Good price for 4G, dual sim, Marshmallow phone. Locked to o2 - £39.99 'launch price' until 16.11.16. Specs otherwise are reasonable, not top of the range. Good option for nieces and nephews (or grannies and granddads) at christmas, perhaps. Free delivery. If you can suggest better then let me know, cos I'm seriously thinking of getting this to replace my ageing Kazam. Looked at Wileyfox but reviews are discouraging. Marshmallow is a must, I think, to make best use of the microSD card. Probably won't run as hot as a Galaxy Note 7, so I'll buy a toaster separately.
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Sqsq
2 Nov 1637#22
Did you just compare a £40 mobile to a £700 one?
shyscorpion to skelly123
2 Nov 1617#14
Yes, it can also make calls and send messages.
Hpi_matrix
2 Nov 165#38
8GB should be banned, it can't cost manufacturers that much to double the storage to 16GB and make it an infinitely more usable.
Can anyone tell me if both sim slots are locked to O2 - cos that would rather undermine the point of having a dual sim phone...?
raj75 to DavidL
1 Nov 161#5
I would doubt it is Dual SIM phone. O2 has never sold Dual SIM phone. They would be selling the single SIM version only.
doggboy10
1 Nov 16#6
Can this be unlocked?
skelly123
1 Nov 162#7
Will this run Pokémon Go?
shyscorpion to skelly123
2 Nov 1617#14
Yes, it can also make calls and send messages.
jimhuf to skelly123
2 Nov 162#40
Thats so last month
A1RN
1 Nov 16#8
Not true.
bpcampbell
1 Nov 16#9
£59.99 In Argos. Dual sim slots, so you can use your phone on a local network while travelling abroad or use different plans to improve your chances of getting signal wherever you are. http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5856974#
waynehardy
1 Nov 161#10
o2 do sell dual SIM, the oneplus 3 is a dual SIM!
but I take your point, they haven't sold dual SIM before. but they may do from now on tho
mfactor
1 Nov 161#11
Got a refurb LGK4 as a backup from the same place , came as new (with generic usb cable only), you choose a tariff but pay no extra, next day free delivery....
And (for me) you can just shove a giffgaff sim in with no messing with unlocking.......
sam_of_london
1 Nov 162#12
Only 1 gb ram otherwise I would have bought O2 website does not mention ram. Android phones with one gb ram give memory problems.
That's 207 ppi -
Compare that to a flagship like s7 which is 577 ppi
Great price no doubt. Just giving info that others might find helpful
lianne21
2 Nov 161#15
It can ?? Isn't it amazing what phones can do nowadays.
kalico
2 Nov 16#16
Perhaps, but the battery won't usually last long enough to do anything that advanced.
irishsea
2 Nov 16#17
Now im torn between this and the lg leon arg loved my lenovo note
jaz2010
2 Nov 16#18
can this be unlocked?
tek-monkey
2 Nov 16#19
Good to see more dual sim phones arriving.
tyr to tek-monkey
2 Nov 16#23
this one is not dual sim- confirmed with o2
KiNG
2 Nov 16#20
are both sims locked to o2?
mane1034
2 Nov 16#21
how to unlock please?
Sqsq
2 Nov 1637#22
Did you just compare a £40 mobile to a £700 one?
Masteryates
2 Nov 16#24
The One Plus 3 is a dual sim phone sold by o2.
sajjadashraf
2 Nov 16#25
It's single sim. Just confirmed from O2 chat
dms05
2 Nov 16#26
I can't buy without adding at least a £10 SIM. Is this corrrect?
X10 to dms05
2 Nov 16#37
No, this is not correct.
jakeby
2 Nov 161#27
Only 8GB Internal memory. Just not enough.
sazzopardi1971 to jakeby
2 Nov 162#29
True, but there's also a micro-SD slot for extra storage
rapuchy
2 Nov 16#28
anyone know how this phone can unlock please
husnaanraza
2 Nov 16#30
Extra storage. But can you move apps onto SD cards?
doncoop
2 Nov 16#31
If it has marshmallow then you can use the sd as app storage.
mane1034
2 Nov 16#32
Could not find anything on google to unlock it?
Not sure o2 will unlock it?
seaniboy
2 Nov 16#33
Great deal if you are in the Android market, HEAT op :smiley:
K0YS
2 Nov 161#34
That's not entirely true. Majority of apps don't run off sd cards, they cannot be moved from internal storage. Even when downloading apps that can be stored on sd cards, they need to download to your phone first so you'll need the space for that to begin with.
8gb will leave you with around 3/4gb of free space which if you're planning to use a lot of apps, is useless.
I have no games on my phone and very few apps and yet it's over 8gb.
8gb is only useful to use a phone as a phone, not a media device.
rapid111111
2 Nov 16#35
hot if it's dual, cold if it's not..and it seems not confirmed by 2 people
Avenger1324
2 Nov 161#36
On the topic of 8GB of storage, it might be just down to the version of Android you at running as to what it will allow - and it's not as simple as just 5 / 6.
I moved from a Moto 4G (3rd gen) to a Moto G4 Play.
The 4G had 8GB internal storage, and I added a 32GB microSD card. I installed apps on it, ran out of space, then tried to get apps to move / install on the SD card, but found in most cases with large apps I could only move the core of the app, but the "data" portion of it, would remain on the internal storage. Since for many games the bulk sat in the "data" rather than the app, it made the microSD useful for only pictures, music and videos.
Now on the G4 Play I have taken the same SD card with me, formatted just for this device and it not only allows me to install to the SD card, it seems to now use that by default.
Oddly both devices were running Marshmallow, and to my knowledge were as up to date with versions as the handset would allow. I've not bothered with rooting / sideloading etc. just taken what the phone could find when looking for software updates.
Now being able to properly expand the storage makes a load of difference and as we all know, it is far cheaper to buy 32/64GB micro SD cards than it is to pay for that to be built into the phone originally.
Hpi_matrix
2 Nov 165#38
8GB should be banned, it can't cost manufacturers that much to double the storage to 16GB and make it an infinitely more usable.
lains
2 Nov 16#39
good price, probably one of the cheapest phones around for 4G
Imti
2 Nov 16#41
Questions Peeps
- Can this be unlocked and a few people asking the same question
- Can the phone be used as a personal hotspot? Like a Mobile Mifi for the car (Ipads) etc
paulandpam1
2 Nov 161#42
That's also not entirely true, Marshmallow allows an sd card to be used as adopted storage and can be merged into the devices existing storage making one large space instead of two smaller storage spaces.
Spookirules
2 Nov 16#43
Ok so...is this a good buy? I have a Samsung Core Prime which I've had for 1yr and it's starting to play up. It doesn't show on the compare site I normally use.
Oh and I'm having the same issues with storage in that I have a 32gb sd card but the Samsung pretty much refuses to use it!
ontheqt
2 Nov 16#44
The main issue is you need a high spec fast transfer microsd or it will be a shed disaster. Its likely a memory card with a decent capacity that is fast will cost as much as the phone ish.
fizz
2 Nov 16#45
But only if the manufacturer implements the function...some well know brands decided not too because it would confuse the owner (read: we cant sell more profitable models).
Motorola did allow it, not sure if this Lenovo does.
paulandpam1
2 Nov 162#46
Yes that is correct and I believe Samsung and Sony don't allow adoptable storage on their devices running Marshmallow.
But Lenovo allow it to be used on both my tablet and phone and I use a Samsung evo 64gb sd card without any problems.
When you first put the sd card in the device it asks if you want to use it as device OR removeable storage and if you chose device it tests the sd card to ensure it's fast enough.
fizz
2 Nov 162#47
ech Specs
Processor
64-bit MTK 6735 quad-core 1.0 GHz processor
Operating System
Android™ 6.0, Marshmallow
Dimensions (HxWxT)
132.5 mm x 66 mm x 9.9 mm
Weight
144 g (0.32 Ibs)
Battery
2000 mAh Li-ion interchangeable
Battery Life
Active Standby: Up to 7.3 days' (4G)
Talk Time: Up to 11.3 hours' (4G)
Integrated Camera
Rear: 5 MP fixed-focus
Front: 2 MP fixed-focus selfie camera
Sound
1x Speaker, 3.5 mm Jack
Ports
Micro-USB
microSD
Connectivity/Radios
Data: GPRS, EDGE, HSPA+
Speed: HSPA+ 21Mbps (DL) / 5.76Mbps (UL)
4G Network: LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20 | TDD LTE B38/B40/B41(200Mhz)*
3G Network: WCDMA band 1/2/5/8*
2G Network: GSM band 2/3/5/8*
WLAN: WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth: Bluetooth® 4.0
GPS support: Yes
Radio: FM radio
(*The network information is subject to change in different regions.)
Display
Size: 4.5" FWVGA (800 x 480)
Type: Up to 2-point Multitouch Capacitive
Colour
Matte Black
Matte White
SIM
Dual: Micro * people have mentioned the O2 is single sim
Sensors
Gravitation sensor
Palwan
2 Nov 16#48
This will not make you upgrade in next 6 months. They want you to buy next phone sooner than you willing to.
uid
2 Nov 16#49
hahah you made my day guys.
also, thanks for this deal op. heat added!
K0YS
2 Nov 16#50
Not sure if it's manufacturer based, I thought it was an OS feature? I've got the Moto G3 which also asked if you want to use it as a dedicated storage card, but again, only moves a few apps. The apps it does move also run or load slower, I've got a class 10 card and still loads very slow causing some apps to just crash.
twinsen
2 Nov 16#51
is it easy/cheap enough to unlock?
mane1034
2 Nov 16#52
I could not find anywhere on eBay but hopefully someone can help how to unlock it on this forum
horsey
2 Nov 16#53
What, like talk to people?
Sorry, I only send pictures of food and random strings of emoticons
Hpi_matrix
2 Nov 16#54
Or just make you avoid 8GB phones in the future.
ciarandanielbyrne1
2 Nov 16#55
Anyone know the screen res?
fizz
2 Nov 16#56
It is an OS function, problem with Android is the OEMs can do whatever they like and some don't want you to use the function so they disable it. Motorolas doesn't and an earlier poster said the Lenovo doesn't too (Motorolas parent company)
I read on one of the android sites that the model of card you use makes a difference.
fizz
2 Nov 16#57
Display
Size: 4.5" FWVGA (800 x 480) 207 ppi
ciarandanielbyrne1
2 Nov 16#58
So rubbish then not even 720p I will avoid then cheers Fizz
MrPuddington
2 Nov 16#59
Not bad, even if the EE Rook for 19.99 was also 4G, and clearly better value. But if this is dual-SIM, it is still interesting. Shame about 1GB of RAM.
caspre12
2 Nov 16#60
Can anyone link to review video on YouTube?
brookysm
2 Nov 161#61
Marshmallow allows external storage of SD card but only on the provision that SD card is locked to that phone and this is VERY much down to the manufacturer if they want this option activated or not so 2 devices running Marshmallow might not be the same.
The issue is Cache, Android will only allow OS cache stored as whole in one location so even if an app is storable on SD unless that card is adopted storage the whole app will not tranefer to SD and even that is down to if you moved Cache to SD card too.
paulandpam1
3 Nov 161#62
You need to go to storage in the settings and iirc you have to click on either device storage or sd card (I think it's device) and there is an option to migrate all data over to the sd card.
After it's completed it will run smoothly and everything will be intergrated into one large space.
If you don't do the above apps don't work properly for instance I noticed the iPlayer app was on the sd card but downloaded programs went to the phones internal memory but after migrating all data everything worked as one smooth large space.
Sqsq
3 Nov 16#63
Anyone having this mobile please could you go to Settings > Regulatory & Safety > CU Reference and let us know what it says. This will be the PID asked by unlocking services to check if this mobile can be unlocked with remote code or only by cable.
rikesh_
3 Nov 16#64
Quad-core 1.0 GHz processorAndroid™ 6.0, MarshmallowUp to 11.3 hours’ talk time and 7.3 days’ standby from interchangeable 2000 mAh battery4.5” FWVGA (800 x 480) display1 GB RAM memory, 8 GB storage + up to 32 GB microSD expandable storage (optional)144 g weight and 9.9 mm thin5 MP fixed-focus rear camera2 MP fixed-focus front selfie cameraOptional dual nano SIM (single SIM version available in specific EMEA & LATAM countries)Available colors: matte white, matte black, and gold*
rikesh_
3 Nov 16#65
Quad-core 1.0 GHz processorAndroid™ 6.0, MarshmallowUp to 11.3 hours’ talk time and 7.3 days’ standby from interchangeable 2000 mAh battery4.5” FWVGA (800 x 480) display1 GB RAM memory, 8 GB storage + up to 32 GB microSD expandable storage (optional)144 g weight and 9.9 mm thin5 MP fixed-focus rear camera2 MP fixed-focus front selfie cameraOptional dual nano SIM (single SIM version available in specific EMEA & LATAM countries)Available colors: matte white, matte black, and gold*
paulandpam1
3 Nov 16#66
I have an unlocked Lenovo dual sim phone and the people here asking about unlock codes I wonder if you have thought about whether you will need 2 seperate codes.
Remote unlocking is done through your imei code but on dual sim phones you will have 2 imei numbers (one for each sim slot)
smoothify
3 Nov 16#67
Can anyone that ordered this confirm if this O2 version is Dual Sim?
Thanks
mane1034
3 Nov 16#68
Got the phone today
It is definatley not dual sim.
It is locked to O2 and I've no idea it can be unlocked?
smoothify
3 Nov 16#69
Thank you, i wondered if that was the case, perhaps title of deal should be changed.
debadwolff
3 Nov 16#70
My parents still have their brick nokias and I've been trying to get them onto a touch-screen for some time as their children and family are mostly abroad and they miss out on things like whatsapp etc.
My question is would this be a good phone for them? Would it have good capacity for whatsapp and skype? Maybe waze etc?
Thanks!
davetheraveo2
4 Nov 16#71
Should be able to unlock but it will cost you £15 direct from O2
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Can you change to
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/lenovo/b/#contractType=payasyougo
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5856974#
but I take your point, they haven't sold dual SIM before. but they may do from now on tho
And (for me) you can just shove a giffgaff sim in with no messing with unlocking.......
Size: 4.5" FWVGA (800 x 480)
http://shop.lenovo.com/ae/en/smartphones
That's 207 ppi -
Compare that to a flagship like s7 which is 577 ppi
Great price no doubt. Just giving info that others might find helpful
Not sure o2 will unlock it?
8gb will leave you with around 3/4gb of free space which if you're planning to use a lot of apps, is useless.
I have no games on my phone and very few apps and yet it's over 8gb.
8gb is only useful to use a phone as a phone, not a media device.
I moved from a Moto 4G (3rd gen) to a Moto G4 Play.
The 4G had 8GB internal storage, and I added a 32GB microSD card. I installed apps on it, ran out of space, then tried to get apps to move / install on the SD card, but found in most cases with large apps I could only move the core of the app, but the "data" portion of it, would remain on the internal storage. Since for many games the bulk sat in the "data" rather than the app, it made the microSD useful for only pictures, music and videos.
Now on the G4 Play I have taken the same SD card with me, formatted just for this device and it not only allows me to install to the SD card, it seems to now use that by default.
Oddly both devices were running Marshmallow, and to my knowledge were as up to date with versions as the handset would allow. I've not bothered with rooting / sideloading etc. just taken what the phone could find when looking for software updates.
Now being able to properly expand the storage makes a load of difference and as we all know, it is far cheaper to buy 32/64GB micro SD cards than it is to pay for that to be built into the phone originally.
- Can this be unlocked and a few people asking the same question
- Can the phone be used as a personal hotspot? Like a Mobile Mifi for the car (Ipads) etc
Oh and I'm having the same issues with storage in that I have a 32gb sd card but the Samsung pretty much refuses to use it!
But only if the manufacturer implements the function...some well know brands decided not too because it would confuse the owner (read: we cant sell more profitable models).
Motorola did allow it, not sure if this Lenovo does.
But Lenovo allow it to be used on both my tablet and phone and I use a Samsung evo 64gb sd card without any problems.
When you first put the sd card in the device it asks if you want to use it as device OR removeable storage and if you chose device it tests the sd card to ensure it's fast enough.
Processor
64-bit MTK 6735 quad-core 1.0 GHz processor
Operating System
Android™ 6.0, Marshmallow
Dimensions (HxWxT)
132.5 mm x 66 mm x 9.9 mm
Weight
144 g (0.32 Ibs)
Battery
2000 mAh Li-ion interchangeable
Battery Life
Active Standby: Up to 7.3 days' (4G)
Talk Time: Up to 11.3 hours' (4G)
Integrated Camera
Rear: 5 MP fixed-focus
Front: 2 MP fixed-focus selfie camera
Sound
1x Speaker, 3.5 mm Jack
Ports
Micro-USB
microSD
Connectivity/Radios
Data: GPRS, EDGE, HSPA+
Speed: HSPA+ 21Mbps (DL) / 5.76Mbps (UL)
4G Network: LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20 | TDD LTE B38/B40/B41(200Mhz)*
3G Network: WCDMA band 1/2/5/8*
2G Network: GSM band 2/3/5/8*
WLAN: WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth: Bluetooth® 4.0
GPS support: Yes
Radio: FM radio
(*The network information is subject to change in different regions.)
Display
Size: 4.5" FWVGA (800 x 480)
Type: Up to 2-point Multitouch Capacitive
Colour
Matte Black
Matte White
SIM
Dual: Micro * people have mentioned the O2 is single sim
Sensors
Gravitation sensor
also, thanks for this deal op. heat added!
Sorry, I only send pictures of food and random strings of emoticons
I read on one of the android sites that the model of card you use makes a difference.
Size: 4.5" FWVGA (800 x 480) 207 ppi
The issue is Cache, Android will only allow OS cache stored as whole in one location so even if an app is storable on SD unless that card is adopted storage the whole app will not tranefer to SD and even that is down to if you moved Cache to SD card too.
After it's completed it will run smoothly and everything will be intergrated into one large space.
If you don't do the above apps don't work properly for instance I noticed the iPlayer app was on the sd card but downloaded programs went to the phones internal memory but after migrating all data everything worked as one smooth large space.
Remote unlocking is done through your imei code but on dual sim phones you will have 2 imei numbers (one for each sim slot)
Thanks
It is definatley not dual sim.
It is locked to O2 and I've no idea it can be unlocked?
My question is would this be a good phone for them? Would it have good capacity for whatsapp and skype? Maybe waze etc?
Thanks!
http://www.o2.co.uk/help/phones-sims-and-devices/unlocking-an-o2-mobile-to-use-on-a-different-network
I bought an LG Leon recently which has similar specs and it certain't ain't 'rubbish'. It's under powered but quite usable.
It's not available anymore though. It was £29.99
But it'll have to wait as I need to go grocery shopping and go to the gym. Just as well it has NFC and I can play my music on it.
I've been a bit busy today using it to find girls on Tinder. Isn't that great?
I don't think you get the top up, but if you do you can't complain! :smiley: