Very tempted by this seeing as the Thermostat on its own is £149.99 through Prime and I have already preordered a Dot and an Echo.
Some blurb on the Netatmo which is highly reviewed:
A product of the connected lifestyle range is the Netatmo Thermostat which enables you to control your heating, remotely.
Smart heating in your home
The Netatmo Thermostat can set a program to reflect your living habits. With its Auto-Adapt function, it predicts the start of the heating periods depending on your household insulation and the outdoor temperature.
Energy saver
For each month of the year, your personal Energy Savings Report lets you track your home’s energy consumption and helps you to schedule your heating more effectively. This could mean that the Netatmo Thermostat will save up to 37% of your household energy consumption, reducing carbon footprint too.*
Energy in graph form
With the dedicated Netatmo app, you’ll be able to monitor your past energy consumption. Both indoor temperature and boiler (gas, fuel or wood) activity is recorded continuously in the app, which can be downloaded (for free) from the App store, Google play or Windows Phone Store.
Seamless design
The simple and minimalist design by Starck means that the Netatmo Thermostat will blend seamlessly into any home decor. And with five interchange colours to choose from, you’ll be able to find one which suits.
Top comments
nbgrobbo to shalton
17 Sep 1616#2
Great review. Thanks. :wink:
Latest comments (53)
bilbob
23 Oct 16#52
Well, no, it won't 'turn it on or off' as such. But if you turn the temperature to 15, then it's not going to turn on is it?
Have you set your schedules in the netatmo app?
twe to bilbob
24 Oct 16#53
I haven't installed it yet, was reading reviews. Apparently the USA version does do more functionality so am hoping it comes this way.
twe
23 Oct 16#51
Is it me or this package make no sense? From reading the reviews on the Netatmo skill for echo it is limited to turn up or down the heating. Not switch it on and off!
twe
20 Oct 16#50
Nice. Am hoping the Plex plugin comes out soon. Had to switch from Fahrenheit to Celsius though manually via the app and settings.
twe
20 Oct 16#47
Got mine today. Impressed so far of Amazon Echo and understanding me lol.
Have to install Netatmo to be impressed with that. Amazon echo can control Netatmo right? Some sights showing US only.
bilbob to twe
20 Oct 16#49
So far, hugely impressed with it. After a little practise, she even understands my 4 year old with a lisp! They are having huge fun making it meow like a cat, and telling silly jokes... :smiley:
Looking forward to setting up the netatmo... Might bring forward the purchase of some Hue bulbs...
Also can't wait for the release of the Netatmo radiator thermostats...
bilbob
20 Oct 16#48
You want the office down the hall, this is the sense of humour bypass office.
shalton
20 Oct 16#46
Didn't realise it was a review site
decoy7
20 Oct 16#45
Thanks to the original poster for this deal, thought it was over last week but managed to order on Sunday, signed up for Amazon Prime 30 day trial for the second time(may keep it this time), both arrived just now...happy days :smiley:
shalton
19 Oct 16#44
i have netamo - a good bit of kit
bilbob
19 Oct 16#43
Mine arrives tomorrow, should get it fitted to the boiler over the weekend, looking forward to shutting off the heating when I'm working away.
That'll p*** the wife off.
twe
19 Oct 16#42
In 2 minds to get this or not. Currently processing the order... Definitely want something to control the heating though but could wait to.
Zeipher
2 Oct 16#41
It's back!!!
Zeipher
23 Sep 16#40
Looks like I missed this :disappointed: Sold out, or no longer available.
bilbob
19 Sep 161#39
Good spot, cheers.
Looking into them now...
bilbob
18 Sep 16#19
Does this work with smart radiator valves?
I'm not sure I see the point in going 'smart' unless you do it properly and control each room, or zone...
Does any system support smart trv's AND thermostat, and Alexa? oh, and ITTT...?
p9dyl to bilbob
19 Sep 161#38
Netatmo are releasing smart radiator valves by the end of this year to go with the smart thermostat. They look very nice. RRP to be £60.
sprite127594
19 Sep 16#37
Cheapest it's been on Amazon seems to be £109. I have the Dot pre ordered but I might go for this. I have Hue lights and thinking I might as well have the heating on voice command as well.
All I need to do then is decorate my living room to look like the enterprise bridge. *HEATING ON FULL POWER SCOTTTTTY"
singy21
19 Sep 16#36
Sorry my bad its a way old link on here, Iv pre-ordered this but having seen that the netatmo has been sold so much cheaper has made me think this is an ok price. but nothing more.
singy21
19 Sep 16#34
OK so if the netatmo is 83 quid at John Lewis... and the echo is 50. doesn't that make this a bad deal? am I missing something genuinely
sprite127594 to singy21
19 Sep 16#35
Link? says £150 for me
shalton
17 Sep 161#1
I have the netamo. It is good.
nbgrobbo to shalton
17 Sep 1616#2
Great review. Thanks. :wink:
hcc27 to shalton
19 Sep 16#33
Yes, but is it as good as the Netatmo? I'm really tired of those cheap Chinese wannabe fakes.
tafarrant
19 Sep 16#31
I keep looking at varying ones of the smart controls, I currently have the Honeywell wireless one (its not smart) my only issue is placement of the controller.
Living room has a log stove so tends to be warm all winter so place the controller in there or on the landing is a no no it would never trip.
Kitchen again tends to be quiet a warm room. only place I can think of is the dining room but that tends to warm up quicker than the bedrooms as its an extension. All rads have trv's but wouldn't combat the issue of rooms heating at different rates?
is the above portable?
jrw to tafarrant
19 Sep 16#32
Yes it is, you just wire the relay directly to the boiler instead of the thermostat.
HellRazer
19 Sep 16#30
Lucky if they're actually offering you a free upgrade. They're giving me a 20℅ discount off the new model and that's only after I post my original V1 in.
Sid Harper
19 Sep 16#29
As a purist, I agree. A buddy of mine just had his house gutted and redone and has a separate zone for every room. That's ideal.
Most of us don't have that luxury. I will look to zone off upstairs and downstairs at some point (feasible), but what I wanted was to have a smarter control over when the boiler comes on and off over just timers. Believe it or not, timers are what the majority of UK households with central heating have!
The ability to control things at will from a distance is a first step to being more efficient. Going more granular, you go to each room (which, if you can't zone every room off separately, is best done using individual thermostats - as I have).
I'm not sure what the point you are arguing here is - in the real world, doing a retrofit improves efficiency. In my case, I think the best efficiency is when it knows when I or my other half are on our way home. If the house isn't cold, or we are away on hols, it doesn't heat.
bellboys
18 Sep 16#28
But the fact remains you still basically have a whole house on or all house off heating switch, it's just a bit more technical/'gadgety'. The huge flaw in your heating control remains. It's akin to having one light switch in your house. Who in their right mind would do that? :disappointed:
Sid Harper
18 Sep 16#27
Context - here we're talking about single 'stat operating the system to be on/off. I also have valves for the rooms (and when I get the opportunity I will zone it off too). Point is, IF the house needs heating AND someone is going to be home THEN it will warm it up otherwise it will not. I can adjust the heating from my phone just like the others, but not sure which of them build up intelligence on how long my commute is and efficiency of warming up my home (based on a single temperature at one place in my house like most traditional heating systems) to have it how I want it for when I get there.
alera
18 Sep 16#26
New systems are pretty complicated I can't imagine it's plug and play setting these up with an existing system surely one for your heating engineer unless you are very competent or a very simple system. I just had a system boiler put in with two zones motorised gate valves and a megaflow it came with a couple of wifi room.thermostats and you can control it from your phone tablet etc anywhere. These look cool not really sure what extra they bring to table apart from looking pretty.
alera
18 Sep 16#25
New systems are pretty complicated I can't imagine it's plug and play setting these up with an existing system surely one for your heating engineer unless you are very competent or a very simple system. I just had a system boiler put in with two zones motorised gate valves and a megaflow it came with a couple of wifi room.thermostats and you can control it from your phone tablet etc anywhere. These look cool not really sure what extra they bring to table apart from looking pretty.
Sid Harper
17 Sep 162#5
Or in my case tado which also does geolocation and switches on the heating when it knows people are on their way home. I never touch the settings now - it just works at maximum efficiency. I'm not sure any others manage that quite as well.
It does the water on a schedule.
I've never really understood the need to have heating and water control at your fingertips except on rare occasions when it's suddenly too cold or the tank runs out or something.
bellboys to Sid Harper
18 Sep 16#24
Unless you are zoning your heating with summat like the Evohome, this claim simply isn't true.
djlondon22
18 Sep 16#23
Want? Need? Desire? damn. preordered the Echo but do I need a Netatmo? it is such a good deal but not sure I need a Dot and a Netatmo. I hate deals like this.... my wallet needs some ice cold deals.
Aiadi
18 Sep 16#18
Is fitting this a DIY job or does it need any sort of professional installation? I have a combi boiler with one of these battery operated thermostats on the wall.
steadydeal to Aiadi
18 Sep 161#20
I just replaced the battery operated one, used the same wires, took me about 40minutes, only so long as ours was all wired in with black wiring, took a while to figure out what was what!
stephenh0 to Aiadi
18 Sep 161#22
You can do it yourself easy. Just follow the instructions and take notes of where the current wires are plugged in to make it easier. I did our combi boiler a year back and tbh it was one of the easiest diy projects I did! BTW netatmo is great, haven't had any problems and works just like it should.
Waldolf
18 Sep 161#13
The worst thing to do is to constantly be altering the temperature of a heating system. So the need to link voice control to the system has few practical benefits, and is a gimmick for the majority.
p9dyl to Waldolf
18 Sep 16#21
This makes no sense to me? The heating is constantly turning on and off in winter to maintain the set temperature, so what difference does it make by altering this by a couple of degrees?
usenetz
18 Sep 16#17
I intend to buy into either the Amazon Echo/Dot or Google Home system and am currently renovating an old house with the intention of having multiple zones for the heating and was wondering which smart thermostat to go for. Does this Netatmo support multi-zone systems?
cchopps
18 Sep 162#16
Really. Why?
Don't get me wrong I have a Hive system which allows me to preset X amount of changes per day to thermostat setting and can't think of a usage beyond the message I already receive when I leave my home or when I'm 5 miles from home of what the current status is with my heating. I therefore do see no point in Amazon dot for heating, but I can't fathom out why you would consider it to be 'bad'.
nitro228
17 Sep 16#6
Netatmo or nest? I think the nest looks nicer and seems to have more third party support (IFTTT etc)
jrw to nitro228
17 Sep 16#8
Netatmo has IFTTT to work with dot/echo surely?
fishmaster to nitro228
18 Sep 16#15
Some one told me Nest on another recent Amazon thread think it was the Amazon Echo thread.
mspychala
18 Sep 162#14
No homekit support in Nest. No buy.
Sid Harper
18 Sep 16#12
Doesn't do hot water water or geolocation, and my Tado v1 has let me down just once when I was an early adopter and they upgraded their cloud infrastructure. Hasn't skipped a beat since, and despite offers to update to the latest version for free I've not taken them up because mine has a remote temperature sensor which is optional with later models.
horsey
18 Sep 16#11
Stethorn reckons his is amazing, now I don't know who to believe :disappointed:
jrw
17 Sep 161#7
Not sure hot water control is necessary. Lot of people now have combi boilers
I have a standard boiler with a tank and hot water just comes on twice a day and if im away I turn it off. Water stays warm for 48 hours in tank anyway so coming on twice a day probably only burns for around 5 min if it's not been used just to top the temperature up.
baz84 to jrw
17 Sep 161#10
For me personally, if I'm spending approx £150 I want a kit that will cater for my whole system without having to keep effectively two programmers in order to control heating and hot water.
Not taking anything away from the deal though, If I had a combi I'd be all over this.
rsl1uk
17 Sep 16#9
Netatmo. The company I work for fits it with every new heating system. We used to fit Tado but had installation problems with some Tado and switched to Netatmo.
baz84
17 Sep 16#4
I could be wrong but don't think this will control a separate hot water tank in addition to the heating? Those looking to be able to control both will need evohome, nest 3g, or a hive?
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Opening post
Some blurb on the Netatmo which is highly reviewed:
A product of the connected lifestyle range is the Netatmo Thermostat which enables you to control your heating, remotely.
Smart heating in your home
The Netatmo Thermostat can set a program to reflect your living habits. With its Auto-Adapt function, it predicts the start of the heating periods depending on your household insulation and the outdoor temperature.
Energy saver
For each month of the year, your personal Energy Savings Report lets you track your home’s energy consumption and helps you to schedule your heating more effectively. This could mean that the Netatmo Thermostat will save up to 37% of your household energy consumption, reducing carbon footprint too.*
Energy in graph form
With the dedicated Netatmo app, you’ll be able to monitor your past energy consumption. Both indoor temperature and boiler (gas, fuel or wood) activity is recorded continuously in the app, which can be downloaded (for free) from the App store, Google play or Windows Phone Store.
Seamless design
The simple and minimalist design by Starck means that the Netatmo Thermostat will blend seamlessly into any home decor. And with five interchange colours to choose from, you’ll be able to find one which suits.
Top comments
Latest comments (53)
Have you set your schedules in the netatmo app?
Have to install Netatmo to be impressed with that. Amazon echo can control Netatmo right? Some sights showing US only.
Looking forward to setting up the netatmo... Might bring forward the purchase of some Hue bulbs...
Also can't wait for the release of the Netatmo radiator thermostats...
That'll p*** the wife off.
Looking into them now...
I'm not sure I see the point in going 'smart' unless you do it properly and control each room, or zone...
Does any system support smart trv's AND thermostat, and Alexa? oh, and ITTT...?
All I need to do then is decorate my living room to look like the enterprise bridge. *HEATING ON FULL POWER SCOTTTTTY"
Living room has a log stove so tends to be warm all winter so place the controller in there or on the landing is a no no it would never trip.
Kitchen again tends to be quiet a warm room. only place I can think of is the dining room but that tends to warm up quicker than the bedrooms as its an extension. All rads have trv's but wouldn't combat the issue of rooms heating at different rates?
is the above portable?
Most of us don't have that luxury. I will look to zone off upstairs and downstairs at some point (feasible), but what I wanted was to have a smarter control over when the boiler comes on and off over just timers. Believe it or not, timers are what the majority of UK households with central heating have!
The ability to control things at will from a distance is a first step to being more efficient. Going more granular, you go to each room (which, if you can't zone every room off separately, is best done using individual thermostats - as I have).
I'm not sure what the point you are arguing here is - in the real world, doing a retrofit improves efficiency. In my case, I think the best efficiency is when it knows when I or my other half are on our way home. If the house isn't cold, or we are away on hols, it doesn't heat.
It does the water on a schedule.
I've never really understood the need to have heating and water control at your fingertips except on rare occasions when it's suddenly too cold or the tank runs out or something.
Don't get me wrong I have a Hive system which allows me to preset X amount of changes per day to thermostat setting and can't think of a usage beyond the message I already receive when I leave my home or when I'm 5 miles from home of what the current status is with my heating. I therefore do see no point in Amazon dot for heating, but I can't fathom out why you would consider it to be 'bad'.
I have a standard boiler with a tank and hot water just comes on twice a day and if im away I turn it off. Water stays warm for 48 hours in tank anyway so coming on twice a day probably only burns for around 5 min if it's not been used just to top the temperature up.
Not taking anything away from the deal though, If I had a combi I'd be all over this.