No arguments about 10 bit vs 8 bit here as this is a FULL HD set! Handy for anyone not watching 4k which is just about everyone.
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PAL
26 Nov 165#11
perfect TV in every way. makes SD quality look amazing. HD and bluray are crazy quality. kodi / streaming is sublime. The quality of the blacks would destroy any other format of TV. UHD/4k is useless unless to sit at a specified distance versus are specified screen size. do your research people. ......
benjam1n to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 165#16
the Samsung is great but why do you care if the guy wants an oled, they are awesome tvs. And ranting on about 4k when most people have no 4k content even. It's his choice and seems like a perfectly acceptable one.
rickj
26 Nov 164#49
Sensational TV .love the comment from guy comparing in a TV retailer who have them switched to demo mode where everything is saturated.You get superb HD pics on all HD channels not just a few uhd ones .
I bought it spring this year on a price match from JL and every single person has commented on picture quality even friends with 4k TVs .Its covered for 5 years so no worries there.As a bonus its also the best looking TV on or Off.
ashmac
26 Nov 163#27
see for me ive looked into it comming from a high emd plamsa pansonic led/lcd is not an option
so im going for the b6 65 " sat about 7 feet ive actually messaured it then im getting 4k netflix a uhd player to watch it in proper 4k and virgins new 4k tivo i have 200 meg bb
if your going to get 4k you have to get the best from it other wise dont bother.
Latest comments (114)
hukd_addict
8 Dec 16#114
Try and look at this both ways...
For ppl wanting a new tv, this is a great deal. Yes, most ppl are after the latest and greatest myself included, however you cannot deny the sheer amount of HD material out there right now. This tv is relevant now and will be for 2-3 years minimum, and still relevant after that! Full HD is a FANTASTIC picture don't forget, we're not talking vhs or even DVD quality here.
With the price of TVs being what they are right now, for something better than a "standard" led LCD, which is truly old tech now, your paying £1k for a quantum dot level display. This is OLED, the pinnacle of display technology (yes it really is!) and ur getting one you can fully use right now, right out of the box.
HDR ATM is basically meaningless in one respect, why? Because the BBC and NHK have just developed a new HDR standard (forget the name look it up) which will be used for tv broadcasting, and it's not clear if existing HDR sets can be upgraded. I wanted the 65b6, my money is staying in my pocket for a while yet while this new standard is ratified.
This is a smart buy IMO. To fully benefit now there is nothing that beats it... hell im considering it now writing this. I do actually believe these sets do HDR on Netflix and amazon only, could be a different model though. Resale used probably should hold up well considering these are somewhat rarer than LCD. Hmmmm....
colstar
1 Dec 16#113
I thought as much. Cheers mate.
SpamJavelin
1 Dec 16#112
There isn't one.
colstar
1 Dec 16#111
I am on the verge of biting on a none 4k Oled TV (As I won't need one for a bloody long time). I know that some one has asked but doe's anyone know a flat Oled such as this TV that is as cheap and good as this one?
Vespa123
30 Nov 16#110
I have this TV and can honestly say it's the best purchase I have ever made. Picture is amazing and blows other TVs out the water.
foxrocks
27 Nov 16#109
Blimey, that's a real bargain at £879.
gunark
27 Nov 161#108
I did worry that I'd find it stuffed into the neighbours letterbox.
afroylnt
27 Nov 161#107
At least it woud be hard for the yodel courier to through it over a fence....
DweebDude
27 Nov 16#93
This will still look better, doesn't matter how many pixels you put on that Samsung. You can't even start to compare a mid range edge lit LED TV to this
crofter to DweebDude
27 Nov 16#106
Good catch - but maybe they took the extra £100 off simply on the fact that Yodel are booked in to deliver the TV ... not sure I would fancy that.:confused:
gunark
27 Nov 16#105
I was very lucky and caught it at a time where it dropped for ten mins and went back up.
foxrocks
27 Nov 16#104
It was £979 last week at Amazon wasn't it, not £879? Camelcamelcamel lists £979 as the lowest ever price.
afroylnt
27 Nov 161#103
and for owners of 4k non-OLED TVs you probaly don't reconise the film title as you probbaly know it as 'Darkish Grey Knight'...... :stuck_out_tongue:
plumberman56
27 Nov 16#102
Yes I missed the Amazon deal, went to get my card to pay and it had gone back up in price (gutted) does look a great TV
gunark
27 Nov 161#101
Grabbed this for £879 from Amazon themselves last week, a very brief price drop. Replaced a damaged CX700 4K and was initially totally sold on the KU7000. However despite the lower resolution and lack of HDR, the EG910v comfortably showed up all LCD panels side by side in the shops. It may not have HDR or the supposed wider colour gamut but frankly I've seen more contrast and richer colours with this TV than any LCD/LED and even the ST60 plasma I've owned in the past. I couldn't, with any confidence, buy an alternative set instead, especially as I didn't relish the LED 'fun' of finding a set without light pooling, bleeding or DSE.
As they say, take something like Gravity as test, and unless it's OLED or FALD, few sets will be able to handle the extreme contrasts.
slannmage
27 Nov 16#100
all TVs are bad at sad content these days, I haven't seen a tv that handles it well. Google ossc and buy one of those, it upscale so well for a cheap price and has no input lag.
slannmage
27 Nov 16#99
Input lag is mediocre at around 50ms and 110 outside of gaming mode, but motion is good if you watch sports.
daveykinetic
27 Nov 16#98
is the input lag bad on this TV for gaming?
Jaybeam
27 Nov 16#97
Can I ask a question. I've tried to record a standard def video from my Humax onto a memory stick to try out SD on 4K TVs in shops, however, the file has recorded in .mpeg2-ts form. Will new TVs recognise this extension or am I doing something wrong? Thanx
ajavaid92
27 Nov 16#95
No, Grand Tour in HDR is mint. Absolutely spectacular.
Tech_Addict to ajavaid92
27 Nov 161#96
I have this set and a Panny VT65 65" both are ISF calibrated and the blacks are better on the VT, yes the Oled can go darker but the Panny does a much better job at picking out the small details.
If I'm watching a movie it's on the plasma
Jawz
27 Nov 161#94
Having owned my 51 Samsung ps51e6500 Plasma for the last few years.. (just checked email, been 4years, time goes quick)
Was a steal at £729 at the time I bough it.
Now it's a shame that resale value on TVs is so low and that I already have a Sony 42 in my bedroom, with no space for bigger (fits in an alcove)
I'm just wondering in the last 4 years, how tv's have improved. I'm thinking maybe we are in a gap and some greater improvement is around the corner to blow everything out of the water. But technology moves fast and also companies like to drip feed us with slightly better products to tempt us to buy like sheep (Im looking at you Apple!)
I sit around 10 feet away from my Tv and think my eyes are deteriorating a little as the Sky menu is a little blur for writing...HD loos like what I remember standard to be.
Anyways it's 4:30am and I'm waffling to myself.
What I'm trying to ask, is what Tv is best out there for max £1,500?
Where can I get a good read of all the confusing Samsung models.
Also back when I got my Samsung Plasma, it was the standout best value for money buy and many on forums bought them (Though more bought 60 version)
I know if I upgrade I deffo want a wow factor again as eyes are used to 51inch so would like a bigger impact.
I use TV for mainly Sky and PS4 (Don't have pro)
Hope anyone reading is not bored and can help in some way.
Thanks in advance,
Jaws
noss88
27 Nov 16#92
Oled is always better 4K will be standard in next 3-4 years minimum hah...
benjam1n
27 Nov 16#91
wow amazon should just dump the marketplace. I'm am so never buying anything from a marketplace seller ever again. Not that I make a habit of it anyway. But sick of all the various scams going on, it's a joke. I don't get how amazon can ignore it. Will ruin their reputation if they don't get a handle on it. Every product I look at has some seller asking for gift cards or "contact me at osbcured email to order". Granted they can't help it if someone gets hacked (at least I'm guessing it wasn't Amazon's fault). But they don't seem to be doing a great job in general. I hope they offer the option to just hide marketplace if you want to. I read about an addon which does something like that for firefox.
reggie1888
27 Nov 16#90
Great tv bought it a few months ago. Only ever watch freeview had and is excellent :smiley:
mrhavana
27 Nov 161#89
I don't have Netflix, Amazon or Sky so 4K is not just pointless, it's awful. I had a look at SD content in store on a lots of 4K TVs and the image quality was pretty poor. This is understandable because of the limitation trying to upscale SD content to 4K rather than a criticism. HD content doesn't look any better on a 4K screen than a comparable FHD screen to my eyes either so FHD is actually a better choice for some of us.
BTW, I'm not poor, I just find I already have more than enough content to watch without subscribing to yet more channels. I'm delighted you're happy with 4K, but please stop trying to justify it as essential for everyone.
steviedee
27 Nov 16#88
You drunk :wink:
SpencerUk
26 Nov 161#87
Doesn't matter what anyone says, the KS7000 will NEVER compete on black level of an OLED. That is fact.
I'm still of the belief;
• If you're a Kuro owner, you're natural progression is an OLED Tv
• If you absolutely must have 4K tv, then you get an OLED because it has both Dolby Vision and HDR 10. One of them is going to be the standard.
• If you want to hold off 4K for it to mature, you need to look at your budget..sub £550 get the Panasonic D700...if you want below £800, Samsung KS7000, below £1000 look for any OLED
• You need to view something like Dark Knight on the TVs which shows great contrast and blacks..take a USB stick and test
afroylnt
26 Nov 162#86
No; buy the TV for the type of watching you do. So to buy 4k you have to be one of the following ;
- you have fast broadband and pay for quality 4k feeds
- you spend allot time playing a 4k conpatible gamestation or watching 4k blu-rays on an expensive 4k blue-ray player..
- gullible or just believe all the marketing bull*** you ever read or
- prefer a non uniform blacklight
Everyone else buy OLED or buy a cheap LCD and wait until OLED gets cheaper......
mivanpy
26 Nov 161#85
Heat for oled and full HD and great price wish i could justify a purchase.
slannmage
26 Nov 161#84
This is the arguement... "I'm too poor for the 4K oled, I'll buy the 1080p oled instead"... the you make up all kinds of excuses to why somehow 4K sucks. Just buy an LCD 4K tv like the ks7000 or spend the extra 1000 for the 4K oled.
Don't buy the obsolete 1070p oled just because it's oled.
crofter
26 Nov 16#83
Lol - Kodi looks sublime on a 4K TV ... pull the other one fella. Even if you pay for an IPTV service it will not look anywhere near sublime unless your idea of sublime is watered down low-bitrate 720p/1080i ****.
PAL
26 Nov 16#82
I tested this set along a ks8000 at richer sounds. The samsungs inability to upscale so was shocking. Not saying the Samsung is a bad TV, but it's no where near the all rounder in terms of quality the 910v has.
plumberman56
26 Nov 16#81
Dear customer, sorry for the churn. We do not offer this product LG Oled TV,nor do we sell on Amazon UK. We retail mattresses, duvets and pillows in Germany and France.
On Saturday our Amazon account has hacked and we are still investigating the root cause. As a result we got hundreds of orders for products we had never offered and which were centrally cancelled by Amazon. I am sorry this causes you trouble. We lost accumulated 60k € in sales already from this issue. I propose you order the product again with a different Seller.
Sorry again, please do not negatively rate us as a Seller from this. It already is a severe issue for us and currently threatening our business heavily.
Thx for understanding.
Best regards,
Andreas Peerenboom
Sleepling Managing Director
--- Original message ---
Item: LG 55EG910V 55 inch 1080p Full HD OLED Curved Smart TV WebOS (2015 Model) - Silver [Electronics] [ASIN: B015E8Q8XA]
plumberman56
26 Nov 16#80
Dear customer, sorry for the churn. We do not offer this product LG Oled TV,nor do we sell on Amazon UK. We retail mattresses, duvets and pillows in Germany and France.
On Saturday our Amazon account has hacked and we are still investigating the root cause. As a result we got hundreds of orders for products we had never offered and which were centrally cancelled by Amazon. I am sorry this causes you trouble. We lost accumulated 60k € in sales already from this issue. I propose you order the product again with a different Seller.
Sorry again, please do not negatively rate us as a Seller from this. It already is a severe issue for us and currently threatening our business heavily.
Thx for understanding.
Best regards,
Andreas Peerenboom
Sleepling Managing Director
--- Original message ---
Item: LG 55EG910V 55 inch 1080p Full HD OLED Curved Smart TV WebOS (2015 Model) - Silver [Electronics] [ASIN: B015E8Q8XA]
PAL
26 Nov 16#79
stop using cr4p Internet then mate. If you have decent fibre Kodi looks stunning on this TV.
plumberman56
26 Nov 16#78
Had an e-mail from a seller say they had there business hacked on Amazon, and they do not sell TVS. Told Amazon and they wasnt even interested and sald dont worry if you do get scammed you are covered with there A-Z cover. what a joke :smiley:
Scotsmania
26 Nov 161#77
Any seller that is "Just Launched" with a too good to be true price is a scammer.
killabyte
26 Nov 161#76
scammers, i got scammed but amazon know about it and have offered me a refund :smiley:
plumberman56
26 Nov 16#75
does anyone know anything about the sellers on Amazon selling this TV. Very cheap from Germany, Have to say they look like scammers to me? £799 + del
ashmac
26 Nov 16#74
cant argee with you here as your whole comment on oled is what you seen in a shop which may have been the wrong settings etc..
no mention of poor motion and light bleed grey blacks on led/lcd?? or are they brillaint also
Scotsmania
26 Nov 161#73
That is true but there aren't anywhere near the same amount of people running out and buying a PS4 pro as there were for the normal PS4.
Outside of consoles and Netflix/Amazon own made TV shows it's unlikely that 4K will be common place for a good few years. Most people use their TV's to watch TV and neither cable nor satellite are anywhere close to being able to broadcast 4k channels, they can barely even do 1080p. The only 4k they currently provide is via on demand.
Don't get me wrong i myself just bought a Samsung KS7000 but for the majority of people a 1080p OLED would be a better buy for right now and a 4k/8k or whatever in 5 years time.
bibbouk
26 Nov 16#72
An awful lot of people play console games on their TVs, even if they dont have a 4k console now they will possibly get one in the next couple of years. If you spend 1000 pounds on a TV you will probably keep it for 5+ years, full hd is a bit of a gamble at this price.
5meodmt
26 Nov 16#71
I don't watch to much TV bout. if I would buy any TV now would choice oled over resolution any time.
hiky0
26 Nov 16#70
LED old technology tarted up with 4k or OLED the future
afroylnt
26 Nov 16#69
If you read my post it said for most people without 4K feeds. Most people don't play 4k feed games on there TV. You do, so good for you.
bibbouk
26 Nov 16#68
Do you realise that this is simply your opinion not fact. Different people have different needs and preferences. I just bought a PS4 pro and 4k games are significantly better than 1080p on my 50 inch TV. For this reason I wouldn't even consider buying a full HD set.
crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 16#67
Exactly this tv is last years oled, the 1st of the oled , there will be loads of flaws and they will sort them over the years. So it's either
Last years oled 1080p
Or
Samsungs 2nd top ultra hd flat tv from 2016 for same price.
No screen burn nothing and 1080p looks class on anyway .
slannmage
26 Nov 16#66
Yes and I looked at the ks7000 vs the lg oled bv6 (I think it was), it was 4K any ways and I still picked the Samsung. I picked it for one reason as they were showing mad max, in all the darks the detail was lost, we tried different settings and it still did it. Although the blacks weren't as black, they're still great in normal viewing, I liked the brightness at 4 under natural light conditions, but hdr obviously boosts them.
I took a quick picture but the moving image on tv confused my phone focus. That's my setup and I see a massive difference between 1080p and 4K, things just look like you're looking out of a window.
I could afford the oled but it wasn't worth the extra 1000, instead I decided to save the extra cash.
Remember that's comparing the 4K, the oled tv is just irrelevant at this point
I have seen both the KS7500 and this TV at richer sounds in their test room and the difference is HUGE when viewing a 4k blu ray. There is no comparison at all. To see a ridiculously bright light shining in a room, with a shadow on the far side of the room still being black is a sight to behold.
We had to turn the lights down to make the OLED really pop due to the low max brightness. With the Samsung KS7500 we just upped the brightness a bit and it looked just as good as with the lights down.
They made massive strides with OLED this year. Especially with two of the bigger flaws with OLED - Screen burn in and longevity. This TV will not take advantage of either strides and so screen burn in (though not usually permanent with OLED screens), will happen a lot more commonly.
Day to day the OLED may look better as long as you mostly watch in the evening and stick to normal HD stuff coming from freeview or sky but in terms of capability there is no real comparison. 720p or 1080p content in a light controlled room - the OLED looks slightly better. In terms of the future - the OLED will look old a lot faster!
Needless to say I'm the owner of a KS7500 now.
BustaLinx
26 Nov 16#63
Anyone price match with a longer warranty?
Sqsq
26 Nov 16#62
So glad I still have my trusty 55VT65B. I absolutely do not feel the need to "upgrade" - the picture is simply stunning already.
But back in the UK, realistically a lot of my TV viewing is still SD broadcasting. So when I see the UHDTV demos in stores (and I agree they do look great) I ask them to switch to BBC News in SD (Freeview channel 130). This shows how well the TV upscales SD broadcasts. This is my go-to test that any new TV must excel in. Most TV's are rubbish at this.
Of course BBC News HD looks great but that's not the point :wink:
afroylnt
26 Nov 161#61
I wonder if its actually better to pretend to be one of the '4k knobs' and **** this TV off; then the price should drop and I can get one...
nao
26 Nov 16#60
Have this in second room. Fantastic TV. Recommended
ciamcool
26 Nov 162#59
Does your name have four or five z's? :stuck_out_tongue:
hiky0
26 Nov 161#58
here no such thing as future proof as soon as some thing comes out the next thing is around the corner. i simple that the best picture for free-view , 1080p for a grand. ks7000 £1000 or a OLED a £2000 tv last year for £1000 and purely on picture for day to day use with free-view and 1080p the OLED wins.
afroylnt
26 Nov 161#57
or too just intelligent..
sucramco
26 Nov 16#56
why oh why... at a grand KS7000, and I have the OLEDb55v. But I wouldn't be so stupid as to go backwards
Scotsmania
26 Nov 161#55
1990 called and wants it's socket back. Copy down the recommended base settings from AVforums for each set so you can compare them properly or at the very least turn off all the processing options, also dont forget to take some files on a thumb drive that represent the type of content you would normally watch.
MattyNeth
26 Nov 16#54
Does it have SCART?
foxrocks
26 Nov 162#53
Very tempted by this, like a lot of people I don't really have any 4K source: got a normal PS4; Netflix, Amazon etc but insufficient bandwidth for 4K; I do use the TV with a PC but if I go 4K then I'm either going to have to downscale games, or get a GTX 1080 for £600+, whereas sticking with 1080p means my GTX 970 will be fine for now; and my receiver while 4K capable doesn't do HDR. In all other respects I'm not ready for 4K content, so why bother with a 4K telly right now?
Regarding future-proofing, 1080p content will still be around for years to come. This TV isn't suddenly going to become useless in a couple of years just because 4K content has become more readily available. While not quite as bad as the gaming PC market, there's always some new TV tech around the corner, and future-proofing is largely a fool's errand IMO. Get what suits your needs now.
MrFlux001
26 Nov 16#52
What's the input lag like?
Yiddo4life
26 Nov 16#51
I'm off to richer sounds see if they can show me the 2 sets lol ks7000 and this
hiky0
26 Nov 162#50
Order this over a ks8000 simple because 99% of the time I watch virgin media which is only 1080p. So I have no use for 4k and this time next you will be arguing over 4k v 8k
rickj
26 Nov 164#49
Sensational TV .love the comment from guy comparing in a TV retailer who have them switched to demo mode where everything is saturated.You get superb HD pics on all HD channels not just a few uhd ones .
I bought it spring this year on a price match from JL and every single person has commented on picture quality even friends with 4k TVs .Its covered for 5 years so no worries there.As a bonus its also the best looking TV on or Off.
crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 16#48
At least spell my name right it's crazzzzy_b
crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 16#47
What series Samsung?
Peamarshy77
26 Nov 16#46
Cold not 12 bit :wink:
Jaybeam
26 Nov 161#45
Just another point about viewing position. Most if not all these high (nit) LCD TVs are VA panels and I've read that the viewing angle is 20 degrees so if you don't sit straight on you have colour problems.
snoopy18
26 Nov 16#44
That goes against what I've read, I thought sd was not very good on these
Jaybeam
26 Nov 162#43
KS 7000 doesn't reach 1400nits- up to 1000nits at best and that depends on the what you're looking at. I repeat have a look at avforums USER threads not reviews then make comments
Sniffer77
26 Nov 16#42
Just ordered my 60"ks7000 , I may have returned it for this but as i have to wallmounted I'd need a new wall bracket too . Can't be bothered with hassle of getting one and making mess of newly decorated room. Plus isn't it a expensive bracket ?
As for the tv it does seem a good price to be fair for a cracking tv
puzl
26 Nov 16#41
I love OLED, but I hope you guys enjoy image retention. I used to use one of these for my main TV (which is also hooked up to my PC half the time) and I simply got sick of having the windows taskbar retained in the image when going into full-screen games/movies. It does go away, but just like plasma, it does get very, very tiring having to deal with it. The higher input delay is also a problem for gamers.
I decided to sell mine and go with the KS7000. HDR makes a FAR bigger impact than resolution. No, the blacks aren't as deep, but the combination of insane brightness and 10bit wider color gamut gives the screen just as much impact, in a different sort of way to OLED. It's also half the price.
slannmage
26 Nov 162#40
So funny how people are shunning 4K, it's like people shunning 1080p back in the day. No 4K is happening and it looks so much better and sharper, such a myth about distance or screen size, I have a 27 inch iMac that I sit like 2ft from and it looks worlds apart from my 1080p 24 inch monitor... for one I can fit 4 window on one screen and read everything, where the 1080p screen can only display one.
Also modern lcds like the ks7000 can get to 1400nits, this things gets to only 330nits.... which means it sucks for daytime viewing and it sucks for HDR... which is basically a wide colour gamut that essentially this to doesn't have.
The other good thing about 4K is how much more pixel dense they are, things look like print. However this tv has such big pixels, you can see them from a mile away, it just looks so cheap and nasty like an iPhone 3GS vs iPhone 4 when we finally jumped to the retina screen.
Don't waste your money, go to the store and see a ks7000 vs even a 4K oled and they looks practically identical. The only difference I see is the lg oleds are more saturated, I found them to be too saturated where people's face are all orange. Also the lg oled 4k tv I saw lost a lot of detail in th blacks, where the mucher brighter ks7000 showed a lot more detail. Oled isn't perfect, it has a lot of problems like image retention and how fast they fade, put your oled phone that's 2nyears old up against a brand new one and you'll see how much yours has faded. If you want a tv for 5 years, oled jus isn't reliable enough....
Maybe you don't buy a tv this year, maybe wait for next year when the lcds will all be full array backlit. Then you see the advantage of oled gone as those TVs almost look as black as the oleds but have the advantage of LCD. Standards aren't sitting around, LCD has come a long way, just like how oled has come a long way, one isn't better than the other... but right now I'm bored of oled being sold to people in a lie.
Don't buy this tv, 4K is the future, if you cannot afford a 4K oled, then buy a tv like the ks7000.
If you play games then definitely get 4K, if you watch Netflix or Amazon prime then definitely get 4K, if you watch blu-rays then get 4K, if you want to use it as a monitor or web browser, get 4K. If you watch a lot of YouTube then get a 4K, only terrestrial uk tv is stuck on 720p... but that's not a good reason to stay in the past, even the BBC are upgrading to 4K.
The only reason to stick to 1080p is because you're too poor for the proper 4K oled.
crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 16#13
Ashmac so why hasn't it won a single best tv in its category this year and Samsung won it on just about every website ? It can't be better can it if no one rated it the best tv. People being suckered into the oled hype.
Scotsmania to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 162#15
Unless i'm mistaken this TV came out at the end of 2015 which is why its not listed in the articles you've been looking at.
The only downside to this TV over the KS7000 is no HDR, other than that in 99% of the content you'd be watching it will look better than the Samsung in every way. Other than a handful of shows/movies on netflix + amazon and bluray almost everything else you'll be watching for the next few years to come will be 1080p or lower anyway.
ashmac to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 16#17
why il tell you because its an old tv from last year why would the put a 2015 set against a 2016 set
ashmac to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 16#20
oled over hype are you mental?
e6 lg oled is the best tv this year hands down that people can afford
afroylnt to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 161#39
4K is for now mostly marketing and a feature that is well down the list against OLED and true HDR. HDR is a challenge as there is little content out there for it. Think of it this way 4k grey is still 4k grey but full HD OLED gives blacks not greys.
Can't have reviewers stating 4k is not a great feature to have; its driving the vast amount of TV sales right now and it also drives people to want to buy 4k feeds - more money for the industry.
This is TV is not perfect but still better for most people than any other equivalent priced TV. If for some reason you will be watching just about all of your viewing in 4k and sit quite close to your TV then yes it won't be the best. But for allot of people with no 4k feeds it simply is.
PAL
26 Nov 165#11
perfect TV in every way. makes SD quality look amazing. HD and bluray are crazy quality. kodi / streaming is sublime. The quality of the blacks would destroy any other format of TV. UHD/4k is useless unless to sit at a specified distance versus are specified screen size. do your research people. ......
WessexUnderwater to PAL
26 Nov 16#38
What is it about this box that makes Kodi sublime? Upscaling? Mine is borderline unwatchable.
bgoldstraw
26 Nov 161#37
Ive returned three LED tv's this year all due to backlight bleed. OLED wins hands down
jrk4
26 Nov 16#36
Hi. I have been looking into getting a new tv. I sit 11.5ft away, have amazon, netflix, sky hd (not Q yet), kodi and looking at swapping my xbox one for a xbox one S (for hdr and 4k bluray player). I have been salivating over the prospect of an lg oled for a while (can probably afford 55in). Only recently have I been won over by online reviews of the ks7000 such as:
especially as I can probably afford to get the 65in Samsung model once it drops a little, it has better input lag for gaming and the viewing angle shouldn't matter as my 4/5 seat sofa faces the tv. I have been to currys to compare but worry because i cant really gauge how my various tv/gaming sources will look with upscaling. In the store I think I slightly preferred the ks7000 actually but that was only watching the provided 4k hdr source material. Perhaps a bisit to Richer Sounds is in order)
Seeing as its quite a heated debate here I thought I would request advice in the form of this annoyingly long post (Sorry!)
killabyte
26 Nov 16#33
On a serious note, can anyone price match this like curry's John Lewis that offer 5 year guarantee?
Scotsmania to killabyte
26 Nov 161#35
Richersounds sell the TV so they might but they only have it in store only so getting it at your local one might be a problem, John Lewis don't sell it, Currys do but it will probably be like getting blood out of a stone to get them to price match anywhere other than JL and RS.
alera
26 Nov 16#34
Really rate LG sets looks awesome
Vegeta
26 Nov 161#14
I'll stick with my Pioneer Kuro 9G :smile:
moneyfornothing to Vegeta
26 Nov 16#32
Ditto..... My Kuro 428 plasma (720p} from 2005 still better than all the other higher resolution tv's in the house. Apparently it's about the black palette....
Gravesy166
26 Nov 16#31
I have the 55EC930V which replaced a Samsung 4K TV which had horrible light bleed and awful blacks. Although the LG is HD only it's picture quality just is so much better than the Samsung. Don't need or miss the 4k at all and love OLED.
macdazz
26 Nov 16#28
good deal, ks7000 has poor up scaling of content the 4k revolution is like 3D and look what's happened to that! hot from me :smiley:
ashmac to macdazz
26 Nov 162#30
cant compare 3d and 4k
killabyte
26 Nov 16#29
I think it all comes down to personal preference. If you watch a lot of 4k currently then this isn't for you. If you watch a lot of HD then this is for you.
ashmac
26 Nov 163#27
see for me ive looked into it comming from a high emd plamsa pansonic led/lcd is not an option
so im going for the b6 65 " sat about 7 feet ive actually messaured it then im getting 4k netflix a uhd player to watch it in proper 4k and virgins new 4k tivo i have 200 meg bb
if your going to get 4k you have to get the best from it other wise dont bother.
Jaybeam
26 Nov 16#26
Any flat screens rather than curve?
SpamJavelin
26 Nov 162#23
I have been doing quite a bit of research these last few days trying to figure out what it the best setup for the TV I am watching now and for the next couple of years. In order to get the immersive 4K experience sitting 7ft from the screen I needed minimum 60inch, probably 65. That's if I had any quality 4K sources. Can't stream Amazon or Netflix in 4k due to bandwidth which need to be 25mbps in my experience.
Even then, 95% of my viewing would be on SD / HD and Kodi and on a 65 incher it would look rubbish (I have tested this using work's 65 inch 4k set). The decision then makes itself. Watch the TV for now on the appropriate sized screen with the right technology. This is it.
I did consider the Samsung 7000 series but it doesn't have 3D and there are some poor reviews on AVForums regarding backlighting and motion.
Jaybeam to SpamJavelin
26 Nov 16#25
You've done exactly what I've been doing mate. Absolutely agree with comments.
treb
26 Nov 163#24
These 1080p OLED sets blow all the Samsung 4k sets out of the water. less pixels or not, Buy this, watch 99% of TV in its native 1080 p resolution and smirk to yourself for many years. Then in perhaps 10 years time when most stuff is 4K buy a new set for 150 quid.
Jaybeam
26 Nov 16#22
I really hope this site gets off this 4K hype and we start looking at deals like this in Oled and getting some good prices- can we hope they will get cheaper?
crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 162#6
What's wrong with using a pc to research lol what do you do get every TV set sent to your home and spend a day on each one to compare? Or use the internet?
I bought a Samsung 55ks8000 2 weeks ago £1449. Just cos this is oled does not mean it's better picture it has 25% of the pixels lol.
It currys the £2500 oleds were next to the Samsung and I preferred the Samsung picture. Might have been lg demo was crap in space one that didn't look at that good.
Uhd is where hd was when it started, give it 6-12 months and there will be loads to watch
gr8h8me to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 162#7
Why not just buy another when the markets ready for a 4K OLED at the moment its yet another Sky addon. Picture is down to personal taste but this HD OLED is superb and well worth the £1k
donslibi to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 16#21
More like 6-12 years. There's still barely anything full HD on TV channels. Mostly 720p. By the time 4k content catches up, there'll be new technology in TVs that will make you want to buy another. 1080p OLED is the sweet spot for me. But can't justify another TV when ours is 2yrs old lol
ashmac
26 Nov 16#19
cnet
Now, to answer your questions. The fact that it's "only" 1080p and not 4K resolution shouldn't be a deal breaker for most people. Neither should its inability to handle HDR sources. It will still outperform any LED-based LCD TV we've seen overall, including the highest-end models with 4K and HDR. Then again, if you insist on your next TV having those next-generation features -- a perfectly reasonable stance, especially on a TV this expensive -- the 55EG9100 isn't for you.
But you can buy the ks7000 55 inch for £979 which is better than this as per every review I have read. With 4K
So again stupid decision. Samsung future proofed this is not. You buy oled as you want the best picture so why would you buy one that can't produce the best picture which is uhd
benjam1n to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 165#16
the Samsung is great but why do you care if the guy wants an oled, they are awesome tvs. And ranting on about 4k when most people have no 4k content even. It's his choice and seems like a perfectly acceptable one.
crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 162#2
More and more is coming on. If I was spending £1000 I would get ks7000 Samsung. Full HDR and 4K. Future proof your self you will regret this in a year or 2
gr8h8me to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 162#4
Absolute garbage. Don't know what your talking about...I've had this for a year and it replaced a Samsung. The TV is superior in every way. You've probably got a PC to research and a 26" Toshiba/ DVD combi as your main TV set
ashmac to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 163#9
belive it or not this is better than most 4k tvs baring the lg oled 4k ..
its not all about the resolution .if you knew about tvs you wouldn't have made your comment :smile:
Jaybeam to crazzzzzy_b
26 Nov 161#12
You obviously haven't read the user threads in avforums-I wouldnt touch the ks7000 with a barge pole!
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I bought it spring this year on a price match from JL and every single person has commented on picture quality even friends with 4k TVs .Its covered for 5 years so no worries there.As a bonus its also the best looking TV on or Off.
so im going for the b6 65 " sat about 7 feet ive actually messaured it then im getting 4k netflix a uhd player to watch it in proper 4k and virgins new 4k tivo i have 200 meg bb
if your going to get 4k you have to get the best from it other wise dont bother.
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For ppl wanting a new tv, this is a great deal. Yes, most ppl are after the latest and greatest myself included, however you cannot deny the sheer amount of HD material out there right now. This tv is relevant now and will be for 2-3 years minimum, and still relevant after that! Full HD is a FANTASTIC picture don't forget, we're not talking vhs or even DVD quality here.
With the price of TVs being what they are right now, for something better than a "standard" led LCD, which is truly old tech now, your paying £1k for a quantum dot level display. This is OLED, the pinnacle of display technology (yes it really is!) and ur getting one you can fully use right now, right out of the box.
HDR ATM is basically meaningless in one respect, why? Because the BBC and NHK have just developed a new HDR standard (forget the name look it up) which will be used for tv broadcasting, and it's not clear if existing HDR sets can be upgraded. I wanted the 65b6, my money is staying in my pocket for a while yet while this new standard is ratified.
This is a smart buy IMO. To fully benefit now there is nothing that beats it... hell im considering it now writing this. I do actually believe these sets do HDR on Netflix and amazon only, could be a different model though. Resale used probably should hold up well considering these are somewhat rarer than LCD. Hmmmm....
As they say, take something like Gravity as test, and unless it's OLED or FALD, few sets will be able to handle the extreme contrasts.
If I'm watching a movie it's on the plasma
Was a steal at £729 at the time I bough it.
Now it's a shame that resale value on TVs is so low and that I already have a Sony 42 in my bedroom, with no space for bigger (fits in an alcove)
I'm just wondering in the last 4 years, how tv's have improved. I'm thinking maybe we are in a gap and some greater improvement is around the corner to blow everything out of the water. But technology moves fast and also companies like to drip feed us with slightly better products to tempt us to buy like sheep (Im looking at you Apple!)
I sit around 10 feet away from my Tv and think my eyes are deteriorating a little as the Sky menu is a little blur for writing...HD loos like what I remember standard to be.
Anyways it's 4:30am and I'm waffling to myself.
What I'm trying to ask, is what Tv is best out there for max £1,500?
Where can I get a good read of all the confusing Samsung models.
Also back when I got my Samsung Plasma, it was the standout best value for money buy and many on forums bought them (Though more bought 60 version)
I know if I upgrade I deffo want a wow factor again as eyes are used to 51inch so would like a bigger impact.
I use TV for mainly Sky and PS4 (Don't have pro)
Hope anyone reading is not bored and can help in some way.
Thanks in advance,
Jaws
BTW, I'm not poor, I just find I already have more than enough content to watch without subscribing to yet more channels. I'm delighted you're happy with 4K, but please stop trying to justify it as essential for everyone.
I'm still of the belief;
• If you're a Kuro owner, you're natural progression is an OLED Tv
• If you absolutely must have 4K tv, then you get an OLED because it has both Dolby Vision and HDR 10. One of them is going to be the standard.
• If you want to hold off 4K for it to mature, you need to look at your budget..sub £550 get the Panasonic D700...if you want below £800, Samsung KS7000, below £1000 look for any OLED
• You need to view something like Dark Knight on the TVs which shows great contrast and blacks..take a USB stick and test
- you have fast broadband and pay for quality 4k feeds
- you spend allot time playing a 4k conpatible gamestation or watching 4k blu-rays on an expensive 4k blue-ray player..
- gullible or just believe all the marketing bull*** you ever read or
- prefer a non uniform blacklight
Everyone else buy OLED or buy a cheap LCD and wait until OLED gets cheaper......
Don't buy the obsolete 1070p oled just because it's oled.
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On Saturday our Amazon account has hacked and we are still investigating the root cause. As a result we got hundreds of orders for products we had never offered and which were centrally cancelled by Amazon. I am sorry this causes you trouble. We lost accumulated 60k € in sales already from this issue. I propose you order the product again with a different Seller.
Sorry again, please do not negatively rate us as a Seller from this. It already is a severe issue for us and currently threatening our business heavily.
Thx for understanding.
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no mention of poor motion and light bleed grey blacks on led/lcd?? or are they brillaint also
Outside of consoles and Netflix/Amazon own made TV shows it's unlikely that 4K will be common place for a good few years. Most people use their TV's to watch TV and neither cable nor satellite are anywhere close to being able to broadcast 4k channels, they can barely even do 1080p. The only 4k they currently provide is via on demand.
Don't get me wrong i myself just bought a Samsung KS7000 but for the majority of people a 1080p OLED would be a better buy for right now and a 4k/8k or whatever in 5 years time.
Last years oled 1080p
Or
Samsungs 2nd top ultra hd flat tv from 2016 for same price.
No screen burn nothing and 1080p looks class on anyway .
I took a quick picture but the moving image on tv confused my phone focus. That's my setup and I see a massive difference between 1080p and 4K, things just look like you're looking out of a window.
I could afford the oled but it wasn't worth the extra 1000, instead I decided to save the extra cash.
Remember that's comparing the 4K, the oled tv is just irrelevant at this point
https://s16.postimg.org/42z5jm0ad/IMG_0030.jpg
I have seen both the KS7500 and this TV at richer sounds in their test room and the difference is HUGE when viewing a 4k blu ray. There is no comparison at all. To see a ridiculously bright light shining in a room, with a shadow on the far side of the room still being black is a sight to behold.
We had to turn the lights down to make the OLED really pop due to the low max brightness. With the Samsung KS7500 we just upped the brightness a bit and it looked just as good as with the lights down.
They made massive strides with OLED this year. Especially with two of the bigger flaws with OLED - Screen burn in and longevity. This TV will not take advantage of either strides and so screen burn in (though not usually permanent with OLED screens), will happen a lot more commonly.
Day to day the OLED may look better as long as you mostly watch in the evening and stick to normal HD stuff coming from freeview or sky but in terms of capability there is no real comparison. 720p or 1080p content in a light controlled room - the OLED looks slightly better. In terms of the future - the OLED will look old a lot faster!
Needless to say I'm the owner of a KS7500 now.
For Rio Olympics Japan broadcasted some events in 8K. So 4K is already "outdated" :wink:
But back in the UK, realistically a lot of my TV viewing is still SD broadcasting. So when I see the UHDTV demos in stores (and I agree they do look great) I ask them to switch to BBC News in SD (Freeview channel 130). This shows how well the TV upscales SD broadcasts. This is my go-to test that any new TV must excel in. Most TV's are rubbish at this.
Of course BBC News HD looks great but that's not the point :wink:
Copy down the recommended base settings from AVforums for each set so you can compare them properly or at the very least turn off all the processing options, also dont forget to take some files on a thumb drive that represent the type of content you would normally watch.
Regarding future-proofing, 1080p content will still be around for years to come. This TV isn't suddenly going to become useless in a couple of years just because 4K content has become more readily available. While not quite as bad as the gaming PC market, there's always some new TV tech around the corner, and future-proofing is largely a fool's errand IMO. Get what suits your needs now.
I bought it spring this year on a price match from JL and every single person has commented on picture quality even friends with 4k TVs .Its covered for 5 years so no worries there.As a bonus its also the best looking TV on or Off.
As for the tv it does seem a good price to be fair for a cracking tv
I decided to sell mine and go with the KS7000. HDR makes a FAR bigger impact than resolution. No, the blacks aren't as deep, but the combination of insane brightness and 10bit wider color gamut gives the screen just as much impact, in a different sort of way to OLED. It's also half the price.
Also modern lcds like the ks7000 can get to 1400nits, this things gets to only 330nits.... which means it sucks for daytime viewing and it sucks for HDR... which is basically a wide colour gamut that essentially this to doesn't have.
The other good thing about 4K is how much more pixel dense they are, things look like print. However this tv has such big pixels, you can see them from a mile away, it just looks so cheap and nasty like an iPhone 3GS vs iPhone 4 when we finally jumped to the retina screen.
Don't waste your money, go to the store and see a ks7000 vs even a 4K oled and they looks practically identical. The only difference I see is the lg oleds are more saturated, I found them to be too saturated where people's face are all orange. Also the lg oled 4k tv I saw lost a lot of detail in th blacks, where the mucher brighter ks7000 showed a lot more detail. Oled isn't perfect, it has a lot of problems like image retention and how fast they fade, put your oled phone that's 2nyears old up against a brand new one and you'll see how much yours has faded. If you want a tv for 5 years, oled jus isn't reliable enough....
Maybe you don't buy a tv this year, maybe wait for next year when the lcds will all be full array backlit. Then you see the advantage of oled gone as those TVs almost look as black as the oleds but have the advantage of LCD. Standards aren't sitting around, LCD has come a long way, just like how oled has come a long way, one isn't better than the other... but right now I'm bored of oled being sold to people in a lie.
Don't buy this tv, 4K is the future, if you cannot afford a 4K oled, then buy a tv like the ks7000.
If you play games then definitely get 4K, if you watch Netflix or Amazon prime then definitely get 4K, if you watch blu-rays then get 4K, if you want to use it as a monitor or web browser, get 4K. If you watch a lot of YouTube then get a 4K, only terrestrial uk tv is stuck on 720p... but that's not a good reason to stay in the past, even the BBC are upgrading to 4K.
The only reason to stick to 1080p is because you're too poor for the proper 4K oled.
The only downside to this TV over the KS7000 is no HDR, other than that in 99% of the content you'd be watching it will look better than the Samsung in every way. Other than a handful of shows/movies on netflix + amazon and bluray almost everything else you'll be watching for the next few years to come will be 1080p or lower anyway.
e6 lg oled is the best tv this year hands down that people can afford
Can't have reviewers stating 4k is not a great feature to have; its driving the vast amount of TV sales right now and it also drives people to want to buy 4k feeds - more money for the industry.
This is TV is not perfect but still better for most people than any other equivalent priced TV. If for some reason you will be watching just about all of your viewing in 4k and sit quite close to your TV then yes it won't be the best. But for allot of people with no 4k feeds it simply is.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue49ks7000-201610234374.htm
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8000
(The US ks8000 = UK ks7000 I'm told)
especially as I can probably afford to get the 65in Samsung model once it drops a little, it has better input lag for gaming and the viewing angle shouldn't matter as my 4/5 seat sofa faces the tv. I have been to currys to compare but worry because i cant really gauge how my various tv/gaming sources will look with upscaling. In the store I think I slightly preferred the ks7000 actually but that was only watching the provided 4k hdr source material. Perhaps a bisit to Richer Sounds is in order)
Seeing as its quite a heated debate here I thought I would request advice in the form of this annoyingly long post (Sorry!)
so im going for the b6 65 " sat about 7 feet ive actually messaured it then im getting 4k netflix a uhd player to watch it in proper 4k and virgins new 4k tivo i have 200 meg bb
if your going to get 4k you have to get the best from it other wise dont bother.
Even then, 95% of my viewing would be on SD / HD and Kodi and on a 65 incher it would look rubbish (I have tested this using work's 65 inch 4k set). The decision then makes itself. Watch the TV for now on the appropriate sized screen with the right technology. This is it.
I did consider the Samsung 7000 series but it doesn't have 3D and there are some poor reviews on AVForums regarding backlighting and motion.
I bought a Samsung 55ks8000 2 weeks ago £1449. Just cos this is oled does not mean it's better picture it has 25% of the pixels lol.
It currys the £2500 oleds were next to the Samsung and I preferred the Samsung picture. Might have been lg demo was crap in space one that didn't look at that good.
Uhd is where hd was when it started, give it 6-12 months and there will be loads to watch
Now, to answer your questions. The fact that it's "only" 1080p and not 4K resolution shouldn't be a deal breaker for most people. Neither should its inability to handle HDR sources. It will still outperform any LED-based LCD TV we've seen overall, including the highest-end models with 4K and HDR. Then again, if you insist on your next TV having those next-generation features -- a perfectly reasonable stance, especially on a TV this expensive -- the 55EG9100 isn't for you.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/4k-hdr-compatible-vs-full-hd.2066643/
So again stupid decision. Samsung future proofed this is not. You buy oled as you want the best picture so why would you buy one that can't produce the best picture which is uhd
its not all about the resolution .if you knew about tvs you wouldn't have made your comment :smile:
Scan down to below £1500 tv see what wins
If you have a which subscription, their best 2016 is my Samsung
http://www.which.co.uk/reviews/televisions/article/best-tvs-of-2016
This oled fits on the same category so why just cos this is oled did it not win?
It's like saying every tv that is 4K is better
Just cos this is oled does not mean it's better
Do some research on your spectrum computer