Who can afford to spend £1000 on a surround sound? Plenty of people evidenced by the fact that people buy them. UK hot deals is about deals *relative to the original price" not just "three kitkats at 70p in Farmfoods" which a lot of people mistakenly think is the only type of deal.

I'll vote hot, just for the though Richer Sound staff might send you esle where, but the PoundLanders and 99p Shoppers are going to send this to absolute ZERO.

Anyone know if these will perform better than wall mounted Kit-Kats? I can get 5+1 free in Farmfoods.

Anyway, looks like a good package if you are into your home AV. I have Cambridge Audio Minx's setup into a 5.1.4 system powered by a Denon AVR-X2300W partnered with some Kef R50 Atmos speakers and a BK Elec XXLS400DF sub. It's a bit of a peculiar arrangement, but surprisingly works very well.

​Hahaha, good new years day laugh, get a decent job, progress in life and then one day you'll be able to afford to enjoy nice things, instead of being bitter towards those who can

I'll vote hot, just for the though Richer Sound staff might send you esle where, but the PoundLanders and 99p Shoppers are going to send this to absolute ZERO.

Or you could give 2lb of sugar away with it then it would go hot

As a sweetener?

Anyone who post's some pop on here which is full of sugar Hot Hot Hot seem's to be goose fat at the moment for 50p

I think I fancy this, anyone got something similar? Interested in the music side.

I wish it was this amp with some dali zensor 1 5.1 at this price.

nice find op. heat added

This is the deal I had hoped would drop in price to just below a grand. Thanks for pointing out the pico deal. Will have to see if I can compare them.

Opened the link saw £542 eyes popped out of my sockets immediately thought buy it started reading realised that this was the discount lol ( **** me ) would love this but can't justify the money at the moment. Anyway Hot from me

Awesome amp for the price, not many amps out there with this number of inputs (or outputs for that matter) and also has Dolby Atmos (firmware upgrade) and dts:x in the price bracket.
I'm running this with the 7.2 Boston Acoustics Soundware and this sounds awesome.
Voted hot for the amp alone:)

who in this forum own this model and Who can afford to spend this money wasted? Nothing wrong the OP posting a deal she/he thinks good enough though. I have not voted either way. Just sharing the thought in this New Year eve.

Who can afford to spend £1000 on a surround sound? Plenty of people evidenced by the fact that people buy them. UK hot deals is about deals *relative to the original price" not just "three kitkats at 70p in Farmfoods" which a lot of people mistakenly think is the only type of deal.

Ace deal buddy. Enjoy

​im kind of torn between.
I agree with you but most people here won't afford to spend 1 grand on a surround system. and that's a fact too.
see how many people will buy this. none so far.

I bought this amp and a similar speaker pack from Peter Tyson a few months ago and very happy with it.

I did have humming issues with the included subwoofer cable but a £10 cable from Amazon solved that.

I have this very package, got it main for its two outputs (projector and tv) and I cant really fault it, sounds crisp, the woofer on shakes the floor, and the number of inputs and ease of use of the amp is brilliant

And to those who say its a waste I could say that its a waste to buy some rubbish sound bar!!

If you have the budget dont think you will be disappointed

They all have soundbars already.

:sunglasses:

The speakers pop up at £649 on a regular basis. I know as that's what I paid for mine 6 weeks ago. Decent deal though if you need an amp as well

Hot. Good deal this, buying separately you could get them for £1050 but with no speaker Bundle (When both are on offer)... You're saving a good £150 even if the AV Receiver and speakers were on sale separately.

I have this AV Receiver and it's excellent, runs my KEF 3005SE 5.1.

You'd struggle to find better ways to spend £1000 on a home cinema sound setup tbh, especially if you prefer style speakers.

7.1 mainly adds more rear sound, it's not a huge different tbh. I used to run a 7.1 Q Acoustic 2000 series set, moved back to 5.1 when I went for KEF T205 and stayed when I got KEF 3005SE.

You won't go wrong with this set mate. I don't think Q Acoustic have ever made a bad 5.1 set, pretty much everything they've release has won the speaker of the year awards, even their first foray into sound bars has won the yearly awards on the trot.

​What a ridiculous comment, this is HotUKDeals, not poundland.co.uk

There must be tons of people that can afford to spend this sort of money on audio equipment but why not save some money and look on here first? I only earn an average wage but spent more than this just on an AV receiver a couple of years back.

My AV Receiver is same as this one, bought it for £399 from Richersounds... My 5.1 speakers were £899 when new (I got them for slightly less) Plenty of people on here spend this amount of home audio... It's only when you start down this route, that you begin to see why some audiophiles say you should spend as much on the audio as you do your TV.

Anybody want to buy a Logitech Z906? :smiley:

Anybody running SKY through this, heard SKY audio is pretty compressed??

Meh, would like to see a decent 5.1.2/4 deal to go with that amp, 5/7.1 is so last decade.

Personally I feel the X2300W is a little overkill for those speakers.

I recently purchased an audio setup separately from Richer Sounds, consisting of the following -

Yamaha RXV381 (had no need for network features)
Q Acoustics 2020i (front pair)
Q Acoustics 2010i (rear pair)
Q Acoustics 2000ci (centre)
Cambridge Audio Minx x301 sub

Total £830

​Perhaps to those who require network features/more HDMIs/two subs, but I don't. Yes the X2300W has a power output 25W greater than the RXV381 (95W as opposed to 70W), but when you sensibly factor in the volume you intend on listening at then 70W is just fine for most living room arrangements.

​Would've liked to get the Dali but had to consider the Wife Acceptance Factor :disappointed:

Couldn’t agree more mate.

Yes the RXV381 is an entry level AV Receiver – but if it’s got the features you want and you’re in a typical U.K living room, it’s got plenty of power. Also the Q Acoustic 2000 is a fantastic set.

However at the moment, i would say the AVR-X2300X offers a huge amount of value over the RXV381 in this bundle due to the price.


Beginning to see a pattern with you and advice on here – you’re one of those rather frustrating AV enthusiasts that can’t seem to balance the actual use over the features. Typically you’d be shot down in a blaze on an audio/visual forum, especially because it can discourage others from taking the dip. Feeling all they can afford is "Basic" so not worth investing.

An RXV381 Yamaha is by no means a “Basic” piece of kit, in your average home living room terms it’s a high end piece of kit that happens to be at the entry level of that category. For the vast majority of people, it’s going to do the job and more. Yes they’ll lose power output and features – but for most the first dip into anything like this is just having a decent 5.1. You seem to have this fascination with power output – when in reality for the average home living room it’s really a moot point.

It's a basic AV compared to the X2300. What are you going on about? How is that frustrating lol. The guy is comparing his "bundle" to this one. I am not telling everyone to spend 2 grand on an AV like you're assuming.

​Yeah you're getting the X2300W for £200 here, which is a bargain. The 7000i is great for movies and such, but I'd struggle to recommend it for avid listeners of music though.

the RXV381 affords me the ability to listen to my 2020is at 106db 1 metre away without distortion, which I won't be doing very often as I value my ears!

Regardless of that, it is basic compared. I was just pointing it out, as people may be interested in your setup as opposed to this. I would prefer your speakers over this but the X2300 is a much more capable AV. I am not trying to put people off!

​Yes it is more capable, but the extras would go to waste for what I (and perhaps others) would be using it for.

Perhaps yes. It goes both ways.

It took you a while to figure it out ;--))

Note, it is a perpetual jizzfest with Denon kit! Yammy gets the dude foaming, Onkyo, Sony or Pio will attract similar whataboutery. Fav supplier: Exceptional AV. From all the 81 deals - not a single A/V Receiver related deal from this self-confessed expert & vociferous amp commentator. Same technique in the authors arc of fav brands, you will find no neutral advice or additional information, just the usual patronising backchat.

*waits for the usual profile assassination*
'They' said this and that and the other etc. Well, you have not posted any deals, I got millions more likes than you, My post counter is thousand times bigger than yours..I have more music in my single pubic hair than all of HUKD registered members & lurkers put together, I am the supreme oracle on all things gadgety..blahdey..blah..blah

Next up: Xiaomi phones or random musings on video cards...umm can't decide lol. Anyways, be safe on NYE y'all.

Wow. Just wow.

Great deal OP, thanks!

You'll typically get a better sound for music out of bookshelf speakers than style speakers - but there is the obvious compromise in space. Also if somebody was "really" into their music, i'd probably say they're better off running a stereo amp for that. I'm not a big music listener myself so can't speak from experience - typically we use the likes of Sonos for that around our home but many people promote the advantages of a stereo amp (especially quality of sound) if your passion is predominantly music.


Pull another one mate. You know exactly what you were doing, saying "Very, very basic" is about as close to saying "Naff" without actually saying it as you can get. It wasn't even subtle.

No it isn't. It's saying it's basic. Very few inputs, no network support, 5.1 only compared to 7.2 here, no multiple zones. These features are a very common thing with most AV's in the >= £300/400 range. You're telling me compared to the X2300 the RXV381 isn't basic? Entry-level is the same as basic or "minimum spec"? I'm not comparing Denon to Yamaha or to Onkyo here just they gave a list of what they purchased and I pointed it out. You don't have to be upset about it like anonimousse over there.

Passive aggressive behaviour is often followed by the big defence after being called out on it - especially as you've demonstrated it elsewhere on hotukdeals. Once again - pull another one mate. You know exactly what i'm talking about.

I got these speakers last week from Richer Sounds with the Denon Avr-x3300w. While the speakers are great, the "upgraded" sub was not good enough in my opinion, as it goes down only to 50 Hz. So at the end I swapped the system for the old QA 7000i. Really happy with them as the original sub sounds deeper ☺️

You're attempting to read between the lines when there's honestly nothing there pal.

No attempt necessary, it's blindingly obvious. Also your behaviour in other threads is indicative of it. On you trot.

Oh I see. This looks more like you're just enjoying disagreeing with me. Keep it up. See you in the "other threads".

^ Perfect example of what I mentioned i.e. the overuse of word 'they' to defer any responsibility. They actually said right of the bat that they did not have any use of the features that you regard as very important. Totally irrelevant pointing it all out and then have a made-up argument with yourself ROFLMAO!!

To have a disagreement with you would suggest we lack the ability to come to a consensus on something, shall we agree that you should try and pull another one?

Can you really hear the difference on these?

I read somewhere that AV speakers are only about 20% of the experience and as such it is a waste to spend massive amounts on the speakers.. I bought a Yamaha AV 5.1 Speaker set for £129.99 my receiver was about £250.00 and i really do not think I would get anything more out of it with something like these...

but I could be wrong feel free to correct me, I just spent £900 on a 55KS7000 and I'm sure some people wont see the difference between that and an Aldi Special Buy and would tell me its a waste of money..

You really would have to demo them to get an idea if they're worth it or not.

No I get that they would be much higher quality than what I bought, but I am questioning that in a real world situation is it worth paying £800+ on a set like this over a £200 set for what is a small part of the experience.. I'm not advocating buying rubbish but I am not sure really it would make anyones experience THAT much better, I think I would rather invest the extra in the display.

It's an entirely personal thing, for me it comes down to two things.

1. How "used" have you gotten to your current setup, i often find sound is the same as your palate. The more and better sound you listen to, the more distinct the difference between a good, very good and outstanding set of speakers will be.

2. What do you enjoy. Me personally, i love hearing those little details. The bullet casing dropping on the floor in an action scene, the rain water hitting the ground. The higher up in price, the clearer and more balanced sound tends to be.

​​So are you saying the RXV381 is inadequate for the setup I have? If not, why bother saying anything?

Honestly I dread to think the amount of people that have paid over the odds for devices with features they simply do not need due to advice such as this.

my z906 logitech would smoke this!

Why would someone buy this over a £200 one? I think there are lots of different factors at play here. Marketing/psychology/brand image is one, performance is another but another biggie is disposable income. If there are lots of demands on your disposable income then someone who is struggling will not be able to justify spending the extra cash whereas someone with a bit more cash will decide the (perceived?) performance is worth it to them. Someone once told me that people with more cash buy the same things as everyone else (clothes/cars/homes/food) they just buy more expensive versions.....

I never said your AV is crap, not good enough, or a waste of money. I said it's basic. Which it is. Compared with the X2300 (the one in the deal!)
The other 2 got all emotional about it and made it a big deal. You answered honestly with "I don't need the extra features a more expensive AV has" and that would have been the end of it.

Mind telling us what speakers and AV you bought, just out interest?

My Receiver is a Yamaha RX371 & Speakers are Yamaha 5.1 NSP40 (EDIT I have the NSP-20)

I bought it a good few years ago now.

​I'm pretty sure your exact words were that it was "very, very basic". Not just "basic", which would have sufficed. Not even "very basic", which would have been rather excessive. "very, very basic", which is just plain ridiculous and pretty much insinuates that it is crap, which it isn't.

I am going to upgrade my system, i was looking at a Denon, I am really really liking the Dali Zensors, shall I get the Dali or the Q Acoustics?

Coupled with the Denon 2300, ready for ATMOS AND DTS X.
Looks awesome!

I'm sat here in a puddle of tears mate, not sure how i'll cope with this...


Indeed. It's amusing to see him try and justify it when it was quite obvious what he was doing. It's like watching him dig a hole, very slowly, with different types of spades.

I'd go give them a demo mate sound wise, otherwise it's decision on style. Personally i'd go for the Q Acoustic, i prefer style speakers which aren't to overwhelming in size. The centre speaking is frekking huge!

excellent price was looking at this as the receiver is rated one of the best mid range about that includes 4k on all inputs. Can't find any reviews on the upgraded speakers but the previous versions are multi award winners. I'm going to see if Richer Sounds will do a like for like deal or better but if not I'll be getting this...brilliant find ... :smiley:

The dalis look awesome but i will have a test of both of them

5.1? You can't go wrong with either Dali or Q Acoustics.

Do you honestly think the outcome would have been any different if I said it with 1 less very? You guys are hilarious.

Definitely a personal taste thing i think, as i really don't like the way the Dali's look.. Then again, KEF eggs and the 3005 i have are also a personal taste thing, some people love their look and some hate them.

Might need a brace for your back, all that digging looks mighty painful.

That all you can say? Hilarious.

What would you like to me say? Who's your daddy?

So, so funny.

I can afford this :smiley:

Prove it.

​this is poundland.co.uk believe me

​we have a difference of opinion..that's all

​you just wanted to argue and you know it.
u should read my comment a few times as your brains getting blunt

Guys this is getting a bit tedious..no offence.

Just give up. Happy new everyone!

​i take no offence.
happy new year!

​It was an overly provocative comment and you know it. If you don't then I suggest you learn how not to be so inept when it comes to social interaction. Unless you have asberger's, if that's the case then I'll concede and apologise for my lack of understanding.

Would the Dalis be better for music?

Got a decent sized living room, will be using with an Xbox s which I'm told is getting a decent audio update in spring for atmos etc. Is this a decent match for it? Don't know much about audio, got some cheapo Philips soundbar at moment! Wife won't want cables everywhere as 2 year old will love it. What do people usually do for routing cable? Considering running under the carpet, is this a good idea?

​I wouldn't worry about atmos, besides it's irrelevant in relation to this speaker setup. This would be a great package for gaming & movies, but then again so would a cheaper (and more suitable for the configuration) AV receiver with Tannoy HTS101 speakers which would cost a lot less.

Forgot to add, I find running speaker cable under the carpet just fine as you're likely to be running it close to the walls, so it's easy to just pull up and tuck it under. It's what I do.

People who listened at school, and have a job.....

if you google the AV receiver youll find many packages available click here for a cheaper and better quality speaker package

yes as this receiver is capable but you would need to buy additional speakers for an atmos setup though

​many people could buy it but in reality they just don't spend this kinda money on it as they don't care about it that much.

Not everyone smokes, drinks, eats away on take-away etc. Hence, people can justify their costs in any way. I would go for this but my friend still thinks that the Dalis are expensive and I should opt for 2nd hand

​so you are not buying it either

Hey.

To be honest, in order to fully appreciate Atmos you're going want to run 5.1.4 or 5.2.4. Essentially giving you four ceiling speakers, this AV Receiver won't do that. Your best option then is 2 additional upward firing speakers added to your set later. So for me, I wouldn't want to cable in ceiling speakers unless I went fully 5.1.4. End of the day, it's good to have as a future feature you may use. I'm certainly glad I have if if I want to add a little extra - but 5.1.2 does feel like a half step.

Cabling under carpet is fine - I wouldn't be to keen on that unless you're prepared to carve out runs under the carpet. I personally use tubing alone the skirting board (they come with adhesive) which I can open and close. It's tidy and means I can replace cable easily if I need to. It's also cheap.

Also some advice... I have 2 kids. When my son was 1 (He's 7 now) he pushed in the domes on all of my speakers, I had stupidly left the covers off. To say I was annoyed was an understatement.

Otherwise, welcome to the club. You'll absolutely fall in love with this set and running a proper 5.1.

Cold cheap speakers, acoustic solutions are a budget brand, be better with Sony speakers.

The amp is ok though, better than the usual cheap package filler amps Richer Sounds usually throw in like Onkyo.

Folks, may I ask a bit of advice please?

I have a Sony 55" 1080p TV. I had a Sony soundbar (just sold it). I have a Sony 3D blu-ray player that is now unused. I've recently bought this:
Sony BDV-E4100 1000 W Home Cinema System with Tall Rear Speakers (Blue-Ray, 3D, 5.1 Channel Surround Sound, Two-Way Speaker, Wi-Fi and NFC) - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CGFWF50/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IXeAyb7WZ5QK9

Question is, would this setup be significantly better than the above? I can still return the above, get this setup and bring back in to play my former Sony blu-ray player that is currently in the garage.

An insane price, this is what hotukdeals should be about, screaming hot.

​This is a joke right? You're making a funny? Either way I laughed out loud. Acoustic Solutions! ahhh, good one mate.

If you play in the evening won't the noise wake the child? Was one of the issues I had.....you can get some pretty good surround sound headphones (optical out from Xbox to optical in without the need for a receiver/speakers) and then you can have the volume as loud as you like.....

What?? dude you have no clue at all. yes these are average speakers but you think sony are better? let me guess, is it because the bass sounds good yeah. you want good speakers you turn to brands like B&W, dali, monitor etc. and just so you know, onkyo make some of the best receivers out there. they are just unreliable that's all but performance wise they're top notch

Is the kit kat deal still available ? Will stock up if so.

​Come on man, the guy said "acoustic solutions", which is a whole different brand entirely to Q Acoustics. These speakers are by no means 'average' either.

Pretty much my reaction to whatever he spews out every time, toxic as hell :')

This seems a decent deal but if the speakers can be had for around 650 recently as was suggested, then the saving rlly isnt around 500 quid, more 100, still tho, if youre in the market, Q make some fantastic gear

​​1000W is a BS number, plus the subwoofer will be passive meaning it will need to be powered (driven) by a proprietary receiver. When you realise just how much power a good subwoofer requires, you will come to the conclusion that this kind of setup is pretty mediocre.

Have to say, your tone in this thread is completely wrong. You said that guys AV setup was very, very basic which is simply not true at all. A basic AV setup wouldn't even have an AV Receiver.

So confused. Why are people voting 1k speakers hot? No disrespect to these speakers but £999 is ridiculous. Richer sounds have kitted out my cinema room for half of that n it sounds better than a cinema. Why is £999 hot....like genuinely...if am missing something tell me!!!!

My comment was towards their AV receiver not entire setup.

i agree this deal is hot, I would vote hot for it also.
but at 600deg, this probably too hot, think it should be on 200-400deg range - buy if you really need the surround system, but i would not simply upgrade my surround system to this for this pricing..

What did you buy?

SQ is more important than look.

Preloved is good, the kits broken in as well.

Unknown make, Denon, please walk away
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​Hahaha, good new years day laugh, get a decent job, progress in life and then one day you'll be able to afford to enjoy nice things, instead of being bitter towards those who can

Thanks for the reply. So do you think this £999 set will be significantly better than my current £271 set (which includes the Sony 3D blu-ray player)?

Also, does this set work with Logitech Harmony remote?

what about monitor audio mass 5.1 setup ?? http://petertyson.co.uk/index.php/denon-avr-x2300w-av-receiver-monitor-audio-mass-av.html £759.91

Do you buy everything you see?

Wow, quite busy for a New Year's Eve, and not in a good way! :smile:

Audio/visual is a very personal experience - some will be perfectly happy watching an action movie on their phone with the supplied fairly basic earphones, others won't settle unless it's on a 100 inch screen with full Atmos and usable in room subwoofer response down to below 10Hz. Neither one of these people nor the ones in-between are wrong, it's purely personal preference, and you really must understand that some people genuinely can't tell much of a difference between a sound bar and proper surround sound, or they just don't care for it. This is not wrong and really doesn't need to be belittled, it's like anything else - cars, whisky, clothes etc.

For those asking if this is better than x, you should probably try to hear it somewhere first. Different speaker brands and models have different sound "signatures" and you will probably prefer one more than the others. This can also change depending on the AV receiver. It also makes a difference how they're set up and (to a remarkably large extent) the room they're in - you might find they sound quite different at home compared to in store...

This is still a decent deal though :smiley:

Anyone know if these will perform better than wall mounted Kit-Kats? I can get 5+1 free in Farmfoods.

Anyway, looks like a good package if you are into your home AV. I have Cambridge Audio Minx's setup into a 5.1.4 system powered by a Denon AVR-X2300W partnered with some Kef R50 Atmos speakers and a BK Elec XXLS400DF sub. It's a bit of a peculiar arrangement, but surprisingly works very well.

Like most things, They will Made for something like £50, then marked up 2000% to make people want them want them. There will be £200 systems out there that when tested in a double blind test will be indistinguishable or even sound better. Like everything in the audio world Its 99% placebo, if you believe they are better you will think they sound better.

Great deal.

Anyone know of a a wireless upfiring Dolby Atmos speaker set or at least the rear speakers being wireless?

looks interesting, I paid just a but more than this for the full 5.1 sonos set which I'm really pleased with the sound. I don't know how people can vote hot or cold on this though. I mean, its denon so I presume it's great sound but without hearing it I wouldn't like to put the heat up in case its just good....

Why are you looking at this thread?

I vote HOT.

I do not have or likely will ever have the money to spend on this sort of equipment, but a lot of people do and it seems to be a good discount on the usual price.

I'm likely to be one of the aforementioned 'soundbarers' this month as needing to improve the sound on my telly, somehow

How much did u pay for the minx?

I can't really remember to be honest as I bought them after just roaming round a Richer Sounds on a whim, but it was about £120 each for the fronts and centre (I went for the doubles) and about £70 each for the rears. Coupled with the sub, which is arguably overkill, I can fill the room with clean, powerful sounds. DTS-X and Dolby Atmos sounds great in particular.

​This setup is very different, it has a far more versatile receiver for a start (multiple HDMI inputs, outputs for two active subwoofers, 4K HDR passthrough, superior power output, wider range of audio support, etc), plus the speakers and subwoofer will likely have better sensitivity and frequency response.

I can't imagine why your logitech remote would not work with a Denon AV.

plenty of systems out there costing more than £1000. back in the day maybe 15 years ago you'd pay £1000 for a dolby digital amp alone before speakers. horses for courses.

Anybody ever heard of Onkyo?

Hmmmm Will wait for this to be in farm foods or home bargains.

Deal of the day. Well done OP.

Makes a change to see the top deal being something expensive instead of 19p veg from Aldi

It's a well known fact Sony are the premium brand in audio, designed and built in Japan, continually referenced in what hi fi as the brand to buy.

Onkyo also make yogurts, like yamaha make motorbikes, hardly specialist in area.

Errr....did you mean Onken? I didn't think Onkyo made anything dairy related...

​Masterful trolling skills. Bravo sir :laughing:

I had sky and switched to freesat cant comment on this kit but the sky sound quality was pants compared to the humax freesat box (picture too)

Yes - it is on the compatibility list.

I have this amp running the qacoustics 2010 package and it sounds amazing. Love qacoustics stuff as it has a lovely warm sound to it. Next job is to fit ceiling speakers to get some atmos action :smiley:

I could sell a cat poo for £100, then sell it on sale for £5, and according to you it would get heat on here for being a good deal. I don't know why you think this site is about deals relative to the original price, but you're wrong.

You don't even make any sense, because "three kitkats at 70p in Farmfoods" is still a deal relative to its original price.

Better spending it on English lessons.

Yeah give that a go mate, let us know how you get on.

I've been looking out for a new Amp and Subwoofer combo. Really appreciate this post and the fact that we can have sensible deals posted regardless of the overall cost! Heat added!

I have this set up and am having issues :disappointed: I have all my connections going into the AV (Sky, PS4, Media Player) and a HDMI from the AV to my Sony TV ARC input.

All the inputs play fine, except Sky TV where i get random screen flicker - ie screen goes to black, audio drops and then it returns a couple of seconds later, Very annoying but cannot understand what is causing this issue (i have swapped HDMI cables from the Sky box, but still the same issue).

Does it do the same on other HDMI inputs on the AV Receiver? Just to rule out the port on the AV Receiver.

Tried a different HDMI cable?

Does it happen all the time or just when you switch to it?

This thread cracked me up. Audiophiles are so salty.

Does it do the same on other HDMI inputs on the AV Receiver? Just to rule out the port on the AV Receiver. - haven't tried switching ports, will give that a go.

Different cable - yes

Happens all the time.

After that - i'd suggest changing the Sky HD output from 1080i to 720p - see if that helps as a stop gap. Also check if the Denon AV Receiver is trying to upscale the image. Then contact Denon.

Beyond Port, HDMI Cable and some kind of issue with the output / scaling. Not sure what else it could be. Could also try turning off CEC on the Sky HD box as a long shot ? (Think its labelled HDMI Control?)

Because it's a good deal? If there were speakers selling for £15,000 but one shop had a sale on, and sold them for £10,000 that would also be a good deal. It's not down to the price, just whether it's a good deal.

Also, for £500 your cinema room won't sound better than a cinema lol. Although I do remember I had previous thoughts when I first got into AV. :smiley:

Hi guys bit of advice. I recently bought a ks8000 samsung tv and decided to go with the soundbar option hwk650 however it won't do 5.1 so now I'm returning that and thinking of buying a 5.1 set with an av. I like this amp but will want to wall mount the speakers can anyone reommend a good set of 5.1 speakers to go with the amp I can't justify the extra £650 for the speakers so open to suggestions for something around half that.

are the speakers on this wired or wireless?

That's exactly my point, I'm not sure you've understood what I said. Give it another try :smiley:

Yeah, we all just wait for a reaction from a schoolboy who needs permission to use a computer then copy-pastes everything and still fails miserably! Your post is complete gibberish and all I got from it was: Q from James Bond films makes fantastic gear?? LMAO!!

Hot! Superfi is 90p cheaper! :laughing:

Depends on what you want out of a wall mounted speaker, you can wallmount most stuff but it's debatable how good they'll look on a wall. You can put bookshelf speakers on the wall - but do you really want to? I know i wouldn't.

http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/tannoy/hts101xp/tann-hts101xp

Above is a great set - but again. By the time you've got this and the same AV Receiver for £399. You've spent £730... Sure that £270 saving over this may seem like allot - but if you get this you won't feel like you need to upgrade for years.

Always the second hand route for Q Acoustic Q7000s or KEF 3005SE set, for me probably the best "looking" speaking to mount on a wall. KEF set will set you back anywhere from £350-£450 second hand, Q Acoustic Q7000 - around the same.

All in all.. For the sake of saving a couple of hundred quid.. The ease of getting these and the warranty, i'd just click buy and enjoy the smile that'll be wrapped around your face for the next 6 months.

​You're using cat poo as an analogy in a bizarre attempt at explaining something entirely unrelated to the original deal. Yeah, I get you.

Is the point that you've been drinking before lunch? Stocked up on that happy shopper cider that was a deal last week?

Guys are so bitter on here. Like someone said earlier. It's horses for courses!

I think the 2nd hand market is definitely the way to go unless a deal is too good to be true. The first avr and speakers I set were brand new. The 2nd one shall be 2nd hand until I get a taste of Atmos and DTS X. However I will then upgrade my tv to an oled 4k as I will spend 2k plus on that. No rush though!

I have heard good things about the Minx. A set along with an amp sold for 600 a few days ago which was quite a good price..I would have bought it but was too late.

Which amp have you got mate?

It's a shame that currently it's content holding us all back, i recently purchased a Samsung 55" KS7000. Same situation with 4K & HDR, just not enough around. Netflix, Amazon and even the UHD Disc selection is limited. I loved watching Deadpool in HDR and The Grand Tour. Image watching the likes of Interstellar or UHD Blu-ray, i wish they'd release it and take my damn money!.

I can imagine the implementation of Atmos or DTS:X is going to take even longer, can't see streaming services or broadcasters prioritising an increase in bandwidth on sound over video, especially when 4K and HDR is getting the big media push. I'm going to need to see a pretty stable flow of content before i put holes in my ceiling. I don't think any of the big streaming services ever implemented DTS-HD MA or Dolby TruHD

​I too would love to see Interstellar in UHD, we may be waiting a while though as I reckon Nolan is a bit of a purist and will likely demand to be involved in the encode, which may cause friction with Warner Bros. Same goes for the Batman films.

I know what you mean about Atmos and DTS:X, to be honest I'd be happy if service providers started using DTS-HD MA and TrueHD but even that looks unlikely for the foreseeable.

They are good and I have not had the urge to upgrade. I often change a lot of my AV equipment every 18-24 months, but have held onto these speakers as they are small enough to not look obtrusive, but are powerful enough to get some decent movie watching. I've owned Kef Eggs, Gallos and numerous other speakers - these are just as good to my ear.

I have the predecessor to the amp in the deal in this thread, a Denon AVR-X2200.

Nonsense.

Just out of interest there are similar deals with a set of full sized speakers (floorstanders etc). Apart from size/space saving is it possible for small satellite speakers to outperform full sized speakers? (thinking more music especially)

​A decent set of satellites have the potential to outperform bookshelfs/floorstanders in mid to high frequencies, which is why they tend to be a good choice for movies and gaming. However when it comes to music a decent set of bookshelfs (or floorstanders if you can afford them and have the space) will always outperform satellites due to the greater frequency range covered. Therefore as with most things, it all depends on what you are going to use them for.

Ad86, try :- https://exceptional-av.co.uk/home-cinema/home-cinema-bundles/manufacturer/denon/speaker-type/floorstander.html

Its a starting point and you can edit to suit your own requirements then search for the best deal maybe somewhere else.

Lots of fisty comments on this subject. If your happy with your own set up great, whatever it is. Yes more expensive kit might sound better and or offer extras but it wont always offer you the same upgrade ie paying ten times more wont give you ten times better sound but most likely will improve the sound.

Lots of other factors to consider, room layout, family and or any kids. No point upsetting the missus with ugly kit or buy something the kids are going to damage with their toys. Budget will be a consideration too but for me the missus appreciates the better sound so allows me more in my budget. Like Add86, I would prefer floorstanders to fill the volume of the room without sounding too loud like some of the style systems do. I have had those too and can do a job and are much better than tv sound.

I voted the OP's deal hot even though its not for me personally but maybe I am a sound snob who wont watch a film without surround sound anymore.

A good film needs a decent setup, this isn't snobbery - love the comment about the kids reminds me when I wondered what the hell was going on with my subwoofer - turns out they filled it with lego men lol

Hisense K720 65 (Not sure what connections)
In order of priority we use:
Kodi
Netflix/Amazon Prime
Sky HD

Budget of around £1000 - I have plenty of disposable income so can add +500 if required for better sound.
Just using TV speakers atm.

This is an old photo but heres the room layout, TV is in corner - Pic is taken from kitchen doorway.

Spoke to G/F and she doesnt want big ugly speaker or a huge sound bar however shes aware that sound is important.

She was impressed with the sonos soundbar/subwoofer/speaker setup and liked the idea of casting music to the speakers etc.

Is there anything thats better quality that will do this at this price? The above looks good but can I get any better?

Requirements:
Good sound for movies/tv
Good sound for music on TV channels/Spotify streaming.
Looks tidy/adequat to the room (she hates huge speakers at her parents like 1metre high lol.
multiroom/expansion would be a bonus.
Wirelss but not a requirement.

Is 5.1 and surround wasted due to layout of room or should we get a sound bar and spend the same?

All advice appreciated.

5.1 over a sound bar every time - Don't get me wrong Yamahas sound projection sound bars are incredible, it's actuality quite bizarre how they get it to feel a bit like surround when you listen. We've also got a cheaper Yamaha sound bar in our bedroom and its fantastic - wouldnt put one in our living room though. Since you've got a pretty decent budget, may aswell move to the 5.1 category.

Well since you've got a budget of £1000 - £1500 and seems like my wife, she wants more style speakers.. There are a couple of options.

1. This Deal
2. Denon AVR-X2300W + KEF E305 (Will set you back around £1300)
3. Denon AVR-X2300W + B&W MT-50 (Will set you back around £1500)
4. Denon AVR-X2300W + Monitor Audio MASS 5.1 (Will set you back around £800 in total)
5. Denon AVR-X2300W + KEF T105 (Will set you back around £1600)

If it was my £1000 - £1500? I'd go for the KEF E305 - but i love the aesthetic and see it as £300 well spent on top (I'm also bias since i own the KEF 3005SE). If however i like the look of each set equally, i'd go for the Q Acoustic. As always, go Demo the options and see what you prefer. You do get the advantages of the UniQ drivers with the KEFs.

I can highly recommend the KEF T105 - i had the KEF T205 set for around 1-2 years (They're around £1500). If you want the ultimate in terms of a discrete speaker set to put in your living room, it's hard to find better. It's a bit mind-blowing the kind of sound you get out of them being so thin.

On the 5.1 and room size - most rooms will suit a 5.1 set. 7.1 is harder though, you want the rears seated behind you with distance between the back of your head and the speakers. You see allot of people putting the two rears on their back wall with their sofa also against the back wall, which is pretty pointless.

A bag of sand for a set of speakers is a good deal? When a good deal of people on this planet struggle with basic food/water/shelter.

How about what you spend on your broadband you donate to charity, that'll mean we won't see another post from yourself. Two birds and all that :wink:

Why don't you start by using less electric

Kef t105. I have never had Kefs. The next speakers I upgrade Will be the Minx, dali, b and w or Kefs.

The Kefs do look awesome.

1100 quid now, expired.

It's quite mental the sound the produce but in my opinion they are far to expensive - i decided to sell mine and go for the 3005SE as i preferred the sub and egg design.

Wonderful speakers the T series - but i think you have to have a real need for flat and discrete speakers to put that kind of money on them. Perfect for somebody who's other half really doesn't want 5.1 in the house.

just went to buy this and it's 100 quid more :disappointed:

Thanks for all the info spritey I will go to richer sounds for a demo. How good is the songs 5.1 in comparison for the money. I don't really have a rear for the speakers in living room it's more to either side of the sofa so is that still ok

Either side will be perfectly fine.
5.1 or stereo songs? 5.1 as you can imagine can sound great. With stereo you have a few options. Play songs in stereo mode with just 2.0/1 enabled which is my favourite. Have them all play sound, so the surround and centre act like the fronts if that makes sense, also known as "All channel stereo". Or pseudo surround sound with processes like Dolby Pro Logic that try make your stereo music sound multi-channel. This can work surprisingly well it depends on the source. It's also useful for tv shows/movies that are in stereo as it gives them more depth and allows the centre more dialogue "focus" like it would with native 5.1

Why is no-one expiring this deal? It's still getting heat despite costing 100 quid more now.

No worries. 5.1 positioning is typically either side of you (See below), it's only when you goto 7.1 that you have speakers positioned directly behind you. Most AV receivers have a calibration mic / software so don't worry to much about being 100% accurate. The calibration on the Denon is very good, you get a cardboard stand that you put together and mount the mic on so it can sit at ear level of your seating position. You then follow the instructions and it'll calibrate for each seating position with the mic. I did find it put the bass a little lower than i'd like it, so turned that up manually.. Otherwise though it was perfect.

See Rev6 post for advice on music, pretty much what i'd say. If you need anything else in future - always feel welcome to drop me a message on here. Happy to help.

So jealous of all you first time proper 5.1ers - i wish i could go back and experience the first time i setup a proper 5.1 with AV Receiver in my living room, the feeling of awesomeness didn't wear off for months.

Just a side note. AVForums is a great resource for information also, there are so many knowledgeable people on their forum (Far more so than me) who love to assist and help people out.

Thanks Spritey, appreciate the advice.

At the moment will relax as I'm not due to upgrade the system for a while apart from the AVE

Avr*

OK, I'm hoping this deal is not for me as I already have some speakers, but no sub or av reciever.

I've a LG 50PS3000 plasma tv that's a few years old now but works well. ( http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-50PS3000-plasma-tv )
I've two KEF X300 Wireless speakers.
I've two Behringer B2031A speakers (although one is a bit crackly).
I've two Behringer MS40 speakers.

The speakers are not connected to the tv, and I'd like to make use out of them with the TV if possible.

Any ideas on how I should proceed would be greatly appreciated.

I don't think you're going to be able to create a proper 5.1 with active monitors, I don't know allot about them to be honest but seen a few discussion threads people asking about whether they can use them with their AV Receiver and it being a bit confusing....

You could hook 2 up to your TV I guess and create a stereo sound...