RAM
Memory Speed 1600 MHz
Installed Size 4 GB / 32 GB (max)
Technology DDR3 SDRAM - ECC
Effective Memory Speed 1600 MHz
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Features Unbuffered, single rank
Configuration Features 1 x 4 GB
Manufacturer Warranty
Service & Support Limited warranty - 1 year - response time: next business day
Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 1 year - response time: next business day
General
Type Server
Product Form Factor Mini tower
Embedded Security Trusted Platform Module (TPM 1.2) Security Chip
Server Scalability 1-way
Internal Bays Qty 4
Front Accessible Bays Qty 1
Colour Black
Processor / Chipset
CPU Intel Pentium G3220 / 3 GHz
Number of Cores Dual-Core
CPU Qty 1
Max CPU Qty 1
CPU Upgradability Upgradable
Chipset Type Intel C226
Cache Memory
Installed Size 3 MB
Cache Per Processor 3 MB
Hard Drive
Type HDD
Capacity 1 x 500 GB
Interface Type SATA
Spindle Speed 7200 rpm
Storage Controller
Type 1 x SATA
Controller Interface Type SATA 6Gb/s / SATA 3Gb/s
Channel Qty 4
Monitor
Monitor Type None.
Graphics Controller
Graphics Processor Intel HD Graphics
Video Interfaces VGA, DisplayPort
Networking
Ethernet Controller Intel 82579
Data Link Protocol Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet
Remote Management Controller Integrated Baseboard Management Controller (iBMC)
Expansion / Connectivity
Bays 1 (total) / 1 (free) x external 5.25" Slim Line ¦ 4 (total) / 3 (free) x internal 3.5"
Slots 1 (total) / 0 (free) x CPU ¦ 4 (total) / 3 (free) x DIMM 240-pin ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCIe 2.0 x1 ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCIe 2.0 x16 ( x4 mode ) ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCIe 3.0 x16 ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCI
Interfaces 4 x USB 3.0 ( 2 front, 2 rear ) ¦ 6 x USB 2.0 ( 2 front, 4 rear ) ¦ 1 x LAN (Gigabit Ethernet) ¦ 2 x audio line-out/headphones ( 1 front, 1 rear ) ¦ 2 x audio line-in/microphone ( 1 front, 1 rear ) ¦ 1 x PS/2 keyboard ¦ 1 x PS/2 mouse ¦ 2 x DisplayPort ¦ 1 x VGA ¦ 1 x serial
Miscellaneous
Theft/Intrusion Protection Security lock slot (cable lock sold separately), padlock loop
Pricing Type Build To Stock (BTS)
Power
Device Type Power supply
Nominal Voltage AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
Power Provided 290 Watt
Operating System / Software
OS Provided No operating system
Dimensions & Weight
Width 17.5 cm
Depth 43.5 cm
Height 36 cm
Weight 8.49 kg
- jasee
All comments (46)
M0nk3h
5 Dec 16#1
How does this compare to the HP Gen 8?
bouncy99 to M0nk3h
5 Dec 16#2
looking at the spec, similar peformance in a larger formfactor
M0nk3h
5 Dec 16#3
Yes, although now I've had a proper look, the G3220 does have an advantage over the Gen 8's G1610T
That's what I have. Good machine but not as well built as an HP, however four memory and four pci slots make it much more expandable. Another advantage over the HP is there is brackets for 2 x SSD as standard in place of the Optical Drive.
The remote management on the Xeon is really good, you get full KVM support from BIOS via RealVNC. You do not get this facility on the non Xeon model.
sdaspland
5 Dec 16#5
I was after a gen 8 till I seen this, too cheap to turn down
It only has 4 sata headers, 4 sata power and no spare molex or anything. So I wouldn't pay extra for 500gb disk unless you actually want it. The included sata power cables are too short to reach the top 2.5" bays
I went for one of these over a Gen 8 just because it was going up in the loft so I didn't care what it looked like. I also found it quieter than my previous Microserver.
However if you do want to change the CPU I think you have far more options on the Gen 8. There is very little information as to what the T20 supports other than the Xeon processors. That's the only complaint I have, otherwise it does a great job running xpenology.
tek-monkey
5 Dec 16#8
Same here, the G3220 is OK but once plex starts transcoding it can become sluggish.
Magnets
5 Dec 16#9
The piezo buzzers on these constantly make a very quiet noise, put your finger over it and you'll hear the difference. You can just cover it with some tape
kalico to Magnets
6 Dec 16#22
Not on mine it doesn't.
vinit9
5 Dec 161#10
Got this deal when posted with the Dell Cashback!
Really happy with it and works well with plex. I've had no issues so far!
sarah25
5 Dec 16#11
is this a gaming pc?
CampGareth to sarah25
5 Dec 16#12
No, gaming PCs have graphics cards, and only the ones with good graphics cards are called gaming PCs (the cards alone cost £200 and upwards).
This could have a graphics card added though, so long as the card doesn't draw more power than a box called the Power Supply Unit can safely supply (it converts 230v mains down to 12v, 5v etc), if it does the PSU will die and could take the rest of the computer with it.
The Lone Ranger
5 Dec 16#13
I have one of these with a GTX 750ti GPU, 20GB RAM and a 128GB SSD (for OS and Office). With the exception of one of the latest Forzas I've been able to play anything I've tried on it.
CampGareth
5 Dec 161#14
Oh this is about good graphics cards cost over £200, right, yeah there's a scale here depending on what you deem acceptable. My target is high or highest at 2560x1440, 30fps or higher. Missus goes for the same but at 1920x1080. Then there are games consoles with their... eh, 1920x1080 at low to medium, dropping the resolution if needed. Tbh I just wanted to avoid telling a person that any graphics card will do when the end result will be a GT 710 or something picked up for a tenner, while it is a graphics card, like hell does it turn a PC into a gaming PC.
baladar
5 Dec 16#15
Heat for this - I've been looking for a decent-esque server to replace the beat up backup desktop. Ordered!
Panda221
5 Dec 16#16
Doesn't look as nice as my Gen 8 ! lol
haileris
5 Dec 16#17
Its a good price - was approx £95 a few months ago from serversplus though with free next day delivery for those who might want to wait...
baladar to haileris
5 Dec 16#18
Goddamnit, lol.
Always the way.
tempt
5 Dec 16#19
Good for kodi?
bblgoose
5 Dec 16#20
Typical. Paid £129 for it this morning.
sarah25
5 Dec 16#21
thanks guys for the info, im pretty useless in that area - was thinking if it was then that would be a good xmas prezzy but he will just have to make do with his ps4 :smiley: x
farmi
6 Dec 161#23
Since I keep seeing VirtualMachines mentioned on the server threads, thought I'd ask here:
Why so many of you guys run VMs?
What tasks/apps are you running that makes this advantageous as opposed to running them all on a single OS?
What are the benefits for you guys?
Honest question!
tek-monkey to farmi
6 Dec 161#24
Keeping things separate means better stability, what happens on one OS can't really affect the other. I have one VM running my plex server, which has most of the resources. I then have an entirely separate downloads box, which runs through a VPN for extra security. Lastly I have a rarely used dev box running windows and IIS, which I use for the odd bit of stuff I do at home. Then I have a HP microserver (N54L) that is my file server.
CampGareth to farmi
6 Dec 161#25
I agree with tek-monkey, it's the separation of one task from another that's useful to me. On my personal machines I use VMs to do work, they run ubuntu separate from the windows 10 host OS. On the esxi server in the cupboard I run pfsense (turn your computer into a router, useful for its flexibility with VPNs and whatnot), ubuntu server (which is a go-between for ceph and samba, allows my windows machines to use my network storage), and ubuntu server again (this time for fun stuff, torrents, video conversions, whatever). I would not be comfortable with the box controlling my internet connection also running all my fun tasks since a problem with fun tasks could take my internet connection down or leave my home network extremely vulnerable to attack from outside.
phpandsql
6 Dec 16#26
Hi, i have a Xenon version of the T20, i am thinking to put a graphics card into it, not sure the one you suggested would need to change the psu? do you have an amazon link? thanks
Niklfc
6 Dec 16#27
Hi guys wonder if someone could offer some advice. I was about to buy an i3 6100, new mobo, psu and 8gb to replace my old home sever. It was costing about £330. I currently run Emby server for 3 devices and hardly transcode anything. 15 file shares all on my LAN.
Would something like this offer be ideal or could you recommend a better micro server than this to compete with the one I was thinking of building? Also what are the disadvantages to this type of system?
For info, the Xeon version supports 4k at 60 Hz. I've got 2 4K monitors connected to the Displayports, and a third lower resolution monitor on the VGA, works great.
OrribleHarry
6 Dec 16#31
Nor mine
TeamMCS
6 Dec 16#32
Oh? How does the remote management work? Does it lease a second IP on a different mac or something? I picked up the xeon variant
No nothing complex like that, just enable it in bios iirc Ctrl-p at startup. login with admin as password then change it to a strong password, enable all the features and bobs your uncle.
farmi
6 Dec 16#35
Thanks for your answers re VMs!
finlay1888 to farmi
8 Dec 16#41
Look at docker as well instead of having dedicated vm's for single tasks. Achieves the same goals a lot for the time with fewer overheads. So many apps are 'dockerized' sitting ready to pulled..
3guesses
6 Dec 16#36
OK, thanks, but I'm after something low-powered as well as cheap 8-)
I bought mine directly from Amazon for about £120 so best to shop around. I think you can get away with any GPU that is 300 watt or less. I think there is one of the new cards (a 1050 or something) that only draws power from the motherboard and is also 300 watt. You might be better seeking that out.
The Lone Ranger
6 Dec 16#38
No need to change the PSU for the card I mentioned BTW.
finlay1888
8 Dec 16#39
I have a 4gb ecc stick for this if anyone wants it for theirs? Give me an offer!
finlay1888
8 Dec 16#40
Also, the gtx1050ti is a new card well suited to this box due to only requiring power from the pci-e slot. Upcoming purchase for mine!
scav
12 Dec 16#42
I grabbed one of these last year. Got the G3220 model with 500GB disk for about £90 after cashback. Stuck a 750ti card in and it has been great as a HD media server and light Stream game use. I am finding I have to schedule index tasks for Plex etc to run out of main use hours just so it stays responsive in WMC especially if recording 2 programmes at same time as watching a movie. Is it worthwhile to hunt down a Xeon cpu and as they are end of life has anyone seen any cheap ?
finlay1888 to scav
12 Dec 16#43
i5-4690 and i7-4790 are compatible with the board if you don't require Xeon for ECC.
scav
12 Dec 16#44
Thanks for replying.
Which CPU do you have in yours ?
I think there is fine point at which it might be cheaper to buy a Xeon T20 when on offer and get rid of my current Pentium T20. I was hoping to grab a cheap £50 processor upgrade though instead.
finlay1888
13 Dec 16#45
I went for the i7-4790k (only got the k because it was on offer on Amazon Warehouse deals - You cant overclock on this board).
Stick in a SSD and 16GB RAM and you can get a pretty good spec machine for less than £300.
finlay1888
13 Dec 16#46
More like ~ £400 actually....that CPU cost me £200 and was a bargain at that price.
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Opening post
RAM
Memory Speed 1600 MHz
Installed Size 4 GB / 32 GB (max)
Technology DDR3 SDRAM - ECC
Effective Memory Speed 1600 MHz
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Features Unbuffered, single rank
Configuration Features 1 x 4 GB
Manufacturer Warranty
Service & Support Limited warranty - 1 year - response time: next business day
Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 1 year - response time: next business day
General
Type Server
Product Form Factor Mini tower
Embedded Security Trusted Platform Module (TPM 1.2) Security Chip
Server Scalability 1-way
Internal Bays Qty 4
Front Accessible Bays Qty 1
Colour Black
Processor / Chipset
CPU Intel Pentium G3220 / 3 GHz
Number of Cores Dual-Core
CPU Qty 1
Max CPU Qty 1
CPU Upgradability Upgradable
Chipset Type Intel C226
Cache Memory
Installed Size 3 MB
Cache Per Processor 3 MB
Hard Drive
Type HDD
Capacity 1 x 500 GB
Interface Type SATA
Spindle Speed 7200 rpm
Storage Controller
Type 1 x SATA
Controller Interface Type SATA 6Gb/s / SATA 3Gb/s
Channel Qty 4
Monitor
Monitor Type None.
Graphics Controller
Graphics Processor Intel HD Graphics
Video Interfaces VGA, DisplayPort
Networking
Ethernet Controller Intel 82579
Data Link Protocol Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet
Remote Management Controller Integrated Baseboard Management Controller (iBMC)
Expansion / Connectivity
Bays 1 (total) / 1 (free) x external 5.25" Slim Line ¦ 4 (total) / 3 (free) x internal 3.5"
Slots 1 (total) / 0 (free) x CPU ¦ 4 (total) / 3 (free) x DIMM 240-pin ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCIe 2.0 x1 ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCIe 2.0 x16 ( x4 mode ) ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCIe 3.0 x16 ¦ 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCI
Interfaces 4 x USB 3.0 ( 2 front, 2 rear ) ¦ 6 x USB 2.0 ( 2 front, 4 rear ) ¦ 1 x LAN (Gigabit Ethernet) ¦ 2 x audio line-out/headphones ( 1 front, 1 rear ) ¦ 2 x audio line-in/microphone ( 1 front, 1 rear ) ¦ 1 x PS/2 keyboard ¦ 1 x PS/2 mouse ¦ 2 x DisplayPort ¦ 1 x VGA ¦ 1 x serial
Miscellaneous
Theft/Intrusion Protection Security lock slot (cable lock sold separately), padlock loop
Pricing Type Build To Stock (BTS)
Power
Device Type Power supply
Nominal Voltage AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
Power Provided 290 Watt
Operating System / Software
OS Provided No operating system
Dimensions & Weight
Width 17.5 cm
Depth 43.5 cm
Height 36 cm
Weight 8.49 kg
- jasee
All comments (46)
The remote management on the Xeon is really good, you get full KVM support from BIOS via RealVNC. You do not get this facility on the non Xeon model.
It only has 4 sata headers, 4 sata power and no spare molex or anything. So I wouldn't pay extra for 500gb disk unless you actually want it. The included sata power cables are too short to reach the top 2.5" bays
This also looks nice http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-proliant-ml10-gen9-pentium-g4400-v5-2-3-4ghz-4gb-tower-server-206-99-144-99-after-2519349 - not sure why they didn't put an USB3 on the front though!
skylake has AES-NI on the pentiums
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f101/dell-poweredge-t20-1031138.html
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f101/hp-proliant-ml10-gen9-g4400-e3-1225v5-1114514.html
However if you do want to change the CPU I think you have far more options on the Gen 8. There is very little information as to what the T20 supports other than the Xeon processors. That's the only complaint I have, otherwise it does a great job running xpenology.
Really happy with it and works well with plex. I've had no issues so far!
This could have a graphics card added though, so long as the card doesn't draw more power than a box called the Power Supply Unit can safely supply (it converts 230v mains down to 12v, 5v etc), if it does the PSU will die and could take the rest of the computer with it.
Always the way.
Why so many of you guys run VMs?
What tasks/apps are you running that makes this advantageous as opposed to running them all on a single OS?
What are the benefits for you guys?
Honest question!
Would something like this offer be ideal or could you recommend a better micro server than this to compete with the one I was thinking of building? Also what are the disadvantages to this type of system?
Any help is greatly appreciated
"Max Resolution (DP)‡ [email protected]"
8-(
[edit] Found this: I've racked mine up now so I CBF. However for those who haven't: https://blog.philippklaus.de/2014/10/dell-poweredge-t20-with-xeon-e3-1225v3-cpu
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-proliant-ml10-gen9-pentium-g4400-v5-2-3-4ghz-4gb-tower-server-206-99-144-99-after-2519349
I bought mine directly from Amazon for about £120 so best to shop around. I think you can get away with any GPU that is 300 watt or less. I think there is one of the new cards (a 1050 or something) that only draws power from the motherboard and is also 300 watt. You might be better seeking that out.
Which CPU do you have in yours ?
I think there is fine point at which it might be cheaper to buy a Xeon T20 when on offer and get rid of my current Pentium T20. I was hoping to grab a cheap £50 processor upgrade though instead.
Stick in a SSD and 16GB RAM and you can get a pretty good spec machine for less than £300.