seen similar comments of pro sub -£300 and slim sub -£200

There was a deal for a PS Pro for £299 but it was a Very deal where you paid £349 and then they gave you a £50 credit on your account. This deal finishes tomorrow I believe but it was the console only not a bundle.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ps4-pro-1tb-349-99-50-credit-back-when-bnpl-very-2540570#comments

You might get an improved frame rate, but it's mostly for 4K TVs. Same games as the other PS4s

The pro is the exact same console with better hardware so it can do bigger resolutions and play some games at 60htz rather than the standard 30htz.
Honestly I'd suggest going for the slim unless you're planning to play on a 4K TV and are used to PC gaming(where 60htz is more common), the slim is smaller, easier to clean and cheaper(also there are performance issues on the PRO where some games get tearing and dropped frames when playing on non-4K TVs).

If it is for a 12-year old kid, don't bother with the Pro. They won't realistically know the difference.

In simple English, you could benefit from better frame rates if the developers do a decent job. There are some games on Pro running at worse frame rates than the original PS4 (but at a higher resolution) but we are still in the early days and I would hope the developers will get the balance of FPS vs resolution better over time. If you don't have a PS4 I'd suggest going for the Pro as I suspect before too long we are going to see some games that don't run as well as they should on the standard PS4 but the games get released because they "run OK" on the Pro.

BF1 runs up to 50% better

​for me its better with psvr (virtual reality headset)

Basically if you don't plan on using it with a 4K TV that supports HDR properly then the PS4 slim is fine many reports have stated running it through a 1080p display actually runs games with a less consistent frame rate than the slim as a higher resolution is downscaled if you will to 1080p super sampling offers slightly better image but less consistent performance.

You'll also get better power consumption than the current version - see DigitalFoundry on utube.

It plays exactly the same games. The real benefit is extra grunt that will give you better image quality and possibly better performance (eg games won't have as much slow down stuttering). VR supposedly looks better with it too (probably the chief reason Sony even bothered to do this). I'm not sure a 12 year old will appreciate all that. If you see one at a good enough price, you're probably better off getting the PRO. If you see a slim/pre-slim for a good price, get that.

I think the best option would have been to let the player choose on every game 60fps 1080P or higher resolution at 30 fps. I don't think just having 60fps at 1080P would have been a good enough selling point on it's own and wouldn't help games look better on 4k sets, which are getting a lot more common place and affordable.

Really IMHO the PS4/Xbox One in their standard forms do 1080P well enough, yes 60fps more often would be nice and yes it would be nice if the Xbox One could do 1080P on more cross platform games but overall I think they are good enough 1080P machines for the most part. To me the whole point of these intermediate systems is to start tackling the demands of 4K. I think it will be hard for the PS4 Pro as it's specs are only barely adequate for that job really. i like the efficient upscaling engines Sony has in place but I still think perhaps their smartest option might have been to push it into 2017 and beef up the specs to a level that can get closer to 4K with fewer compromises and less need for scaling....

​He needed to go into the options and set it to 60fps at 1080p. Runs far better than it does on the standard console.

Do you think they'd honour it after a week?

It will only scale existing games if the developers of a particular game decide to patch that in. They're not obliged to do so. But future releases will.

How long is the 10% on for?

Edit: Website says Sunday.

So (£349.99-10%)-£10 = 304.99

Is this better than any possible Black Friday deals?

You only live once. Some people dont want to be the richest man in the graveyard and happily splurge on something they are interested in. I dont really get why people pay £100k for a new car when they could get the 2 year old model for 80k, but they do and good luck to em

No way will you get that until next year. Black Friday is good but not that good lol.

Get a new g/f.

As mentioned above, deal should be updated to reflect 10% Quidco. Tempted to go for it and not wait a week. Can get £28 for Dishonoured 2 at Cex reducing it down to £277 and I don't think there'll be many BF deals beating that?.

I'm totally with you on that. Tesco did a Dishonoured and Infinite warfare deal for £366 just recently. On BF they might throw in an extra game like Battlefield, or Tomb Raider for the same price. Especially since they have been offering these games for roughly £20 when bought with a PS4 pro. I'm hopeful. But if you spot a good deal on BF please pm me just in case I miss it lol.