enLIGHTEN us then

For what its worth, this was £26.99 on 24/11/2015 and again over the Christmas/New Year period 2015 so that camel camel sales history is wrong.

would be great to have some suggested alternatives if this is such a bad option. I suspect torches are something that lots know a little about and few know a lot about.

"Probably" Mmm, yes exactly. When I'm walking in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere, I don't want probably, I want it to work without fail. In my experience, cheaper ones are a gamble.

CONVOY C8 UPDATE real good little torch well made and cheap Astrolux S2 good too but does warrant extra cash spent on it compared to the convoy

Protected cells have a small additional circuit which protects against overdischarge, heat etc, though many modern torches have this built in and give a strobe or flash indication before ramping down the power or cutting out. The circuitry in protected cells means they are therefore a bit longer so sometimes don't fit. It's worth reading reviews I suppose, but with the S2/S3 both types of cell work fine as I recall.

This article should help.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?204823-What-s-the-difference-between-a-protected-battery-and-an-unprotected-battery

Thanks for this tip.

I have a few Lenser torches including a T7 and an H7.2but ordered the T7M (which was linked rather than the LM-7) at £26.99. It arrived today and the beam is startlingly good and a huge improvement on the already amazing T7. I can't stop looking at the flawless wide beam which is like having a huge circle of daylight in front of me.

I've got two P7 torches. 1 was certainly purchased from Amazon of which is Original. The other purchased from somewhere, certainly a third party dealer, appears to be fake as the yellow triangle sticker is physically different. It's both a different colour yellow & size plus as mentioned here the star shape in the middle of the sticker touches the outer black line. I purchased this first. I bought the 2nd P7 as the batteries leaked on this, ruined the inside (was very difficult to remove the battery cap) & made a mess of the battery holder. I've had no paint issues with it tho' although it is a slightly different colour of black.

Oh, and another thing. These cells come in flat top and button top varieties. Check what your torch needs. I always get button tops though some people use flat tops then if button tops are needed they stick a small magnet on the positive terminal.

has anyone received fakes from amazon? not flaking as such just easily rubbed of like powdery paint may very well be a fake though

I have this torch which I bought several weeks ago for £29.99 on amazon it good but nothing special for the price.I have ordered a astrolux s2 and another cheapie from banggood,I am however sending this one back as I am not impressed with the finish.It say it is anodised no way more like spay paint that is powder and is rubbing off just by putting into the case so not impressed with that.Also want something that runs 18650 batteries as I also use these for vaping

protected means the 18650 battery has a cover over the positive end point.Some torched will not fit unprotected batteries

​Cheers for this dude. Really opened my eyes to a while new world I didn't know about. Reading BLF loads and about to order the s1 and the Samsung batteries (can't tell if I need protected or unprotected and why it matters thou!) and the xtar vc4. All in £45 ish. But at least I'll have the charger and batteries for anything going forward :smiley:

Oh mate - you wouldn't be disappointed. I have the Astrolux S2 and the S3, both are just brilliant. You can customise your firmware to allow for a range of modes, I have both of mine set to start on moonlight, then three more equally ramped settings before they hit 1400 lumens (obviously the 18650 S2 will have greater runtimes than the 14500 S3, but both are configured to have a genuine 1400 lumens high mode). The machining is first class and the lens and reflector are completely flawless. Both have illuminated tailcaps with a tiny blue LED in the switch cover which lights up when torch is off - very handy for finding it in the dark. Or, if you like, a twist of the tailcap locks out the circuit to leave it dark. They are superb torches for the £14-16 or so they cost with this code.

Best of luck.


SP

Good advice in your last post and now I'm tempted by a astrolux. ​

I was just about to say that gringo. The Astrolux S1 S2 S3 are all available for around £15 using 2016FNL and they are far far superior to this.

Code 2016FNL currently gives 35% off on flashlights at BangGood, making the Astrolux £16.16.

Anker LC90 LED Flashlight, IP65 Water-Resistant, Zoomable, Rechargeable, Pocket-Sized Torch (for Camping, Hiking and Emergency Use) with 900 Lumens CREE LED, 5 Light Modes, and 18650 Battery https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01KH2JP5G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_FWAzyb1KXDT5F

This one looks like a good alternative

Get in touch with Led Lenser, i hear they just send new switches out.

This torch is quite heavy with 4 AA batteries. Bought the earlier version P14 for £60 back in 2009. Since then flashlight technology has moved on so much. Personally I would recommend a rechargeable 18650 battery torch. The Led Lenser is good for focussed beam, doesn't have a usable flood due to low lumens output. Recharging 4 x AA batteries gets a bit annoying.

Expired?

You had two fakes, we already covered that

Still almost £30 for a torch...... But you do get batteries included. Bargain! :wink:

Earlier 1000 lumen had the zoom, same design as the 750 lumen version, the newer 1000 lumen waterproof one doesn't. The waterproof is a feature I could do without, would rather have the zoom, no doubt there'll be another variant along sometime soon.

How well do these compare with an old Maglight?

Front of my bike and hill walking :smiley:
Still have my police tech led lenser after 5 years,still superb.the cheap chinese imports are usually almost rubbish,with cheap contacts and guaranteed to brake after a few months to a year

Clas Ohlson have got a led lenser TT for £19.99:

http://clasohlson.com/uk/LED-Lenser-TT-LED-Torch/36-6043

​I got one then too and they're great torches, I have a few different LED Lenser torches. Customer services are great too - one of the rubbers split and they offered to replace it if I sent it. I ended up buying 10 replacement rubbers on eBay for less than the price of posting it, and had 9 spares so ended up doing that.

Happy to second posters recommendation of Feit LED torches: I have bought three of the twin 750 lumen packs from Costco and one of their 1000 lumen waterproof torches recently - absolutely stunning performance! Everyone in my family got one for Christmas.

750 lumens torches have a very effective zoom function...1000 lumen variety doesn't.

I've owned two lenser torches. The on/off switch failed on both, so I won't be buying this brand again.

Best comment by far from somebody who has done absolutely no research before posting.

There are many variants of Lenser torches which use different materials for different applications. They use the term 'professional' with some qualification as they are used by the police, armed forces and security; they rarely fail and so far, in my experience, Lenser sort out any problems without any questions. If you buy a £10 torch off eBay from China which looks like it has been designed for use by PS gamers, it may last forever or it may pack in in a couple or weeks or months - good luck getting it fixed or exchanged. My T7 is five years old and despite being used in all kinds of conditions on a near daily basis still looks almost new - it's rock solid. The lens technology on the more recent models is stunning and I haven't seen anything comparable elsewhere.

So, scoff if you like. I would rather pay more fore durability and reliability. For anybody interested, there is plenty of good information on the LED Lenser website though buy elsewhere as the prices are list:

http://www.ledlenser-store.co.uk

I have three different sized led lenser torches, if you buy them while on offer I think they are an absolute bargain, bought this particular torch or should I say bought for me at Christmas I think it was £29.99 absolute bargain. had the other 2 torches for about 7 years never had any problems absolute quality. dropped numerous times over the years no problem. sorry I can't comment on other makes that have been posted on here as I have never had any cause to buy one but I have had a number of cheap ones one of which was a Halfords own brand which let me down with the switch going faulty. can't really comment on the waterproof bit but there is rubber seals either end of the torch and I've used in the rain no problems. I suppose it depends how wet you want to get the torch might be a problem if you get a bath with it.

errrrm, okay.........

You need 8 rechargeable batteries, 4 in your torch and four waiting to get in torch, trust me this way it would never be light then

It is totally true that Li-ion cells can provide massively more power than your standard AA/AAA or whatever. However, they do need a dedicated charger. I recommend the Xtar VC4 (about £20 off Amazon) which will intelligently charge anything from your AAA's up to 26650 Lithium cells. Laptop pulls are great if you have the time and dedication, but for those considering looking at Li-Ion's it is genuinely worthwhile having a read of this thread which explains safe use of Li-Ion's.

In my view, people should consider their budget split more or less equally (ish) into three parts. Okay, the torch bit will usually get the biggest amount. But make sure you get a decent charger like the VC4, not some cheap crap off eBay. If you don't need to charge Ni-MH's (they are your AA's etc) then you could get the Liitokala Lii-100 which is great value and very well regarded at just a few quid. Then there are your batteries. You should get a couple so that you're not caught short but unless you know what you're doing/looking for out of laptop battery pulls, you should be looking at spending about a fiver upwards per cell. That way you'd be getting something that is at least reliable, not likely to explode and not falsely advertised with ridiculously high outputs. These Samsung 18650 cells get a very good write up. But make sure you do your research about what you're wanting to buy. Loads of great threads/advice on Budgetlightforum - as I've said, just join and start asking. There are some incredible bargains to be had in the quality torch world which just show the likes of LED Lenser up. Get yourself a well regarded 18650 (or even a miniscule 18350 if you use the included shorty tube) torch such as the £25 Astrolux S1 which can knock out between 1400-1600 genuine lumens dependant on battery and you see that other torches are just toys. The brightest torch I own which is about the size of this LED Lenser has a turbo mode of 3200 genuine lumens and has the build quality/waterproofing etc to match.

The future's bright........

I was out on a trip with a friend who had the above led lenser model and was not impressed with the lumen output. My cheapy pocket man mentioned above with a pulled 18650 laptop cell outperformed it. I would say to anybody to go for 18650 torchs. Just check the flashlight subreddit and you'll see what sort of world is out there. The technology and variety of 18650 cell types and their usage cases now is amazing.

I do too, I've not noticed any problems.

I use rechargables sometimes straight from the recharger; what's the issue here - too high an initial voltage?

Cheers, mine appears to be original. However I did buy mine from a third party on Amazon.

Oh well, at least it should be light by then........

If you insert rechargeable batteries straight out of charger, Yes they are going to damage the led, you can use rechargeable batteries but you need to leave them out of charger for at least 12 hours. This works great for me

The switch on it was a bit clicky and not as smooth as others Led Lensers I had owned. I checked online and there's quite a few threads about it. The contacts in the battery compartment are of a poorer standard. But the easiest way to check is that the small yellow triangle symbol that is on the torches is different. There's a black line that goes out from the center towards the edge of the inner black triangle but it shouldn't touch it. On the fake ones it does. Also the serial number is in a slightly different location and font.
If in any doubt send a couple of photos of the serial number to Led Lensers customer services and they'll tell you.
Best not to buy of eBay (got a fake of them as well) or Amazon marketplace. Just my experience though.

Absolutely, for round the house any old cheap one will do.

Looking at the lens & reflector they don't look very well made, marked & not very well polished.

What made you think it was a fake?

Cheekster? Cannot message you as you have PMs turned off!

IME Led Lenser torches are well made and reliable. Take the burn time with a pinch of salt though as it's measured to 1 lumen (which is three fifths of FA), it'll be next to useless long before it reaches that.

If someone doesn't mind waiting £8.45 from China.

Great torches, good price. Only thing to watch out for is that you don't end up with a fake. Led Lenser are often copied and I ended up buying a fake from an Amazon marketplace seller. NOW the one advertised here is from Amazon direct so I wouldn't expect there to be any issue.

As for mine, I sent a photo of it to LED LENSER who confirmed it was fake and I got my money back.

For you maybe not, but most people aren't walking in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. For the majority of people that torch is perfectly fine for their needs. Very tempted at £10.99.

Having the same torch I wondered the same. Where the P7 is limited in functionality over the T7M it also is less bright, producing just 200 lumens on it's most powerful setting. However it does have a battery life of 64hrs over 35hrs for the brighter 400 lumens. However I've noticed when the batteries start to run down the P7 does not produce much useful light output. So to me the T7M is a good deal especially as it is cheaper than what I paid for the P7 4 years ago!

I'm using the p7 at the moment and have done for the past 5 years, is it worth switching to this one or stay as I am?

I've bought enough bargainous Chinese specials from eBay and Amazon to know they are only a fraction as bright as they claim and tend to be very unreliable. Whilst you'll get poor examples from any manufacturer, I'd sooner get stuck in a dark place with a Maglite or LED Lenser and with the LED Lenser you should get a 5 year warranty.

Or for slightly more you could get double the light output: http://www.torchdirect.co.uk/500-to-999-lumens/coast-polysteel-600-led-torch.html

Luck of the draw I guess!

A work colleague paid over £50 for a Ledlenser torch last year and it failed within six months.

Me, personally? I'd rather pay under £4.00 and replace it twice a year than pay even the discount price of this deal in the hope it outlasts the cheaper option.

It's a lot of money to replace if you lose it too!

Feit electric torches from Costco - I've posted a couple of deals previously.
There's a 2 pack of 750 lumen torches with Duracell batteries (3X C cell) think thy are £15.99 + vat.
And there's a 1000 lumen torch again with Duracell batteries (3X D cell) again the price is somewhere around £15.99. The 1000 lumen has recently been replaced by a waterproof version which is a few £ dearer.
These torch lumen claims are genuine (check the torch forums) the light from both on flood is incredible, on full distance mode the led gives a square shaped light which some folk don't like but unless you're lighting up a spot on a hill half a mile away you don't tend to use the full distance mode often.
I've had a few of these over the last 3 years, all still going strong - also bought as gifts for family and they're all still working fine.

There are a couple of Amazon sellers who obviously resell the Costco ones, but dearer but still not bad value.

I actually submitted it as a deal, but it was deleted within a minute as the Amazon seller was based in China.

So, I'd better not share the link?:confused:

Had two of these both failed within 12 months but great whilst they lasted.

and then buy another one as the first one dies .. then repeat. Problem with 18650 cells is they are expensive (don't buy cheap ones as they a fire risk) and not everyone has a suitable charger.

This is a good torch. Yes you can get more powerful (fenix and nitecore are worth looking at). The zoom is genuinely useful.

Overall this is a good deal.Howver unless you want a physically bigger torch the link someone posted earlier;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ledlenser-T7M-Tactical-Torch-Black/dp/B00KSCG05Y

for the T7M is a better deal.

and then buy another one as the first one dies .. then repeat. Problem with 18650 cells is they are expensive (don't buy cheap ones as they a fire risk) and not everyone has a suitable charger.

This is a good torch. Yes you can get more powerful (fenix and nitecore are worth looking at). The zoom is genuinely useful.

Overall this is a good deal.Howver unless you want a physically bigger torch the link someone posted earlier;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ledlenser-T7M-Tactical-Torch-Black/dp/B00KSCG05Y

for the T7M is a better deal.

3000 - 6000 is a joke it'll be lucky to have 800.

Gearbest flashlight Zanflare f1, 1000 lum, 5 mode and 30seconds 1250 lum mode. no need charger, charge via micro usb. £27.

This would probably be just as good for half the price.

​Thanks, do you have a link to the UK seller? Can't find one for £3.75. Thanks lots.

Or....you could get something like the 'CREE XML T6' (or similar name) below for under £3.50 delivered!


Quoted lumens between 3000 - 6000 depending which seller you purchase from, so pinch of salt required I guess.

Several brightness settings + Strobe + Morse Code

Uses 3 x AAA batteries

AFAIK, this is the very same "NAVY SEAL FLASHLIGHT" that was scamvertised/spamvertised all over t'internet with the slogan "SO BRIGHT IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL” and offering them at 75% off their normal price of $200. :confused:

I have two of these, bought direct from China at a cost of around £3.30 from different sellers and and for the price paid, I can quite honestly say they p!55 over any torch I've ever had.

Yes, it's shipped form the far east and takes a couple of weeks to arrive, but no hurry, no worry!

For those that don't want to deal with Ali-Express, I've just discovered a seller on Amazon UK selling these for £3.75 delivered

I still cannot understand how such an item can be shipped from probably the other side of the world for under £4.00, when internal UK mail for such an item would be at least £2.85.

Gone for one of the tactical ones,the T7M as said above. I've had a P7 for several years and its been excellent. I've had cheaper ones in the past, but they've all broken, yes they've been as bright, but they haven't lasted.
Contrary to the above views, I love the adjustable beam and use it all the time.

"Professional Torch" for the Light bearer or if you just want to practice before Olympics.
Seriously? On a 'deal' website?
I got myself a 'no-name' torch for £7 Amazon/Ebay/Aliexpress. It serves me 3 years now. It is waterproof. It has rechargeable battery which lasts several hours.
The light? Yes! Daylight bright up to 10m, bright 25m, foxes at nigh visible up to 100m.
I don't get you guys spending too much because it's a "deal" .
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/torch%252Bcree.html?site=glo&g=y&SortType=total_tranpro_desc&SearchText=torch+cree&isAffiliate=y&initiative_id=SB_20161229020243&needQuery=n

This dude seems to know a bit about torches
Torches

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Reviews says rechargeable batteries shouldn't be used as will cut the life of the torch so with this in mind will give it a miss

The Thorfire C8 is very good quality for the price (£15 or so but will need Li-ion cells and charger). The Thrunite TN4A is superb for around £40. It takes 4x AA. The Olight range are very compact with cutting edge components, often with built in charging circuits. But they are a bit more pricey. I'd be buying these sort of things before I ever went near a Lenser. As I said, check out budgetlightforum. Join, ask, enjoy. As for people enjoying torches that cost more than a fiver, why not? But stay away from these awful bluey tinted Lenser things.

Apart from dog walking I'm intrigued what people use these for.....well not so much what for as that's evident but what activities are people carrying out to need such expensive torches.

would be great to have some suggested alternatives if this is such a bad option. I suspect torches are something that lots know a little about and few know a lot about.

Put it in a box, put Pro on it, charge ridiculous price and fools will come running :smile:

Buy a Good Chinese one, with rechargeable 18650 cell/s, with latest more powerful led technology ....

Busy with baby. C8 (and equivalent) are v good.

Nice find Op, but after reading posts & reviews think the p7.2 will do the job for me i.e. Dog walking so will wait till I can find a deal that won't make me cry(cost). But if I needed a larger Torch I would of gone for this deal(still crying, but you get what you pay for). Thanx for posts wv feedback :smirk:
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Good deal but personally I would choose the microchip lenser T7M over this which is coming up as reduced even more. I have the MT7 which is an earlier variant and it has some excellent features, Morse, Dim, Boost, Power, Low Power, Blink, SOS, and Defence Strobe, also 400 lumen. Couldn't pass this up so ordered as a replacement for my current one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ledlenser-T7M-Tactical-Torch-Black/dp/B00KSCG05Y/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1483001313&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=led+lenser+m7t

Cold from me because these torches are still overpriced. You can get better performance for less if you don't mind losing the branding, which is what you're paying for here.

Haven't voted. This torch looks significantly old generation compared to the newer stuff on the market. I've never been terribly enamoured with LED Lenser stuff. The zoom in my mind is a gimmick - give me proper IPX8 waterproofing and impact resistance over a silly zoom any day. This torch can only cope with light splashes yet it's touted at emergency services use?? Hmm. Torch tech had moved on massively in the last few years. Check out budgetlightforum for more modern and, in my opinion, better value torches. I tend to use Olight torches which knock spots off this but there are plenty of options out there which are far brighter, more efficient, with better features and a better tint and which are more robust than this, bearing in mind the zoom presents an inherent weakness in the water and impact resistance, or lack of. Much better alternatives out there.

LED lenser are torches for people who know nothing about torches and think they are the best thing ever.

I agree where are they a list would be helpful. Olight are very expensive.

I have the P7 Tactical torch, got it for sub £30 from Amazon a few months ago. Its a god send for when I'm walking the dog in the morning and evening.

nice find

Fine if you need a solid reliable torch for security work but if you just need a bright torch that you can use around the house, you can get half a dozen perfectly serviceable lights from China for this price.

LED Lenser are kinda like Maglite torches. Both brands are good solid, well built performers, think of them as workhorses, but neither are never the best value or performance on the market.

Lowest price

Brilliant torches.

Max lumens 350, LM-7 is 400, for slightly less :smiley:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ledlenser-T7M-Tactical-Torch-Black/dp/B00KSCG05Y/

I bought this for 29.99 a few weeks ago. it's a good torch, but I'd go for the p7 variants as they're more conveniently sized and have similar performance.

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