So...I've been looking for a good, not massive, 4K telly for my new PS Pro.
I missed out on the deal from Argos and saw today's deal at Tesco (£588) that had gone hot and was due to bite. One quick search later and found the same telly at Co-Op electrical with a 5 year guarantee and with 50 quid off = £549.99 (there is a £4.99 delivery charge on top)
Going through Topcashback gives 4% off that making it £528 +delivery once it's been paid. (4% cashback ends in 5 days)
If you don't want to go through TCB the code you need at the Co-Op checkout is CPTV50
That's £56 quid cheaper for me, than the Tesco deal and includes the 5 year guarantee, if that doesn't make this deal hot, I don't know what is :smiley:
By the way, this deal is for the black one, the silver is 20 quid more and the larger 49" is £584.98 after cashback
And I'm also none the wiser whether it's 8 bit, 10 bit or 8+2 bit either, but reviews seem positive
I got the tele just before black Friday from Argos for £500. Great set and fantastic with my xbox one s. Haven't notice one bit of lag or motion blur which is common in the Samsung on CoD, Battlefield or Fifa.
My xbox recognises it as a 10 bit tele and so does my sky q but think it's a 8 + 2.
You won't get a better tele without having to spend another £200 on top. That's a fact. especially when it comes to gaming. The fps are very low when put on the game setting though the tv.
It's a VA panel as well so has sharp contrasts but the one downfall is tge colour does start to fade when at a big angle but nothing major.
I've played about with the calibration setting but the setting out of the box are fantastic.
I have noticed I need to HDR on when watching ultra HD films on sky q. It does make the picture even better, but only really beneficial for movies. Even though the HDR setting is auto, for the ultra hd films on sky q it doesn't seem to want to put it on.
It does however automatically come on when watching ultra HD content on Amazon.
Maybe that's not a problem with the tele but more so the fact the sky q doesn't signal the movies as HDR required.
Any other questions about it, let me know. Hopefully can help.
Latest comments (50)
MissiveUK
1 Jan 17#50
Crap build quality and judder, etc.. Sony has got good upscaler for SD channels...
MissiveUK
1 Jan 17#48
Returned Samsung 49ks7000 and bought Sony 49xd8305 for £699 (120hertz and 800mhz). Fantastic colours and motion flow....
russ to MissiveUK
1 Jan 17#49
Did you return the KS7000 because of the judder/motion issues?
Naruto
30 Dec 16#47
I do not trust Samsung tvs tbh. I have heard reports of motion blur and dead pixels with this model. Sonys are more reliable in my personal experience and from what I have read. I'm looking at the XD9305. Avforums review here
russ
30 Dec 161#46
Nope. KS7000 is true 10 bit.
haritori
30 Dec 161#45
the ks7000 is true 10 bit.
Noveed
30 Dec 16#44
It's 8 bit + FRC, I have the 60" version. When Game Mode is enabled the response times are the best on the market for gaming. As far as I know only the 8000 and 9000 Sammy's are true 10 bit panels.
cawsmawr
30 Dec 16#43
TV received this morning, well happy.
Delivery guys called 10 minutes before and unboxed it for me.
I've spent the last 3 hours messing about with YouTube, setting it up with my phone and generally getting my geek on :-)
emiratesstadium
30 Dec 161#42
21ms fps but motion blur and "juddering" is a huge problem.
Not worth the extra £300
Naruto
29 Dec 161#6
Sony are usually the best TVs for gaming. Definitely going for a Sony for my next upgrade. However you need a bigger screen for 4k surely? 49 or higher if you can house it.
haritori to Naruto
30 Dec 161#41
The Samsung KS7000 has the best input lag at 21ms with HDR enabled, on a 10 bit panel..
cawsmawr
29 Dec 16#38
it does make you laugh at how many technologies,refresh rates,resolutions,HD,full HD, 4k, 4k ultra, 4k ultra premiums telly manufacturers come out with. part of me wishes it was like 30 years ago when it was a simpler time, can't the lot of them just set a flipping standard and stick to it? :-)
ws007 to cawsmawr
29 Dec 161#40
sorry to burst your bubble, or melt your cheese, but sales men have always come up with gimmicks or different standards to make their products sell better, take the guy that came up with measuring TV screens diagonally, i`d like to jump in a time machine and smack him. :smirk:
ws007
29 Dec 16#39
got a few things from these guys, found them very good.
russ
29 Dec 16#37
According to reports on AVForums the 43" version of the Sony is VA. The 49" version is IPS.
cawsmawr
29 Dec 16#36
not sure about the fridge, but after placing my order, I had a confirmation, then an update on delivery for tomorrow, looking promising so far.
emiratesstadium
29 Dec 16#35
For me the viewing angle on this tele on drops slightly when at a huge angle, but I don't really sit at to much of an angle so suits me.
Also you get darker blacks and better contrasts with a VA. IPS screens also have trouble with colour bleeding, noticeable when watching a film when there is a black border on the top and bottom.
Obviously everyone is different but if you truely want a better screen then next one up from this is the KS7000 which is £200- £300 more which in my eyes isn't really worth it. Especially with all the reports of problems with it.
ws007
29 Dec 16#34
i`ve always preferred IPS, more colourful and you don`t have to be directly in front of the screen to get the best view.
ws007
29 Dec 16#33
sorry they are both IPS, looking at so many tv spec at the moment it get`s confusing.
only difference i can see is the LG is 120Hz and the sony is 60Hz.
emiratesstadium
29 Dec 16#32
And? IPS only favours some. VA in my eyes is a better screen personally.
Doesn't make the LG worth £100 more.
If you want 49" IPS then the Sony on this website is only £30 more.
millward84
29 Dec 16#31
Any decent 55 inch deals?
ws007
29 Dec 16#30
look at the spec, its IPS
hkkaxe
29 Dec 16#27
£519 at Argos
khamito to hkkaxe
29 Dec 16#29
It's £619, you're looking at a different model!
russ
29 Dec 16#28
The 43" version uses a VA panel which is better for contrast/black levels than the IPS panel in the 49" version. IPS has better viewing angles on the other hand.
Input lag for gaming is around 34ms which is good, but not as good as the Samsung KS7000 22ms.
Also, Sony are due to release a new range of OLED models at CES in a few days. I doubt they'll be smaller than 55" though, as that's as small as the LG ones are at the moment, and they make the panels for Sony.
Bartleby
29 Dec 16#26
Anyone know if these have Cinavia protection in the software?
"Our original test was showing an incorrect color depth of 8 bit due to some incorrect drivers on our system, but after some correction to our test apparatus, we tested again the color depth and we can confirm that the Sony X800D does in fact have an 10 bit panel."
(X800D is the US equivalent of the XD80)
emiratesstadium
29 Dec 16#24
What makes that TV better? It's only an 8+2 bit tele the same as this.
If you truely want better you'd need to pay an extra £100 on top of that in the hope the Samsung KS7000 drops again.
Even then people have been saying the 7000 isn't actually that great, with motion blur being a big problem.
cawsmawr
29 Dec 16#23
we thought it would be the same roughly. I will miss the old girl though :-)
Gollywood
29 Dec 16#22
I replaced a 6 year old 37" with a 43" screen and it took up less space than the 37"!!!
whatyadoinsucka
29 Dec 16#21
ah ok that makes sense very few retailers price match codes
cawsmawr
29 Dec 161#20
i think Jl would price match if it was the same price without the code and cashback...
stephenashforth
29 Dec 16#19
Agreed. Much better price, assuming 49 inch suits your room size.
stephenashforth
29 Dec 161#18
JL rejected my attempt at a price match with coop electrical last week because the coop price involved using a code. Any attempt to price match this should fail for the same reason.
Others, however, have reported successful price matches using codes so folks might get lucky.
westons1
29 Dec 16#17
My topcashback has already tracked, bonus.
Mrepg
29 Dec 161#16
In the same boat for living room tv and Im not losing the panny plasma other than to 55-65 oled. But need a tv for gaming in bedroom.
sally09
29 Dec 16#15
I don't think JL price match online shops
westons1
29 Dec 161#14
The 49" version of this Sony is only £30 more if you go through the same process as the OP!
What are they like compared to other big retailers ?
emiratesstadium
28 Dec 163#4
I got the tele just before black Friday from Argos for £500. Great set and fantastic with my xbox one s. Haven't notice one bit of lag or motion blur which is common in the Samsung on CoD, Battlefield or Fifa.
My xbox recognises it as a 10 bit tele and so does my sky q but think it's a 8 + 2.
You won't get a better tele without having to spend another £200 on top. That's a fact. especially when it comes to gaming. The fps are very low when put on the game setting though the tv.
It's a VA panel as well so has sharp contrasts but the one downfall is tge colour does start to fade when at a big angle but nothing major.
I've played about with the calibration setting but the setting out of the box are fantastic.
I have noticed I need to HDR on when watching ultra HD films on sky q. It does make the picture even better, but only really beneficial for movies. Even though the HDR setting is auto, for the ultra hd films on sky q it doesn't seem to want to put it on.
It does however automatically come on when watching ultra HD content on Amazon.
Maybe that's not a problem with the tele but more so the fact the sky q doesn't signal the movies as HDR required.
Any other questions about it, let me know. Hopefully can help.
If this was same price a John Lewis id pick it up,thery seem to be the best when/if things go wrong
whatyadoinsucka to kadooosh
29 Dec 16#11
you not heard of the john lewis price match :0)
Hiltron09
29 Dec 16#10
Got the 8077 in the man cave. I was scratching my head as to why my xbox 1 s was saying the tv wasn't compatible with 4k HDR 10 bit until I went digging and saw you have to switch on the 'enhanced HDMI' settings and use ports 2 and 3. Just watch out for that. Great little tele though.
ws007
29 Dec 16#9
your world is about to get less colourful, if you have the money or can wait OLED
Elevation
29 Dec 161#7
You'd hope so when they make the PS4. Life really should be that logical always! :stuck_out_tongue:
emiratesstadium
28 Dec 16#5
The only other slight negative I have is the is a case of DSE (dirty screen effect) when watching the footy, especially is the tvs live football setting.
This isn't so much a problem with the tv itself but more the fact it's an edge lit screen. DSE is found in pretty much every edge lit tele so can't be avoided.
It's not a major problem though.
westons1
28 Dec 16#3
Ordered, this is the best price for this TV at the moment!
donslibi
28 Dec 16#1
49inch is a good price. 43inch tends to be too big for most bedrooms and too small for most lounges.
cawsmawr to donslibi
28 Dec 161#2
We currently have a 37" Panny plasma, which is nearing the end of it's days, and it's the right size for our lounge. Including the bezel it's pretty much 43" so this is perfect for us.
Agree though the 49" is a good price..
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Opening post
I missed out on the deal from Argos and saw today's deal at Tesco (£588) that had gone hot and was due to bite. One quick search later and found the same telly at Co-Op electrical with a 5 year guarantee and with 50 quid off = £549.99 (there is a £4.99 delivery charge on top)
Going through Topcashback gives 4% off that making it £528 +delivery once it's been paid. (4% cashback ends in 5 days)
If you don't want to go through TCB the code you need at the Co-Op checkout is CPTV50
That's £56 quid cheaper for me, than the Tesco deal and includes the 5 year guarantee, if that doesn't make this deal hot, I don't know what is :smiley:
By the way, this deal is for the black one, the silver is 20 quid more and the larger 49" is £584.98 after cashback
And I'm also none the wiser whether it's 8 bit, 10 bit or 8+2 bit either, but reviews seem positive
here are the specs...
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/televisions/xd8005-series/specifications
Top comments
My xbox recognises it as a 10 bit tele and so does my sky q but think it's a 8 + 2.
You won't get a better tele without having to spend another £200 on top. That's a fact. especially when it comes to gaming. The fps are very low when put on the game setting though the tv.
It's a VA panel as well so has sharp contrasts but the one downfall is tge colour does start to fade when at a big angle but nothing major.
I've played about with the calibration setting but the setting out of the box are fantastic.
I have noticed I need to HDR on when watching ultra HD films on sky q. It does make the picture even better, but only really beneficial for movies. Even though the HDR setting is auto, for the ultra hd films on sky q it doesn't seem to want to put it on.
It does however automatically come on when watching ultra HD content on Amazon.
Maybe that's not a problem with the tele but more so the fact the sky q doesn't signal the movies as HDR required.
Any other questions about it, let me know. Hopefully can help.
Latest comments (50)
Delivery guys called 10 minutes before and unboxed it for me.
I've spent the last 3 hours messing about with YouTube, setting it up with my phone and generally getting my geek on :-)
Not worth the extra £300
Also you get darker blacks and better contrasts with a VA. IPS screens also have trouble with colour bleeding, noticeable when watching a film when there is a black border on the top and bottom.
Obviously everyone is different but if you truely want a better screen then next one up from this is the KS7000 which is £200- £300 more which in my eyes isn't really worth it. Especially with all the reports of problems with it.
http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/308a635
http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/55d1483
only difference i can see is the LG is 120Hz and the sony is 60Hz.
Doesn't make the LG worth £100 more.
If you want 49" IPS then the Sony on this website is only £30 more.
Input lag for gaming is around 34ms which is good, but not as good as the Samsung KS7000 22ms.
Also, Sony are due to release a new range of OLED models at CES in a few days. I doubt they'll be smaller than 55" though, as that's as small as the LG ones are at the moment, and they make the panels for Sony.
http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d
"Our original test was showing an incorrect color depth of 8 bit due to some incorrect drivers on our system, but after some correction to our test apparatus, we tested again the color depth and we can confirm that the Sony X800D does in fact have an 10 bit panel."
(X800D is the US equivalent of the XD80)
If you truely want better you'd need to pay an extra £100 on top of that in the hope the Samsung KS7000 drops again.
Even then people have been saying the 7000 isn't actually that great, with motion blur being a big problem.
Others, however, have reported successful price matches using codes so folks might get lucky.
http://www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/Sony-KD49XD8088BU-Black-49inch-4K-Ultra-HD-TV-Smart-LED/id-SON-LED-KD49XD8088BU-BK
What are they like compared to other big retailers ?
My xbox recognises it as a 10 bit tele and so does my sky q but think it's a 8 + 2.
You won't get a better tele without having to spend another £200 on top. That's a fact. especially when it comes to gaming. The fps are very low when put on the game setting though the tv.
It's a VA panel as well so has sharp contrasts but the one downfall is tge colour does start to fade when at a big angle but nothing major.
I've played about with the calibration setting but the setting out of the box are fantastic.
I have noticed I need to HDR on when watching ultra HD films on sky q. It does make the picture even better, but only really beneficial for movies. Even though the HDR setting is auto, for the ultra hd films on sky q it doesn't seem to want to put it on.
It does however automatically come on when watching ultra HD content on Amazon.
Maybe that's not a problem with the tele but more so the fact the sky q doesn't signal the movies as HDR required.
Any other questions about it, let me know. Hopefully can help.
better tv for less than £100 more
This isn't so much a problem with the tv itself but more the fact it's an edge lit screen. DSE is found in pretty much every edge lit tele so can't be avoided.
It's not a major problem though.
Agree though the 49" is a good price..