Stop posting hive deals! Paid £209 day before black friday.

BTW - installation dates with BG you're looking at mid January now.

Its a fallacy that nest thermostat has to be wired in to the heating controller .. It has a non-wires option that only needs power from a nearby power supply. The thermostat communicates with the heating controller wirelessly in both the wired and wireless modes.

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Wickes just deliver the Hive. You get a code in the box for setting up the installation with BG. You go on the Hive website and put in the code then select an installation date. It's a 6 to 8 week wait for installation at the moment. For that reason I've voted cold despite this being a good price.

If ordering through Wickes does the kit get delivered then you have to arrange installation seperately? Or does it all happen in one go?

Didn't say that? But Google a GLOBAL company with multiple companies selling multiple goods whose whole raison d'être is to collect and sell data will have a more vested interest in that sort of information than British Gas a UK energy supply company. The NEST device has more inbuilt ability than Hive to collect this data (motion, geo, proximity etc, etc)

The 3rd gen does hot water with nest so that is not upto date now either

And you think BG isn't collecting any data hahaha

I have a combi boiler, so only use the hearing aspect - but i love my Hive!

Had mine for a few months now linked to my echo's, I highly recommend this system.

No you don't have to be with BG. It's just a wireless thermostat controlled over wifi. I have had one for a year and it does come in handy but has made me extremely lazy.

Another thing about Hive I like over Nest is that at least it's being fitted by an engineer whose company manufactures it unlike NEST who subcontract its installation to anyone who says they can?? If anything goes wrong at least I'm reassured that British Gas will cover it

I have just installed one of these Hives. Bought it from Trade Point (B&Q) for £134 and installed it myself. Fairly easy for a competent DIY'er. It's just mains. live, neutral and earth plus normally 2 wires from the boiler. One is live common and the other is switched live to turn on the boiler. Great piece of kit and easy to set up. It has geo location and can tell you if you've left home and left the heating on and can tell you when your near home and it's too cold indoors. You can set temperatures to do this. You can also install contact and movement sensors and use hive led light bulbs that you control from the app.
Disclaimer. Please don't install it yourself if you don't know what your doing!!!!

as a BG engineer all I install is hive, I have done a few nests, but the thermostat you have to wire a cable to it, and that may prove difficult depending where your boiler is, hive is just so easy, you wire mains cable into the wireless receiver and a 5 core cable into the boiler(depending on which boiler) and the thermostat is placed in the coldest place(usually hall) at 1.5m and at least 1.5m away from a radiator, the radiator has to have the valve changed too so it stays constantly on because the hive thermostat is being installed

​do you have a combo boiler or something different?

​I suppose another reason to go for hive for me was because nest is a company owned by Google so I very much doubt it will ever be compatable with Apple homekit. Where as hive are looking into full support. So which mobile phone OS you use possibly also effect which product will be right for you also going forward.

Not at all. It's just a thermostat at the end of the day really. Just replaces you existing, and not difficult to install if your ok doing basic wiring

any questions about hive or any boiler related questions( electrician), e. g about controls etc drop me a message :smile:

tempted by this ... it's annoying that both Hive and Nest are currently 50/50 in terms of parity.

any views on upcoming features that might help swing the decision?

Luckily, I have the wiring. You can't run much more than a timer/stat or have too much display time using battery power without changing the batteries becoming a PITA which in part explains the limitations of Hive.

....only 3.5% for electrical too on Quidco for VERY and for the 10% off with the new customer discount you need to set up a 'credit' account....don't really fancy that

might be wrong but if you need to use a voucher to get the new customer discount, then quidco 10.5% won't apply as per their teas and coffees:

"Cashback will not be paid when a voucher code has been used"

No install dates till mid January..... Would have thought they would have planned for more engineers if they planned to reduce the product.

​I would have probably preferred nest but I went for hive because the one flaw of nest is that it has to be wired in. With hive it is just a mount it on a wall anywhere you want job, 4 batteries and its done. Nest on the other hand is more difficult. Unless the wiring is already in place to mount it on the wall you are forced to either run wires to it or have it sat on a shelf or stand somewhere. That's pretty much the only reason that put me off it though.

Same price on very and got an extra 10% off as a new customer so was £162

Hive would certainly not be affected by pets since it has no motion detector. NEST may but it does say it has the ability to detect whether the motion is from a pet or a human being...but how affective that is depends I guess on how big your dog is? :smiley:

Also BG will fit it for £150 if they are in your house to fix another boiler problem or to do annual boiler service etc

I'm am electrician for British gas, and hove is pretty. Mich the exact same as nest, you can control from anywhere in the world, and it's a really good idea if you have a gran/ grandpa, elderly person etc to fit a hive because you can monitor there heating from your phone, for example, I've got one for my gran who has Alzheimer's, so she's always forgetting what to do with her heating and either switching it off or putting it on full blast, so i setup a child lock on the the most at and just control her heating from my phone

Thank you for the reply

Fair point I haven't really considered these as personally I don't have any interactive items in my home except Nest. I would be surprised if nest doesn't become more cross compatible in the future as well. Both are still in their early life I'm sure both will improve a lot over the years.

RUDE!!! if it affects many alarm systems I think it's a valid question

wow thats some big quotes especially for the tiny amount of wiring involved, I paid £35 sounds like i was lucky

Cheapest of 4 quote i got was £70 + VAT for fitting with the most expensive being £249 + VAT!?. Please note with the BLACK20 code the self install Hive thermostat is still cheaper on Wickes than Amazon which would be only £119.

Might be a daft question: how do the sensors work with pets?? I have a Labrador that's at home, will this think it's a person home and keep putting the heating on??

it shouldnt cost a lot to install these say £40, maybe worth asking your local gas person

In my opinion as well nest is better than Hive. This is a good price but the nest system works well with busy family lives and tracks where you are to turn the heating on or off (works with multiple phones as well) it also has a back up with sensors in the thermostat so that if a person is in the house without the app it will still turn on the heating. The nest system learns your habits very well and automatically works out a heating schedule. The hive system is a bit less intelligent and requires a bit more management. The hive system also has its smart system turned off as default and you have enable it! That's just dumb but then again it's made by BG and do they really want you to use less gas? Read reviews 90% say nest wins

What are the requirements for one of these? I'm thinking about one for my retired parents but their boiler/heating setup is from the 70s!

Also the Hive multizone add-on is at the £79.99 price plus the extra 20% off code discount. :smile: Total for both £258!

To my knowledge it works on all standard UK systems. Ours is the usual boiler and hot water tank system and it does both the heating and hot water.

I ordered yesterday from Amazon at,£189.99. Wonder if they will price match if I point out wickes are cheaper?

Really good system, have had it installed for a few months now. Only downside is that it is does not currently support Apple Home Kit (they do say they plan to support it, eventually) and the geolocation feature built into their app is useless.

You can get proper geolocation functionality by using IFTTT however, https://ifttt.com

[/quote]It makes no difference who supplies your gas and as to the functioning of this or any device in the same way your cooker doesn't heat food slower/faster because you've changed supplier[/quote]Of course.. Sorry my fault... I Confused hive with smart meters :confused: .... Too late to be replying anything sensible on these forums so better sleep now.

ah brill.. thanks op just saved me £11

guys is this the same as the hive 2 at Amazon for 189?

It makes no difference who supplies your gas and as to the functioning of this or any device in the same way your cooker doesn't heat food slower/faster because you've changed supplier

Does it say all the features will work for any supplier or just the basic thermostat function... Read somewhere that if changed supplier then it will be no better than a traditional timer/thermostat although that may have been about 1st gen Hive...

No it works with ANY supplier...says so in the blurb

Looks a good price. Im going to buy this or nest still not 100% sure but must get it in sale

Do you have to do pay a monthly fee