Mine arrived from Amazon today, scratched :-( don't understand how though both the external and internal packaging was intact and didn't look like a returned grade A. Amazon dispatching a replacement.

This model has been discontinued by De'Longhi and replaced by the ESAM 4200, so that's why it's cheap. But according to this site, http://blackheartscoffee.com/delonghi-bean-to-cup-coffee-machine-comparisson-guide there's not much difference anyway

AO sold out, just bought for 199 at Amazon

Anybody know if there is any difference in this model and the silver one (apart from colour) On Amazon. The Black model is cheaper for some reason?

199 on Amazon now

I guess they must have changed the firmware then. Good move.

bought this last night from AO for £199

I got this earlier from ao.com for 199 with 16.5% cashback from TCB!

I have one of these. Good machine, and a great price. My one criticism is that when it decides it wants descaling you HAVE to descale it before you can make any more coffee. Not good if it happens first thing in the morning. Perhaps better than you constantly putting it off until it breaks, I suppose.

Any difference between this model and the silver one on amazon. think it is
4200.s ???

Ao sorry not so

So is only £199, plus quidco Upto 11% back

http://ao.com/product/esam4000b-delonghi-magnifica-bean-to-cup-coffee-machine-black-41950-65.aspx?WT.srch=1&WT.z_MT=drytinder&WT.z_RTM=PHG&WT.z_CN=304092&WT.z_AG=Forum&WT.z_AT=&WT.z_KW=drytinder

Just ordered myself as the 3000b model didn't go down at John Lewis