I'll tell what is dumb, someone who sees a headline figure of £970 and then can't deduct £230 (the value of the Xbox) from that to get the true purchase price, even if we ignore Quidco and any cashback you might get from a credit card. We can all play the waiting game, sure there's something better coming along, but one thing you can be sure, with the latest comes a premium price, and as soon as that's released, there will be something better in the pipeline next month, next year or whenever.

At some point if you have a need, you have to purchase the equipment, you can't wait for the next great thing coming along, at this point in time the Surface Pro 4 with an i5 bought from Currys is probably the lightest and best value tablet you can get, providing you need the i5. Otherwise maybe it's worth waiting.

The fact that MS didn't announce the kaby lake powered surface, suggests either it's not the step change some seem to believe, or that it's not available now, which is perhaps more believable, but if you're going to wait until early 2017, why not wait even longer for Cannonlake? Personally I want the power today, and I'm not waiting 4 months plus to get a 10% boost to performance and maybe, though it's open to debate, 7-10% more battery life.

You make the mistake of telling people what to do, when you've got no idea of their need, yeah maybe you can wait in your personal position, but many can't and maybe will see this deal as an ok machine plus free christmas present, ok machine and something they would have purchased free, or an ok machine at a good price once the free gift is sold.

As for Thunderbolt 3, that can wait until I refresh my equipment in 3+ years time, how long has USB3 been out, and how many devices support that at full speed? Thunderbolt is yet more tech. that will require converters to make it work with everything we own today, doesn't really provide any benefit, since USB3 is still easily capable of managing all my peripherals.

mike

where to?

RRP is controlled on Surface products by Microsoft, so yes people do still pay RRP. Still not inflated price, and as for it being overpriced, that would be a matter of opinion :smirk:

great deal but Microsoft event today announcing new models so expect a few clearance offers soon

My local Argos has one in stock now, arghh do i buy it??? Tempted to wait till Black Friday but i'll be gutted if there isn't any deals on it.

Just to trying to keep things concise :wink:



It probably helps if I add that the Surface Pro doesn't come with a keyboard/dock and the Surface Book does. It also has a battery and a gpu built into the dock which is why it is quite a bit more expensive.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!, very helpful advice there, well, that's me then?, as I saw both as one of the same animal really? (as you can well imagine?, lol).

Thanx for that. :-)

Great insight there ..... hehehehehehe.

My local Argos has one in stock now, arghh do i buy it??? Tempted to wait till Black Friday but i'll be gutted if there isn't any deals on it.

It is not the Surface Book pro. It is just the Surface Pro. The Surface Book and the Surface Pro are completely different devices.

Surface = more of a tablet
Surface Book = more of a laptop.

Yep.

I'm still missing something?.

How can the Surface Book be costlier than the Surface Book Pro? (and by the same Company too?), or ..... thanx.

Nope, he bought a surface book.

Huh?.

So your's at £1150, mean's you paid MORE than the OP's £971.10 then?, or ..... :-(

Lol.

I've had mine for a day now, should have been 5 but for the incompence of DPD, a long story, and I had to go to some lengths to get it at all.

The machine is pretty fast, certainly comparable to my i7 on normal tasks, i.e. not running benchmarks, it's way faster than my Core M Dell Venue Pro.

The screen is very clear and very bright. For my eyesight, I've set it to scale at 175% (default was 200%) which gives me a great viewing area, some apps Photoshop CS6 seem to be incapable of scaling, but in reality this isn't a bad thing for a photo editor since you see more of your photos if they're not scaled, if that's how it works.

Battery life is better than my Core M, despite this not being a particularly power efficient CPU, especially when playing video.

Weight is roughly the same as the Venue, but it's got a nicer, bigger screen and is slimmer because it doesn't need a protective case.

I've got the fingerprint keyboard case, and it's by far the best keyboard I've used on a tablet, I can touch time as fast as my laptop or any full size keyboard, ok, it's expensive, but you'd pay a premium for a good keyboard and perhaps a tenner for a protective case, so is probably only 50% over priced (buy from Amazon for a better price than the high street shops).

Then there are the nice touches, the power brick uses a figure of 8 connector, so much easier to get leads if you need a different plug, a cloverleaf design lead is not that easy to find outside of maplin like shops, not so easy when in a foreign country. Perhaps the single most useful nice touch, the power brick has a usb charging port, so when out and about no need to take an additional charger for your phone or no need to block the single onboard usb port.

Is it worth £971 (i5/8GB/256GB), probably not, but nock the £200 for the Xbox, then definitely yes, there's a premium of £100 over the next best tablet with similar spec, but I think that's too many compromises.

I think this machine is likely to become my main system, it's close enough in capabilities to my i7 laptop, with the added benefits of touch and higher resolution screen.

mike

How come you've got the 10% discount still? yeah i've got the argos one in my basket, but it is a lot of money. I think if they threw the keyboard too i would go for it. Going to hold for black friday and hope they have an amazing deal.

How come you've got the 10% discount still? yeah i've got the argos one in my basket, but it is a lot of money. I think if they threw the keyboard too i would go for it. Going to hold for black friday and hope they have an amazing deal.

I pulled the trigger on the SB last night. The i5/256/dGPU. Pretty happy. 10% discount further 7.35% through TCB and the free Xbox which will offset another 200. Means I am paying around £1150 for it which is a great price considering I have had my eye on one for a month now.

I added to the basket last night and when I refresh it now it still has the full discount. I'd probably get shafted if I went for it though! Its the Surface Book I'm looking at. Lovely bit of hardware but got my doubts it will do the job I'm looking for it to do.

How come you've got the 10% discount still? yeah i've got the argos one in my basket, but it is a lot of money. I think if they threw the keyboard too i would go for it. Going to hold for black friday and hope they have an amazing deal.

Ive still got 10% discount in my basket on the microsoft store for now but cant bring myself to pull the trigger! Even with the XBO it;s a hellalot of money. May save some pennies and go with an XPS15 instead...

This offer still seems to be on with Argos plus the 10% discount for anyone looking. So Surface (-10%) plus Xbox free. Just click through from the banner on the front page. Put the Surface and Xbox in the basket and all the discounts will be applied.

More like Don Mattrick :wink:

Agreed..Tim Cook is Steve Ballmer :wink:

Did you get it yet mike?
Interested to hear your comparison

I've got this surface pro i5 from the other deal and I hardly use it because windows 10 is a disgrace. I just had a spinning wheel for two minutes before writing this lol.

Yep that's what the lady from their customer services department said

Do they also price match in store ?

Please share the deal, always wanted to drive a "Ferreali"

yeye - Buy Ferreali car and get free Xbox - super offer.

Just been told JL do price match argos. yh not sure what to think with the altering prices. Might still wait it out for black friday.

You mean price went down before before going up again? I was under the impression that it was stable during this offer period until the increase now.

Was going to order this but the price changes too often I'm not happy with the tactic of altering prices

Is its still in stock at JL

I was just about to order for 971 straight from microsoft store, but price went up out of nowhere. Contacted support, they were - as expected - utterly clueless and unhelpful. She kept saying the price I saw didn't include the xbox / was the surface when discounted. I gave up and bought the same deal from Argos. 971, xbox included.

Have to try get it to Ireland now. With the current rate / no similar offers here it's so much more expensive. My sister is taking delivery and will bring back for me.

Does JL match price to Argos?

As Argos still have 971 for bundle SP4 and xBox.

I have never done it before so could someone explain how it works if I haven't bought the item yet?

All prices seem to have increased, £1079 for the i5 8gb model at microsoft and more at Currys. missed out on this one, fingers crossed for black friday

I've been caught out a few times like that with TCB and Quidco. Nowadays I always use Chrome incognito mode so is totally fresh when clicking through

writing on this product now. great deal . no regrets.

Just a word of warning, make sure you use a different browser or clear all cookies when trying cashback via Microsoft store.
They failed to pay out hundreds of pounds of cashback via TCB last year even though I went through all the correct processes.
TCB were trying to be helpful when I submitted a claim but it took months to try and get a response, then they turned around and said that Microsoft had declined the cashback.
Absolute crap from them and there was no way to contest it.

Also it will usually track as a lower amount which doesn't really help things either.

Ordered with Microsoft with keyboard as they give 10.5% cashback through TCB. That should be around £110. Then sell the console for around £200. Works out around £800.

Usually tracks lower at first but it will go up. God knows why.

strange, TCB shows only £36.92 for Surface book i5 with xbox (bought from Microsoft store)

£53.72 tracked on quidco for Surface book i5 with xbox

Looks like I timed my purchase well. Got it from John Lewis and got them to price match Currys around midday today. Still the Argos option for now.

£971 at Argos with free x box

That's very odd, I was going to buy one tomorrow but if it's gone up then I'm not going to bother. I saw the deal was valid til Monday so didn't think I needed to rush. Possibly a pricing error?

Price increased everywhere except MicrosoftStore.

The prices online appear to have gone up? I've been looking at Surface Books today and they all appear more expensive than earlier.

The problem is, I was going to do a John Lewis price match with the Currys £971 price.

£971 in Microsoft store today - think it was £1071 when I looked yesterday in Microsoft store - gone down because the £150 off via TCB has gone. 10% via Quidco - ex VAT price but has these exclusions - so I wouldn't rely on getting this at all: - Offer excludes Surface Book - 128GB / Intel Core i5 and Microsoft Surface Pro 4 - 128GB / Intel Core m3, 128GB / Intel Core i5 and 256GB / Intel Core i5

I would say if you took back the SP4 they would refund the £643.54+vat. This is for business customers by the way, if you buy through the regular desk/check out I am not sure what the till receipt says, someone else's will need to comment...

Currys price for the Surface Pro 4 now showing as £1,169.94!

I bought it from the Microsoft Store. Thanks for the info, I'll just keep my order then.

Did you buy from Currys or Microsoft Store?

Quidco do it on exVat too.

Warning/info
I've just purchased the base £1045 Surface Book through Topcashback with 10.5% cashback. Just to warn everyone else, I just now discovered they'll only do cashback on the EX-VAT price - which is £870.83! So whereas I was expecting £105 cashback I will only get £87. I think this is a little sneaky as it didn't make this clear. The cashback tracked almost immediately after purchase, but it shows only £43.97. However, I was warned that "cashback will initially track lower and then will track higher once validated" - so it should increase later. BUT I'm now wondering whether I should just go through Quidco. Does Quidco include the full price with VAT? Anyone tried? Would really appreciate this info so I can quickly cancel my current order.

Quidco is pretty good, but it really depends on the company who's doing the selling, for instance Lastminute.com cashback tracks reliably, Staples and Travelodge rarely. But if it doesn't track then you raise a case within 45 days and they take it up with the supplier, of the cases I've raised Travelodge paid up every time, Staples, maybe 25% of the time.

I bought my surface from Curry's they've always tracked reliably and pay up reliable. I've not got a record of any tracking for Microsoft, so don't know how good they are.

I always treat cashback as a bonus, rather than rely on it, because with companies like Staples, they're clearly quite dishonest. I've stopped using Staples for my business because of their failure to pay up.

In reality failure to track is pretty much unforgivable, it's really simple to record transactions, so failure to do show shows poor website or back-end coding. If you want to make it more likely, use a browser in 'in-private' mode or clear all cookies before navigating to Quidco and then click on the Quido cashback link, it's not a good idea to add any third party codes as this is often prohibited unless supplied by Quidco.

For me 95% tracks and pays, which would have been 99.9% if it wasn't for Staples.

mike

I was thinking about getting this but wasn't sure where it would be best to buy it from, was thinking of getting it from Microsoft and use quido 10% cash back but not sure if I would get the cash back, never used quido before has any one else have used them Before?

thanks

I absolutely love my surface book so much so that I may have to bite the bullet on this deal (well via very dot co uk have the same deal on buy now pay 12 month later) as don't have 1g to drop but it will sort out xmas present !

I bought a surface book from John lewis 5 weeks ago. Was thinking of returning it until the new mbp was launched and its crap. I took my surfacebook back for a refund and went and bought this from Currys with 10% off and xbox. Best part is when I reminded them to take the 10% off they took it off again so it was £1599 but I saved £160 (10%) + £143(10% again) + sold xbox for £190 this morn on FB!

Its a fantastic device apart from the trackpad! Its bit crap

​so does that mean if one is to be returned you have to return both?

amazing deal

Both items are discounted on the invoice, you pay £643.54 for the SP4 and £165.72 for the Xbox, both ex VAT of course :smile:

You will be fine with this, it runs similar to an GTX 860 which would deffo do medium GTA at 1080p ..probably high at 30 FPS, rocket league will have no issues as it's not a very demanding game. Though the resolution on this is 3000x2000 so you will need to drop the res down to 1080p when gaming. But your Photoshop will run a lot better, I have the SP4 and never once had an issue with photoshop, InDesign and Illustator... all of which run super fast. 16gb would give you a boost but only if you are the type of person (like me) that has about 50 Adobe files on the go at once. Either way it will blow your MBP out of the water in terms of performance, it's a big upgrade over a 4yo MBP.

Also remember you can stream you free Xbox One to your PC! :smiley:

But the terms according to Quidco, suggest this doesn't include 256GB i5 models, though its a bit ambiguous since it refers to 'offer' which isn't entirely clear if that's Fifa 2017 or Cashback or both.

mike

How do you get 10% off on the Microsoft Store?

Quidco offering a further 10% on surface products from Microsoft taking it to £874

For 2, these use ulv cpus so even the top spec i7 Surface Pro 4 or Surface Book won't beat your current cpu performance, in fact it doesn't even come close.

Ah you seem to be struggling with suggesting a lightweight alternative, or for that matter suggesting any alternative. I'm not interested in willy waving exercise over the 'latest and greatest' tech from Intel, I've got real work to do, and it needs the machine today, the weight aspect is probably the highest part of the equation and screen size, but I can't afford to compromise too much on other aspects. I've got a powerful laptop, but it's simply not light enough for what I need, I can afford to drop the processing performance a bit, but the Core M is too slow for what I need but my i7 laptop which is roughly equivalent to the surface pro4 i5, would be fine except the weight and battery life issues inherent with the i7.

Time will be the judge of things, but when it turns up (not today thanks to DPD incompetence) I'll see, I will have 3 different machines each running the same workload to compare (and weigh).

mike

Is this deal available in John Lewis too?

£903 after my works 7% discount! cheers op!

Microsoft did not announce a new Surface Pro, so SP4 will likely remain the latest model until the Windows 10 Creators Update, at least.

Couldn't see the Xbox offer on Argos ?


EdITEd: Found it. Its the second offer of 2 offers . First one is the Mc Affee.

the price is little high for me

Thanks for replying.

Those brands don't shout reliable at me. I've had Dell/HP/Lenovo before all around £800 and builds were plastic cheap and had Dell return as soon as it arrived with faulty mobo for example.

1. Reliability - My MBP is still running super fast after 4 years but it's not retina and fan sounds really loud on high CPU/graphics usage.
2. CPU performance - top end i5 or low end i7 will do. Odd photoshop/video editing but nothing intense or 4k stuff
3. Of course 1080p or better screen as a upgrade to the MBP
4. I write a lot of documents, maybe the touch would be useful but again not really required
5. I have no budget, if I want I could buy the new 15" MBP but I don't like the way Apple is heading there and graphics card is just meh on that. Would like to play some games like rocket league in HD and maybe even GTA on Medium quality.

At the moment still considering on keeping the MBP until it dies if ever. i7-3720QM with 16gb ram since it's last model which lets you add ram/ssd yourself.

Yeah you need a lightweight over priced laptop that is already getting out of date and struggles with day to day tasks.

The only things i can think of are if you like Surface that much then its best waiting for a better version as this one is not it. Otherwise get a good proven laptop with everything ready and an ability to last a bit of time.

To others: Given that there have been laptop announcements lately have a look at the differences and use those as a target. The new USB port for example or ability to handle higher res video. Battery life is also improving as well as other convenience features.

also battery life seems to be about 4 or 5 hours which does limit the mobility of it if you're out and about a fair bit. Added to the fact that the battery doesn't look replaceable, I'm not sure if these will have a reasonable shelf life? my tablet has probably lost 50% of its battery ability over the 2 years I've had it.

​Good post, maybe the Surface isn't for me. I don't need to walk around with it, I'm using it in the home and at work which is primarily at a desk. I don't like being confined to one though and the light weight and big screen is an attraction. Mine would be used for some fairly basic music production, cubase or Reaper (think Garage band level) and outside of that as a consumer device much like a tablet. What frustrates me about my Android 8 inch tablet which is heavily used is the fact I still need a Windows or Apple device to run certain software. I would prefer a touchscreen for ease of use especially when adjusting levels etc as its just quicker than mouse or trackpad.
I've actually got a couple of buyers for the Xbox too but the problems arise if the Surface needs to be returned for any reason as I'd need to keep the Xbox to return also. Can the Surface be used as Xbox display device through the display port or is it display out only?

I'm sure there are some esoteric uses for Thunderbolt 3, especially plugging in high graphics adaptors, for the majority of people this isn't going to be the case, which is probably why we're not seeing MS update the surface this time round, I suspect they're waiting on the next generation CPU and perhaps that's when we'll see Thunderbolt 3, by then I'll have used the surface for months doing my day to day work. My office is full of promising new architectures and kit that didn't deliver on the claims, or got made redundant almost as soon as it was released, that's why I only buy for today's need rather than any future possible usage.

mike

I would probably have rather had a discount and keyboard rather than the Xbox, but it is a good offer. Heat given.

Regarding the numerous people suggesting that money is better off spent elsewhere, this is almost certainly true if you don't use the pen. Don't buy a Surface to watch videos on the commute home. Buy a Surface because you want to be able to handwrite legible comments real-time as you give a presentation, whilst being free to walk around as you do so. Nothing else I've tried compares for this. Or because a Surface Pro is more portable than a laptop and Cintiq tablet (and compares favourably on price). If you use the pen, and can afford to sit at a desk to type, the Surface Pro is excellent. If you need to type on your knee, or have to work in circumstances where there isn't room to engage the kickstand, the Surface Book is better.

If you need to use a stylus, but balk at the price of the Surface (and are patient), you ought to be able to pick up one of the tablet versions of the Thinkpad X220/X230 range on ebay for around the £200 mark. Yes, the laptop is old, and in the x220's case the processor does not support wireless display mirroring. However, the styli work well, and the processor still works plenty quick enough for most uses. In addition, I can confirm that the x220T works well with a GDC Beast eGPU adapter plugged into the expresscard slot (I have an GTX 750Ti I use to accelerate machine learning, and for the occasional game). Which brings me neatly to my final point...
Great post, but I think that the likelihood of an eGPU adapter available quickly ( a usage case designed into the architecture of the kaby lake processors) for Thunderbird 3 makes the Surface 5 worth waiting for for some usage cases (I'm holding off an upgrade to a Surface 4 for that very reason).

Also at argos with £10 voucher

http://www.argos.co.uk/search/shop-all-surface-pro-4s-and-books-at-argos/?tag=ar:homepage:slot10

Got a Surface Pro 4 for work. Can't understand all the fuss! And don't get me started on the Windows Store!

You'd have to define what makes this stand out to you? Better in computing terms is so subjective, it's difficult to make a suggestion. I personally look at what HP, Acer, Asus, Lenovo and Dell offer and that pretty much covers the entire mainstream supply, factors that matter to me taken into account I'll end up with 3 or 4 machines, at which point I delve into the reviews and make a decision from there.

For me the equation happened to place weight, power, size, battery life and quality of screen as the primary drivers, price was a secondary consideration, in that order, but you may have different opinions. This is why I ended up going for the surface pro 4; i5, 8GB, 256GB SSD variant.

mike

Yeah, it's cheaper from Currys. And you don't have to worry about TCB not paying out.

Interesting. Is there anything better at sub£1k than this?
https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/Microsoft-Surface-Book--256GB-Intel-Core-i5/productID.332604800/?vid=332714400

After TCB £157 cash back/selling Xbox and VAT reclaim its about £1000

That may be the case, but very few mainstream consumers, who amount for the bulk of sales when it comes to TV and technology in general, will actually care about 4K. Let alone the difference between lower bitrate HDR 4K streams and high bitrate BDs.

At the end of the day, the idiots who walk into currys and buy the shiniest TV they can see/afford are the ones who dictate where tech goes in the future. And that future is streaming garbage on Netflix. 4K Bluray is there for the niche market that wants the very best sadly.

Side point, always funny seeing the irony of the xbots and even Microsoft themselves flaunting the 4K bluray capabilities after they tried so hard to get away from the whole "all in one media box" thing that killed Microsoft in the first place when it comes to this gens console "war".

The PS4 pro doesn't have it simply to keep costs down. They have huge momentum still for sales, regardless of Microsoft doing well with the One S. why cut profit margins when clearly people want a games console for games? Makes literally no sense. If demand for 4K bluray comes, they'll add it to a revised model. Simples.

You seem to forget the main crux of my statement, it's all about need to do things, I need a light weight powerful tablet/laptop, the surface is exactly what I require, yes the chips are all a bit old, yes it's not running the latest hardware, but the thing is it comes with exactly what I NEED. I don't own anything that can benefit from Thunderbolt 3 the fastest peripheral I use is a MyMemory red 256GB chip, which although fast for the money doesn't stretch USB3, I don't run software that it's worth waiting 6 months for the 10% performance boost that the next processor generation provides.

I actually need a machine today (or tomorrow as that's when it arrives) that's light, largish high resolution screen, capable OS that can run SQL, Visual Studio, Photoshop and a multitude of other software packages. This offer happened to arrive at the perfect time for me and this is by far the nearest to perfection for my requirements, it's just a bonus that I get it with an Xbox (which is either Christmas sorted or £200 off the surface), by the time I take into account Quidco, cashback and the way my business finances work, the surface costs in real terms £400, which isn't bad for an extremely capable machine that fits in with what I need.

As with any PC purchase, there's always something better coming, and whatever you purchase today will be a compromise, only the buyer will no whether it's worth it and yes it might be an expensive mistake, but that's true no matter what you buy.

I challenge you to find a Windows 10 tablet with similar screen, similar battery life, similar processing power and similar weight all for a lower overall price, even if you think the Xbox is a dud, it should still sell for £200 and therefore you should really take this into account when looking at the overall cost.

mike

You buy surface pro 4 and get Xbox fifa17 for free

I get 40mb BB here, and I buy the odd BR and especially 4k discs... There is simply no comparison between a 4k HDR BR and a streaming version.

must....resist......

​Both consoles have been out for 3 years, Xbox one has only outsold the ps4 for 3-4 months, Sony have sold over double the amount of Ps4 consoles compared to Xbox ones. Microsoft will claw it back next Christmas with the release of scorpio tho. Cannot remember the last time I brought a blu ray, streaming and downloads are the future, not owning a physical disc.

I never said that lol...just the bit on the 0.8kg. I already have a suface and have had one for 12 months, would never consider buying a Lenovo.

I thought you meant the Surface was too cumbersome... My fault for skip reading :smile:

Uh huh,
http://www.geekwire.com/2016/microsoft-surface-business-climbs-topping-1-3b-as-lumia-sales-plummet/

£809 after reclaiming VAT, £647 after saving 20% corporation tax and then sell the Xbox for £220 = brand new surface pro 4 for £427! Can't go wrong at this price

New surface models??

It the XBox One marked as "free" or are the two items discounted back a bit?

If the taxman is looking that closely at your accounts, you're already having a very bad day...

If its marked up as £0 for the XB-One then you're "safe", but if its marked at a discount price then no you couldnt put it through your accounts.

8)bought one today. Tabtop (tablet/laptop). I could do more task while traveling instead of using my old iPad Air. Free Xbox one S is a bonus. If I knew I wouldn't have bought my PS4(for £150with FIFA) a month ago. The temptations are so strong when you see those deal on hotdeal lol

You said;

""I was looking at the Lenovo Yoga 510 at £599 with i5 and 128gb but can't make my mind up if a flippable laptop actually makes for a tablet replacement or whether it's just too big and cumbersome"

I replied;

"Too big and cumbersome"

And you then said it weighed 0.8kg :smile:

I'm already sold on the Surface concept anyway. But always looking out for reasonably priced alternatives.

It doesn't say it's excluded. It just isn't included in their description. Take a screenshot in case of dispute.

However, I logged into topcashback and clicked through the 157 link, went to surface pro 4, selected '5/256gb and they WANT to give me a free xbox so I'd say you'd be alright.

LOL, I'm talking about the Surface Pro 4.... Must have got mixed up somehow. :smiley: The Yoga is indeed a bit of a beast also it's made by Lenovo so will probably fall apart after 6 months! You pay for what you get really, spending the extra to get a Surface Pro is well worth it.

For the record I don't think a Lenovo laptop will blow anything out of the water. :smile:

The Lenovo Yoga 510 is 0.8kg? I thought it only came in a 14" variant....which starts at 3.85lbs...

More than happy to be shown the spec sheet that says it is 0.8kg (because a laptop of that price/weight/performance would make a nice upgrade from my Surface 3!)

The same Xbox One that has been outselling the PS4 for consecutive months in the US? The one that actually functions FULLY as a 4K Blu Ray player?

Good one.

I will tell you what is not old. Someone who defends old, under supported, niche and under powered hardware. The i5 and i7 in the non Notebook Surfaces are under powered compared to laptop variants.

Other manufacturers have made better newer devices and Intel are also pushing Thunderbolt massively which will be awesome for portable hardware giving them direct to PCI express connections. It will help prolong the life of hardware and add additional options for people who like laptops but want desktop performance and productivity at times.

If you want to regret an expensive purchase fine by all means buy the surface. Nevermind the Xbone which itself is struggling as a console platform.

On the tcb site it's says the i5/256gb pro 4 is excluded but the Ms store says that it's included so if I get the i5 will I get the cash back?

Yarp! It's listed in the voucher section on topcashback, Microsoft store section

So can you get the Topcashback and the i5 surface pro 4 with the xbox s?

Yeah, your mistaken... it's 0.8kg in weight.

TBH weight is never really an issue, it just feels very premium and still amazes me how powerful it is considering it's size. 4 years ago you would have needed a full sized PC case for the level of performance you get from it.

Like I said earlier, as an owner of one I will never go back to a traditional laptop or tablet. This blows them both out of the water and for me has reduced the need to have 2 devices into just needing 1.

Now SERIOUSLY tempted... So does anyone know how to get the free xbox as well if going through the Microsoft store?

1.75kg though....(unless I'm mistaken). Which makes it a poor tablet.

Too big and cumbersome.

There is an easy solution for that dBrand Skins

So there's no protection for the screen offered in the £971 deal? I think I looked at Surface Pro 4 a couple of months back and found that they were almost the same price as a Surface book once you added the keyboard and necessary peripherals. You could probably sell the Xbox bundle for £200. I was looking at the Lenovo Yoga 510 at £599 with i5 and 128gb but can't make my mind up if a flippable laptop actually makes for a tablet replacement or whether it's just too big and cumbersome.

Also the Xbox bundles don't appear to include the type cover? it's pretty useless without that

Thank you brother...here we go!

Just a little word in your ears - Topcashback have a 24hr deal on Surface Pro 4 at Microsoft Store. 151.50 cashback. Probably ends tonight.

https://www.topcashback.co.uk/microsoft_store/

Worth a shot.

... it is the i5 ... where did you buy yours from? I can use a friends student discount...

Buy it online...advertise it. If you don't sell it within 14 days, return it.

Surely this is an i7 I bought the i5 model last year for £767 with a student discount. It can't have gone up on price. By my reckoning that Xbox isn't free at all.

Just back from local store and assistant searched the different iterations and advised offer not on the 750 model... showed me their on screen info to support this.. I wanted the 750 one and went in based on your comment...

Good question - I too only see £1079 for i5/256/8 - plus 10% (off ex VAT price) via Quidco

OH SNAP!!

Nice joke

For all those asking, this really isn't a good way to get a cheap Xbox.

Might as well wait till Black Friday.

Does anyone think I could sell the surface for £800 ? Considering doing this to get the xbox s cheap . Cheers

How do you get this deal on Microsoft store? The price comes as £1,079.00

Couldn't agree more. Microsoft are NAILING hardware design at the minute. Apple seems to have become complacent with minor iterations of the same product, whilst Microsoft are being innovative and really pushing the boundaries.

It's great to see Microsoft cater to creatives, and bring something new and interesting to the table. :smiley:

Can I have the code if it still going :stuck_out_tongue:

If you are keeping both, then it won't matter anyway.
It would only matter if you were 'disposing' of the xbox one way or another. Just because the xbox might be attached to a tv in your lounge, it is still in the possession of the business ....

(from another IT contractor who bought his first xbox with Kinect on the business due to 'testing Kinect for video conferencing purposes'...)

​if it's anything like my last quidco it won't pay out anyway.

Finally someone is talking sense!!

Are you sure this is the Xbox One S? The title says so on the Curry's site but the picture looks like the normal Xbox One

Edit - actually it is all detailed so looks like the new model.

Says 10% cashback for Surface purchases.

Well the eBay fees will be about £87 plus £30-£40 PayPal fees. Youll be lucky to break even.

Seriously?? That's like another £67 off... makes this very tempting!

It will work. Games will work. But Blu Rays and DVDs will be region locked (not all, depends on distributor/publisher but you're likely to come accross some that are). There is no getting around this. Changing the region of your console will not solve this. Could be an issue since the Ultra HD Blu Ray playback is a big selling point.

Put it though Hmrc don't check

Just wait for one of those £1 max FVF offers. They come around fairly often.

Both great hardware. Happy to see xbox one getting Dolby atmos support

If you go in store the deals on the £750 surface which is a lot better
Also student beans are doing 10% at the min off Microsoft surface products if your a student if not I've got a code if anyone wants it

Cheers as a freelancing IT consultant - I think a surface Pro raises no eyebrows to the tax man - it's a standard purchase. An xbox one s, however is very questionable as something required for business use. That's why I ask. And the intention would be to keep both. I have half an eye on a new xbox to upgrade my xbox 360, and half an eye on a new iPad or Surface Pro. A big win if I can cleanly put through the business.

Strictly speaking it wouldn't matter whether it was free or not, the tax man would expect the value to be taken into account. I guess the trick would be to buy it personally then transfer it into your business at the value, which of course happens to be the purchase price, but you'd still potentially run the risk of the tax man having issues.

Certainly if you bought it for the business and then sold it, you'd certainly have to take account of the income, but if it didn't sell, perhaps because you list it on ebay as used (you had to test it after all) at too high a price, you could eventually write the value down.

mike

A bit of a rant, however, I agree!

Erm so - just making sure this is kosher for buying through the business - how will it look on the receipt etc? It says bundle, so will it really be recorded as free?

I'll tell what is dumb, someone who sees a headline figure of £970 and then can't deduct £230 (the value of the Xbox) from that to get the true purchase price, even if we ignore Quidco and any cashback you might get from a credit card. We can all play the waiting game, sure there's something better coming along, but one thing you can be sure, with the latest comes a premium price, and as soon as that's released, there will be something better in the pipeline next month, next year or whenever.

At some point if you have a need, you have to purchase the equipment, you can't wait for the next great thing coming along, at this point in time the Surface Pro 4 with an i5 bought from Currys is probably the lightest and best value tablet you can get, providing you need the i5. Otherwise maybe it's worth waiting.

The fact that MS didn't announce the kaby lake powered surface, suggests either it's not the step change some seem to believe, or that it's not available now, which is perhaps more believable, but if you're going to wait until early 2017, why not wait even longer for Cannonlake? Personally I want the power today, and I'm not waiting 4 months plus to get a 10% boost to performance and maybe, though it's open to debate, 7-10% more battery life.

You make the mistake of telling people what to do, when you've got no idea of their need, yeah maybe you can wait in your personal position, but many can't and maybe will see this deal as an ok machine plus free christmas present, ok machine and something they would have purchased free, or an ok machine at a good price once the free gift is sold.

As for Thunderbolt 3, that can wait until I refresh my equipment in 3+ years time, how long has USB3 been out, and how many devices support that at full speed? Thunderbolt is yet more tech. that will require converters to make it work with everything we own today, doesn't really provide any benefit, since USB3 is still easily capable of managing all my peripherals.

mike

£900 tab goes hot my £900 monitor goes cold ok

seems like alot of sheeple about :smiley:

This really isnt a bargain at all. Its not a good enough device spec wise. Beware the i5 i7 branding and look more long term. The fact it is £900+ makes it a dumb purchase. There are much better laptops and tablets you can buy separately. This doesnt do well at either function.

Also Kaby Lake is out soon. Keep an eye out for announcements by Dell, HP, Lenovo etc. Laptop connectivity is changing with Thunderbolt 3 etc.

The new surfacebook will cost 3000£ better get this deal! Better have a surface plus an Xbox I know already what I am offering to my kids for Xmas :smiley:

I wish I could justify buying one of these.
Just watched the reveal of the awesome surface studio, I love Microsoft hardware!

The same offer is on at Argos to on front page (mobile view) but think overall prices are higher.

This must be a great buy for business user gamers - a new laptop (vat recoverable and tax deductable) for the business and a "free" XBox :smiley:

Sell it on a local facebook selling page.

What code?

It doesn't lower the price on the bundled deal.

Which brings it down to this price and doesn't then include the Xbox One S.

If Microsoft sold the Surface Pro at a realistic price point then they would not have to resort to such addon giveaways to prop up flagging sales.

I'm tempted not sure whether to get it or not or maybe wait till black Friday to see if their is anything better

115 in ebay fees cuts out any potential profit though...

Downside to being an early adopter I'm afraid! Never buy the first of anything. That being said I reeeeeeally want one!! haha

So want one but price is just way too high for both the studio and the book. Think they are targetting people with big pockets! Just imagine the type of dream PC you could build with that sort of investment... 1080 SLI!!

The Surface Pro is a bit more resonably priced and easier to stomach.

I sold an i5/128GB with keyboard 2 or 3 months back, really struggled and ended up letting it go for 600 quid, it was absolutely mint. The resale values of these are not all all that great.

Given the exchange rate why would you pay in euros ? Ship it to a parcel motel address

Yeah, considering the SP5 was not announced this is a total bargain.

I got mine last November and despite the high price point it is worth every penny. It truly is a sublime piece of kit, it’s slim, really good performance, the screen is crystal clear, the pen just works and the keyboard cover is surprisingly good… will never go back to a traditional laptop.

Only downsides are the short battery life (I get around 3-6 hours’ general use) and no integrated graphics. Hoping the SP5 would address this today but that never happened.

So would be all over this if I didn’t have one already… deffo hot!

10% student discount at Microsoft store

where to?

Damn, wish this was on when I brought mine back in March

Answered your own question there, also if you have £971 spare then you must have enough money to make money elsewhere. Wasting time = losing money.

You could try this. We used it all the time when I was young.

Pah, Surface Book has the best user experience happiness level or some other such nonsense I heard one over enthusiatic sales bod going on about in that presentation!

Well I have a Surface Book i5 with the dock and it is one PITA, dropping USB devices all the time (even ones with their own power like USB SATA docking stations), no sound from external monitor, horrible scaling when going from external monitor to the SB itself... the list goes on.

Just spoken to their support. No student discount :disappointed:

Black Friday/Cyber Monday Weekend, etc?.

Look out for them .....

YEP!, I'm with alllllll you lot above on that one?. :-(

And/or if your able to hold out for a wee bit, etc?, then ..... (that's what Black Friday, and/or Cyber Monday is allllllll about/alllllll for in the first place, etc, etc, etc, right?), lol. :-)

3 pin to 2 pin converter, AND 240/250v to 110/120v adaptor/transformer too. :-)

Absolutely fine for anyone whose life is between an office computer and home. Anyone who travels even a little bit with work will soon become incredibly frustrated with the lack of usability of a £100 tablet.

So do I.

hahah thats the spirit! :smile:
actually a great deal and pretty temptating....:innocent:

New Surface Studio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzMLA8YIgG0
New Surface Book i7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1OsmndtIrY

No Mention of a Surface Pro 5?

The Studio looks nice!! Need some reviews to see if worth paying for them.

Like most say these are niche products really. They target a certain market but are trying to be mass appeal. ATM the price is just too high for that IMHO.

They do seem to have a 'cool' factor though. Oh and they come with a headphone jack and USB #Bonus :smiley:

Does this work with student discount in MS store?

I pity your subs.

Woohoo i can get an xbox through the business!


... and then you see they want £109 for a keyboard.

New surface book i7 announced

No problem with mine (I5, 8GB ram), it's butter smooth and gives my home desktop a run for it's money. It's a cracking laptop and only time I have ever really seen slowdown is when I had literally had about 10 different apps (including photoshop, illustrator, indesign) open at the same time which would bring any desktop to it's knees.

Guessing you must have used the M3 version which I can't comment on but think that was discontinued.

brilliant deal

no, the code is for a tv

I tried a Surface in Sainsburys a while ago, think it was one of the lower power cheaper ones (only had 2gb of ram) but was disappointed with how laggy it was, didn't seem any more responsive than my Toshiba tablet which has 2gb of ram and a quad core Atom X5 and cost £110 (refurb from Argos) and also came with a keyboard.

Regardless of today's likely Microsoft announcements, this is a great deal. If I didn't already have an xb1 I'd be extremely tempted (and am still quite tempted!). Heat added.

another option is an alienware 13 with a 1060 (when they are released very soon) for roughly 2x xbox one gpu power in a very portable laptop

As soon as the next one is announced the price will plummet, absolutely no way someone would pay anything close to £900 for "last years" model. I imagine it will be worth about £500 in 24 hours time!

will the £200 code "PANA4K200" work?

Has this been removed from the microsoft store? I can only see it on the I7 model now :disappointed:

H :smile: T

This is actually sound advice; I regret not doing this myself.

Tempted to buy this, sell it for £70 less (or something tempting for the buyer and a quick sell) and keep the Xbox!

John Lewis selling at RRP..may price match?...gives 2 year warranty...unless that's normal?

The Xbox ain't free. You will be paying a grand for both items.

I can't see this offer on Microsoft website? If there, will they also give 10% discount?

Thanks

Anyone know if XBOX S will work ok in the US? I'm moving to California next year, but this offer seems to be at least as good as any bought over there at the current exchange rate.

mike

i meant 3pm , its been a long day at work :disappointed:

like another user i am contemplating buying the bundle, selling the surface for £100 less and keeping the Xbox for the outlay of £100.
thing is how easy is selling a surface Pro for £871 (not to mention eBay fees)

RRP is controlled on Surface products by Microsoft, so yes people do still pay RRP. Still not inflated price, and as for it being overpriced, that would be a matter of opinion :smirk:

Oh, do people still pay RRPs. I would recommend they don't. Still overpriced for what ot is, and as pointed out in an earlier post, the range will be updated very soon, so prices will drop.

​Yeah I personally like the more discreet looks of the older black model. There's a get version of the S that looks pretty nice though so I'd probably go for that if I were in the market for one.

Cold. Nice inflated price for the offer.

Some one please tell me this an awful deal and that I shouldnt get it

It's now changed to i7 8GB 256 and no longer i5.

Is this deal available in Ireland / Irish store? can't find Euro equivalent.

Seems the Microsoft Store doesn't have the same price Curry's has though :disappointed:

not a bad deal, shame you dont get more games otherwise would have bought

And all the expectation is that there will be NO new models, not even a refresh until spring next year.
At least in Surface and surface book models.

7% cashback through Quidco for the Microsofts Store too!

I've got mine next to a PS4, it still looks nice a tidy, I wouldn't sweat.

If only it was a black Xbox one, I'd have got this. White will just look odd with all my Black consoles etc

hoping to get a cheap surface tablet before christmas so a refresh would help with that lol

If the £200 off code worked as well I would be all over this :-(

very good deal.

Incredible deal

So is it usually £971.10 or have they raised the price to suit ?

way too much for a surface even combined its quite a lot!

great deal but Microsoft event today announcing new models so expect a few clearance offers soon

2pm i think.

​3pm BST and possible new models.

patience until the 3pm conference