If you are in the loop to buy a new new cpu/mobo - and can wait, wait till amd ryzen comes out..

Yeah, by about a quid.

AMD has thrown all their eggs in one basket with these new processors and GPU's, they won't be sold at budget prices. The PC enthusiast market will always be ripped off.

My guess is they'll be almost like-for-like in price. The motherboards will probably be more as well....

I see it time and time again here, "wait for xxx to come out! prices will drop!". I remember folk here holding out for the 1070 and 1080 to come out thinking the 980Ti would come down to £280 or so... in reality the 980Ti pretty much stayed the same price :laughing: Out of frustration pretty much all the 1070/1080 and 980Ti deals got voted freezing here for weeks on end. I imagine the same will happen to the Ryzen hardware as well.

Until some independant benchmarks appear, Ryzen is not a "game changer"!

I'm not being a fanboi but saying (sensibly) if you can wait and not do a new build this week, it might be worthwhile

The headline says its an i5 but the description on the site says its an i7. :-\

If you are in the loop to buy a new new cpu/mobo - and can wait, wait till amd ryzen comes out..

I wish I could find this kind of deal for the Asus Strix Z270G motherboard! (mATX)

*Looks at site*

There is one, but it's with the i7 7700K CPU clocked to 4.80GHz, and £732.79! :disappointed:

How will all this fit in a corsair carbide 300r?

What's the difference? There's another bundle too with a Asus Maximus IX Hero Z270 mobo.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-approved-elite-tier-kabylake-bundle-intel-i7-7700k-4.80ghz-bu-006-8p.html

Not sure what to go for..

mATX (244mm x 244mm) is a smaller size than a standard motherboard (305 × 244 mm).
The main difference is fewer PCIe slots (max 4 vs max 7).

MiniITX (170mm x 170mm) is smaller again, and generally has only 1 PCIe, and only 2 RAM slots.



Note: Old wikipedia pic shows old motherboards, but sizes still relevant.

Ooh I see, that's really helpful thank you dude

Yeah, by about a quid.

AMD has thrown all their eggs in one basket with these new processors and GPU's, they won't be sold at budget prices. The PC enthusiast market will always be ripped off.

My guess is they'll be almost like-for-like in price. The motherboards will probably be more as well....

I see it time and time again here, "wait for xxx to come out! prices will drop!". I remember folk here holding out for the 1070 and 1080 to come out thinking the 980Ti would come down to £280 or so... in reality the 980Ti pretty much stayed the same price :laughing: Out of frustration pretty much all the 1070/1080 and 980Ti deals got voted freezing here for weeks on end. I imagine the same will happen to the Ryzen hardware as well.

Hi.

Found a similar bundle deal in Amazon. Unless it's the same but with the correct description?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-COMPONENT-BUNDLE-Motherboard-productivity/dp/B01NCSWDS1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483980077&sr=8-1&keywords=Asus+Strix+Z270F+Gaming

is this much of a deal?

Q1, (likely to be feb) ..

High end ryzen sr7 black edition 8core/16 thread 3.6ghz base 4ghz turbo, rumoured to be $499
standard sr7 probably lower clocks rumoured to be $350

sr5, likely to be either 6c/12t or 4c/8t
sr3 likely to be either 4c/8t or 2c/4t

Lower prices than intel, and as for performance the top end sr7 (at 3.4ghz) matched or bettered the i7-6900k

So if you can wait a month or so you have a better choice

So no and no then with added speculation. AMD fanboi in da house :stuck_out_tongue:

+ 8pack tax for binning chip

says the intel fanboy:p

How did your wrongly deduce that Sherlock? Please feel free to cite my pro-Intel agenda.

haha class:D

I'm not being a fanboi but saying (sensibly) if you can wait and not do a new build this week, it might be worthwhile

Silly. You can get half that speed and RAM for 1/10th money.

But I'm sure people who buy this need as much compute power as they can get.

sadly the fanboys(or sheep as i call them) will always jump in if anyone explains the obvious. goes for both sides. must be such a dull life being one dimensional( ie fanboy):smile:

Surely if you are willing to spend this much on a gaming PC you can wait for Ryzen? even if you agree with the assumptions of some people here about prices not changing much, why not just wait?

That's a lie. The 980 Ti price (avg. 3rd party OC prices here) dropped from £500-600 to £350 when the GTX 10 series came out. I'd know as I bought a Ti system in April and buyers remorse kicked in :laughing: The price drop didn't last long though as they all sold out which skyrocketed prices back to £500 due to discontinued rare stock.

Admittedly I was wrong about it never dropping (forgot the brief two week period when they did), but people were still voting them deals cold a lot of the time, though. They were annoyed it was at still the same price level as the 1070. Lots were expecting, and holding out for them to come to around ~£270.

My point is I wish people would stop 'holding out' for new things to come out. More often than not it ends in disappointment. Admittedly at this point people may as well wait to see what happens with Ryzen, but I personally just bite the bullet when I get the itch to upgrade!

Post-brexit result I just think PC hardware prices are going to go up and up - seeing the continued price rise of SSD's in 2 months is just depressing. I will be amazed if the Ryzen chips massively compete price-wise with Intel.

Ocuk really are strutting their stuff.

It's good to see a company aim at the enthusiast market but still staying within the general market..

Bravo

I don't get it?

I got an asus z170 itx pro gaming motherboard for 92
And i7 6700 for 200 with aftermarket cooler for 25
And 16gb ddr4-2400 (2x8gb) for 60
In March
£377 total

Caveat:
Cpu is non k so I have to oc using bclk, but my system runs quiet and cool - between 33c to 40c.

What am I missing

SSD price increases are due to NAND flash shortages, not brexit..

Nand shortage and brexit causing the pound to drop. Please accept that prices have and will continue to go up due to brexit..

I would normally agree with you over not "holding out" but ryzen is a game changer and for a month's wait it is worth waiting out.

As for the prices of ryzen: the top end sr7 will be a very good buy compared to the i7-6900k, the lower end ones may only be be £25 to £50 cheaper, lets wait and see. Even if you end up buying a 6900k, i'd still say wait for ryzen so that the i7 actually drops in price.. That is not being an amd fanboi but saying something which is common sense.

Until some independant benchmarks appear, Ryzen is not a "game changer"!

I want to see more benchmarks tbh. The blender benchmark is now a given as amd released the file. How it compares on final launch silcon is now what i want to know. But i want to see how it does in cinebench..

That's very true, and I hope companies don't use it as a scapegoat to give us brits and even worse deal compared to those in the US.
The GTX 1070 and 980 Ti similar price point is hugely warranted though. I've got a 980 Ti Waterforce and it kicks every single 1070's ass in benchmarks. I haven't seen a single 1070 card that has benched higher numbers than my card, even though they supposedly have newer and more advanced tech.
You're right about people holding out though. Wouldn't have got my card had I not conceded my wallet in April - it was OOS everywhere shortly after - right up until it was discontinued.
In any case, do people really think that supposedly better benchmarked CPUs and GPUs than their Intel rival chips will be that much cheaper?

Not being an Intel fanboy either but when have they ever been the underdogs? As soon as AMD catch up, Intel move on to the next level.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11031/amd-set-to-launch-ryzen-before-march-3rd-meeting-q1-target

feb 27th to march 3rd 2017 :smile:

Still speculation, no official statement.

​Is the new amd ryzen not going to be 14nm where as Intel, as you already stated, are on 14nm & looking to move onto 10nm.

That seems to me like Intel are one step ahead especially with the view that the Amd ryzen isn't even released yet

The i7 isn't necessary for gaming. It's a waste of money.

This is just not true, an OC i7 7600k @ 4.8 Ghz beat's an OC i5 7600k 4.8G hz hands down by over 30 FPS in some benched games. No contest but whether it's worth the extra £ is purely down to your own budget.

Core i7 7700K vs Core i5 7600K Stock/4.8GHz Gaming Benchmarks

The leaked AMD Ryzen bench didn't look good either.
Ryzen Leaked Benchmark

Another source - 34% better performance from i7 over i5

Core i7 7700K Review: Extreme Gaming CPU Power