Good to see Iceland's reputation being damaged by their sharp practice.
Newbold
7 Jun 17#204
Good job - well done. They agreed to send a £25 goodwill voucher in the end, to finalise the matter, so I left it at that.
I see the poisonous Mail is still at it, though, with its fake news and equally fake offers:
The usual story - stocks widely unavailable again.
soldierboy001
7 Jun 17#203
Thanks for this CE, but nothing different than we all expected.
TheChiefExecutive
7 Jun 171#202
7th June 2017 - 8 months later The Advertising Standards Authority finally got arounnd to ruling this stunt broke the advertising rules - it wasn't 'legal, decent, honest and truthful'.
The full ruling reveals some Iceland stores had as few as 10 jars available, and some none at all. You can read the ruling here ASA Ruling
Before you ask - as with all ASA rulings, no one gets fined, no one gets a free jar of Marmite. If you don't like the Daily Mail and Iceland as a result don't spend your money with them.
Newbold
13 Apr 17#201
Thanks for the update - at least you'll have the satisfaction of having cost Iceland and the Wail (fresh from having to pay out £2m+ damages to Melania Trump) [Melania Trump - An Apology By Daily Mail and Mailonline] a fair bit of time and money.
I took a different route, pushed Iceland hard on the way it had been handled, and received £25 from them as an apology.
TheChiefExecutive
13 Apr 17#200
The Advertising Standards Authority still hasn't reached a decision about whether this advertising was 'decent, honest and truthful'. They've been thinking about it for 6 months. Yesterday I tweeted the CEO at the ASA (GuyParker2) and he promised to look into the delay. Shortly afterwards I received an email promising a response by May. You'll see from my post #196 I wasn't expecting much from the ASA and I wasn't disappointed. The Daily Mail and Iceland are laughing all the way to the bank. Don't complain, boycott them. I haven't bought the Mail since, or been to Iceland.
soldierboy001
20 Nov 16#199
Come on Newbold you clown, more info.
Newbold
20 Nov 16#198
Finally - they're paying out. I doubt they'll try that stunt again! :smile:
Newbold
26 Oct 16#197
And Iceland will also be involved in a lot of time wasting very soon if they don't agree to issue a voucher to cover the cost of the 'lost' Marmite. I love exercises like this where companies try to save themselves a few quid in cash but waste thousands in lost time and bad publicity. :smiley:
TheChiefExecutive
26 Oct 16#196
The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is carrying out an investigation into Associated Newspapers (publishers of the Daily Mail) 'Free' Marmite promotion. Associated Newspapers Ltd are the promoter of this offer (not Iceland) so The Daily Mail who has so far responded to their readers saying it is 'nothing to do with them' are about to discover it has everything to do with them. They will be required to account in actual number of jars of Marmite per Iceland store how the promotion was conducted. This will waste hours and hours of their time. They will try and maintain it was Iceland's fault, but as they were the promoter of the offer it was up to the Daily Mail to ensure jars were actually available across a reasonable geographic spread of Iceland stores otherwise the complaints will be upheld.
However if the ASA upholds the complaints the Daily Mail will not be fined, they will not have to refund any purchaser of the newspaper who hoped to exchange the voucher for a 'free' jar of Marmite, nor will the Daily Mail have to give anyone a large 'free' 500g jar of Marmite.
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beencheated
20 Oct 16#195
My local store manager has had many complaints from customers and was apologetic. He agreed to redeem the voucher when new supplies arrive. So other disappointed customers may be able to negotiate the same goodwill gesture from their store. Also awaiting a ruling from the ASA regarding misleading advertising.
Newbold
20 Oct 16#194
Only a small fraction of the people with vouchers managed to get a jar - because Iceland took most of the stocks off the shelves in advance to limit the number of free jars.
There are complaints about it all over their social media pages, but at the moment they're just burying their silly heads in the sand and hoping it will all go away.
It won't - there are enough of us around to put them through a great deal of time, trouble, aggravation and sheer bad publicity if they won't back off, admit they were wrong, apologise, and dish out some appropriate goodwill gestures.
Nice to see that we're all taking different routes to get to the same end. Don't give up - I intend to make sure that Iceland learn a lesson from this, and it will cost them considerably more than a few goodwill gestures! Always a pleasure to tackle companies like Iceland that think they can cheat their customers. :laughing:
Traddles
20 Oct 16#193
Tried to get free jar of Marmite with the Daily Mail offer,Bournemouth,Westbourne,Parkstone did not have any
What a surprise.
beencheated
17 Oct 16#192
Iceland are to blame as they must have asked the Daily Mail to advertise their name on the front page to take advantage of the Tesco/Unilever supply disruption.
anotherbill
17 Oct 16#191
The Sun had a free pizza offer a few weeks ago (in Iceland ) on a Saturday .Went to Iceland around 11am freezer was half full of all available varieties .Assistant was topping up the stock. 3 of us picked up our free pizzas while I was there.
Mostly a Sun reader area .I think the Mail was at fault as no problem with Sun offer.
Newbold
17 Oct 16#190
Back on the shelves now - and plenty of it too. This particular store had just 8 available on Friday morning, according to the manager, and I'm not convinced even that's the truth. Iceland have been, and are still being, very deceitful about this promotion - and probably hoping that it doesn't turn into a news story. Some of us have other ideas. :wink:
beencheated
16 Oct 161#189
Both Iceland and Daily Mail are to blame for this fiasco. Daily Mail to increase sales and Iceland to attract more customers in their shops. Contrast this scam marketing by Iceland with a similar Daily Mail promotion this weekend by Lego and WH Smiths. Unlike Iceland, WHS have lots of extra copies of the newspaper in store together with sufficient stock of the free Lego toy to meet the anticipated demand......Iceland take note of how it should be done....providing less than 10 jars in only some of your stores reflects very badly on how you care for your customers. Many of Iceland's promotions and special offers tend to also run out way before the promotion period ends.
TheChiefExecutive
16 Oct 16#188
They (Daily Mail) will care when the ASA contact them as they are responsible for the legitimacy of the promotion because they promoted it. They cannot simply say 'nothing to do with us'. This is why I don't generally buy the Daily Mail, they have no values.
anotherbill
16 Oct 16#187
Received email from Daily Mail they are not interested .
Thank you for your email regarding the Marmite promotion.
I am sorry you were unable to obtain your "Free Marmite”, The promotion was only valid for the 14th October, this promotion was only while stock lasts promotion and was being fulfilled by Iceland. You may wish to contact Iceland directly I have attached their contact details below.
Iceland Customer Care- 0800 328 0800
I do sincerely apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Should you require any further assistance in this or any other matter, please do not hesitate in contacting us again, either by replying to this email, or calling us on: 0808 272 0808 (calls to this number are free from UK landlines, but mobiles may be charged).
Our advisors are available 7 days a week, from 7am to 7pm.
Kind regards,
Deborah Young
jen4
16 Oct 16#186
Couldn't believe there'd be more than 6 Daily Mail readers who'd dare to be seen in Iceland.
why post silly comments when we are trying to discuss something serious i.e. was Iceland just overwhelmed with the response to this offer or were the supplies kept low on purpose and if so, can anything be done.
annp1
16 Oct 16#185
Couldn't believe there'd be more than 6 Daily Mail readers who'd dare to be seen in Iceland.
beencheated
15 Oct 16#184
I will complain to the ASA and hopefully it will occupy Iceland's Marketing director for a few weeks and prevent him dreaming up any similar 'freebies'.
TheChiefExecutive
15 Oct 161#183
If you complain to the Advertising Standards Authority it only takes about 10 minutes on their website http://www.asa.org.uk. The complaints process will waste hours and hours of the executive's time at the Daily Mail and Iceland as they have to provide loads of detailed information about how they calculated the anticipated demand and the actual number of jars in store. I previously complained to the ASA about a Morrisons 3 For £10 wine promotion where the stock ran dry on day 1 of a 10 day promo. Here is the ruling (complaint upheld). Must have taken Morrisons' execs hours to collate all that info referred to here
Contacted Iceland customer services and they just kept repeating the 'subject to availability' excuse. Refused any goodwill gesture such as issuing a new voucher, gift card or 'rain cheque' to honour the coupon when stock was replenished but admitted to having received many complaints. Daily Mail customer services said there was very limited availability and were logging complaints to indicate areas affected. Very poor reflection on Iceland's marketing department to come up with such a promotion without bothering to ensure adequate stock levels. Everyone should write to Iceland's MD, Malcolm Walker, and ask him how he intends to restore his company's reputation.
TheChiefExecutive
15 Oct 16#181
If you can be bothered you can complain to the Advertising Standards Authority about this promotion under the 'availability' section of the Advertising Code. However even if the complaint is upheld nothing will happen to anyone and you still won't get a free jar of Marmite. Best to vote with your feet and avoid The Daily Mail and Iceland. I have complained - you can see my complaint here
It's blatantly obvious that this promotion was fixed right from the outset. What's not yet clear is whether it was fixed by the Mail, Iceland, or (more likely) both - I imagine both parties to this knew exactly how many 'free' jars would be given out, and how many purchasers of the Mail would therefore be disappointed.
The only surprise is that this story hasn't yet made it to the BBC or one of the papers (obviously not the Mail) - or to MSE, which usually publishes rip-off stories like this.
Maybe the answer is that the average Mail reader isn't bright enough to realise that (s)he's been conned - or that Marmite is just a little bit too, what shall we say, black, for his or her tastes? :neutral_face:
Adams5905
15 Oct 16#179
This was an absolute swizz-I visited a total of four different shops yesterday (I just happened to drive past 'em all-fortunately I didn't go out of my way, nor waste money on fuel)... One store didn't even have any Marmite on display, and the other three all claimed that they'd been sent between four and six jars for this promotion, all of which had gone by mid-morning... I live in rural Cambridgeshire, so these weren't inner-city branches, which must have 'sold out' first thing... I should speculate this is tantamount to fraud on the promoter's behalf... Remember the Hoover 'free flights' fiasco?.. They only backed down and agreed to honour their committment when the government threatened to step in...
flamethrower
15 Oct 16#178
is it possible to return a news paper back for a refund?
cazsilver
15 Oct 161#177
checked 2 Icelands yesterday morning, both didn`t have any marmite - glad I checked before buying the paper, would`ve been annoyed!
Looking through the comments it seems only 1 person actually got it....
soldierboy001
15 Oct 16#176
If you can't say anything sensible don't post.
jrmalley
14 Oct 16#175
Same here, Penzance, Iceland has been out for a couple of days. A waste of time.
elliott316
14 Oct 162#174
mine not only took the product of the shelf they removed the ticket and dressed across nutella to cover the gap
luvsadealdealdeal
14 Oct 162#173
All Icelands will have minimum 24 of this stock item.
Pure scam - the store managers (who aren't stupid) took it off sale the minute they understood their store would be charged the promotional cost of fulfilling the offer.
johnsmith1997
14 Oct 16#172
Yep,I bet you they will all mysteriously re-appear back on the shelves tomorrow (from behind the counter).
johnsmith1997
14 Oct 16#171
Yep,scam.
There never were enough to go around.
Good job I got the paper free from Waitrose.:smiley:
johnsmith1997
14 Oct 16#170
I can believe that.
Bit of a scam to get you to buy the Daily Mail.
My sister went to Iceland Wallington @1400 and were none there.
She said she was told that they were all gone by @1100.I mean wok sort of promo is that,if you know there ain't gonna be enough to go around?
I went to Iceland Worcester Park @1700 and none there either.
Lucky I didn't waste 65p to buy the damn thing,as I got it free with my Waitrose shopping.:smiley:
monkey1999
14 Oct 161#169
Tesco was one of the supermarkets that wasn't screwing over the farmers ?
friiza
14 Oct 161#168
So anyone who doesn't share your opinions must be ignorant and foolish? Bit of a fascist aren't you? Maybe you don't belong in our progressive tolerant society.
Branding everyone who disagrees with you as thick racists only shows your own stupidity and bigotry.
Jenellcas
14 Oct 161#167
What a complete waste of paper
Time and energy, a con, went to two Iceland with my voucher , no stock
I doubt there ever was.
les1938
14 Oct 16#166
Jawohl!
les1938
14 Oct 16#165
Jawohl!
jen4
14 Oct 161#164
my Iceland store said they had been given a total of 6 jars for this promotion.
Newbold
14 Oct 163#163
It's looking increasingly possible that most of this stuff was deliberately removed from shelves either late yesterday or early this morning to limit the number of redemptions. Hardly anybody seems to have been able to find any - even first thing this morning.
Any Iceland staff in here with any evidence, either way, on this theory? :neutral_face:
luvsadealdealdeal
14 Oct 16#162
yeah talk about a nut allergy - I think I just got one trying to understand his logic
urmum
14 Oct 161#161
Fascists like Marmite? Strange...
landros1
14 Oct 16#160
Red top for a reason!
consume
14 Oct 16#159
I tried to get this but life got in the way too much :disappointed: Rip my free Marmite jar
frangipane
14 Oct 16#158
Daily Mirror worse paper EVER....commie rag! Iceland offer a con, none at 8.30am, two stores.
balmots
14 Oct 16#157
That's worth a trip back to Blighty.
pennyfarthing88
14 Oct 161#156
The only thing simple on this thread mate is you.
Morenenth
14 Oct 16#155
hate fail, love marmite
firstofficer
14 Oct 16#154
Nice one..
firstofficer
14 Oct 161#153
2pm.
Mods please expire this.
xenophon
14 Oct 161#152
When? I got one this morning. Of course like most offers you have to get there early. I got mine at 9.
dxx
14 Oct 16#151
Er, how?
jimmybo
14 Oct 161#150
Vent your anger here:
Mail Shop Freephone 0800 083 5000
You'll have to keep selecting the "2" option 'till you speak to an operator - but by then you'll be even more angry!
McHotpoon
14 Oct 16#149
Think probably best expired as oos most Icelands by the sounds and people unable to get offer massively outnumber availability.
sm-1991
14 Oct 16#148
firstofficer
14 Oct 161#147
Cannot vote this hot, sorry. In fact, I cannot vote it cold enough:
Just got badly stung by buying the paper and trying three Icelands, all of which were OOS. Spent a few quid on petrol too going between these..
To put the icing on the cake, the corner shop refused me a refund on the paper.
So all in all - 90 minutes wasted, and a fiver in fuel/paper, not to mention the stress and harassment caused the argument with the greedy shopkeeper..
COLD COLD COLD
I'll get my coat...
schnide
14 Oct 165#146
Seriously, please - if you only do one good thing today, make it trying to stop people reading the Daily Mail and it's vulgar hypocrisy:
soldierboy001
14 Oct 16#145
Australia?
JustExtreme
14 Oct 16#144
I can think of another brown substance that would be far more appropriately smeared over this wilfully ignorant and intolerant publication.
afroylnt
14 Oct 16#143
agree; can't imagine any other country wanting to buy it
xenophon
14 Oct 161#142
And you're their spokesman.
anotherbill
14 Oct 16#141
Tried to complain to Daily Mail and reply was - Sorry we are not currently accepting comments on this article. Quite happy to con me into buying the paper !!
crazylegs
14 Oct 16#140
Put enough Marmite on the bread for about 4 slices there, that would be enough to make me yak and I love Marmite, also there was no butter on the bread and you must have butter to mix the Marmite with sparingly!
xenophon
14 Oct 163#139
I got one this morning. Remoaners and Daily Haters giving me entertainment too. Love it!
soldierboy001
14 Oct 161#138
Does Tesco sell the Daily Mail?
Sara1953gym
14 Oct 16#137
No stock Sheldon in Birmingham.....not happy as reason I went there. Ended up spending money while there, good pull to get customers in!
soldierboy001
14 Oct 16#136
Imports increase buying, Exports decrease selling. I thought I might have to make it simple for you.
Just seen this, so dashed to Iceland, found the last jar in the shop, hid it behind some salad cream ran over to Sainsburys bought The Mail and got my jar, thanks for heads up.
soldierboy001
14 Oct 16#131
Unilever buys in dollars, the American variety.
soldierboy001
14 Oct 16#130
You obviously did not listen to or read the Unilever explanation as to what part of the product comes from imports.
ykhan16
14 Oct 16#129
I can see it from both Tesco's and Unilever's point of view. If it costs more to import good into the UK then common sense should tell you that prices should go up. However what irks me is that prices werent lower when the £ was higher.
Also perhaps manufacturers should consider not closing UK factories to move production abroad (I'm looking at you Cadburys! :man:)
soldierboy001
14 Oct 16#128
I think you maybe missing the point - Unilever sell in every supermarket the world over but want to increase prices in the U.K only?! This on the strength of import taxes and the sterling vs the dollar - on the back of Brexit.
The same products are mostly manufactured right here in Britain' so explain the increase?
I realise local farmers suffer wanting to make money from supermarkets such as Tesco and alike but you can't compare Unilever who make their products for peanuts with your farmers who unfortunately face competing from others Asda' Sainsbury's but more importantly Aldi & Lidl etc[/quotBe
Be careful anyone who has a nut allergy then.
splender
14 Oct 161#127
#126 post, 676 degrees hot, did anyone get one?
youngrobbo
14 Oct 16#126
It's about the headlines, the attacks on a British person right to expect Marmite to not increase. It was a great play of the game from Tesco. I wonder why Tesco though have been willing to increase the price of the German Beer I like to drink by 10p per bottle since Brexit without making a song and dance about it on their website? Damn you Brexit, I can't even drown my sorrows anymore :disappointed:
beencheated
14 Oct 161#125
What a disappointment regarding the free marmite offer with the Daily Mail voucher. Local stores have no stock at all or only had 4 jars delivered.....!!! So the budget per store for this promotion was under £12..shame on you on Iceland for this deception and unethical marketing.
jambone
14 Oct 161#124
Bit of a scam, hardly any stock so expect to buy the paper and not actually be able to redeem the coupon. My store only has enough space for about 6 jars of marmite on the shelf....
les1938
14 Oct 16#123
[quote=boostii]Like the Mail, like Marmite, perfect deal for me :sunglasses:[/quote
All Fascists do.
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 16#122
The price renegotiation with Tesco was not just for Marmite, it was for something like 40 other Unilever brands too. It's just that Marmite is the one the media fixated upon.
I would love to know what the terms of the deal were. Though I bet it is exactly what both sides had in mind at the start. I suspect the whole charade was a clever piece of public opinion manipulation on the part of Tesco. Lot's of the pro-brexiteers are still completely of the opinion, bizarrely, that there will not be, or should not be, any impact on their incomes or outgoings due to Brexit. But, of course, there will. In the first instance there will be price inflation due to the drop in the value of Sterling. Tesco knows that they are going to have to put up prices, and they know that the people who are in denial about the costs of Brexit will not accept the real reason - the drop in the pound - but instead blame "profiteering". By pulling the Unilever products from the online store they have created publicity that has shown that the price rise is coming from the supplier and not themselves. They have shifted the misguided "profiteering" blame from themselves and onto Unilever. Quite brilliant really.
Official, it's Marmite It is Marmite-gate! No Marmite at our store, recon usual offer subject to availability, availability extremely limited (4-6 jars in a store is just not going to cover a tiny % of demand). Booo Iceland and Daily Mail. Just Shocking trying to mislead me with the offer of free Marmite. Good mind to tweet them!
luvsadealdealdeal
14 Oct 16#119
Brewer's [yeast] droop?
becka343
14 Oct 16#118
You're right, it was originally made from the waste yeast sludge from the breweries in Burton. But they get it from all over the country now that Burton has lost all but two breweries. I'm sure it won't be given to them for free any more though. I agree, Unilever are most certainly trying to cash in!
Roundham
14 Oct 161#117
Did anyone get a jar as I visited three stores before 1000 hrs and each one said they had had no delivery.
Bit of a con on Icelands part if you ask me????
jimmybo
14 Oct 16#116
The promo should have said "Mar Might - or probably NOT!"
urmum
14 Oct 16#115
Unilever can stick their Marmite where I am pretty sure it comes from in the first place.
Youngy
14 Oct 161#114
WARNER107
14 Oct 16#113
Yep! I noticed none in my Iceland yesterday. I wasn't aware that the offer was going to be in the mail today. I suspect they were and that is why the shelf was empty!
urmum
14 Oct 161#112
When you say `Little Englanders` I take it you mean the Remainians as they are the minority...
jertzy
14 Oct 16#111
Poor offer, none in Exerer store
lindalindalin
14 Oct 16#110
sold out at mine
Newbold
14 Oct 161#109
Just out of curiosity, how many people actually found any Marmite in Iceland? From reports here I'd guess hardly anybody. As somebody said, this is becoming Marmitegate. :wink:
Adams5905
14 Oct 161#108
No, I think you've misunderstood. I agree that weak Sterling makes imports into this country more expensive-both the feed-in costs of raw materials and labour, and further transport costs compound the issue. However, Marmite is domestically produced using the waste products from UK (not just Burton-on Trent) breweries, and is virtually all sold in Britain (have you ever seen Marmite sold abroad-I have, once in a very expensive NY store catering for ex-pats). As a result, there is no exposure to the Euro, and Unilever's arguments fall flat. Their balance sheet may be converted to Euros, and result in a smaller P/L on this part of their portfolio, but as their labour/raw material/transport costs will also have fallen in real terms, they have no argument... Also, I don't recall Unilever (or Tesco, for that matter) ever offering to droop their prices when Sterling was rampant...
BoB2oo9
14 Oct 162#107
Do what I did and hide it inside a copy of razzle.
splender
14 Oct 16#106
Smell of Marmite-gate
robertwilliamsmith
14 Oct 16#105
Having to buy the Daily Mail and having to go to Iceland makes it the worst deal ever. I'd pay £4.50 not to do either. :smirk:
shasnir
14 Oct 161#104
Very good price.
I personally prefer Tesco's own brand of Marmite "Yeast Extract" 225g - £1.75 and it's a lot cheaper than "real" Marmite.
Beetplek
14 Oct 161#103
Absolutely vile thing, theres no way i`ll buy it never mind having it it my house. Not too keen on Marmite either.
flyingalan
14 Oct 161#102
Cheap trick by Daily Mail, none in stock in Aylesbury Iceland at 11am. Only small empty box on shelf.
Won't be buying Mail again and did Iceland no favour either, was going to grocery shop there but went to Tesco instead. Why offer promotion then not support it, all it does is pi** people off and ruin the brand. (if Mail needs ruining more !)
jrmalley
14 Oct 16#101
I saw this morning a jar of baby food goes up 59% (to over £3) while blaming the drop of the Pound by 18%. Go figure.
fishmaster
14 Oct 16#100
Arguing over Marmite is what makes Britain great.
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa
RUFUS
14 Oct 161#99
No papers left in my newsagent, Tesco has bought all of the papers :wink:
pwuk
14 Oct 16#98
But, but, Shirley it'll give you cancer, or cure it?
Flombard
14 Oct 161#97
They liked the Blackshirts though
Alex235
14 Oct 16#96
Daily Mail and Marmite, two things I never thought I'll see together.
They normally hate mixed relationships :stuck_out_tongue:
WARNER107
14 Oct 16#95
Where do you usually shop? Waitrose, Marks and Sencer? Iceland is the best shop in my town.
simonturner69
14 Oct 16#94
DreamerV
14 Oct 162#93
I went into Iceland around 8:30am and went straight to the Marmite in case it ran out, then bought a couple of things on offer. I went to the tills around 10 - 12 mins later, at which point the cashier said to the gentleman behind me in the queue, "Oh that must have been the last jar she got", and then called out to her colleagues, there's definitely none left there on the shelf is there? Weird thing is that when I picked it up there were about 8 to 10 jars on the shelf. Not even 6 people would have been through the tills whilst I was shopping... It seemed like they had hidden the jars in the back, although obviously I can't say for sure. The lady at the till seemed shocked I had got to the till with 1.
fazz73
14 Oct 16#92
Oh the irony, the daily fail with its anti Eu tales of woe, probably made people vote for brexit In the first place ! Now trying to somewhat redeem itself because Unilever is putting prices up because of the fall in sterling, makes you want to laugh not !
Lesley1944
14 Oct 16#91
Went to local icland at opening this morning no marmite at all they sold all stock 18 jars yesterday. Is this a con
,loads of people where buying the mail this morning to get this offer.
Brownbloke11
14 Oct 16#90
I read the Mail article. It is quite clear the Unilever was attempting a blanket 10% increase on many of their products, where they make a 15% company margin against retailers' 1.5 - 1.8%. The simplest way to keep their prices down is to stop buying their products. Who wants Marmite anyway? Free or not.
cazsilver
14 Oct 162#89
Spend £5 in Waitrose & get the mail free....
Ridgehead
14 Oct 161#88
Some ideas:
Fly swatter
Dog training
Fire lighter
Make hats for a party
Floor/window protection when painting
Well worth the money!
Also had 3 in stock when got mine at around 10.30am (although I did check and then hide one while I went and got the paper)
mofted
14 Oct 16#87
None in my 2 local stores either rang up was just told, 'it's limited stock nothing I can do'
mattmerch
14 Oct 16#86
Marmaggedon
TheMexicaliKid
14 Oct 161#85
Useless waste of 65p. No stock in stores at 9am and staff weren't aware of promotion
elainechambers79
14 Oct 16#84
None in my local Iceland at 9:25.
Bencrossji
14 Oct 16#83
You can't buy me with marmite.
Bunglistik
14 Oct 16#82
Agreed, I don't know which is worse, the Daily Mail or Marmite? :man:
check_your_bank
14 Oct 161#81
great deal, although i stocked up yesterday when i heard there was meant to be no Marmite on the shelves, due to 'brexit' apparently - funnily enough of the few products i can remember reading about there was no sign of a shortage , seems more like a publicity stunt.
And now you can get some for free, so from potentially the worst week for Marmite aficionados to a brilliant one
I could get away with buying daily mail by sliding it inside an adult publication, not sure i could bring myself to enter iceland though.. dressed up as a Halloween banana perhaps...
londonguy
14 Oct 16#80
£4.50 for waste from making beer lol
pineapple12
14 Oct 16#79
Went into my local Iceland none available at 09.10 when I asked about the offer I got a rather stroppy response from the supervisor who was quite short with me. I was going to buy a few bits in there but just left.
jamesWHUFC
14 Oct 16#78
I am glad this popped up on highlights the day after the voucher was in the paper.
davej798
14 Oct 162#77
i will second that, must be a Mail reader with a swinging brick for a heart
martincroot
14 Oct 16#76
Alright Mr Picky. The 65p is for the paper, the jar of marmite is free. The deal as a whole is not free. Happy now?
ham_fan
14 Oct 16#75
Sure you'll be ok.
squiby
14 Oct 16#74
Then maybe unilever and the farmers should open their own outlets, instead of letting a mammoth of a retail giant such as tesco to exist. We as consumers are guilty of fuelling these giants too.
smp
14 Oct 16#73
amazing deal and I love it , now to find out if I love marmite , I got in store at crewe 9.10 only two jars left on the shelf
qbs
14 Oct 16#72
Er no - on both counts.
JCod32
14 Oct 16#71
anyone fancy photocopying the voucher so I don't have to buy that pile of s**te?
mrew42
14 Oct 16#70
Well it was certainly more entertaining than your post. :man:
leewills8
14 Oct 165#69
And after battling those two inner demons in my head all night I purchased a copy of The Daily Mail! Then sauntered off to Iceland, only to find they do not stock Marmite! Now my I am battling with my consience as I have bought The Daily Mail for no good reason! :confused:
premierfella
14 Oct 16#68
Given this was clearly an opportunistic offer from Iceland, its clear there will have been very little stock in the stores. I often wonder whether these offers with limited stock are ultimately positive or negative for the retailer given how many customers go into the store and see an empty shelf where the "free" products are supposed to be.
upset brown pant
14 Oct 161#67
and whilst many brexiters bemoan the losshigh streets stuffed with local shops for local people (whilst doing almost all of their grocery shopping at a supermarket) the vast majority of thriving independent retailers are owned, staffed and patronised by immigrants or the "liberal elite".
RedmanDealer
14 Oct 163#66
Thought Daily Mail was always giving away free stuff like casual racism and xenophobia! At least Marmite is much easier to swallow than their rubbish!
Histon
14 Oct 163#65
Here in Cambridge at 9.36am, Iceland had no stock in for the day. Why offer if the company is not co-operating with you?
jacjacatac
14 Oct 161#64
Yeah but at least with Marmite, I get to keep my fingers.
Ridgehead
14 Oct 16#63
Most people know how most big business works. It's called make as much money and pay as little tax as you can get away with. Doesn't matter if it harms animals, destroys rain forests or affects peoples lives. I didn't notice any particular drop in prices when there was a great pound euro exchange rate. There is a reason why around 1% of the population own as much as the other 99%..
Cheers op. Now off to see if I can get some free Marmite!
LeePark
14 Oct 161#62
None in two local shops. Manager said that they only had 3 jars in anyway.
Phone customer services at Iceland for a £10 good will gift card. 0800 328 0800.
Take back your papers to the newsagents in protest.
digipeep
14 Oct 161#61
Brexit will not happen, it was only thick racists who voted for it and they'll be ignored. Mark my words it will all unravel and we'll still be in the EU in 5 years time thankfully.
hemp
14 Oct 16#60
None left in Hemel Hempstead at 10 am :disappointed:
donut64
14 Oct 16#59
Just picked up the LAST jar from my local in Sittingbourne. They said they only had 6 in and all gone by 9am.
edash
14 Oct 16#58
...or go into your local Waitrose and spend £4.35 (or more), and get a free Daily Mail and use that to pick up the free jar of Marmite :smiley:
InTheKnow444
14 Oct 161#57
Think Tesco came out on top in the eyes of the consumer, but I'd expect they'll both profit in the coming months when their "Secret" deal takes effect.
I'll just switch supermarkets to whoever has the best deals at the time.
Something I've done for last 30 years
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 16#56
Good for you. You take the power back!
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 16#55
I didn't say the whole of Britain was truly of little knowledge and understanding. Britain has lots of knowledgeable, and understanding people. Unfortunately, those people's intelligence has been overwhelmed by the ignorance and foolishness of Little Englanders. Consequently, as a country together, we appear to be sailing up a smelly rivulet without any means of propulsion or control. Unfortunately, by what has been said, or perhaps more accurately what has not been said, in parliament in recent days it looks increasingly like Theresa May and pals are not sure what to do to get hold of the proverbial paddle.
Jaffo
14 Oct 161#54
Vile stuff. So's the Marmite.
InTheKnow444
14 Oct 163#53
I'm reducing purchases of Unilever products in future because of their actions, and would do the same to any manufacturer acting this way
Newbold
14 Oct 165#52
And on behalf of everyone else, I'd like to apologise for you. :disappointed:
traceykins
14 Oct 161#51
Not in Barry Iceland grrrr
panedseren
14 Oct 16#50
well considering brexit includes the whole of britain not just "little englanders" then it seems you are the one with the little knowledge and understanding.
youngrobbo
14 Oct 16#49
It is also listed on the NYSE and Euronext exchanges and reports its overall profits in Euros.
friiza
14 Oct 164#48
Don't remember unilver dropping their prices when the pound was strong. Or raising them last time it was weak. 100% politically motivated, not economically.
spanguoliuke
14 Oct 16#47
Hate Mail,Hate Marmite Cold for me:/
rohitmkiller
14 Oct 162#46
Capitalism and the power supermarkets have gained. The number of honest, hard working independent stores has reduced greatly over time, clothing, electrical, convenience, grocery and more has been lost to stores like Tesco.
Why?
Price.
cburns
14 Oct 16#45
And one by one they are counted, processed, packaged and boxed
All in a line the soldiers were, for it's off to war they go....
Will they win or will they lose...for the freedom they never know :wink:
carlospunk
14 Oct 16#44
Yuk
LeePark
14 Oct 162#43
On behalf of my country I would like to apologise for Lilly Allen.
Good deal thanks OP.
Lupus44
14 Oct 161#42
The Daily Heil...no thanks!
catbeans
14 Oct 161#41
Eh funny you say people are ignorant of economics, yet you think the cost of production of marmite has gone up by 20%, I presume because the pound has dropped by 20%, since Brexit? What about the fact Uniliver lost £3billion from its share price and gave up pushing for 10% straight away, instead of just discontinuing Marmite. Or the fact the biggest cost, labour is paid in £, ingredients are mainly UK sourced, but half their loss is from cheap packaging?
If only economics were that simple.
Rory Joe
14 Oct 167#40
Wouldn't have thought Mail readers would like anything that was dark brown tbh.
Madcat86
14 Oct 163#39
Who cares about Unilever, Tesco and Brexit, it's a free jar of Marmite posted on HUKD...this isn't Daily Politics!!!
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 161#38
Er yes you are a Little Englander
and I want my five pounds
qbs
14 Oct 16#37
So you're saying EVERYTHING involved in the manufacture, packaging, distribution of Marmite is imported? Not everything's made in China from recycled rubbish from the uk.
Your claim for £5 is rejected. Not only am I not a little englander, I'm relieved to say I'm not even english.
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 164#36
Oh, so where does the oil, machinery, glass, plastic and cardboard packaging, used in the UK come from? Eaton? Ipswich? Peckham? Inner Manchester? Shrewsbury? Melton Mobray? Pickhill Thirsk?
Actually, I can't be bothered any more, You are a Little Englander and I claim my five pounds.
qbs
14 Oct 161#35
"all imported"??????????????????????????????????????? You sound like a spokesman for Unilever.
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 163#34
Costs of manufacturing and distribution in the UK have risen recently, in case you haven't noticed. The slump in the value of Sterling means that fuel, machinery, glass, plastic, cardboard packaging etc, etc, all imported, have risen by about 20% in price. These costs either have to be absorbed by manufacturers or passed on to consumers.
knack
14 Oct 16#33
The jars are purchased in US Dollars.
qbs
14 Oct 161#32
But has the cost of Marmite - made in Britain, sold in Britain - really risen or is Unilever just being opportunistic and, in so doing, demonstrate how consumers would suffer under TTIP?
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 165#31
But if the costs of production of Marmite in the UK have risen 10% why should they be expected to not make their customers pay 10% more? They have a legal responsibility to their shareholders to maximise their profitability.
boostii
14 Oct 16#30
Unilever have hundreds of brands sold all around the world but with profits declared in GPB. It is an undisputable fact that their profits will be much bigger for the same level of sales for most of these. These brands have annual sales of one billion euros or more:
Axe / Lynx
Blue Band
Dermalogica
Dove
Flora / Becel
Heartbrand
Hellmann's and Best Foods
Knorr
Lipton
Lux
Magnum
Omo
Rexona / Sure / Degree / Shield
Surf
Sunsilk
The little bit of Marmite they sell is a drop in the ocean to them, but they are still trying to charge us more for it, unjustifiably so when the exchange rate gives them a massive pay day. I presume you work for them or are some sort of anti Marmite pro multinational food conglomerate troll.
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 16#29
No you definitely said " Sticking 10% on Marmite definitely still looks like pure greed"
boostii
14 Oct 16#28
Ben and Jerry's etc etc...
boostii
14 Oct 161#26
Yeah but can't you supercilious boffins explain how Unilever is listed on the FTSE and declare profits in GBP. But since a lot of sales are in €'s and $'s they just got a big bunch of extra profits for free from the exchange rate fluctuations. Sticking 10% on Marmite definitely still looks like pure greed.
VDisillusioned to boostii
14 Oct 163#27
Unilever don't export much Marmite.
VDisillusioned
14 Oct 166#25
I, for one, am very pleased with Marmite-gate. It has opened my eyes today unto how incredibly ignorant some people are when it comes to commerce, international trade, and capitalism. Little Englanders truly are of little knowledge and understanding.
wistle
13 Oct 16#24
Hell Unilever only deals in Euros. so it just brings it inline with rest of Europe doesn't matter where its made its all Euros. could be good as makes the UK a cheaper place to manufacture as doupt the workforce will get a 10 present pay rise.
PS look out for colman 150g jars of mint and apple very soon
splender
13 Oct 16#23
A wind up.
jusrsaying
13 Oct 166#19
Don't think its the corporates being greedy though it maybe a minimal factor. The pound has completely tanked since Brexit vote. Buying almost anything will incur a greater cost to somebody as the pound has less value outside the UK- if not the customer, then the suppier/manufacturer. Fuel cost to transport goods (Made in the UK or outside) and raw goods if buying outside the UK costs will be higher as the pound is valued less. Maintaing the low prices we've been used to when the pound was where is was simply wont be sustainable. It's maths. Its ecomomics.
boostii to jusrsaying
13 Oct 163#22
Could be wrong, but I think they scrape Marmite for free out from the bottom of the Bass brewery in Burton on Trent. It's just a by product. In my humble opinion, the Unilever price rises are opportunistic and not a consequence of Brexit.
Reigan
13 Oct 161#21
This is cashback for brexit prices will rise after Christmas so don't spend it all.
Thanks from Murdoch.
pennyfarthing88
13 Oct 16#20
I think you maybe missing the point - Unilever sell in every supermarket the world over but want to increase prices in the U.K only?! This on the strength of import taxes and the sterling vs the dollar - on the back of Brexit.
The same products are mostly manufactured right here in Britain' so explain the increase?
I realise local farmers suffer wanting to make money from supermarkets such as Tesco and alike but you can't compare Unilever who make their products for peanuts with your farmers who unfortunately face competing from others Asda' Sainsbury's but more importantly Aldi & Lidl etc
BuzzDuraband
13 Oct 161#18
Our Doris ain't a big fan of Iceland, do you know if Tesco accept the voucher?
dannyblackbeard
13 Oct 16#17
I don't like the Mail but this deal is brilliant opportunism.
escortboy
13 Oct 16#16
Mmmmmm... Yeasty goodness...
youngrobbo
13 Oct 1631#6
The indignity of having to buy the Daily Mail to get this offer is just too much for me. You can have some heat though.
wellhellothere to youngrobbo
13 Oct 163#11
Boring.
finnmaccool to youngrobbo
13 Oct 162#15
Don't need to buy it. if you want Marmite just dip your spoon into any passing dogs exhaust pipe.
boostii
13 Oct 16#14
Like the Mail, like Marmite, perfect deal for me :sunglasses:
splender
13 Oct 161#13
Hot deal, Daily Mail, so Marmite, all in one sentence, "Daily Mail + Marmite", double trouble/goodness, split down the middle, just like Brexit, hate it or love it.
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But it is wind up (photoshop).
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Funny eating of Marmite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFpjLn3rIBM
pennyfarthing88
13 Oct 164#9
Good deal and heat added for those that benefit.
On the flip side I'm still miffed with Unilever even though Tesco have kissed and made up.
Greedy corporates get my goat :disappointed:
whiteston to pennyfarthing88
13 Oct 167#10
But on the other hand aren't Tesco guilty of dictating prices to their suppliers? Milk anyone?
youngrobbo to pennyfarthing88
13 Oct 164#12
I'm also miffed at greedy Tesco holding their suppliers to ransom, just like they do our farmers.
pinguu
13 Oct 161#8
How is it free if it costs 65p?
daffers
13 Oct 1619#4
emlin to daffers
13 Oct 165#7
As if the Mail wasn't bad enough, you have to bring a Telegraph cartoon to the table...
morrig
13 Oct 163#5
Marmite ryhmes with a load of sh... .
emlin
13 Oct 1617#3
Did you know that the word "marmite" comes from the Old French for "hypocrite"?
Perfect for a Daily Mail offer...
leewills8
13 Oct 1612#2
Daily Mail. Marmite. Daily Mail. Marmite. These are the thoughts that will keep me awake all night :confused:
Opening post
Take voucher to Iceland on friday only for 500g jar of marmite (worth £4.50)
Top comments
Perfect for a Daily Mail offer...
Latest comments (206)
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/associated-newspapers-ltd-a16-359328.html
www. thegrocer.co.uk/stores/prices-and-promotions/iceland-rapped-by-asa-over-marmite-giveaway/
Good to see Iceland's reputation being damaged by their sharp practice.
I see the poisonous Mail is still at it, though, with its fake news and equally fake offers:
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/free-soltan-suncare-with-saturdays-daily-mail-boots-instore-2708296
The usual story - stocks widely unavailable again.
The full ruling reveals some Iceland stores had as few as 10 jars available, and some none at all. You can read the ruling here ASA Ruling
Before you ask - as with all ASA rulings, no one gets fined, no one gets a free jar of Marmite. If you don't like the Daily Mail and Iceland as a result don't spend your money with them.
I took a different route, pushed Iceland hard on the way it had been handled, and received £25 from them as an apology.
However if the ASA upholds the complaints the Daily Mail will not be fined, they will not have to refund any purchaser of the newspaper who hoped to exchange the voucher for a 'free' jar of Marmite, nor will the Daily Mail have to give anyone a large 'free' 500g jar of Marmite.
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There are complaints about it all over their social media pages, but at the moment they're just burying their silly heads in the sand and hoping it will all go away.
It won't - there are enough of us around to put them through a great deal of time, trouble, aggravation and sheer bad publicity if they won't back off, admit they were wrong, apologise, and dish out some appropriate goodwill gestures.
Nice to see that we're all taking different routes to get to the same end. Don't give up - I intend to make sure that Iceland learn a lesson from this, and it will cost them considerably more than a few goodwill gestures! Always a pleasure to tackle companies like Iceland that think they can cheat their customers. :laughing:
What a surprise.
Mostly a Sun reader area .I think the Mail was at fault as no problem with Sun offer.
Back on the shelves now - and plenty of it too. This particular store had just 8 available on Friday morning, according to the manager, and I'm not convinced even that's the truth. Iceland have been, and are still being, very deceitful about this promotion - and probably hoping that it doesn't turn into a news story. Some of us have other ideas. :wink:
Thank you for your email regarding the Marmite promotion.
I am sorry you were unable to obtain your "Free Marmite”, The promotion was only valid for the 14th October, this promotion was only while stock lasts promotion and was being fulfilled by Iceland. You may wish to contact Iceland directly I have attached their contact details below.
Iceland Customer Care- 0800 328 0800
I do sincerely apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Should you require any further assistance in this or any other matter, please do not hesitate in contacting us again, either by replying to this email, or calling us on: 0808 272 0808 (calls to this number are free from UK landlines, but mobiles may be charged).
Our advisors are available 7 days a week, from 7am to 7pm.
Kind regards,
Deborah Young
why post silly comments when we are trying to discuss something serious i.e. was Iceland just overwhelmed with the response to this offer or were the supplies kept low on purpose and if so, can anything be done.
https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/11/Wm-Morrison-Supermarkets-plc/SHP_ADJ_270607.aspx#.WAKejHR4WhB
http://thechiefexecutive.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/daily-mail-iceland-free-marmite-offer.html
I've mentioned the comments from here.
The only surprise is that this story hasn't yet made it to the BBC or one of the papers (obviously not the Mail) - or to MSE, which usually publishes rip-off stories like this.
Maybe the answer is that the average Mail reader isn't bright enough to realise that (s)he's been conned - or that Marmite is just a little bit too, what shall we say, black, for his or her tastes? :neutral_face:
Looking through the comments it seems only 1 person actually got it....
Pure scam - the store managers (who aren't stupid) took it off sale the minute they understood their store would be charged the promotional cost of fulfilling the offer.
There never were enough to go around.
Good job I got the paper free from Waitrose.:smiley:
Bit of a scam to get you to buy the Daily Mail.
My sister went to Iceland Wallington @1400 and were none there.
She said she was told that they were all gone by @1100.I mean wok sort of promo is that,if you know there ain't gonna be enough to go around?
I went to Iceland Worcester Park @1700 and none there either.
Lucky I didn't waste 65p to buy the damn thing,as I got it free with my Waitrose shopping.:smiley:
Branding everyone who disagrees with you as thick racists only shows your own stupidity and bigotry.
Time and energy, a con, went to two Iceland with my voucher , no stock
I doubt there ever was.
Any Iceland staff in here with any evidence, either way, on this theory? :neutral_face:
Mods please expire this.
Mail Shop Freephone 0800 083 5000
You'll have to keep selecting the "2" option 'till you speak to an operator - but by then you'll be even more angry!
Just got badly stung by buying the paper and trying three Icelands, all of which were OOS. Spent a few quid on petrol too going between these..
To put the icing on the cake, the corner shop refused me a refund on the paper.
So all in all - 90 minutes wasted, and a fiver in fuel/paper, not to mention the stress and harassment caused the argument with the greedy shopkeeper..
COLD COLD COLD
I'll get my coat...
Also perhaps manufacturers should consider not closing UK factories to move production abroad (I'm looking at you Cadburys! :man:)
The same products are mostly manufactured right here in Britain' so explain the increase?
I realise local farmers suffer wanting to make money from supermarkets such as Tesco and alike but you can't compare Unilever who make their products for peanuts with your farmers who unfortunately face competing from others Asda' Sainsbury's but more importantly Aldi & Lidl etc[/quotBe
Be careful anyone who has a nut allergy then.
All Fascists do.
I would love to know what the terms of the deal were. Though I bet it is exactly what both sides had in mind at the start. I suspect the whole charade was a clever piece of public opinion manipulation on the part of Tesco. Lot's of the pro-brexiteers are still completely of the opinion, bizarrely, that there will not be, or should not be, any impact on their incomes or outgoings due to Brexit. But, of course, there will. In the first instance there will be price inflation due to the drop in the value of Sterling. Tesco knows that they are going to have to put up prices, and they know that the people who are in denial about the costs of Brexit will not accept the real reason - the drop in the pound - but instead blame "profiteering". By pulling the Unilever products from the online store they have created publicity that has shown that the price rise is coming from the supplier and not themselves. They have shifted the misguided "profiteering" blame from themselves and onto Unilever. Quite brilliant really.
Well done Iceland for stealing Tesco's thunder.
It is Marmite-gate! No Marmite at our store, recon usual offer subject to availability, availability extremely limited (4-6 jars in a store is just not going to cover a tiny % of demand). Booo Iceland and Daily Mail. Just Shocking trying to mislead me with the offer of free Marmite. Good mind to tweet them!
Bit of a con on Icelands part if you ask me????
I personally prefer Tesco's own brand of Marmite "Yeast Extract" 225g - £1.75 and it's a lot cheaper than "real" Marmite.
Won't be buying Mail again and did Iceland no favour either, was going to grocery shop there but went to Tesco instead. Why offer promotion then not support it, all it does is pi** people off and ruin the brand. (if Mail needs ruining more !)
"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa
They normally hate mixed relationships :stuck_out_tongue:
,loads of people where buying the mail this morning to get this offer.
Fly swatter
Dog training
Fire lighter
Make hats for a party
Floor/window protection when painting
Well worth the money!
Also had 3 in stock when got mine at around 10.30am (although I did check and then hide one while I went and got the paper)
And now you can get some for free, so from potentially the worst week for Marmite aficionados to a brilliant one
I could get away with buying daily mail by sliding it inside an adult publication, not sure i could bring myself to enter iceland though.. dressed up as a Halloween banana perhaps...
:man:
Cheers op. Now off to see if I can get some free Marmite!
Phone customer services at Iceland for a £10 good will gift card. 0800 328 0800.
Take back your papers to the newsagents in protest.
I'll just switch supermarkets to whoever has the best deals at the time.
Something I've done for last 30 years
Why?
Price.
All in a line the soldiers were, for it's off to war they go....
Will they win or will they lose...for the freedom they never know :wink:
Good deal thanks OP.
If only economics were that simple.
and I want my five pounds
Your claim for £5 is rejected. Not only am I not a little englander, I'm relieved to say I'm not even english.
Actually, I can't be bothered any more, You are a Little Englander and I claim my five pounds.
Axe / Lynx
Blue Band
Dermalogica
Dove
Flora / Becel
Heartbrand
Hellmann's and Best Foods
Knorr
Lipton
Lux
Magnum
Omo
Rexona / Sure / Degree / Shield
Surf
Sunsilk
The little bit of Marmite they sell is a drop in the ocean to them, but they are still trying to charge us more for it, unjustifiably so when the exchange rate gives them a massive pay day. I presume you work for them or are some sort of anti Marmite pro multinational food conglomerate troll.
PS look out for colman 150g jars of mint and apple very soon
Thanks from Murdoch.
The same products are mostly manufactured right here in Britain' so explain the increase?
I realise local farmers suffer wanting to make money from supermarkets such as Tesco and alike but you can't compare Unilever who make their products for peanuts with your farmers who unfortunately face competing from others Asda' Sainsbury's but more importantly Aldi & Lidl etc
.
But it is wind up (photoshop).
.
Funny eating of Marmite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFpjLn3rIBM
On the flip side I'm still miffed with Unilever even though Tesco have kissed and made up.
Greedy corporates get my goat :disappointed:
Perfect for a Daily Mail offer...