Pretty cheap deal, nearest price I could find was £89.99 on amazon. Novatech are reliable for anyone with doubts.
SSD has read speed : 2800MB/s
write speed : 1100MB/s
Top comments
K1LLER_HORNET
2 Oct 1611#2
Do I need it. No.
Do I want it. Yes.
Must try and hold off until Black Friday.
SteadVex
2 Oct 164#20
I bought an nvme drive, waste of money to me (spent a long time debating, but wanted to know first hand it was!), no faster than a fast ssd in real world usage, although benchmarks are nice!
suppose if I run a ton of sql vm's it would help...
I won't lie, I was excited when I popped it in mind!
saying that, its a good price :smiley:
robodan918
2 Oct 163#3
The pm has much lower performance than the Sm
Also since it's an oem sku there's no warranty
Save your money, go for the 950 pro or upcoming 960 pro
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s1m0n1980
2 Oct 162#1
Good deal , these are nice I have the Samsung 950 pro and you get some nice performance out of them. OS load quite fast but be warned not all motherboards support OS boot from them, only the newer boards x99 and z170 seem to allow it.
K1LLER_HORNET
2 Oct 1611#2
Do I need it. No.
Do I want it. Yes.
Must try and hold off until Black Friday.
robodan918
2 Oct 163#3
The pm has much lower performance than the Sm
Also since it's an oem sku there's no warranty
Save your money, go for the 950 pro or upcoming 960 pro
southseakid to robodan918
2 Oct 16#6
or the 960 evo almost as good and a lot cheaper
DragonQ to robodan918
3 Oct 16#40
It's still a PCIe NVMe SSD. It'll spank any SATA based SSD out there and it's cheap! I think I paid around this amount for my 256 GB SATA SSD probably a year ago, it's great how fast things are moving forward on the SSD front.
Oops just realised it's a wccftech link, shame on me :disappointed:
Graham1979
2 Oct 16#5
Waiting for what dude?
fishmaster
2 Oct 16#7
Dual 32 core AMD mobo, 64 cores, 128 threads. AMD Naples. Better specs than anything Intel has but quad channel memory bandwidth instead of six channel. If the IPC is close to Intel then it's a major coup for AMD in the server market and high end professional market.
Wars16
2 Oct 16#8
Would any of you kind souls know if this would fit in a Lenovo X1 Carbon 2nd Gen (2014)? I have one with no HDD and I really want to get it up and running....
Should fit, will it work? Well without doing research I imagine your Lenovo carbon is using AHCI as the controller interface and not NVMe and the socket generation is older so won't be able to maximise the performance if it did work. I'd hazard a guess and say it's not compatible.
GwanGy
2 Oct 16#9
i think/hope you can boot off these on a z97 mobo too, Dunno if 960 evo will be cheaper.
Might go for M.2 when it gets a bit lower in price, MeinKraft needs it.
Thank you for your simple and great explanation. I won't order this one then! As it didn't have a hdd in I'm struggling to figure out which one I actually need so I'll continue the hunt. The laptop came into us as faulty (liquid damage) and still had Lenovo warranty so I contacted them and they actually sent someone out to us who swapped the motherboard so it's as good as new inside and if it doesn't cost the earth to fix I'd love to get it working.
fishmaster
2 Oct 162#13
There's this adapter (see link below), if you check the item description you'll see all the SSDs that are compatible with that adapter for an X1 Carbon. The only thing I don't know is if this is compatible with a 2nd gen Carbon.
That's only compatible with the first gen X1 Carbon. 2nd and 3rd gen don't need adaptors as they have the correct m.2 slot. You must ensure you buy AHCI version not NVME! I have a Samsung SM951 in mine & it's lightning fast!
Wars16 to reebuk
2 Oct 16#25
Magic, just ordered one from eBay for £65 including postage. Hopefully that's all it needs but I suspect the fingerprint reader and keyboard may need changing too.... Still, £110 for the laptop back to perfect isn't bad really!
Thanks for your reply.
Wars16 to reebuk
2 Oct 16#27
Have I ordered the wrong one.... As I've not got the original one I can't tell if the notches are correct!
leetron
2 Oct 16#15
Bought this from Novatech last week installed in Asrock Z170 Extreme 4 with i5 6600K. My first M.2!
Cold boot from button press to desktop in ~8secs...
I'm getting 3100 MB/s READ & 1400 MB/s WRITE via Disk Mark...pretty pleased!
As an aside, for anyone interested the Extreme4 is great for the price (£108 Amazon). Got my i5 at 4.8GHZ stable...some nice features at the budget end: onboard power & reset buttons, USB 3.1 type A and dual bios chips.
TomScrut to leetron
3 Oct 16#37
That's with the PM, not the SM? Or is the SM only faster with random?
PR1
2 Oct 16#16
Guessing you mean GB/s?
leetron
2 Oct 16#17
Thank you my friend...I do!
waleed786
2 Oct 16#18
Need one for my calculator, so it could calculate faster!
Cattle
2 Oct 161#19
Please can you explain "no warranty"? How can they overturn U.K. Law?
Horrorwood to Cattle
2 Oct 16#21
They can write it, doesn't mean its legal.
SteadVex
2 Oct 164#20
I bought an nvme drive, waste of money to me (spent a long time debating, but wanted to know first hand it was!), no faster than a fast ssd in real world usage, although benchmarks are nice!
suppose if I run a ton of sql vm's it would help...
I won't lie, I was excited when I popped it in mind!
saying that, its a good price :smiley:
fishmaster to SteadVex
2 Oct 16#28
Your boot time will be fast :smiley::stuck_out_tongue:
ws007
2 Oct 162#22
Ummm yes ummm, you know this thread is about a ssd?
Spenceey
2 Oct 16#23
Does anyone know if this will fit a dell chromebook 13?
ColG
2 Oct 16#24
Ive just ordered one - to go in a Asrock X99extreme4 which does support NVMe.
Hopefully i can use it as my boot drive to replace a corsair MX200.
fishmaster
2 Oct 16#26
context
ˈkɒntɛkst/Submit
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
"the proposals need to be considered in the context of new European directives"
synonyms: circumstances, conditions, surroundings, factors, state of affairs; More
the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.
"skilled readers use context to construct meaning from words as they are read"
globula_neagra
2 Oct 16#29
thats for the servers industry. it won t be available for everyone
southseakid
2 Oct 161#30
how come they are so fast but cant open programs any quicker or boot any quicker than a standard ssd
K1LLER_HORNET to southseakid
2 Oct 161#31
Most likely down to the law of diminishing returns.
RUGAAL
2 Oct 16#32
Flubit same price
ws007
3 Oct 16#33
hmmmm yeeessss hmmmmm, one or both of us has stopped taking thier pills, ok it`s me, about 5 months ago, but maybe back on them after this.....
GoNz017
3 Oct 16#34
We both know it comes with a warranty, he must be confusing it with no support for OEM parts.
misrasandeep1
3 Oct 16#35
I have a HP prodesk 400 g3 sff desktop, motherboard is H110 chipset based but don't know the manufacturer. Will it support NVMe boot? How can I know that a particular motherboard supports it, is there any setting in BIOS?
CampGareth
3 Oct 16#36
Oh that's tempting, got a PM951 getting about half the read speed and a third the write speed of the SSD in this deal. Not sure I'll feel it of course but I felt the upgrade from dual SATA SSDs in RAID 0 to this so maybe I'll feel another improvement.
defgimp
3 Oct 16#38
Don't know much about these at all, but the last time Amazon warehouse were having a "sale", I bought this https sandisk 256gb m.2
It was cheap for what it was and that's why I had one with a view to using it at a later date.
Since then, have found out that it is possible to add these cards to a desktop by use of the Pcie card slot which is on the mb internally but you need a card to mount this on in order to utilize it?
I bought one from china that just turns off the computer when you turn it on and another that just won't show up on the system at all?
It could be me, but does anyone out there have a recommendation as to what card I need to fit this memory into to actually use it?
takkischitt
3 Oct 16#39
Is the performance of these really that much more noticeable than a quick SSD drive?
Chuggee to takkischitt
3 Oct 162#41
No. These are useful for deep queue operations such as server databases. Apart from those extreme use scenarios, no.
takkischitt
3 Oct 16#42
Ah ok, thanks for the info
Minstadave
3 Oct 162#43
Makes very little real world difference and mobos only have one or two slots for them. Can only imagine this format will be replaced by something more flexible soon.
Minined
3 Oct 16#44
I got one of these a couple of weeks ago and it's great. Does 3400MB/s read, 1200MB/s write in my system. I thought it was the OEM equivalent of the 960 Evo that they've just announced, but that is meant to have a write speed of 1900MB/s so I'm not sure now. Maybe the difference is just drivers since there are no Samsung drivers for the PM961?
Maddy247
3 Oct 16#45
What's the difference between the pm961 and the sm961
Minined to Maddy247
4 Oct 16#46
They use a different type of flash memory. The read speeds are similar but the write speed of the SM961 is much higher.
RUGAAL
5 Oct 16#47
This or evo 850 m2?
Minined to RUGAAL
7 Oct 16#48
The Evo 850 M2 is SATA based. It's much slower than the PM961 which is PCIe, but you would need to check what your system supports.
leetron
9 Oct 16#49
Not too shabby...Bought from Novatech and installed on Z170 Extreme4
neelsn007
10 Oct 16#50
Would this work in a macbook pro retina 2015?
Q-Tec
16 Oct 16#51
I've bought one of these and installed it as a 2nd M.2 to my boot of a Samsung 950 PRO M.2 NVME drive - but the benchmarks I've taken don't add up! The 950 Pro should be the faster drive and if I run the Samsung Magician software it says it is - but Crystal Disk Mark reverses the situation and shows the PM961 as the faster drive!
Samsung PM961 M.2
Samsung 950 Pro M.2
It doesn't seem to make sense with Samsung Magician telling me the 950 Pro is massively better than the PM961 and the story flipped with Crystal.
Just for giggles, I removed the 950 Pro and replaced it with the PM961 and installed W10 from USB. It booted into Windows from a cold start in under 20 seconds, including BIOS loading etc. Despite what the Samsung Magician software says, in a real world test the PM961 seems to be very capable - I just wish it had a larger capacity!
Minined
16 Oct 16#52
Not sure what you mean, your Samsung benchmark figures for the PM961 are all higher than the 950's.
Q-Tec
16 Oct 16#53
Bench marks using Samsung Magician say the 950 is faster than the 961.
Bench marks using Crystal Disk show completely the opposite?!
Minined
20 Oct 161#54
According to your Samsung Magician screenshots the 961 has a sequential read speed of 3399MB/s and the 950 does only 1871MB/s. That's not showing the 950 as faster.
Opening post
SSD has read speed : 2800MB/s
write speed : 1100MB/s
Top comments
Do I want it. Yes.
Must try and hold off until Black Friday.
suppose if I run a ton of sql vm's it would help...
I won't lie, I was excited when I popped it in mind!
saying that, its a good price :smiley:
Also since it's an oem sku there's no warranty
Save your money, go for the 950 pro or upcoming 960 pro
All comments (55)
Do I want it. Yes.
Must try and hold off until Black Friday.
Also since it's an oem sku there's no warranty
Save your money, go for the 950 pro or upcoming 960 pro
That, or this 64 core 128 thread monster >
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-naples-32-core-cpu-benchmarks-leaked/
Oops just realised it's a wccftech link, shame on me :disappointed:
Should fit, will it work? Well without doing research I imagine your Lenovo carbon is using AHCI as the controller interface and not NVMe and the socket generation is older so won't be able to maximise the performance if it did work. I'd hazard a guess and say it's not compatible.
Might go for M.2 when it gets a bit lower in price, MeinKraft needs it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M-2-NGFF-SSD-to-26-Pin-Adapter-for-Lenovo-X1-Carbon-Ultrabook/111946006237?_trksid=p2045573.c100507.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38661%26meid%3Dc6152bfd9ae14d2388465f8d8fec5c1b%26pid%3D100507%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26
Thanks for your reply.
Cold boot from button press to desktop in ~8secs...
I'm getting 3100 MB/s READ & 1400 MB/s WRITE via Disk Mark...pretty pleased!
As an aside, for anyone interested the Extreme4 is great for the price (£108 Amazon). Got my i5 at 4.8GHZ stable...some nice features at the budget end: onboard power & reset buttons, USB 3.1 type A and dual bios chips.
suppose if I run a ton of sql vm's it would help...
I won't lie, I was excited when I popped it in mind!
saying that, its a good price :smiley:
Hopefully i can use it as my boot drive to replace a corsair MX200.
ˈkɒntɛkst/Submit
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
"the proposals need to be considered in the context of new European directives"
synonyms: circumstances, conditions, surroundings, factors, state of affairs; More
the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.
"skilled readers use context to construct meaning from words as they are read"
It was cheap for what it was and that's why I had one with a view to using it at a later date.
Since then, have found out that it is possible to add these cards to a desktop by use of the Pcie card slot which is on the mb internally but you need a card to mount this on in order to utilize it?
I bought one from china that just turns off the computer when you turn it on and another that just won't show up on the system at all?
It could be me, but does anyone out there have a recommendation as to what card I need to fit this memory into to actually use it?
Not too shabby...Bought from Novatech and installed on Z170 Extreme4
Samsung PM961 M.2
Samsung 950 Pro M.2
It doesn't seem to make sense with Samsung Magician telling me the 950 Pro is massively better than the PM961 and the story flipped with Crystal.
Just for giggles, I removed the 950 Pro and replaced it with the PM961 and installed W10 from USB. It booted into Windows from a cold start in under 20 seconds, including BIOS loading etc. Despite what the Samsung Magician software says, in a real world test the PM961 seems to be very capable - I just wish it had a larger capacity!
Bench marks using Crystal Disk show completely the opposite?!