Good luck at the doctors :laughing:

Heat just for the lovely story.

I know people are jumping up and down about this, but I still don't see the point. For me the thermostat works in the background. having setup days, times, temperature etc it should work 24x7 without any intervention and without bothering me with alerts or anything.

happy for you if you want a sophisticated intelligent system installed for turning a boiler on/off but not for me. thanks.

Hope you haven't broken out in a case of hives! :confused:

Had an engineer in today for a Boiler Service under the Homecare banner (got it free with a new mortgage) and dropped in the fact my thermostat was playing up, he said "you want a digital one" so I said "Like Hive?" and he proceeded to just bad mouth the last person who serviced the boiler and recommend a £250 part that might be needed in the future...

No Hive here sadly.

No, you need the heating thermostat and receiver which is wired into your boiler for it to control your heating

evohome system.

Personally I would go for a multi room solution such as an evohome kit, it allows you to control the temps of each room separately, much better cost savings and all the convenience of a modern smart system

​yes and no. yes on the first part and the engineer will offer you the hive just say your controls are playing up..

Just spoke to British Gas...not sure if I've been fobbed off....

Bloke said to get the reduced price of £149 I would need to be a Homecare customer. HOWEVER, the deal is available ONLY IF an engineer has to attend to fix a fault with the boiler. No fault to attend to - no deal.

The only offer is Hive fully installed for £249 with £50 cashback making it £199 or upgraded for £199 with £40 cashback making it £159

https://www.britishgas.co.uk/products-and-services/hive-active-heating.html#caveats2

How about using the smart phone with the app installed on it, would it work as a control?

But your not getting Hive heating controls

Yes it will work, your current wireless controls will be replaced by the Hive controls-

Yes it does

​I have a Vaillant Combi Boiler that currently runs with a wireless thermostat and receiver (A British Gas one) that is placed by the boiler. The Hive will connect easily to this system and apparently it's an easy job to do too. I guess to be 100% sure that your boiler is compatible, I would speak to British Gas in advance or check their website.

Switch your energy package and choose the one which comes with 'smart lights and plug kit'. You get 1 Hive Hub, 1 Hive Active Plug, 2 Hive Active Lights. For me, I pay £20 more on my fuel over a year and I get more! Sounds good?

would this work with a valiant boiler with a wireless controller?

I work for BG. engineer needs to be out to fix your boiler or to do a service. current stat needs to be dead OR... If nothing is wrong with the current thermostat and it's quiet they can offer an in-day install at the same price. this has been the case since Hive 2 came out.

From HIVE webchat - The £149 is only available if a British Gas engineer is attending a Homecare customer whose thermostat is faulty, if they have the Hive equipment with them the engineer can offer an in-day cost of £149.

Hi, I did ring BG this morning tying to get the offer and they said it was only £149 if an engineer is on-site, says your boiler controls are dead, rings them for authorisation, then they can offer the £149 price. He said other than that the best price is paying £249 on their website and claiming £50 back post install.
I would really like one of these as we have a combi boiler but no thermostats - so I assume we would save straight away!
Has any one got the £149 price without an engineers say so and if so how?
Many thanks in advance.

My new house a 10 year old boiler and signed up to homecare last month - saved me a load of money on the repair to the boiler. It does not have a thermostat so I'd jump at the chance to get Hive for £149 unfortunately the link supplied takes me to the BG website which says pay £249 and claim £50 cashback!

I am not with BT and looking to change thermostat/heat control device. Do I have to take yearly plan with them? or can I just call to buy and fit? please advise.

I had a Nest installed in February free of charge by Npower. Not something I had ever been bothered about but as it was due to a trial thing they offered me I said yes.
Now I have had it I wouldn't be without it.
We have a fairly typical house I would say. Mon - Thur during day house is empty usually and then Friday wife is off with youngest. Weekends can vary from out all day to lazy weekends.
Set the app on both mine and the wifes phone it detects you are 'away' so temporarily shuts down.
You can force it away if you are going to be away for a longer period of time if just a day or whatever.
It detects the weather outside and the temperature inside so we have it set up for 20C at 16:15 for when collecting the kids back from school and so if particularly cold it would maybe switch auto detect and switch the heating on from 15:30 so it was 20C for when we walked in at 16:15.
I guess this technically means you are using more energy but not got the who oooh it is cold it will be ok in 30 mins or so scenario.

Same thing in the winter mornings set for 6:15 and it will warm to 18C for that time so you are not waking to a cold house.

Ultimately it is a bit of a gadget but I think you will find it extremely useful once you have had it.

Which is fine if you have a totally ordered life and know where you are going to be every hour of the day or night, 365 days a year

Not out of the box.

I've setup HiveKit (https://github.com/njpatel/hivekit) on my own server, so it works with HomeKit/Siri in iOS 10. You'll need a home server or something like a raspberry pi though.

Question is... Hive or Nest?!

Good price if you're with BG.

I have the Hive thermostat & hub at my home. I did have a new Worcester boiler fitted through British Gas at the time as my old boiler had it days months ago. Brilliant gadget. I have added things like the Hive light bulbs and motion sensors and the hive plug. All working through the hub. I love being able to control the heating, turn on & off the lighting etc etc all from the app on my phone/iPad.
Like I said IMO a brilliant setup and I for one can't recommend it enough.

For those not on BG, got mine on amazon, think list price was 199 with installation, used flubbit and got it for 188.

My boiler is ancient. The installer was here for ages though as my heating has always come on with the hot water so he did more than he should really to get it all working properly.

Heat added. It's gonna get hot hot, hot here!

£99 for just a shiny new thermostat is not worth the upgrade. I'm waiting till it's nearer £50

can the Hive 2 adjust the temperatures on hot UK deals; remotely via the HUKD app? ;-)

Seriously heat (added manually) to OP.

Still considering a self install. is it easy? I have a thermostat in the hall, and heating / water / boiler controller (Horsman?) in the kitchen?

cheers, thought so. love these experts..... cheers

You won't be charged £3 a month for Hive....boiler IQ is a different product that has a £3 charge per month...

£99 to upgrade to hive 2, you can do this by post and set up yourself. Contact British gas.

The £149 hive is only for faulty controls, boiler IQ is separate but does use the same hub as hive. £3 a month is for boiler IQ not hive.

I have Hive 1 and love it, we saved money by only turning the heating on when we needed it rather than setting the timer, I work different times so never know when I will be home.

What do I need to change to get Hive 2, I know it's a different thermostat but is there anything else that needs changing? I'm thinking of adding the remote lighting.

cheers dude. it is an expensive gadget but like I said i like my gads

I'll give you some heat for the craftsmanship of the story, kept me glued to find the outcome.

​and that's not even guaranteed. Can I tell them to go away unless they give me that price?

So Basicly you have to have BG home care to get this price. Not sure why so much heat.

no, and as it was not discussed I won't be paying it. as they say all calls are recorded..... neither engineer or call center who took payment said anything. I will keep an eye on the dd.

How does this compare to other smart controllers, such as Nest?

For those interested, there's a device handler available for smartthings which works great along with a presence device.

Yes the boiler IQ is a free installation but there will be a £3 charge a month on top of your monthly contract for homecare.

This should of been explained when you spoke to the call centre to set up an account.

you are right, my honeywell did well. This is a gadget but a very nice gadget and I like gadgets. have I got more money than sense? no i'm £149 worse off and I had no sense to loose in the first place but it is a cool gadget.

£3 a month subs? I have not been charged that but yes it is a greenstar

Doesn't this do what a wireless thermostat would do? I can programme times and stuff on my Honeywell one. Only difference would be the turning on lights whilst I'm away, but doesn't a timer plug not do that?

Just trying to understand what this actually does different. £40 for a single remote plug seems a bit steep too

This offer is only for customers who have a compatible Worcester boiler so that the boiler IQ can be fitted (£3 a month subscription) to qualify for a £149 hive 2 fitted

I'm a BG engineer in Leicestershire

Can you get the Hive heating 2 from BG but pay it back over you gas and electric bill ? Just wondering.

Heat added though :smiley:

Think this is nationwide offer at moment. Offered last week at my boiler check but already bgot Netatmo. Mum and dad also offered. They took it for £149 and the engineer threw in a free carbon monoxide detector. Engineers are on commission no doubt but decent deal.

I need one installing, can you do it cheaper than your employers?

Standard in-day special offer. If offered and installed on the day they normally do it for £50 less. £149 must be limited introductory offer for brand new product. I got HIVE installed other day by my father who's a BG engineer. Highly recommend it.

Uncontrolled heat added :smile:

BG website.... £249. i was wrong on the 99p my mistake sorry

can a NON BT customer get this in any way ? I am having a OldCombi Boiler , Valliant TimeSwitch 120 , and the programmer is ibuilt and its pain to use it . Even after looking at the manul, I am not able to program it , So every night having trouble to come downstairs for switching ON/Off. Will this work and how to get one at this price please ?

well for a start when was it ever 250quid.??? British gas had this going months ago at 150 and I got mine installed in May at that price, reduced from 200. where did 250 come from?????????????????

Everyone has different needs. I have a holiday let property which is more than an hours drive away. Someone books at the last minute... Easy - just put the heating on schedule remotely. Once they have left put it onto frost protection. Customers change the setting to manual override... Again easy to change back to schedule ready for the next customer.

I do have a Honeywell on my own house as a 'luxury' buy. I don't keep regular hours so a programmed timer will be heating the house when I am not in. I can just switch the heating on when I leave work. The Honeywell has the benefit of being able to cope with multiple room temperatures but is more expensive

Could the engineer advise how to get this price elsewhere please?

​that's thermostat only, you need a hub and a receiver to make it all work

yep, forgot about that, ordering a switch now....

out of intrest are the maintence packages any good? Wheres the best best place to buy them discounted?
cheers

Had this on a dual zone system for about a year. Its good and works well. The official app is easy to use. It isnt as intuitive or useful as some internet thermostats e.g. with many you can say 'I want the upstairs to be 21 degrees by 6am' and it uses the outside temperature and knowledge of how long your system takes to come to heat to work out when it should turn the heating on. With Hive you just set the actual on/off times. Setting holiday mode via the app is useful as it turning the system on earlier or off if I'm going to be home early/late. The version 2 thermostats here look good and you can get colour co-ordinated surrounds from Hive. At this price I would recommend it. Be aware you need the Hive Hub plugging into your router.

That's what I'm planning on, as well as activating my robot vacuum cleaner. Trying to get it to open my observatory at the moment with a pi and some linear actuators, and activate my anti cat defence system.

No. Someone has written some software referred to in an earlier post (hivekit), but according to the GitHub page it won't currently work as hive have updated their API.
Also having had a new boiler installed after I got hive, I've found out it doesn't support opentherm.

£249 online, If they are already at your property doing a repair they can do it for £200, as no need for the extra £49 call out/installation charge, however if there is a 'fault' with your controls they can do it with authorisation for £149.

If you aren't zoning your heating...no, can't be arsed to go through with this again <3

Yes I got the same deal from BG. I had just started their boiler maintenance contract.

Correct

So is it just £150 payment you don't have to buy extra parts for hive receiver or anything else from them?

Was looking on their website but confused

Does Hive have Apple Home-kit compatibility?

Am I missing something or... where is this deal?

Do I have to sign up to a HomeCare package then ask the engineer when they eventually come round? a HomeCare package surely more than wipes out the £100 saving.

I already have Hive v1 (got it free a couple years back for switching to a cheaper BG tarriff) but I'm about to move to a new house so considering getting it again.

If you have homecare with BG you can get it for £99 from the engineer, just say you boiler controls are faulty.

Hope you get your hives sorted, nasty business that.

I don't know if I can forgive Hive for that annoyingly catchy song on their advert....

We go to stay with my wife's family at Christmas, in Norn Iron. It's always a rush when leaving the house. Last year I forgot to turn the heating and water off, but I just did it from the app after getting to the airport. I am not saying that it paid for itself in one week, but it was a convenience feature that I appreciated. It is also nice to be able to turn the heating ON a few hours before we got home, so we didn't get back to a cold house.

I was sceptical at first too - and I'm a gadget freak.

If I forget to turn the heating off when I leave, it reminds me. If I'm out longer than I expect, or come back sooner, I can change the temp so I don't come back to a cold house/heat up an empty house. Also, there's little things, like not having to get out of bed to turn up the temperature.

It also works with Amazon Echo, but in my case since everyone here uses iOS, I've setup HiveKit (https://github.com/njpatel/hivekit), which means I can just say "hey Siri, turn the heating up to 20 degrees".

It's definitely not something you *need*, but it's nice to have. Keep an eye on Amazon Warehouse deals too - I paid £80 for mine from there, and it took about 20 minutes to install myself.

You can also integrate it nicely with IFTTT. Like saying turn the heating on when the outside temperature drops below a certain temperature.

I'm guessing Hive works with the IFTTT app as well, which is cool.

:-)

yep I get your point, but then what else am i going to use my Amazon Echo for? Bored with telling it to turn on my Philips Hue lights, now I have heat at my voice command, yay!

I wonder how much British Gas is offering as a bounty for the first proper hack of this :P

I know people are jumping up and down about this, but I still don't see the point. For me the thermostat works in the background. having setup days, times, temperature etc it should work 24x7 without any intervention and without bothering me with alerts or anything.

happy for you if you want a sophisticated intelligent system installed for turning a boiler on/off but not for me. thanks.

you are correct and thanks for pointing out..... therefore looks like a good deal from BG

yes, without the hub you can't do nada with just the stat. the hub allows you to connect to your system from your phone or tablet

£99 in Screwfix http://www.screwfix.com/p/hive-hah2pmz-active-heating-multi-zone-thermostat/9625k

Yeah that's the multizone one, the full stat is £180 from screwfix

and i dont think it includes the hub and it won't do hot water..... I think the screwfix is only the stat.

Got my Hive 2 for £119 from Amazon last November and self installed. Very nice bit of kit. Still resisting the temptation to use the heating in the 2nd half of the year...

Are you getting that rash sorted at the doctors? :laughing:

bargain. love my hive. I did pay 120 for mine but it was from amazon clearing out hive 1 (bg engineer just installed v2 for me anyway)..

would be interested at this price, any info on how to get it at this price?

what is your question? I am a British gas electrician that installs hive active heating, 150 is a great price for just the hive, If he has been out to have a look then he will only take an hour to install the hive

Heat just for the lovely story.

Sounds like a Virgin Media deal where you might need to track down an engineer in your area who can offer you something.... Unless of course anybody has any links. I'm considering installing in a new place i'm moving into but think i require two zones as their is underfloor heating downstairs.

Hope you haven't broken out in a case of hives! :confused:

£149.99 straight payment... or after cashback ?

HOT - got one a few weeks ago and couldn't recommend it enough.

Do you go on to a different, more expensive fuel package? If not, seems like a good price to me. Will follow and see how you get on later today

Sounds good to me

Good luck at the doctors :laughing: