I know some of you will turn your noses up and say its only 1080p but in my eyes you can either a 4k compatible...does the job but pretty much bang average all you can have the glory of 1080p and it look properly amazing....
Just as the folks would say on the Reddit in the PC areas...Just master race things :wink:..this is the 1080p master race
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Boxrick
17 Nov 1612#37
I have a 4K 64EF950V OLED in my front room and a 55EC930V ( 1080p ) OLED in my bedroom. I have owned a new tv basically every year for the past 9 or so years and then faulty swaps etc on top of that, so thats lots of televisions. I also spent around 7 years working in a TV / Hifi shop. So I would like to think I have a pretty good knowledge of televisions and available tech.
Simply put, OLED is by *far* the best tv tech around it has perfect blacks, great motion and 180 degree viewing angles with no loss of quality at extreme angles.
I have recently bought a PS4 pro, I have a PC with a pretty powerful GTX1080 and I7 6700K so I am about as 4K ready as you can possibly be. 4K is a huge fad, nothing runs it, content which is not 4k gets scaled and running native resolutions even puts a lot of strain on high end PCs. Media boxes don't support 4K and streamed 4k is barely better than an original 1080p Bluray disk AND this is all at 65" at around 4 meters away.
On this basis, I would highly recommend this television ignore the fact it isn't 4k and enjoy one of the best pictures available for the price!
ianbeany to plumberman56
17 Nov 167#3
You would realise if it had been damaged in transit within the 12 months though surely?
jayjayuk1234
18 Nov 165#62
What utter nonsense, current standard?? no chance! there is still very little 4k content around, and most people won't see the difference at 55" anyway
My first 4k TV was 55" and i mostly watched 1080i (and lower) broadcasts on it, blurays were of course 1080p
and Netlix doesn't have a massive amount of 4k stuff tbh, so i was barely seeing anything in 4k. What a waste!
There is 4k bluray now and it is ridden with DRM thanks to AACS 2.0, and little chance they will allow PC playback anytime soon, all helping to hamper sales and there are very few 4k broadcasts, will be a good few years yet before this becomes 'standard'.
The problem is people are spending 1k on a poor 4k TV, this TV will outshine most budget 4k LED TV's, it's as simple as that.
Also, they keep finding ways of making your TV obsolete, this time round it's HDR, what next Ultra HDR? then 8k, the technology moves much faster than the content.
pops1975
17 Nov 165#30
C'mon people if u want 4k Oled you'd still have to spend twice as much.
This is a 1080p set, why drone on about 4k when it's not relevant to this deal?
Latest comments (85)
SpencerUk
21 Nov 16#85
sheffield Costco is £1999 so I dunno if that's specific to Hayes?
If you manage to get it at that price, its a steal..Doubt Amazon will give it though!
plumberman56
21 Nov 16#82
checked the amazon price today and it was £875 put it in the basket and tried to purchase went to get my card, and the price went back up?? called amazon and explained this. they said there get back to me. wonder if they will honer the low price?
LazybeatX
19 Nov 16#81
150 nits, that's ridiculously low.
russtyk
18 Nov 162#80
I think the only thing you might regret is that OLED tech is still expensive. 4K is great (I have one) but you can't seriously say everything will be 4k anytime soon. most of the channels on sky are still not even HD.
Agree with the timing and I'd like to think people do their research before dropping a grand on anything, but like I said before, this tv will still work fine in 5 years since when has the concept of future proof ever existing in technology?
In 5 years you'll be saying the same thing about HDMI 3, 8K and HDR40 etc. etc.
You buy a TV primarily for the picture quality and the quality of the picture is future proof.
delahmed
18 Nov 16#79
How much you pay for it? Can you comment on gaming? any motion blur or huge input lag?
treb
18 Nov 16#78
I had the same sony mate, my missus and i both agreed the TV was amazing but being a techno victim I had to upgrade to OLED. She never stopped moaning until she saw the picture and now reluctantly agrees OLED is a bit special. It's a bit like going from 56k modem to broadband lol
delahmed
18 Nov 16#77
I see a lot of posts from experienced guys - im sure most are on AVForums too.... anyway i have a Sony Bravia KDL-55W905A. Its a solid 1080p screen but itching to upgrade it. Is this the one?
Mainly used for kids cartoons, and when they go sleep, daddy comes out to watch Match of the Day, Netflix and PC gaming. Is OLED response times good? I think mine is 5ms, but very nice to game on.... no complaints there.
mmurdoch
18 Nov 16#76
Might be worth contacting your local Richer Sounds to see if they have stock as it more than likely will come with 5 years warranty for hopefully not much more cash
scappers
18 Nov 16#75
Looks to be over now.
Bigears24
18 Nov 16#74
Was there a code for the £979.00 it appears to be £1299 now ?
BigAde
18 Nov 16#73
I saw one of these in Argos the other day (might have been the 920v actually)
The picture was truly stunning. Jaw dropping in fact.
I'd buy this like a shot, but 55" is just too big in our small living room, wish they did a smaller one.
If you are after a 4K TV, at least buy a true 4K one that can do the full colour range on every pixel.
Happyharold
18 Nov 16#71
I got this TV as a lightning deal for 999 a few months ago, to replace a perfectly working 8 year old Panny plasma.
Once you go OLED you will not go back. Go to Currys and see if you can compare a OLED 1080p to any 4K led taking into account your actual distance from the TV in your room and you will see there is no comparison, and that is with perfect 4K input to the 4K TV.
A couple of remarks. Yes you see pixels if you are close, but I am not close enough so it doesn't bother me. In relation to watching sports. I was watching a rugby match the other day, the HD picture (and broadcast of course) was so good that you actually felt you were on the pitch. Watching SD content on this TV is heart breaking though if you compare to the HD version(especially cartoons). I didn't have that with the plasma, the difference on plasma was not as noticable.
In relation to amazon, 1 yr warranty.. I got this TV and it was badly damaged in transit ( very badly), it took a week to replace and get the damaged one picked up. I was extremely angry and disappointed at the time, but now 2-3 months later, it is water under the bridge... Would I buy something like this from amazon again.. I guess if the price is indeed almost 25% less than elsewhere, yes.. 1 yr warranty : You can buy additional through amazon, but with most electronic items (at least in my experience) , if it breaks , it breaks within days or weeks of purchase. Then there is always EU regulation that offers protection as well..
dmvadd
18 Nov 16#70
I currently have a Kuro which has worked flawlessly for 8 years;this tv has actually made me stop and think is it time to bit the OLED bullet ?
foxrocks
18 Nov 162#69
I've been using an old Panasonic GT30 1080p plasma as the display for my gaming/media PC for years and it works fine.
Saying this is obsolete seems silly to me; the content is barely there for 4K HDR. Furthermore, even when that content becomes more available, you're still going to have access to plenty of 1080p content, and let's be honest - the difference between 1080p and 4K on a 55" set is not comparable to the old days of going from SD to HD.
People are still paying very good money for used Kuros and Panasonic ZT65s.
treb
18 Nov 16#68
What people don't seem to have mentioned yet and this is very important - 1080p isn't the native resolutionm of a 4k TV. 99% of content out there is 1080p so looks glorious on a set of this calibre. Most 4k upscaling just doesn't cut it and this set will blow them all out of the water and then some.
treb
18 Nov 16#67
It's over but there's some even cheaper ones to be had on ebay!
SirSousa
18 Nov 16#66
I cant decide now this or UE55KS7000
brendinho
18 Nov 16#65
superb tv!! cheers!!
pops1975
18 Nov 162#64
You have admitted yourself that the pixels are visible when you're sat close tp the set - again, unless your normal viewing distance is 2ft from the screen you will not see the pixels - you may see artifacts due to poor source signal and/or image processing systems.
Try turning all enhancers off.
Additionally, you state I am not speaking the truth - I own this set. Almost everything I watch blows me away and makes me want to watch stuff I 've seen before again on this set. I might add that I usually wouldnt watch things if seen before.
Some still own and use their CRT' and plasma's and use them to this day.
Today you would expect every single channel thats broadcast is done so in HD - they aren't and thats a fact.
Many Pioneer Kuro owners moved to Oled, some are still very happy with their sets. Are Kuro sets crap now because 4k is very heavily marketed?
This set will be fine in 5 years - with DV/HDR teathing issues, what will the next 4k tech be?
You will then have to buy a newer 4k set anyway.
SpamJavelin
18 Nov 162#63
Pixellation fault? Are you on glue? Do have any idea how recommended viewing distances work?
Anyway, OOS at that price so I will have to wait for a Black Friday deal on a TV as good as my old Panasonic Plasma!
jayjayuk1234
18 Nov 165#62
What utter nonsense, current standard?? no chance! there is still very little 4k content around, and most people won't see the difference at 55" anyway
My first 4k TV was 55" and i mostly watched 1080i (and lower) broadcasts on it, blurays were of course 1080p
and Netlix doesn't have a massive amount of 4k stuff tbh, so i was barely seeing anything in 4k. What a waste!
There is 4k bluray now and it is ridden with DRM thanks to AACS 2.0, and little chance they will allow PC playback anytime soon, all helping to hamper sales and there are very few 4k broadcasts, will be a good few years yet before this becomes 'standard'.
The problem is people are spending 1k on a poor 4k TV, this TV will outshine most budget 4k LED TV's, it's as simple as that.
Also, they keep finding ways of making your TV obsolete, this time round it's HDR, what next Ultra HDR? then 8k, the technology moves much faster than the content.
musssy
18 Nov 16#61
Wouldn't this model be better value? 3D plus 4K and I believe you get 5% cash back from quidco for any tv over 50".
I have a ordinary 4k tv which did not cost an arm and a leg . I watch perfectly sharp image not a blurry image everyday. I previously had a very good LG plasma TV which I got rid of as I bought the 4k as the picture quality is much better. Once you get a decent 4k tv , sure you won't go back to any 1080p TV even Oled. Who knows what happens in few years time but if buying TV today, 4k looks much better as it does not have the pixellation picture quality fault of 1080p.
Boxrick
18 Nov 161#59
But would you rather watch a near perfect 1080p image or a blurry washed out image and have to wait 3 or 4 years for 4k to become mainstream?
I guess it ultimately comes down to use and viewing distance, but I was making this same argument about 6 or 7 years ago against 1080p panels at the time when people *had* to have 1080p screens at around 27-32" in size.
The difference now is we have a night and day difference in display technologies, previously we had LCD and Plasma which were better in different respects. In this case though LCD really is a bad technology compared with OLED, it really is vastly superior in all respects.
Stuby
18 Nov 16#58
Amazon has it for 1299 now. Is the deal over?
sam_of_london
18 Nov 16#57
It's £1000 pounds down the drain as 4k is the current standard. 1080p is already finished. If you already have Oled TV it may not matter. But to anyone buying new TV, please don't buy this old rubbish. If you look on the Internet on sites like eBay and gumtree, you may get perfectly working second hand 1080p TV at much discounted price as every one is buying 4k and trying to get rid of their old 1080p TVs.
jayjayuk1234
18 Nov 16#56
Personally, i feel HD is absolutely fine for a TV of this size, and if contemplating going to 4k you need to look at a bigger TV or ideally a projector to make the most of it.
As for Black Friday, i very much doubt any 4k OLED TV's will have significant discounts, they are very difficult to manufacture and LG have the market cornered on this technology, 4k & OLED is what most people ideally want, why would they need to drop prices?
You may be able to find a 4k LCD/LED TV for a good bargain though as the market is flooded with various brands
TwistedNerve
18 Nov 16#55
can anyone remember the model number of the flat screen version of this?
sam_of_london
18 Nov 16#54
As I said before even if you have slow Internet 4k is better, as it only while streaming Internet speed matters. All other times Internet speed does not matter if you have downloaded or watching 4k blue ray. The pixels are always visible in big screen 1080p TV whichever make, model and screen type you choose. You are are not speaking the truth when you say you cannot see the pixels because they are so big in 1080p TV . I went to currys and compared both 4k and 1080p TVs side by side and the pixels make 1080p look horribly ugly when watched from near. 4k is worldwide standard and all UK TV boxes come with it and 4k blue ray is available from UK sellers like HMV and Amazon UK. So you cannot say it's limited to Japan only just because it suits you.
amb47uk
18 Nov 16#53
If I bought this TV ..or any TV over a grand...I would like it to last minimum 5 years.
It's all well and good saying no 4k or hdr content is around at the minute. The speed things are progressing..and which more high quality content is being released is accelerating. Soon every major channel will be 4k..every TV show shot in 4k....every stream will be 4k...every youtuber will be 4k..every film will be 4k...every major gaming console will be 4k
Today this TV won't be beat..
In a year or two you might be regretting it's 1080p...in 5 years you definitely will.
This is a great TV that you would spend £1k because it has a stunning picture, but is not future proof.
Finally we are a couple of weeks shy of black Friday...now is not the time to buy.
I await the "1080p is enough" fanboy hatred
jayjayuk1234
18 Nov 161#52
I have the OLED65B6V, 4k and 1080p are superb
Motion blur is minimal
pops1975
18 Nov 161#51
You say you can see the pixels on a screen, have you considered sitting further away? Is it not obvious that bar PC monitors you will see pixels on any screen if you sit close enough?
Are you saying 4k/8k came about due to pixel size? You forget we aren't in Japan and also dont have 2Gb/s internet either.
The fact is, this Oled will to an extent make all content look better. The sticking point being poor broadcasts will still look poor.
sam_of_london
17 Nov 16#50
If you have 4k tv, you can use it as pc monitor much better as well, due to hdmi 2.0. There is PC/laptop displayport 1.2 to hdmi 2.0 convertor available from scan and other UK computer sellers . Then you use your big screen TV as 4k monitor or screen using the convertor. It is not possible with hdmi 1.4 connector which is very limited in its use and bandwidth.
SpencerUk
17 Nov 16#49
Can't comment on that..Best thing i can say is put some content on and go to a store and play it..you will see why when people get an OLED they will never consider anything else again.
Boxrick
17 Nov 164#48
Huh? What is that paragraph of garbage.
HDMI 2.0 offers higher bandwidth but that doesn't instantly result in a better picture The specification is designed to carry 4k at 60hz, but since this television doesn't display 4k that is absolutely irrelevant.
The alternative to this is a 4K LCD but the display tech in this absolutely smashes and pounds LCDs at any resolution, maybe the Samsung K7000 4K series is about the best alternative for the money but certainly doesn't compare with this even with the difference in resolution.
killabyte
17 Nov 162#47
What about SD channels and HD football? That's gonna me the main thing the TV is used for...
sam_of_london
17 Nov 161#46
You may have the best quality 1080p Oled but the dots, are still visible when sitting near, in big screen 55 inch 1080p TV as the pixels are much bigger. The pixellation alone spoils the picture in big screen 1080p TV however expensive it may be. That is why 4k and 8k was invented in Japan but now 4k has been made into worldwide standard. Also hdmi 2.0 is very big improvement compared to hdmi 1.4 or hdmi 1.3 so can carry much more information and the signal is much better though they use the same lead . I don't want to buy anything with hdmi 1.4 now that hdmi 2.0 and displayport 1.2 are out, both of which have much higher bandwidth compared with old hdmi 1.4 and hdmi 1.3.
SpencerUk
17 Nov 161#45
Yeah..It's not something places like Currys advertise out....John Lewis endorse doing it. They look at you funny when you have a full film on (especially at currys) but IMO when your spending over £700 on a TV, you want and need it to be right for you.
snoopy18
17 Nov 16#44
Don't buy the used one, a scammer
killabyte
17 Nov 16#43
Will they let me test out a movie on a USB stick? Lol
SpencerUk
17 Nov 163#42
Here you go harping on about HDR...A format that still hasn't even got an industry standard yet...You're basically telling people to buy a HDR 4K tv when both standards aren't set..Next year, those standards will settle down but then you've got the first gen in the panel standards which then need refinement, etc....1080P OLED is the gold standard, its your rolls, your bentley...You're utter gorgeous model.
...In essence you're saying "hey pick this girl because shes ok at everything but not perfect" as apposed to saying "hey get this one because she's the gold standard at what you do and you'll always be left pleased"
And to answer your question, OLED 1080p EVERY time....Like I said, go to Currys or somewhere and put Dark Knight on a USB stick, play it on a 1080p OLED and then play the EXACT same on say a £1000 Bravia with your HDR and gimmicks and you can't honestly sit next to your keyboard and tell me it doesn't look better on an OLED.
FYI for Reference, Play the Hong Kong scene of the Dark Knight :wink:...Get blacks, greys, reds, blues.,.the lot...
killabyte
17 Nov 16#41
Anyone who's got an oled tell me what the football in HD is like? Do you get motion blur? Is the ball blurry when it's moving around? I may get this TV as my old Panasonic viera died after nephew broke the screen.
Al18
17 Nov 16#40
I've got the ec930v which is essentially the same model which was a released a year before.
Excellent TV, OLED is in a league of it's own. Movies look spectacular and even everyday mundane shows like X Factor or the Chase look breathtaking.
sam_of_london
17 Nov 16#39
What if you were in the market for new TV and choice was between this 1080p Oled and ordinary 4k TV with Hdr . Then 4k is definitely better. But as you can wait for more time as you have a very good TV, then you are ok as you are. But those looking for new TV today and cannot wait for the rest of their life or even few months néed to make decision soon. Who knows what will happen in 5 years time with 4k as technology keeps on getting better and 4k Oled may cost the same as 4k Lcd today.
sam_of_london
17 Nov 16#29
The dots on 1080p screen will not get any smaller even with the best 1080p screen to accommodate for more information in the 4k signal. Also it will be incompatible with all 4k format as it does not hdmi 2.0 or displayport which has higher bandwidth connection between the box and TV. 4k tv can show 1080p brilliantly but it is not the other way around. Now all boxes are 4k so it is like throwing money down the drain.
russtyk to sam_of_london
17 Nov 163#38
Come on seriously, I know it's my opinion against yours but the picture quality on all these oleds is stunning. More isn't always better and these screens will keep working until they break.
4K and HDR is the future yes, but we're still not there yet and these won't be incompatible with anything. There's no mandatory 4k, Sky, consoles and any other source will still work perfectly and give a great picture.
When was the last time a new version of HDMI or HDCP actually forced anyone to upgrade their TV?
There a plenty of 4k screens on the market with a massively inferior build quality and image quality to these.
Boxrick
17 Nov 1612#37
I have a 4K 64EF950V OLED in my front room and a 55EC930V ( 1080p ) OLED in my bedroom. I have owned a new tv basically every year for the past 9 or so years and then faulty swaps etc on top of that, so thats lots of televisions. I also spent around 7 years working in a TV / Hifi shop. So I would like to think I have a pretty good knowledge of televisions and available tech.
Simply put, OLED is by *far* the best tv tech around it has perfect blacks, great motion and 180 degree viewing angles with no loss of quality at extreme angles.
I have recently bought a PS4 pro, I have a PC with a pretty powerful GTX1080 and I7 6700K so I am about as 4K ready as you can possibly be. 4K is a huge fad, nothing runs it, content which is not 4k gets scaled and running native resolutions even puts a lot of strain on high end PCs. Media boxes don't support 4K and streamed 4k is barely better than an original 1080p Bluray disk AND this is all at 65" at around 4 meters away.
On this basis, I would highly recommend this television ignore the fact it isn't 4k and enjoy one of the best pictures available for the price!
lazyboy
17 Nov 163#36
lovely screen, I have had one for a year and I am very pleased with it. The black levels are just amazing.
SpencerUk
17 Nov 163#35
So take me for instance, I'm a Pioneer Kuro owner...I have the DEEPEST blacks pretty much of any LCD...why would I go to a 4k panel with inferior blacks to my Kuro, which years down the line most LCD's still can't beat (check hdtv test)???
Why would I invest in 4K if the standards aren't set yet?...You look at all the different standards including HDR..you can't future proof anything in 4K..
If you watch any standard blu ray film or stream (which lets face it, most of us do in 1080 here, not 4K, 4K 3D, etc, you WILL notice a difference between OLED and a LCD panel at 1080p.
In my eyes if you need a TV for RIGHT now, you get the best 1080p you can get Kuro, VIERA TX-50CX802B or OLED...If you must have 4K for some reason, you're walking into a period of uncertainty where you don't know if Dolby Vision is the new standard or HDR 10, or what constitutes as Ultra HD.
I play Dark Knight movie on my Kuro and everyone is in awe...my mate plays it on his Bravia X85..The blacks look grey....Just saying...
SpamJavelin
17 Nov 16#31
My broadband isn't fast enough to stream 4K and I don't buy discs so there's no point in going 4k for me. This is a real tempter.
sam_of_london to SpamJavelin
17 Nov 161#34
4k is a set of technologies. Apart from the 4k screen, the connection between the box and TV is also better due to hdmi 2.0.. The content is in hevc format. It is protected by hdcp 2.0 from piracy. 4k tv can play 1080p but not the other way around. All the boxes are 4k now. You won't want to miss the action because of slow Internet connection as movies have started coming in 4k blue ray format. Internet speed is only relevant when streaming . If you are just downloading and watching or watching 4k blue ray , you can watch the same with slow connection speed.
plumberman56
17 Nov 161#1
just looking at this deal, very interesting, only one years guarantee though. always concerned that the TV will get damaged in transit?
EagleUK to plumberman56
17 Nov 161#2
It's not your fault if it gets damaged in transit.
ianbeany to plumberman56
17 Nov 167#3
You would realise if it had been damaged in transit within the 12 months though surely?
seanandleah to plumberman56
17 Nov 16#33
I'm not sure it would take a year in transit tho :smile:
pops1975
17 Nov 165#30
C'mon people if u want 4k Oled you'd still have to spend twice as much.
This is a 1080p set, why drone on about 4k when it's not relevant to this deal?
sam_of_london to pops1975
17 Nov 16#32
No need to spend on 4k Oled. Mobile phones come with both oled/amoled and Lcd yet no one hardly cares as they cost the same. In TVs oleds are very expensive and apart from LG and Samsung no one makes them in bulk , so some people with lots of money buy them to differentiate them from everyone else. I don't see lot of difference in picture now as I have 4k tv. If you not rich to buy 4k Oled today , then just buy a normal 4k Lcd TV with Hdr and you can watch everything out there and connect with all 4k boxes available today and tomorrow. Once tv oled screens are mass produced like TV Lcd screens today and have price parity like in mobile, you can buy either.
SpencerUk
17 Nov 162#28
And the adoption of an Xbox One S is?.....The point im trying push here is that everyone says oh you need 4K this and HDR that...Fact is there is no real 4K standard still and nor is there for HDR so why the rush to get one?
Then you've got the issue with the content available, everybody isn't going to go out to re-obtain their entire collection are they...then you've got the issue with streaming services not really doing a true 4K experience...Yes its compressed...and its not THAT bad but if you're buying a 4K tv surely you want a proper 4K experience not a sort of 4K....Just saying.
sam_of_london
17 Nov 161#27
Xbox One S and other uhd players can play 4k blue ray. 4k blue ray can play original 4k Hdr content without compression. All the new movies now come in 4k /uhd blue ray format. Also compression is not all that bad as all the media content on Internet is compressed to save bandwidth.
plumberman56
17 Nov 16#26
Currys have just knocked another 10% off the LG 910 TV
sam_of_london
17 Nov 16#7
Maybe this may have value one day as vintage like they do for very old mainframe computers and cars . First generation 1080p Oled screen made by LG. Now all the boxes are 4k, what will you connect it with without hdmi 2.0, Hdr and hevc?
russtyk to sam_of_london
17 Nov 16#15
Urm, yeah, they don't make non-4k screen any more and all the other features are mandatorys.. New tech makes old obsolete overnight.
The colour reproduction on this more than compensates for the lack of 4K.
SpencerUk
17 Nov 161#24
...Take a look at how much a second hand Pioneer Kuro is...which still sells well to this day...then get back to me.
paulrwarner
17 Nov 161#21
Has to be 4K and HDR for future proofing, LG and retailers know this - pay the £500 more for the B6 or wait till mid 2017 when the B6 will be £1,000.
SpencerUk to paulrwarner
17 Nov 162#22
Freeview isn't 4K never mind HDR
YouTube/Amazon/Netflix is compressed 4K
...Do you really have any 4K HDR content..true content..most likely not.
ashmac to paulrwarner
17 Nov 16#23
bang on the money
this is what im doin ...yes the tv is stunning but spending 1k on a full hd ...mental
HellRazer
17 Nov 16#20
So tempted! Don't think I'd be able to get away with spending near £1K on a TV though :disappointed: Might've taken my chances with the Amazon Warehouse one if it was still available.
plumberman56
17 Nov 16#19
Rs do have a few in the shops, but i do not think they will match the price due to the 1 year guarantee with amazon? think it has to be 5 year with the seller?
ashmac
17 Nov 162#18
always wnated this tv till i seen the 4k oled lg b6
inoxx
17 Nov 162#17
got this for £999 a few months ago. best purchase I've made. truly stunning!
mmurdoch
17 Nov 161#16
I've been following this model a while and from what I've read and seen this tv is the dogs ****, anyone that thinks there Argos 4K or any other 4K (apart from OLED) is superior to this must be on crack.
Yes it's not bang perfect but for replacing plasma it's best your going to get troops.
I'll await 4K and HDR is better comments ha ha ha
Only 1 year tho is poor but its first time I've seen it this low, Currys were asking £1300 ish a while ago and richer sounds are out of stock now
FearOne
17 Nov 161#14
I'm sure it's perfectly fine provided the viewing distance is right.
Unfortunately some will be sitting 2m from it, A bit like putting 20" wheels on a super mini.
treb
17 Nov 164#8
I have this TV, its absolutely amazing, i'm not joking when i tell you it beats virtually every 4k TV i've seen, everything is vibrant on it. The colours are to die for. It's simply 10/10 and a steal for this price.
ashmac to treb
17 Nov 161#13
not better than the oled 4k model
FearOne
17 Nov 16#11
Is it like 1ppi?
ezzer72 to FearOne
17 Nov 161#12
No, 40ppi
4K is 79ppi
killabyte
17 Nov 16#10
Does sky q come free with this? I'm sure lg have a deal with sky for free years subscription for sky q
treb
17 Nov 16#9
Voted HOT!
plumberman56
17 Nov 16#6
what im saying is when you unbox the TV you dont want any nasty surprises?? (cracked screen) then is all the bother of getting it send back
Monkey nuts 2
17 Nov 161#5
I was looking at the warehouse deals one earlier today, listed at £825 with the £50 discount applied. Decided against it as warehouse deals are always a gamble. :man:
benjam1n
17 Nov 16#4
does look like an excellent tv if you can live without 4k and hdr. And don't mind the 150 nits brightness.
Opening post
Just as the folks would say on the Reddit in the PC areas...Just master race things :wink:..this is the 1080p master race
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Simply put, OLED is by *far* the best tv tech around it has perfect blacks, great motion and 180 degree viewing angles with no loss of quality at extreme angles.
I have recently bought a PS4 pro, I have a PC with a pretty powerful GTX1080 and I7 6700K so I am about as 4K ready as you can possibly be. 4K is a huge fad, nothing runs it, content which is not 4k gets scaled and running native resolutions even puts a lot of strain on high end PCs. Media boxes don't support 4K and streamed 4k is barely better than an original 1080p Bluray disk AND this is all at 65" at around 4 meters away.
On this basis, I would highly recommend this television ignore the fact it isn't 4k and enjoy one of the best pictures available for the price!
My first 4k TV was 55" and i mostly watched 1080i (and lower) broadcasts on it, blurays were of course 1080p
and Netlix doesn't have a massive amount of 4k stuff tbh, so i was barely seeing anything in 4k. What a waste!
There is 4k bluray now and it is ridden with DRM thanks to AACS 2.0, and little chance they will allow PC playback anytime soon, all helping to hamper sales and there are very few 4k broadcasts, will be a good few years yet before this becomes 'standard'.
The problem is people are spending 1k on a poor 4k TV, this TV will outshine most budget 4k LED TV's, it's as simple as that.
Also, they keep finding ways of making your TV obsolete, this time round it's HDR, what next Ultra HDR? then 8k, the technology moves much faster than the content.
This is a 1080p set, why drone on about 4k when it's not relevant to this deal?
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Agree with the timing and I'd like to think people do their research before dropping a grand on anything, but like I said before, this tv will still work fine in 5 years since when has the concept of future proof ever existing in technology?
In 5 years you'll be saying the same thing about HDMI 3, 8K and HDR40 etc. etc.
You buy a TV primarily for the picture quality and the quality of the picture is future proof.
Mainly used for kids cartoons, and when they go sleep, daddy comes out to watch Match of the Day, Netflix and PC gaming. Is OLED response times good? I think mine is 5ms, but very nice to game on.... no complaints there.
The picture was truly stunning. Jaw dropping in fact.
I'd buy this like a shot, but 55" is just too big in our small living room, wish they did a smaller one.
see Faux-K:- http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/rgbw-201510084189.htm
If you are after a 4K TV, at least buy a true 4K one that can do the full colour range on every pixel.
Once you go OLED you will not go back. Go to Currys and see if you can compare a OLED 1080p to any 4K led taking into account your actual distance from the TV in your room and you will see there is no comparison, and that is with perfect 4K input to the 4K TV.
A couple of remarks. Yes you see pixels if you are close, but I am not close enough so it doesn't bother me. In relation to watching sports. I was watching a rugby match the other day, the HD picture (and broadcast of course) was so good that you actually felt you were on the pitch. Watching SD content on this TV is heart breaking though if you compare to the HD version(especially cartoons). I didn't have that with the plasma, the difference on plasma was not as noticable.
In relation to amazon, 1 yr warranty.. I got this TV and it was badly damaged in transit ( very badly), it took a week to replace and get the damaged one picked up. I was extremely angry and disappointed at the time, but now 2-3 months later, it is water under the bridge... Would I buy something like this from amazon again.. I guess if the price is indeed almost 25% less than elsewhere, yes.. 1 yr warranty : You can buy additional through amazon, but with most electronic items (at least in my experience) , if it breaks , it breaks within days or weeks of purchase. Then there is always EU regulation that offers protection as well..
Saying this is obsolete seems silly to me; the content is barely there for 4K HDR. Furthermore, even when that content becomes more available, you're still going to have access to plenty of 1080p content, and let's be honest - the difference between 1080p and 4K on a 55" set is not comparable to the old days of going from SD to HD.
People are still paying very good money for used Kuros and Panasonic ZT65s.
Try turning all enhancers off.
Additionally, you state I am not speaking the truth - I own this set. Almost everything I watch blows me away and makes me want to watch stuff I 've seen before again on this set. I might add that I usually wouldnt watch things if seen before.
Some still own and use their CRT' and plasma's and use them to this day.
Today you would expect every single channel thats broadcast is done so in HD - they aren't and thats a fact.
Many Pioneer Kuro owners moved to Oled, some are still very happy with their sets. Are Kuro sets crap now because 4k is very heavily marketed?
This set will be fine in 5 years - with DV/HDR teathing issues, what will the next 4k tech be?
You will then have to buy a newer 4k set anyway.
Anyway, OOS at that price so I will have to wait for a Black Friday deal on a TV as good as my old Panasonic Plasma!
My first 4k TV was 55" and i mostly watched 1080i (and lower) broadcasts on it, blurays were of course 1080p
and Netlix doesn't have a massive amount of 4k stuff tbh, so i was barely seeing anything in 4k. What a waste!
There is 4k bluray now and it is ridden with DRM thanks to AACS 2.0, and little chance they will allow PC playback anytime soon, all helping to hamper sales and there are very few 4k broadcasts, will be a good few years yet before this becomes 'standard'.
The problem is people are spending 1k on a poor 4k TV, this TV will outshine most budget 4k LED TV's, it's as simple as that.
Also, they keep finding ways of making your TV obsolete, this time round it's HDR, what next Ultra HDR? then 8k, the technology moves much faster than the content.
£899-
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-55uh850v-smart-3d-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-55-led-tv-10144280-pdt.html
Or the non 3D version for £599-
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-55uh668v-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-55-led-tv-10144760-pdt.html
I guess it ultimately comes down to use and viewing distance, but I was making this same argument about 6 or 7 years ago against 1080p panels at the time when people *had* to have 1080p screens at around 27-32" in size.
The difference now is we have a night and day difference in display technologies, previously we had LCD and Plasma which were better in different respects. In this case though LCD really is a bad technology compared with OLED, it really is vastly superior in all respects.
As for Black Friday, i very much doubt any 4k OLED TV's will have significant discounts, they are very difficult to manufacture and LG have the market cornered on this technology, 4k & OLED is what most people ideally want, why would they need to drop prices?
You may be able to find a 4k LCD/LED TV for a good bargain though as the market is flooded with various brands
It's all well and good saying no 4k or hdr content is around at the minute. The speed things are progressing..and which more high quality content is being released is accelerating. Soon every major channel will be 4k..every TV show shot in 4k....every stream will be 4k...every youtuber will be 4k..every film will be 4k...every major gaming console will be 4k
Today this TV won't be beat..
In a year or two you might be regretting it's 1080p...in 5 years you definitely will.
This is a great TV that you would spend £1k because it has a stunning picture, but is not future proof.
Finally we are a couple of weeks shy of black Friday...now is not the time to buy.
I await the "1080p is enough" fanboy hatred
Motion blur is minimal
Are you saying 4k/8k came about due to pixel size? You forget we aren't in Japan and also dont have 2Gb/s internet either.
The fact is, this Oled will to an extent make all content look better. The sticking point being poor broadcasts will still look poor.
HDMI 2.0 offers higher bandwidth but that doesn't instantly result in a better picture The specification is designed to carry 4k at 60hz, but since this television doesn't display 4k that is absolutely irrelevant.
The alternative to this is a 4K LCD but the display tech in this absolutely smashes and pounds LCDs at any resolution, maybe the Samsung K7000 4K series is about the best alternative for the money but certainly doesn't compare with this even with the difference in resolution.
...In essence you're saying "hey pick this girl because shes ok at everything but not perfect" as apposed to saying "hey get this one because she's the gold standard at what you do and you'll always be left pleased"
And to answer your question, OLED 1080p EVERY time....Like I said, go to Currys or somewhere and put Dark Knight on a USB stick, play it on a 1080p OLED and then play the EXACT same on say a £1000 Bravia with your HDR and gimmicks and you can't honestly sit next to your keyboard and tell me it doesn't look better on an OLED.
FYI for Reference, Play the Hong Kong scene of the Dark Knight :wink:...Get blacks, greys, reds, blues.,.the lot...
Excellent TV, OLED is in a league of it's own. Movies look spectacular and even everyday mundane shows like X Factor or the Chase look breathtaking.
4K and HDR is the future yes, but we're still not there yet and these won't be incompatible with anything. There's no mandatory 4k, Sky, consoles and any other source will still work perfectly and give a great picture.
When was the last time a new version of HDMI or HDCP actually forced anyone to upgrade their TV?
There a plenty of 4k screens on the market with a massively inferior build quality and image quality to these.
Simply put, OLED is by *far* the best tv tech around it has perfect blacks, great motion and 180 degree viewing angles with no loss of quality at extreme angles.
I have recently bought a PS4 pro, I have a PC with a pretty powerful GTX1080 and I7 6700K so I am about as 4K ready as you can possibly be. 4K is a huge fad, nothing runs it, content which is not 4k gets scaled and running native resolutions even puts a lot of strain on high end PCs. Media boxes don't support 4K and streamed 4k is barely better than an original 1080p Bluray disk AND this is all at 65" at around 4 meters away.
On this basis, I would highly recommend this television ignore the fact it isn't 4k and enjoy one of the best pictures available for the price!
Why would I invest in 4K if the standards aren't set yet?...You look at all the different standards including HDR..you can't future proof anything in 4K..
If you watch any standard blu ray film or stream (which lets face it, most of us do in 1080 here, not 4K, 4K 3D, etc, you WILL notice a difference between OLED and a LCD panel at 1080p.
In my eyes if you need a TV for RIGHT now, you get the best 1080p you can get Kuro, VIERA TX-50CX802B or OLED...If you must have 4K for some reason, you're walking into a period of uncertainty where you don't know if Dolby Vision is the new standard or HDR 10, or what constitutes as Ultra HD.
I play Dark Knight movie on my Kuro and everyone is in awe...my mate plays it on his Bravia X85..The blacks look grey....Just saying...
This is a 1080p set, why drone on about 4k when it's not relevant to this deal?
Then you've got the issue with the content available, everybody isn't going to go out to re-obtain their entire collection are they...then you've got the issue with streaming services not really doing a true 4K experience...Yes its compressed...and its not THAT bad but if you're buying a 4K tv surely you want a proper 4K experience not a sort of 4K....Just saying.
The colour reproduction on this more than compensates for the lack of 4K.
YouTube/Amazon/Netflix is compressed 4K
...Do you really have any 4K HDR content..true content..most likely not.
this is what im doin ...yes the tv is stunning but spending 1k on a full hd ...mental
Yes it's not bang perfect but for replacing plasma it's best your going to get troops.
I'll await 4K and HDR is better comments ha ha ha
Only 1 year tho is poor but its first time I've seen it this low, Currys were asking £1300 ish a while ago and richer sounds are out of stock now
Unfortunately some will be sitting 2m from it, A bit like putting 20" wheels on a super mini.
4K is 79ppi