from Amazon warehouse. 20% off student discount came out as being around 66 pounds. Also added 2x2TB + 1TB WD Red. The microserver sits in the living room and my partner did not complain yet. So it is pretty quiet
OrribleHarry
2 Nov 16#58
You getting the ML10 or the microserver? Personally I'd get the ML10 as its much faster, additionally the extra PCI means it would make a much better whole house PVR TV server.
chatlow
2 Nov 161#57
Yeah my next post said to ignore this as I read afterwards and found the new cash deal. Buying from laptopsdirect as they offer same but with cheaper delivery. good find
tezray
2 Nov 16#56
This server will not take Non ecc memory it must be ecc thats why you look for ram with the e on the end otherwise i would have used non ecc and so many others on homeservershow forum
chatlow
2 Nov 16#47
118 in total inc vat when going for 9.99 delivery and 60 cash back. maths on here is superb. Anyway the small print of cash back deal says must be invoiced and delivered by 31st Oct so I don't want to risk it and not going for this
Shame.
OrribleHarry to chatlow
2 Nov 16#55
It's been extended till end of Jan and now has £60 cash back.
Herc
2 Nov 16#53
Doesn't have to be ECC does it? I know the dell server I bought recently you can use either and mix and match!
CampGareth to Herc
2 Nov 16#54
Doesn't have to be but it's highly recommended. For instance if you wanted to use this microserver as a NAS you'd want to maintain data integrity. There's no guarantee of that with non-ECC RAM. Heck even with ECC you're not immune, it just gives you a much higher chance of catching and correcting it.
dante2000
31 Oct 161#13
bought one earlier, added 16 GB RAM for 66 pounds and i3 CPU from eBay for 45 pounds. Runs VSphere without any problems.
Splather to dante2000
31 Oct 16#19
I put an i3 3240 in mine last week. Night and day! Can I ask which ram you picked up? As I understand it it's a specific type that's needed so some advice from someone who's done it correctly would be appreciated.
Taylor1892 to dante2000
2 Nov 16#52
Where did you get ECC RAM from £66? Share please!
tezray
2 Nov 16#51
i have just bought something similar but the gen8 has three nics one for ilo and two normal. my limitation was putting a graphics card in for light gaming a gtx 750ti will go in but makes the server hot and noisy good little thing if used as a server but otherwise would save a bit more and get a dell t20
CampGareth
2 Nov 16#50
Looked at this but thought I could do better by compromising a little. Found a xeon E5506 (nehalem, so first of the i3/5/7 lines) with 16GB registered ecc ddr3 (registered is important because that stuff's way cheaper than just ecc), 12 x 3.5" drive bays for £95.
Net result is more CPU power and the option for a second CPU, very similar efficiency but more overall power consumption, more RAM and greater maximum RAM capacity, 3x more drive bays, 4 NICs for 2x the bandwidth, a bigger chassis and all for the price of a microserver on a good day. Since I wanted drive bays and NICs but cared less for size this was ideal.
chatlow
2 Nov 16#49
Laptopdirect also offer same price but £5 p&p instead of 10. That said ebuyer is only a fiver extra and more reputable so may go with them
chatlow
2 Nov 16#48
ignore above post by me, a new november cashback offer started, so it's £60 back now as long as purchased and received between Nov and Feb 2017. I am buying :-)
tezray
2 Nov 16#46
The xeon version has a better heatsink if you can find it for sale it is massively expensive.
simonprr
2 Nov 16#45
Thanks! Interesting that they sell it with the i3 cpu when it's TDP it's more than the gen8 is designed for... Unless that one has a different heatsink?
Do you mind having a look at ilo and letting me know your cpu temp and fan speed?
install looks easy just swapping the CPU and applying thermal paste so not sure why it will void warranty!?
tan159
1 Nov 16#44
Is this any good for a general purpose PC?
I am using a n54l as a htpc/general PC. That is a bit laggy but gets the job done.
Splather
1 Nov 161#43
That's the one! Cheaper here, in stock and (I think) 12 months warranty
Has anyone tried moving a drive from N54L to one of these?
It was fine to stick os from N40L into N54L and it booted without issues, but there are more differences i guess this time.
(Windows Home Server )
OrribleHarry to cynikill
1 Nov 16#40
Going from AMD architecture to Intel is very unlikely to boot.
tezray to cynikill
1 Nov 16#42
I have seen someone do it by removing all devices possible in safe mode then switching over but it would be best to start again
_Grabble_
1 Nov 16#41
For this price it's a no-brainer... they're superb. Just set a gen 8 up at home from a similar money back deal.
simonprr
1 Nov 16#38
Thanks for the info. What's the exact cpu? is it i3 3240 3m cache 3.40ghz SKT1155?
good machine ... re fan noise.. the fan for some reason, is linked to the inbuilt raid controller, if you dont use your drives thru the b120i the fan will run at something like 26% (a bit noisy( whereas if you run your disks thru the RC the fan will drop back to 6% after startup. the disks can be set as jbod rather than any "real" raid. I might be completely wrong ofc. the other thing about heat is that the i3 will only give out 55w when running at 100% thats pretty rare on my machine.
OrribleHarry to GwanGy
1 Nov 16#35
Yes that's correct, but TBH software RAID is better in the vast majority of situations anyway.
tezray to GwanGy
1 Nov 16#37
thats right i swapped to b120i to get it quieter but fan running at 26 percent to 32 percent in a front room is very noisy. without the new drives it was 10 percent and was lovely and quiet. need to get it in the loft really
OrribleHarry
1 Nov 16#36
Update: the cash back is up to £60 now on the microserver and the ML10 gen9 until end of Jan.
OrribleHarry
1 Nov 16#33
Absolutely not a design fault, the machine is merely compensating for the increased heat loading, the more heat you dissipate within the case the more it needs to exhaust out! If the drives are running really hot then this is the issue not the machine.
Scotty92
1 Nov 161#32
I have the ml10v2 gen8 running esxi, great machine with low power consumption
tezray
1 Nov 16#31
No it was fine. i have looked into it the graphics card can increase it a bit. it was runnig quiet until i put the two 3tb hard drives in they run hotter than my old drives and the ilo makes the fan run faster other people have a lot more powerful cpus in and are fine i cant afford to change my hard drives to make it queiter and which ones would i go for. if i take out the drives it is quiet again look around and you will see noise and fan problems its a design fault
piginabox
1 Nov 16#30
What is the CPU like for virtualisation? Works with ESXi? Apologies if already answered.
tezray
31 Oct 16#18
I dont like mine anymore its too noisy since i put 2x 3tb hard drives in it. got a graphics card and upgraded to 16gb ram and an i3 3240. far too loud nothing i can do about it. looking for a replacement like the dell t20 but really want a lenovo ts140 but they are loads of money. I wouldn't recommend one of these to anyone anymore too unpredictable with noise levels
OrribleHarry to tezray
1 Nov 161#29
Sounds like you have broken it tinkering and now your blaming the machine....
Changing the CPU you have increased the heat loading by 57% (55w vs 35w) of course it will need to up it's cooling to keep up. You can't blame the machine for that, it's basic physics!
Splather
1 Nov 16#28
I've not noticed an increase in noise, but then mine is in a cupboard.
voted cold, how the price has been allowed to be EX VAT for 14 hours gaining false heat i dunno
real price is ~£123 delivered after cashback which iirc isn't even that cheap?
tezray
31 Oct 161#20
you need to look for ram that is ecc it will need the E on the end like 12800e. if it has r its no good. look around on facebook forums i got 16gb for £20 6 months ago. my i3 3240 did make a massive difference. i bought a whole pc with the cpu and 1tb hard drive for £50 swapped the cpu with the g1610t and swapped the 1tb with a 500gb i had and sold on for £50 to get my money back there is an i5 cpu that is cheap that will use esxi properly cant remember model though
Splather to tezray
1 Nov 16#26
Nice one, thank you
simonprr
1 Nov 16#25
so its worth it? I thought the i3 only gave a small performance improvement over the g1610t?
does it increase the speed of the fan and therefore noise?
tezray
1 Nov 16#24
depends what you use the gen 7 for mine couldnt keep up with htpc duties and other stuff so gave to my sister she only uses it as a htpc which i jump on every now and then to update and i get constant up to date offsite backup using crashplan perfect
pc5020
31 Oct 162#23
Keeping my N54L until it dies, best thing I've ever bought, rock solid and soooo useful!
lordminty
31 Oct 162#22
Must admit I've gone off these, they aren't the bargain the old models were and after you've kitted it out with drives, RAM etc. you might as well build something yourself.
Northerndave
31 Oct 161#21
Mine still in box from deal posted months ago, along with extra RAM and 2 x 3TB HDD's. One day if I build it, he will come !
itm
31 Oct 16#17
About £178 after VAT and delivery, so net £123? I also noticed that the cashback terms are purchase AND delivery by Oct 31st. I ordered (from eBuyer in the end, for the 6% Quidco cashback) yesterday (30th), and have just discovered that it's not being delivered until tomorrow (Nov 1st) - even though the page on eBuyer said "next day" delivery (with no qualifier for Sunday orders). Fingers crossed HP will be lenient when I submit the cashback form...
flang
31 Oct 162#14
Tempting to replace my old N54L which has now been running 24/7 for just over 2 and a half years. :smiley::smiley:
rhaegox to flang
31 Oct 163#16
Don't! Because you if you upgrade, I will have to aswell!!
paulsnoop
31 Oct 16#15
If you want bigger than you would be much better off with the Xeon powered Dell T20 for a little more.
JoeSpur
31 Oct 161#12
If I had longer to think about it I would have probably ended up buying another. They are fantastic!
BigYoSpeck
31 Oct 161#11
Regular price: £168.20
Now £113.21 *
*Price after £55.00 Cashback
Ian2014
31 Oct 161#9
looks like the £46 cashback is also without VAT - that becomes £55 off VAT price
So looks like £123.17 with delivery and cashback
OrribleHarry to Ian2014
31 Oct 161#10
Just press "show Inc VAT" top right.....simples!
OrribleHarry
31 Oct 16#8
Ends today so need to be quick
OrribleHarry
31 Oct 161#7
Or for £30ish more it's big brother better buy if you can live with its dimensions as it has more PCI slots.
Magnets
31 Oct 16#6
£168.20 + £9.95 del
-46 cashback
£132.15
daveo78
31 Oct 16#5
Stoppit! So damn tempting to upgrade my gen 7
johnthehuman
31 Oct 163#1
Not sure your maths is working today.
£178.15 - £46 != £94.34.
Also their prices are ex. VAT.
CampGareth to johnthehuman
31 Oct 162#2
Seconding that, product is £168.20 after VAT, 46 pounds off that is £122.20, then delivery is extra on top.
Yuzepe to johnthehuman
31 Oct 162#4
4 is pretty close to 7... :stuck_out_tongue: (num keypad)
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Well known server, you can find specs on deal or here:
https://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1039108/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen8-intel-celeron-g1610t-dual-core-.30ghz-mb-4-x-non-hotplug-
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£178.15 - £46 != £94.34.
Also their prices are ex. VAT.
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I bought:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0064R7LH8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
from Amazon warehouse. 20% off student discount came out as being around 66 pounds. Also added 2x2TB + 1TB WD Red. The microserver sits in the living room and my partner did not complain yet. So it is pretty quiet
Shame.
Net result is more CPU power and the option for a second CPU, very similar efficiency but more overall power consumption, more RAM and greater maximum RAM capacity, 3x more drive bays, 4 NICs for 2x the bandwidth, a bigger chassis and all for the price of a microserver on a good day. Since I wanted drive bays and NICs but cared less for size this was ideal.
Do you mind having a look at ilo and letting me know your cpu temp and fan speed?
install looks easy just swapping the CPU and applying thermal paste so not sure why it will void warranty!?
I am using a n54l as a htpc/general PC. That is a bit laggy but gets the job done.
https://uk.m.webuy.com/product-detail/computing/intel-processors/core-i3-3240-3.4ghz-lga1155/scpuinti33240
It was fine to stick os from N40L into N54L and it booted without issues, but there are more differences i guess this time.
(Windows Home Server )
Eg.. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i3-3240-Processor-3M-Cache-3-40-GHz-SR0RH-SKT1155-/262699569570?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
Changing the CPU you have increased the heat loading by 57% (55w vs 35w) of course it will need to up it's cooling to keep up. You can't blame the machine for that, it's basic physics!
The gen8 with the i3 already installed (and a 1TB drive) goes for about £500 here
http://www.ebuyer.com/748551
Here's the upgrade guide I used. Took me about 15-20 mins to do. In there the author says the i3 is 65% more powerful than the G1610T.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/how-to-upgrade-the-processor-on-hp-microserver-gen8-499430.shtml
real price is ~£123 delivered after cashback which iirc isn't even that cheap?
does it increase the speed of the fan and therefore noise?
Now £113.21 *
*Price after £55.00 Cashback
So looks like £123.17 with delivery and cashback
-46 cashback
£132.15
£178.15 - £46 != £94.34.
Also their prices are ex. VAT.