This retailer is reducing price for Microsoft Lumia phone series. Cheapest I've seen and Amazon is also selling at this price. Available in black or white.
First of all...app store isn't so bad. it's easy to judge but you should try it first. from all the apps i was using on my xperia and galaxy phones i was missing only one app when i got the windows phone smartphone.
But ...different people, different needs.
Second and the most important of all..dont compare specs of windows phones and android phone. windows is optimised in a much better way and its not as hardware heavy like android.
g4 has better spec than lumia 650 but g4 is still slower than lumia
htslough
22 Oct 165#2
Leaving aside the fact that windows app store is rubbish and Microsoft has dropped production of lumia phones,
even the hardware on this is not very good considering the spec on similarly priced android smartphones such as:
Motorola G4
Vodafone Smart Ultra 6
Wileyfox Swift etc...
if this were a lumia 950 for £100, only then would I even consider it as an option.
very cold
Jonlogical
22 Oct 165#1
Unfortunately very few people even consider Windows phone. I use and prefer these to Android and Apple which I have tried. A phone for individuals and great value.
JoeSpur
25 Oct 164#12
I never cared for the app-gap...but then we lost the eBay app and that's what has made me look twice. I say I'm not a big app user but I still have quite a few installed and the ones I do use are fine - WhatsApp, Flipboard, Spotify... they are my most frequently used 3rd party apps, with Outlook, OneNote, Camera and Edge being used just as much. To me, the base apps, OS and the little touches are what makes Windows my favourite. Things like Glance, double-tap to wake, camera button (and the camera app itself), wireless charging, microsd, and live tiles are things that I miss when I use iPhone (which is my second choice if I am to leave Windows). Having to press the power switch or unlock the phone to do basic things like tell the time or take a photo is "normal" to most people but seems a bit ridiculous to long term Windows users. Also looking at the home screen and seeing a bunch of dead icons, having to click each one of them to see what's going on in them just seems so behind the times for a device that's meant to be at the forefront of innovation (ha ha yeah right). It seems to almost be a gutsy move to stick with what makes sense despite the whole world telling you to follow the crowd. Never really been a fan of Android, although in description it would be closer to Windows than iOS.
...that all being said, that eBay app being pulled is kind of a deal breaker to a regular seller. More will probably follow it out the door. I'm waiting to see their next move before deciding; they are trying to be like Apple keeping everything hush hush but are just losing customers as a result.
All comments (28)
Jonlogical
22 Oct 165#1
Unfortunately very few people even consider Windows phone. I use and prefer these to Android and Apple which I have tried. A phone for individuals and great value.
Scotty Boy to Jonlogical
23 Oct 163#9
+1 - I've running now with a Lumia 820 and a Lumia 540 Dual SIM Handsets - solid as a rock, with the 820 getting a day & half worth of runtime (hacked it to run Windows 10 Mobile OS via an online guide) and two & a half days out of the 540.
htslough
22 Oct 165#2
Leaving aside the fact that windows app store is rubbish and Microsoft has dropped production of lumia phones,
even the hardware on this is not very good considering the spec on similarly priced android smartphones such as:
Motorola G4
Vodafone Smart Ultra 6
Wileyfox Swift etc...
if this were a lumia 950 for £100, only then would I even consider it as an option.
very cold
MrPuddington to htslough
25 Oct 161#16
Exactly. The hardware is highly competitive, but the software and especially the store is not. Yes, Windows 10 mobile is simple, bold, and useful, but it lacks some of the details of Android, and it certainly lacks a lot of apps, even popular ones.
Microsoft had a great opportunity with the Lumia series, but as usually, they have shot themselves in the foot one time too many.
richb3012 to htslough
26 Oct 16#17
I got mine for £80 and even at that price it went straight back. I get the comments about 'Windows is a superior OS' but at the end of the day if its not supported, then it's days are numbered.
Bit like saying Betamax was a better technology than VHS!
bradford_dr to htslough
29 Oct 16#22
And if a flagship android or iphone was £100 maybe I'd consider one of them....
A bit of an odd comment expecting a flagship device for pocket money - I've had 4 windows phones from new and spent less in total than the cost of a single iphone / galaxy S for phones that have historically outperformed both of their rivals for office / internet type tasks for a fraction of the cost.
I accept however that people will fail to cope if their device is lacking snapchat or whatever....
slawekgem
22 Oct 168#3
First of all...app store isn't so bad. it's easy to judge but you should try it first. from all the apps i was using on my xperia and galaxy phones i was missing only one app when i got the windows phone smartphone.
But ...different people, different needs.
Second and the most important of all..dont compare specs of windows phones and android phone. windows is optimised in a much better way and its not as hardware heavy like android.
g4 has better spec than lumia 650 but g4 is still slower than lumia
richb3012 to slawekgem
22 Oct 16#4
App store is very poor. Even the apps that are there are very basic. You can't compare them to their Android/iOS equivalents.
ciarandanielbyrne1
22 Oct 162#5
It's lightweight. Takes great photographs. It's not bad at all.
Agharta
22 Oct 162#6
You can get one from O2 in Like New condition for £70 with no top up required.
You have to choose the PAYG tariff that I presume will be linked to the included SIM but not actually top-up which confuses many. Not sure how easy it is to unlock though!
100% agree. Iirc, even Amazon has now stopped their app for windows (some do correct me if I'm wrong though) and fewer and fewer of the apps I used on Windows were being updated.
Zontes
23 Oct 16#8
I have a Windows phone, and not really a great app user. So bit disappointing that the apps I would use are not available on Windows. Have to use the wife's Android phone for online banking and travel apps.
arjun18
25 Oct 161#10
The negative comments about the device, OS and the app store are bang on the money IMO. I have this as my new device; it works like a dream for Outlook and Office etc. but as soon as you stray even slightly beyond this, it descends into utter failure. The range as well of quality of apps is shocking (developers simply don't have a business case in maintaining their windows platform versions) and will be a deal breaker for most. The user experience is poor by current standards and the OS feels years behind the Android marker. All of those phones by htslough are a wiser purchase by a country mile. Particularly the moto g4
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Phone details can be found here: http://m.gsmarena.com/microsoft_lumia_650-7859.php
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But ...different people, different needs.
Second and the most important of all..dont compare specs of windows phones and android phone. windows is optimised in a much better way and its not as hardware heavy like android.
g4 has better spec than lumia 650 but g4 is still slower than lumia
even the hardware on this is not very good considering the spec on similarly priced android smartphones such as:
Motorola G4
Vodafone Smart Ultra 6
Wileyfox Swift etc...
if this were a lumia 950 for £100, only then would I even consider it as an option.
very cold
...that all being said, that eBay app being pulled is kind of a deal breaker to a regular seller. More will probably follow it out the door. I'm waiting to see their next move before deciding; they are trying to be like Apple keeping everything hush hush but are just losing customers as a result.
All comments (28)
even the hardware on this is not very good considering the spec on similarly priced android smartphones such as:
Motorola G4
Vodafone Smart Ultra 6
Wileyfox Swift etc...
if this were a lumia 950 for £100, only then would I even consider it as an option.
very cold
Microsoft had a great opportunity with the Lumia series, but as usually, they have shot themselves in the foot one time too many.
Bit like saying Betamax was a better technology than VHS!
A bit of an odd comment expecting a flagship device for pocket money - I've had 4 windows phones from new and spent less in total than the cost of a single iphone / galaxy S for phones that have historically outperformed both of their rivals for office / internet type tasks for a fraction of the cost.
I accept however that people will fail to cope if their device is lacking snapchat or whatever....
But ...different people, different needs.
Second and the most important of all..dont compare specs of windows phones and android phone. windows is optimised in a much better way and its not as hardware heavy like android.
g4 has better spec than lumia 650 but g4 is still slower than lumia
You have to choose the PAYG tariff that I presume will be linked to the included SIM but not actually top-up which confuses many. Not sure how easy it is to unlock though!
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/microsoft/lumia-650-like-new/#contractType=payasyougo
https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Handset%20Unlocking%20Form