Do I need it. No.
Do I want it. Yes.

Must try and hold off until Black Friday.

I bought an nvme drive, waste of money to me (spent a long time debating, but wanted to know first hand it was!), no faster than a fast ssd in real world usage, although benchmarks are nice!

suppose if I run a ton of sql vm's it would help...

I won't lie, I was excited when I popped it in mind!

saying that, its a good price :smiley:

The pm has much lower performance than the Sm

Also since it's an oem sku there's no warranty

Save your money, go for the 950 pro or upcoming 960 pro

It's 89.99. Not so hot deal.

According to your Samsung Magician screenshots the 961 has a sequential read speed of 3399MB/s and the 950 does only 1871MB/s. That's not showing the 950 as faster.

Bench marks using Samsung Magician say the 950 is faster than the 961.

Bench marks using Crystal Disk show completely the opposite?!

Not sure what you mean, your Samsung benchmark figures for the PM961 are all higher than the 950's.

I've bought one of these and installed it as a 2nd M.2 to my boot of a Samsung 950 PRO M.2 NVME drive - but the benchmarks I've taken don't add up! The 950 Pro should be the faster drive and if I run the Samsung Magician software it says it is - but Crystal Disk Mark reverses the situation and shows the PM961 as the faster drive!

Samsung PM961 M.2


Samsung 950 Pro M.2


It doesn't seem to make sense with Samsung Magician telling me the 950 Pro is massively better than the PM961 and the story flipped with Crystal.

Just for giggles, I removed the 950 Pro and replaced it with the PM961 and installed W10 from USB. It booted into Windows from a cold start in under 20 seconds, including BIOS loading etc. Despite what the Samsung Magician software says, in a real world test the PM961 seems to be very capable - I just wish it had a larger capacity!

Would this work in a macbook pro retina 2015?

Not too shabby...Bought from Novatech and installed on Z170 Extreme4

This or evo 850 m2?

What's the difference between the pm961 and the sm961

I got one of these a couple of weeks ago and it's great. Does 3400MB/s read, 1200MB/s write in my system. I thought it was the OEM equivalent of the 960 Evo that they've just announced, but that is meant to have a write speed of 1900MB/s so I'm not sure now. Maybe the difference is just drivers since there are no Samsung drivers for the PM961?

Makes very little real world difference and mobos only have one or two slots for them. Can only imagine this format will be replaced by something more flexible soon.

Ah ok, thanks for the info

Is the performance of these really that much more noticeable than a quick SSD drive?

The pm has much lower performance than the Sm

Also since it's an oem sku there's no warranty

Save your money, go for the 950 pro or upcoming 960 pro

Don't know much about these at all, but the last time Amazon warehouse were having a "sale", I bought this https sandisk 256gb m.2

It was cheap for what it was and that's why I had one with a view to using it at a later date.
Since then, have found out that it is possible to add these cards to a desktop by use of the Pcie card slot which is on the mb internally but you need a card to mount this on in order to utilize it?
I bought one from china that just turns off the computer when you turn it on and another that just won't show up on the system at all?
It could be me, but does anyone out there have a recommendation as to what card I need to fit this memory into to actually use it?

Bought this from Novatech last week installed in Asrock Z170 Extreme 4 with i5 6600K. My first M.2!

Cold boot from button press to desktop in ~8secs...

I'm getting 3100 MB/s READ & 1400 MB/s WRITE via Disk Mark...pretty pleased!

As an aside, for anyone interested the Extreme4 is great for the price (£108 Amazon). Got my i5 at 4.8GHZ stable...some nice features at the budget end: onboard power & reset buttons, USB 3.1 type A and dual bios chips.

Oh that's tempting, got a PM951 getting about half the read speed and a third the write speed of the SSD in this deal. Not sure I'll feel it of course but I felt the upgrade from dual SATA SSDs in RAID 0 to this so maybe I'll feel another improvement.

I have a HP prodesk 400 g3 sff desktop, motherboard is H110 chipset based but don't know the manufacturer. Will it support NVMe boot? How can I know that a particular motherboard supports it, is there any setting in BIOS?

We both know it comes with a warranty, he must be confusing it with no support for OEM parts.

hmmmm yeeessss hmmmmm, one or both of us has stopped taking thier pills, ok it`s me, about 5 months ago, but maybe back on them after this.....

Flubit same price

how come they are so fast but cant open programs any quicker or boot any quicker than a standard ssd

​thats for the servers industry. it won t be available for everyone

I bought an nvme drive, waste of money to me (spent a long time debating, but wanted to know first hand it was!), no faster than a fast ssd in real world usage, although benchmarks are nice!

suppose if I run a ton of sql vm's it would help...

I won't lie, I was excited when I popped it in mind!

saying that, its a good price :smiley:

That's only compatible with the first gen X1 Carbon. 2nd and 3rd gen don't need adaptors as they have the correct m.2 slot. You must ensure you buy AHCI version not NVME! I have a Samsung SM951 in mine & it's lightning fast!

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Ive just ordered one - to go in a Asrock X99extreme4 which does support NVMe.

Hopefully i can use it as my boot drive to replace a corsair MX200.

Does anyone know if this will fit a dell chromebook 13?

​Ummm yes ummm, you know this thread is about a ssd?

Please can you explain "no warranty"? How can they overturn U.K. Law?

Need one for my calculator, so it could calculate faster!

Thank you my friend...I do!

Guessing you mean GB/s?

There's this adapter (see link below), if you check the item description you'll see all the SSDs that are compatible with that adapter for an X1 Carbon. The only thing I don't know is if this is compatible with a 2nd gen Carbon.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M-2-NGFF-SSD-to-26-Pin-Adapter-for-Lenovo-X1-Carbon-Ultrabook/111946006237?_trksid=p2045573.c100507.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38661%26meid%3Dc6152bfd9ae14d2388465f8d8fec5c1b%26pid%3D100507%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26

Thank you for your simple and great explanation. I won't order this one then! As it didn't have a hdd in I'm struggling to figure out which one I actually need so I'll continue the hunt. The laptop came into us as faulty (liquid damage) and still had Lenovo warranty so I contacted them and they actually sent someone out to us who swapped the motherboard so it's as good as new inside and if it doesn't cost the earth to fix I'd love to get it working.

Would any of you kind souls know if this would fit in a Lenovo X1 Carbon 2nd Gen (2014)? I have one with no HDD and I really want to get it up and running....

i think/hope you can boot off these on a z97 mobo too, Dunno if 960 evo will be cheaper.
Might go for M.2 when it gets a bit lower in price, MeinKraft needs it.

Dual 32 core AMD mobo, 64 cores, 128 threads. AMD Naples. Better specs than anything Intel has but quad channel memory bandwidth instead of six channel. If the IPC is close to Intel then it's a major coup for AMD in the server market and high end professional market.

Waiting for what dude?

I'm waiting for Kaby Lake now, no rush :smiley:

That, or this 64 core 128 thread monster >

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-naples-32-core-cpu-benchmarks-leaked/

Oops just realised it's a wccftech link, shame on me :disappointed:

Do I need it. No.
Do I want it. Yes.

Must try and hold off until Black Friday.

Good deal , these are nice I have the Samsung 950 pro and you get some nice performance out of them. OS load quite fast but be warned not all motherboards support OS boot from them, only the newer boards x99 and z170 seem to allow it.