Just to let you know, the car doesn't stop working if you go over 5k pa.

7.2p per mile is a very reasonable excess mileage charge. So if you want an extra 10,000 miles over 2 years, then you pay an extra £720 over the term (equivalent to an extra £30 per month).

Also VWFS may lower the cost to 3.6p if you phone partly through your agreement (they have in the past and continue to do so).

Agreed wholeheartedly. You want a car to drive, not to toodle to the supermarket every 2nd week. 2.4k downpayment too, and the car is never yours. Not for me.

Appeals to a better clientele of doggers ? :man:

Wow really? That's very cheap

Inc VAT? If so, what was was the monthly rentals and inital rental?

Because the cheapest Golf R hatchback on a personal lease has been £6.5k over the term - and that was without nav, no winter pack and no DSG. The R estates have been around £6.3k. No where near £5k...

You didn't get an 7R at this price, best deals were still over 6k on term.

Absolute rubbish. I posted the cheapest deal at £180+Vat +deposit of £1800

Also if you get it via your company and don't pay VAT, that saving will be eaten up by BIK, personal Tax and NI, probably employers NI, company setup costs, an accountant. You may not have to pay all but if you aren't paying any, then I am sure the HMRC would like to know why.

Somewhat of a moot point given that the deal in this thread would be 20% less if your ltd company took this lease out for "business" use only

Remember it's not your 'R' it's their 'R' because you have to give it back...

A Fabia is Polo sized though, I think, so not a direct alternative to a Golf.

Does Skoda still make a hot Fabia?

They don't do the VRS anymore, which is a Fab Fabia. Others are... meh...

Prefer the Smart car myself.

This.
You save money and get the Limited Edition Man version of the car.

Or you could do the maths on the excess mileage, and make a judgement call on the comment about how that rate could be negotiated down, and then make an informed comment which would help others......

It irritates the hell out of me when people post deals which present all the information everyone needs to make a judgement relevant to their personal circumstance and people make zero effort to understand it and still think their opinions matter.

Given this is a VAT inclusive price and the excess mileage is hardly a rip off (with the potential to be a bargain) the whole deal seems great value for quite a classy car. Thanks OP for posting. You deserve better.

"Good morning may I speak with fleet sales"

"May I ask who is speaking?"

"Joe Public"

LMAO at the suggestion you can negotiate a deal on a single car with the fleet sales team!

In the sense that it has no clutch pedal, yes. But not a true automatic.

Fair point, but your comment that this is the same price as your Golf R is a bit pointless. You got the Golf R cheaper given you don't pay VAT, but I assume if you got this you'd get it cheaper than the posted price given you'd not pay VAT on this. Either way, both with, or both without VAT, this is cheaper. Although it's not as good as the Golf R. Different models, different prices.

Well keep it on track then... to be honest I don't care about you business nor is it relevant.

Thank you for your informative comment!

what does the dsg mean

good deel m8

You can actually get the manual for £97

​HMRC????

No-one is buying anything. You are paying for a lease.

No one's buying it, it's a lease. Rag it for two years and send it back the Fatherland.

As for British built cars, you're taking Jaguar Land Rover which are not this price, not British owned and sales are supposedly damaged due to Brexit.

To educate yourself?

Educate yourself please:

"If you lease a car, you can usually claim 50% of the VAT. You may be able to reclaim all the VAT if the car is used only for business and is not available for private use, or is mainly used:

as a taxi
for driving instruction"

Only post #94? I'm disappointed...

Some people have an interest in cars, and like driving new, nice and fast ones. Simple

that makes more sense. :smile:

chisypasta is your man!

​Thats exactly my car, and what I was thinking... :smile:

Correct (plus deposit)

Though have to return the car in good condition or you'll be charged for any damage. There's guidelines on the http://www.bvrla.co.uk

I think they should all trott off to a car forum... same bunch everytime. They also all drive porches so why the **** they on this site?

you missed the select contracts deal at £180/month plus £1800 deposit that was on 2 months ago. Also the S3 deal for £210/month plus £2400 deposit on last month

In the end, which ever way you look at it, a man always ends up paying a lot for VAG.

Exactly, try Bedworth for starters, plenty of cheap VAG knocking around town!

From just this thread I would guess the sort of business he is in is one that is in his head. Has posted a load of crap and when asked any probing questions chooses to ignore them probably as he doesn't know answer.

People don't. With any VAG group car is it nearly always cheaper to set the mileage at the minimum and then pay for excess mileage at the end at 7.2P per mile that set a higher amount to start with

Some people can do 33 miles a day, no?

A lot of people work near where they live, work from home, aren't stupid?

Aye, important stuff, and cheap as chips since the gap insurers got regulated to hell.

From memory my ST was around £150 for 3 years, nothing compared to the depreciation, fuel, insurance etc. and soooo worth having.

What's the Financial Ombudsman Service got to with it?

Deluded.

If this is aimed at me then I suggest you read the small print of your lease contract if you have one. I have never had a car which has had the excess charge advertised solely on the website stand for anything more that 115% of the contracted mileage. my current VAG has a charge of 26.7ppm if over 110% of the contracted.

I don't see why you'd want to pay extra, just pay the normal price.

it's not worth the hassle unless you're a big company. BIK, Class 1A add a fair bit of a pain to it.

We are Directors of a small company and sure you could claim the tax on expenses for the lease but the Class 1A NI wiped this out for us.

You have to way up as a whole whether being VAT registered or flat rate VAT registered is worth it to you. If you're flat rate VAT for instance (which offers lots of benefits) - you can't claim for anything under £2000. So it's holistic.

We don't bother with any of the business side and just claim 45ppm agains travel - when using your own car (which may be a personal lease.)

If it's a company car the rate is less than half of that depending on engine size.

You have to way up everything.

Just make sure your insurance covers business and you tell them you are not the legal owner.

The golf 2.5 doesnt come with DSG it comes with tiptronic. Very different to the gearbox found in the UK golf gti's and R's.

Also the 2.5 is not available in the UK market.

You can change it to less.

Just seen this - I've got the GTD which replaced my Mini Cooper S.

Not comparable in any way I'm sure and I've not driven a GTI, but I really miss a petrol engine and I'll definitely be reverting once my GTD lease is up next Sept. Still a fantastic car though (but don't expect much more than 45MPG).

ADVANTAGES
No car tax to pay as paid by the lease company (or part of your payment quoted)
The cost over 2 years in the case is likely to be less than depreciation of buying a car new
You get to have a new car every 2/3 years.
If you go over miles set there is a penalty - although this is a disadvantage its normally better to go for less miles and save a bit each month towards the end of the contract penalty as this will likely to be lower than opting for higher miles at the start and not using them.
You can have a maintenance contract alongside so you have worry free motoring.
If you are funding this instead of a company car there is no need to pay BIK
DISADVANTAGES
Depending on your insurance company the insurance might be slightly higher (its not on mine) - but you have to factor in new cars are lower insurance
You have to change the car in 2 years time - will a good deal be available?
Any damage over certain limits set by the lease company have to be repaired.
The cost to buy the car at the end of the 2 years if this is an option may not be competitive.
If you have the maintenance option then there is usually a higher penalty per mile
Some people dont understand the benefits of lease cars and post loads of rubbish on hot uk deals which you need to read through if you are seriously considering a lease car

I am on my first lease deal - I got the A4 sport deal earlier in the year:)

Thats not everything but hope that helps a little

It allows you to always drive a nearly new car, usually at much less cost than buying.

In this case the main advantage is the cost. This car is nearly £30k new and after 2 years the residual value is around £16k, so £14k depreciation off list. If you were buying it you could reduce that by negotiating the purchase price down but you are probably still looking at £10k+ in depreciation. Add in the cost of capital - either a borrowing cost or a loss of opportunity cost (if you already have £26k-ish in savings which you could be getting a return on) and it would realistically cost you £13k+ to purchase this car and sell it after 2 years. This lease deal costs £5k-£6.5k, depending on your mileage, which is around half that price. Note that this is only the cost for "borrowing" the car; you still have to pay for insurance, fuel, servicing, etc, and you will pay for any excessive damage beyond fair wear and tear. All of which is the same as if you bought the car. Note that any major failures should be covered under warranty with either approach.

The bottom line is that £3k-ish a year (plus running costs) is VERY cheap to drive a reasonably expensive/classy new car.

You might be able to avoid the admin fee if you go direct to a dealer - I did and didnt have to pay that. Not sure about the deposit but there are options to reduce the deposit down to 3 months I think on this deal with the broker. That said I had to drive from Devon to Oxford to pick the car up - it worked out fine as was flying into gatwick on pick up day. Not all garages will match the deal - the bigger ones are more likely to

ALA, go through honestjohn for a small discount - ALA is also the most recommeneded one around :smiley:

Thought about it for that reason. But adaptive cruise makes much more sense with DSG. And I spend more time in traffic than on twisty rural B roads unfortunately.

haha, love it

Heat added, lovely car :smiley:

I would never, EVER be a civil servant!

No he just could not pass a very easy morse code exam, otherwise he would be known aas M0RCC.

What I particularly enjoy is that one minute he's all indignant and righteous and about to call the imaginary defamation police that only exist in his head. And the next he's all nudge nudge wink wink I'm a little bit dodgy but you can't prove nuffink mate.

should have gone to school instead of hanging around the **** covered alleyway m8

Totally agree. You're paying over £5k to drive 10,000 miles - ie, paying over 50p per mile, not including insurance and petrol etc. It only becomes cheaper if you deliberately go into excessive mileage. I'd be in tears knowing that a 10 mile return trip to town had effectively cost me a fiver.

If I buy a car for £5k or £10K, I'd expect to get well over 10,000 miles or 20,000 out of it respectively and still have a large proportion of that left over as trade in value.

I think it means an engine start button etc., not just remote locking.

Lead times are 13-16 weeks at the moment, so only a bit above the normal 8-12 weeks.
Depends on spec. The DSG delays build (the stock is limited) and certain interior colours.

I've got a GTE on order, and it's on track to be ready at the dealership at 13 weeks, so I'm happy with that (4 weeks to go!)

You think there will only be 8 more pages of it? :smiley:

Are you buying or leasing GTE? Always quite fancied one of them but numbers never really added up.

Its a gti which is a 2.0 tsi, however not all 2.0 tsi are gti's.

:neutral_face:

Total payable - £5145.38
Yeah, go on then, we'll let you off the other £20k+
:man:

​Yes of course you do. What makes you think otherwise?

MUST. NOT. FALL. FOR. OBVIOUS. TROLLS.

Standard spec. VW added Winter Pack, Keyless and Nav to standard GTi spec a while back. You can see everything it comes with if you run through the configurator on the VW website.

1. Depends. For a 50 year old woman who lives in a small village in the Outer Hebrides with 30 years no claims, then no it's not expensive. For a 17 year old 'Jack the lad' living in Birmingham, then it'll be the same cost as the lease - doubled.

2. Advisable, but not necessary.

3. Acceptable wear and tear is allowed. Anything outside the BVRLA parameters will be charged when you hand the car back. Unless you book one of ezzer's fairies.

1. Insurance is completely free and part of the lease agreement

2. Gap insurance is not necessary on expensive cars

3. Scratch it as much as you like, put big slobbery dogs in the back and just generally treat it like crap - the finance company won't charge you anything at all because that's how they like their property treated.

Hope that helps.

If someone can't afford to buy a car, of course they're going to say they'll "never buy a car again". Everyone wants something NOW, they aren't prepared to wait. But alas, you've convinced yourself that's O.K.

Yeah it seems like it comes with the Cloth Tartan seats as standard.
The heated seats would be an optional extra I think

Also comes with a free Scottish tartan kilt - found under the spare wheel.

Its an automatic gearbox

Direkt Schalt Getriebe.

What about servicing? Is that included?