Seems like a decent price for the spec, a good PC for performing basic tasks.
The price includes free delivery & is available until 13th December. Quidco is offering 7.7% cashback, potentially making the total £303.67.
6.9% TCB also available.
Specs:
Dell Inspiron DT 3650 Desktop OS: Windows 10 Home (64Bit) Processor: 6th Generation Intel Core i3-6100T Processor (3M Cache, 3.20 GHz) Memory: 8GB DDR3L 1600MHz Storage: 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive Graphics: Intel HD Integrated Graphics Optical Drive: Tray load DVD Drive (Reads and Writes to DVD/CD) Wireless: Dell Wireless 1707 Card 802.11bgn + Bluetooth 4.0
1 year warranty
I/O Ports:
2 Front - USB 3.0
1 5:1 Multi-Card Reader
1 Audio Combo Jack Rear - Line in/out and Microphone Port
1 VGA
1 HDMI out
4 USB 2.0
1 Network Port
1 DC power
It's good, but for around £170 you can pick up a 4th gen i5 quad core with around 30% more CPU performance.
The 4th gens are at a good price / performance mark at the moment
anotherone10 to Money_Expert
10 Dec 162#4
There is another offer for basically the same spec PC as this one for £140 more on the Dell website, but addionally with a i5-6400 (6th gen), 128GB SSD & dedicated GPU (NVIDIA GeForce GT730 2GB).
Gormond
10 Dec 16#5
Could build better for less, cold.
smk77 to Gormond
10 Dec 161#6
links to parts please...
deliveryman to Gormond
10 Dec 16#7
explain pls
spannerzone to Gormond
10 Dec 16#8
Well unsurprisingly you can't build it for less unless you use Windows software that is dodgy like the £12 licences you keep seeing on here... that'll bring the price list down to about £300, so assuming you're happy to build your own, not have support on the entire product, not have a card reader and have probably soon to be revoked Windows software, yes you can save £30. Whoop di doo.
I'm happy to be corrected and made to look the fool (nothing new there) but the reality is that whenever someone says they can build better for less they always fail to provide a like for like comparison and usually exclude key components like the operating system and then defend the comparison by saying using dodgy Chinese supplied Windows licences is all fine. But like I say, I'm happy to see a list of very similar parts for less money.
spannerzone to Gormond
11 Dec 162#14
Exactly, so you're comparing unlicenced software, second hand or inferior parts, it's very hard/impossible to get the same spec as this PC for less, assuming you want new and legitimate items, plain and simple. I can get a PC for free that'll work but it's hardly a fair like for like comparison. Someone that just wants a new ready to go computer that's a fairly decent spec will not want to buy up £6 windows licences, seek out parts and then make it all work. If you work on the basis that anything can be had cheaper if you're willing to get second hand it would make HUKD a rather pointless site.
Gormond
10 Dec 16#9
The Windows 10 codes for £6 from eBay work fine, if you would rather give MS £100 than that's fine too.
I would list the parts but it's easy to find them yourself. Also that way you can then choose a good motherboard and PSU which this won't have.
Also at the bottom end I would look at AMD and second hand, you can get great deals on older chips.
I personally wouldn't spend £329 for this which is why I voted cold, I think you can get better for the money. In fact if your not playing games I wouldn't even use Windows.
I would also go for a lower end SSD rather than an HDD, it will give the system a huge speed boost.
toaster
11 Dec 16#10
I got this exact spec dell for £254 a month ago on the Dell Outlet page, scratch and dent but no visible marks at all. I'ts a neat machine but worth remembering that these have a small proprietary PSU's only rated at 240w and it can't be upgraded with a regular PSU. No spare sata power connectors on it either if you want to add an ssd later (needs a splitter adapter) Worth checking the outlet site regularly. http://outlet.euro.dell.com/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandid=1&c=uk&cs=ukdfh1&l=en&s=dfh&dgc=IR&cid=296386&lid=5667688
gowf
11 Dec 16#11
The cpu is a 6100T which is a low power version of the 6100. It is still decent but it does clock at 0.5ghz less. I suspect the PSU is going to be poor. A decent amd APU would be more cost effective and benchmark similarly with better integrated graphics than this
OctavianC
11 Dec 16#12
No point in using a slower and more expensive CPU in a general use desktop like this one. I'll vote cold for this.
Money_Expert
11 Dec 16#13
That's a bad deal still. The i5 6400 benchmarks slower than the i5 4460 & 4570 computers I speak of according to Passmark. Really the only benefit to spending the extra £140 is a slightly lower wattage CPU. You won't see any difference in day to day tasks and gaming.
Axeboy
11 Dec 161#15
Just for comparison, not voted:
The case, psu and motherboard on this are unlikely to be great, you never know. However for a cheap home build just as an example:
i3 6100 - £101.19
Gigabyte H110 Mobo - £39.98
Corsair 8gb DDR3 - £32.45
Western Digital 1tb 7200 HD - £42.95
Thermaltake Versa Case - £26.48
DVD rewriter - £11.42
EVGA 80+ Power Supply - £37.21
Total = £291.68
The issue here as per above is Windows. I'm sure some people can get it for cheap or might have a spare copy, anyways that is for you to decide. Also, the spec above has a slightly better processor and "probably" better long term life with regards to upgrading.
Those prices are not deals though, just normal prices.
Just for comparison, not wanting to get into battle :smiley:
spannerzone to Axeboy
11 Dec 161#16
Which is pretty much what I listed above using Part Picker, just about £300. I really shouldn't bite at the usual can build it for less comments, I dare say in the food deals people say they can grow it for less or make it for less or steal it for less :smile:
toaster to Axeboy
15 Dec 16#21
+ 5:1 Multi-Card Reader
+ WiFi card
+ Bluetooth card
+ 12 month next day collect and return warranty
swfarrington
11 Dec 161#17
I think you have to look at the target market as well.
People who generally build machines these days do so because they want specific hardware in them - possible a sweeping statement, but probably not by much. Again, generalising, those people will be building higher spec'd machines that what is a basic office machine.
So whilst Axeboy has demonstrated that you could get components to come in at roughly the same price (ignoring the OS as per his and Spannerzone's comments) in practice would anyone do this? I doubt its worth the cost saving (if any) or the time.
For a basic office machine, the specs are fine and chances are someone buying this system just wants it to replace an outdated machine with as little faff as possible; certainly not to build one!
spannerzone to swfarrington
11 Dec 16#19
All good points, in fact I used to build my own for those very reasons but once it dawned on me that a Dell for £250 to £350 would suit my needs I never bothered building my own again. Sure I add memory and SSD's but there's absolutely no point for me in wasting time building a machine when these prebuilt ones work fine for my needs. I don't game so that probably makes a big difference of course.
Marekj
11 Dec 161#18
I would guess most people in the market for a pc have no desire to build their own, whether or not they save themselves £30 odd.
Also, don't the £12 eBay license keys get restricted en masse every few months?
spannerzone to Marekj
11 Dec 16#20
Yes £30 isn't worth the bother for the average PC user and certainly having the potential risk of the OS stopping working is a major pain in the rear.
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Opening post
The price includes free delivery & is available until 13th December.
Quidco is offering 7.7% cashback, potentially making the total £303.67.
6.9% TCB also available.
Specs:
Dell Inspiron DT 3650 Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Home (64Bit)
Processor: 6th Generation Intel Core i3-6100T Processor (3M Cache, 3.20 GHz)
Memory: 8GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Storage: 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
Graphics: Intel HD Integrated Graphics
Optical Drive: Tray load DVD Drive (Reads and Writes to DVD/CD)
Wireless: Dell Wireless 1707 Card 802.11bgn + Bluetooth 4.0
1 year warranty
I/O Ports:
2 Front - USB 3.0
1 5:1 Multi-Card Reader
1 Audio Combo Jack Rear - Line in/out and Microphone Port
1 VGA
1 HDMI out
4 USB 2.0
1 Network Port
1 DC power
Also includes a wired keyboard & mouse:
Dell Multimedia Keyboard-KB216 - UK (QWERTY) - Black
Dell Optical Mouse-MS116 - Black
21 comments
Deal URL if the other link takes you to the dell configurator: http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-3650-desktop/pd
The 4th gens are at a good price / performance mark at the moment
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bYFJgL
I'm happy to be corrected and made to look the fool (nothing new there) but the reality is that whenever someone says they can build better for less they always fail to provide a like for like comparison and usually exclude key components like the operating system and then defend the comparison by saying using dodgy Chinese supplied Windows licences is all fine. But like I say, I'm happy to see a list of very similar parts for less money.
I would list the parts but it's easy to find them yourself. Also that way you can then choose a good motherboard and PSU which this won't have.
Also at the bottom end I would look at AMD and second hand, you can get great deals on older chips.
I personally wouldn't spend £329 for this which is why I voted cold, I think you can get better for the money. In fact if your not playing games I wouldn't even use Windows.
I would also go for a lower end SSD rather than an HDD, it will give the system a huge speed boost.
http://outlet.euro.dell.com/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandid=1&c=uk&cs=ukdfh1&l=en&s=dfh&dgc=IR&cid=296386&lid=5667688
The case, psu and motherboard on this are unlikely to be great, you never know. However for a cheap home build just as an example:
i3 6100 - £101.19
Gigabyte H110 Mobo - £39.98
Corsair 8gb DDR3 - £32.45
Western Digital 1tb 7200 HD - £42.95
Thermaltake Versa Case - £26.48
DVD rewriter - £11.42
EVGA 80+ Power Supply - £37.21
Total = £291.68
The issue here as per above is Windows. I'm sure some people can get it for cheap or might have a spare copy, anyways that is for you to decide. Also, the spec above has a slightly better processor and "probably" better long term life with regards to upgrading.
Those prices are not deals though, just normal prices.
Just for comparison, not wanting to get into battle :smiley:
+ WiFi card
+ Bluetooth card
+ 12 month next day collect and return warranty
People who generally build machines these days do so because they want specific hardware in them - possible a sweeping statement, but probably not by much. Again, generalising, those people will be building higher spec'd machines that what is a basic office machine.
So whilst Axeboy has demonstrated that you could get components to come in at roughly the same price (ignoring the OS as per his and Spannerzone's comments) in practice would anyone do this? I doubt its worth the cost saving (if any) or the time.
For a basic office machine, the specs are fine and chances are someone buying this system just wants it to replace an outdated machine with as little faff as possible; certainly not to build one!
Also, don't the £12 eBay license keys get restricted en masse every few months?