faster SSD, a larger, significantly higher resolution touch sensitive screen with ports galore and thinner bezels with that has a beautiful hing that can fold into a tablet.
Those benchmarks make this a good machine to have for most people. It's certainly more than satisfactory and this price, very good value for money.
This machine is a beautifully different beast. No pretentiousness, excellent build quality, great guts and at £900 from JL, excellent value for money.
The Pros as good as they are have many many problems. If I was paying £1000+ for a tablet/laptop it would have to be near damn perfect. The Pros are getting better but are anything but perfect. They are too compromised. This machine get a lot more right than the pros ever did IMO
In terms of build quality it's top notch and definitely a high end device. There is no doubting it's plastic throughout although its totally hidden. Let me explain! On the outside it's (probably) sprayed alluminium so looks the part. On the insie the area outside the keyboard is (probably) plastic but has a leather/rubberised feel which is very grippy and doesnt transmit heat so remains cool. Although a wholy alluminium design might reek of quality, its heavier and hotter in practice. This device looks great on the outside, is solidly build and offers an immense number of practical benefits.
Part of me still wishes it had smaller bezels but then you'd have a shoddier webcam, crampier keyboard and smaller battery so for what its worth, if the bezels are the biggest compromise then the good still outweighs the bad for me.
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-yoga-510-14-2-in-1-black-10152553-pdt.html
which one has the better spec and is better value?
Any other suggestions welcomed. I have a budget up to £900
What are the alternatives? and how does the HP spectre compare to this?
HP Spectre x360 13-4126na 13.3" 2-in-1 Laptop - Ash Silver - £827 256gb ssd, i5, 8gb ram?
The touchpad is absolutely awful. It randomly stops responding until you remove your finger, acts as if you have 2 fingers on the touchpad instead of one so instead of moving the mouse it starts zooming in an out. Drivers don't help. In fact removing the synaptic drivers actually makes it work a bit better.
Why can't they make touchpads that work on a £1000 machine.